PS3 suffers RPG MELTDOWN. 360 achieves RPG GREATNESS.

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#101 leviathan91
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]The 360 does have more RPGs than the competition at the moment but this doesn't mean that the 360 is the RPG king. dsmccracken

Actually, that's EXACTLY what it means when a system has more and better... well, anything!

So you're saying the more stuff there is, the better? :? The 360 does offer plenty of RPGs to choose from but it doesn't have that one AAA RPG that stands out of the bunch, like KotOR.

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#102 dsmccracken
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]The 360 does have more RPGs than the competition at the moment but this doesn't mean that the 360 is the RPG king. leviathan91

Actually, that's EXACTLY what it means when a system has more and better... well, anything!

So you're saying the more stuff there is, the better? :? The 360 does offer plenty of RPGs to choose from but it doesn't have that one AAA RPG that stands out of the bunch, like KotOR.

Quality is better than quantity. Both is better than just one OR the other. And compared to the PS3, that is exactly what the 360 has. I can't really counter you on the basis of GS scores, but AAA pissing wars aside, I have been more than content with what I've gotten RPG-wise out of the 360, and been equally underwhelmed with what the PS3 has offered.

Would I like more and better for ALL the systems, 360 included? No doubt. But the issue isn't whether the 360 owner is so rich (in RPGs) that he's figuratively using 20's as toilet paper and 100's to light his cigars. The question is which console is the RPG "king" this gen, and TBH there really IS no question.

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#103 insanewolfninja
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FFv13 ff13 white knight story star ocean 4 those 4 are the only 1s coming thast I can think of.
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#104 slapdash_monkey
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]The 360 does have more RPGs than the competition at the moment but this doesn't mean that the 360 is the RPG king. dsmccracken

Actually, that's EXACTLY what it means when a system has more and better... well, anything!

So you're saying the more stuff there is, the better? :? The 360 does offer plenty of RPGs to choose from but it doesn't have that one AAA RPG that stands out of the bunch, like KotOR.

Quality is better than quantity. Both is better than just one OR the other. And compared to the PS3, that is exactly what the 360 has. I can't really counter you on the basis of GS scores, but AAA pissing wars aside, I have been more than content with what I've gotten RPG-wise out of the 360, and been equally underwhelmed with what the PS3 has offered.

Would I like more and better for ALL the systems, 360 included? No doubt. But the issue isn't whether the 360 owner is so rich (in RPGs) that he's figuratively using 20's as toilet paper and 100's to light his cigars. The question is which console is the RPG "king" this gen, and TBH there really IS no question.

How can you already say the 360 is the rpg king this gen when this gen just started?? You are really underestimating how big the 2 final fantasy games are.

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#105 shoeman12
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it really has a lot more than cows give it credit for.
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#106 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Same here ?

If anything the opposite is true, JRPG gamers here and elsewhere seem to mostly agree, the game was underrated by most sites.

st1ka

Only because we're terribly starved JRPG game wise :|

speak for yourself

1...2... decent console JRPGs have come out this entire generation.

3 if we're counting Super Paper Mario

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#107 slapdash_monkey
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Lemmings are definitley underestimating ps3's rpg lineup. How can the 360 be rpg king when Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, White Knight Chronicles, Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles are all ps3 exclusives?
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#108 clintos59
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All these people bringing up FFXIII to defend the PS3... I find this disturbing on 2 counts. One, you haven't played the damn thing, so your opinions are even less meaningful than usual here in System Wars. Second, even if it's awesome, basing your arguments on a game released so late in the game (2009? 10?) doesn't undermine the TCs point, it PROVES it you silly little ponces! A game released within an eyeblink of the next gen hardly removes the jolly stomping that RPG-hungry PS3 owners have been receiving this whole gen...and seemingly will continue to receive for another year, two years, whatever.

dsmccracken

We all know the 360 has more rgp's then the ps3, but what people forget is how many of those rpg's are even any good? Yes u may say there all good but alot of lemmings seem to dismiss ps3 games even if they are AA titles, so if we go by those rules how many of these rpg's are AAA? The ps3 is sure lacking rpg's but that doesnt mean there arent going to be any, lets wait and see how well they turn out when Disgaea 3, White Knight Chronicles, Finaly Fantasy 13, Final Fantasy 13 Versus, Valkyria Chronicles, and Tears to Tiara. The ps3 has some great rpg's coming and I can almost expect every one of these to be very good.

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#109 Zoso-8
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Lemmings are definitley underestimating ps3's rpg lineup. How can the 360 be rpg king when Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, White Knight Chronicles, Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles are all ps3 exclusives? slapdash_monkey

Agreed. Mass Effect=/=RPG King

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#110 blitzkid1
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Sqaure and Level 5 will deliver on ps3 trust me.
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#111 mistervengeance
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360 is the rpg king for now, but that's just because no major games have come out for the ps3 yet. once ig games like ff13, versus, and WKC come out, you'll be eating those words. the best rpg on the 360 is lost odyssey, pretty much all the other ones are mediocre.
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#112 manny280
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Having more RPGS doesnt mean greatness... basically to put it in fanboys words

FFXIII > anything (RPG wise) Xbox360 has to offer...

Malta_1980

Mass Effect 2>FF 13

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#113 blitzkid1
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

Having more RPGS doesnt mean greatness... basically to put it in fanboys words

FFXIII > anything (RPG wise) Xbox360 has to offer...

manny280

Mass Effect 2>FF 13

i doubt it.

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#114 vicmackey39
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lulz

True RPG greatness is on the DS and PC this generation. Bow Down

i doubt it.

blitzkid1

As do I, but dragons age and Infinite Undiscovery should be leagues ahead of FF13

generic Nomura Trash that it is

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#116 blitzkid1
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lulz

True RPG greatness is on the DS and PC this generation. Bow Down

[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

i doubt it.

vicmackey39

As do I, but dragons age and Infinite Undiscovery should be leagues ahead of FF13

generic Nomura Trash that it is

I like Nomura designs.

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#117 clintos59
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

Having more RPGS doesnt mean greatness... basically to put it in fanboys words

FFXIII > anything (RPG wise) Xbox360 has to offer...

manny280

Mass Effect 2>FF 13

How u figure? Gamespot has always loved Final Fantasy Games. Heres a look at there scores.

FF12 Review: 9.0

FFX Review: 9.3

FF7 Review: 9.5

FF8 Review: 9.5

All these vs Mass Effect 360 Review 8.5

So u cant just come out saying that because FF13 is a very anticipated game and expect nothing less but ps3 goodness from FF13 and FF13 Versus.

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#118 vicmackey39
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I like Nomura designs.

blitzkid1

I'll say a prayer for you

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#119 thrones
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lulz

True RPG greatness is on the DS and PC this generation. Bow Down

[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

i doubt it.

vicmackey39

As do I, but dragons age and Infinite Undiscovery should be leagues ahead of FF13

generic Nomura Trash that it is

Seriously. Infinite Undiscovery ahead of Final Fantasy XIII? :|

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#120 blitzkid1
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[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

lulz

True RPG greatness is on the DS and PC this generation. Bow Down

[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

i doubt it.

thrones

As do I, but dragons age and Infinite Undiscovery should be leagues ahead of FF13

generic Nomura Trash that it is

Seriously. Infinite Undiscovery ahead of Final Fantasy XIII? :|

i didnt want to say anything .

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#121 vicmackey39
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Seriously. Infinite Undiscovery ahead of Final Fantasy XIII? :|

thrones

Yes

Infinite Undiscovery is an accumulation of 10 years worth of ideas from Gotanda (tales of phantasia/star ocean).

The world apparently changes in real time and you are given flexibility when fighting monsters. An example I heard of was tht when fleeing some guards you have the option to blow up a barricade to hasten your escape. however doing so alerts a giant roll wo then chases you. You have the option to fight the troll, flee o manouvere the troll towards a chasm and push him down

Final Fantaasy 13 is a samey futuristic final fantasy game starring some ladyboys

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#122 Cyberfairy
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

Seriously. Infinite Undiscovery ahead of Final Fantasy XIII? :|

vicmackey39

Yes

Infinite Undiscovery is an accumulation of 10 years worth of ideas from Gotanda (tales of phantasia/star ocean).

The world apparently changes in real time and you are given flexibility when fighting monsters. An example I heard of was tht when fleeing some guards you have the option to blow up a barricade to hasten your escape. however doing so alerts a giant roll wo then chases you. You have the option to fight the troll, flee o manouvere the troll towards a chasm and push him down

Final Fantaasy 13 is a samey futuristic final fantasy game starring some ladyboys

how the hell would you know anything about FF13 being the same thing when there's no info at all?

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#123 Mongo-Boss
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2006: PS2 ruled with its RPGs

2007: PS2 released Odin Sphere, Rogue Galaxy & Persona 3

2008: PS2 released Persona 3 FES/ Persona 4 is announced for the PS2

PS3/360 are a joke when it comes to RPGs, those few I mentioned are great RPGs and IMO quality>quantity

Then again you're the one that said Infinite Undiscovery will be a FF killer so I shouldn't take you seriously.

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#126 clintos59
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Fish_Muffins"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]I thought DS was the RPG king. I mean it has ALOT of rpg's now and still getting some.100Gamer

The DS was not in the question here?

It's PS3vs360. And how PS2 was once king. And how PS3 has suffered major meltdown.

The PS2 is still king of the RPGs.

pathetic. cows using ps2 to defend ps3 :lol:

It only would be pathetic if the ps2 wasnt around any more but it still is around so cant say it doesnt have the best rpg's because the ps2 is actually still alive and selling very well.

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#127 tmntPunchout
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PS2 still has the best RPGS which can be played on the PS3.. like Dis3
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#128 leadernator
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I assume we're talking about JRPGs here:

360: Eternal Sonata, LO, Blue Dragon

PS3: Folklore

As of right now, 360 is definitely winning. LO and BD weren't really received too well, but Eternal Sonata is possibly the only JRPG to brag about at the moment. Folklore is more like a Love it/Hate It game. Isn't Eternal Sonata coming out on PS3 though?

Now let's look at Upcoming JRPG titles

360: Infinite Undiscovery (I'm not trying to be fanboyish here, but I really don't know what else is coming. Feel free to let me know whats up)

PS3: FFXIII, FFvXIII, White Knight, Star Ocean 4. Disgaea 3 (although it looks like a freaking PS2 game).

Unless all these games end up sucking really hard, It looks like sony has it in the bag.

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#129 naruto7777
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i love rpgs thats why i brought a Xbox 360
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#130 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

Seriously. Infinite Undiscovery ahead of Final Fantasy XIII? :|

vicmackey39

Final Fantaasy 13 is a samey futuristic final fantasy game starring some ladyboys

Word you have actually played FF13 and know every gameplay detail. If the answer is no then this statement is null and void.

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#131 velocity99
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If you love painfully mediocre and generic RPG's, get a 360. Otherwise, i only have 2 words to say; Final Fantasy.
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#132 Elviathan
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The real honest truth here is the 360 is the current RPG KING. And there is no reason to say otherwise. Sure PS3 will have some RPG's. And yes most will opt out to use old faithful FF13 in 2014 or whenever it comes out 09/10 i guess at the earliest.

But clearly the 360 has been the leader in RPG's this gen. And seems to be ready to defend that crown for several more years to come.

I'll list many many titles if requested. Other wise only a brainwashed in denial fanboy would argue other wise.

Fish_Muffins

Final Fantasy XIII will own any RPG that comes out for the 360 anyday, any generation.

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#133 dgsag
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[QUOTE="Fish_Muffins"]

The real honest truth here is the 360 is the current RPG KING. And there is no reason to say otherwise. Sure PS3 will have some RPG's. And yes most will opt out to use old faithful FF13 in 2014 or whenever it comes out 09/10 i guess at the earliest.

But clearly the 360 has been the leader in RPG's this gen. And seems to be ready to defend that crown for several more years to come.

I'll list many many titles if requested. Other wise only a brainwashed in denial fanboy would argue other wise.

Elviathan

Final Fantasy XIII will own any RPG that comes out for the 360 anyday, any generation.

IMO, Mass Effect just killed all of the appeal for the FF series for me.

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#134 Foxhound_spy
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:lol: to this thread and all lemmings here.....

Many PS3 RPG are yet to be release and you claim PS3 suffers RPG MELTDOWN......:lol::lol::lol:

Of course 360 have more RPG at this time because of 1 year early 360 launch but majority of it are an average RPG......Blue Dragon :lol: LO :lol: Eternal Sonata :lol:.......And you lems claim 360 achieve RPG greatness.......

You lems claiming FF13 will suck because FF12 & FFX-2 both sucks.......:lol:. Can I see your Crystal ball please ? In real world many FF fans buying both game. They always hunger for FF series......And FF series will always be the KING OF JRPG.....

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#135 Rage010101
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that would be true if 360 actually had any good exclusive rpgs. the only one it has is lost oddysey which was borderline average. the other one would be mass effect... but im playing that on my PC currently. i think it is safe to say that you are exagerating...especially once ff13 hits, and trust me...sony will soon see a storm of rpgs
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The real honest truth here is the 360 is the current RPG KING. And there is no reason to say otherwise. Sure PS3 will have some RPG's. And yes most will opt out to use old faithful FF13 in 2014 or whenever it comes out 09/10 i guess at the earliest.

But clearly the 360 has been the leader in RPG's this gen. And seems to be ready to defend that crown for several more years to come.

I'll list many many titles if requested. Other wise only a brainwashed in denial fanboy would argue other wise.

Fish_Muffins

Wrong. The current RPG King is the DS. Stop hyping the 360's line up all the time. If it really was THAT good like you fanboys claim, then there would be no need to continue making these outrageous proclamations.

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#137 SHuN_G0Ku
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i dont even know why you lemms are claiming the Xbox 360 an RPG King when it can't even surpass any FF series for the PS2..

imo, i think PS2 still remains as the RPG King of console..

but I like Blue Dragon though.., that was a good game

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#138 SHuN_G0Ku
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[QUOTE="manny280"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

Having more RPGS doesnt mean greatness... basically to put it in fanboys words

FFXIII > anything (RPG wise) Xbox360 has to offer...

clintos59

Mass Effect 2>FF 13

How u figure? Gamespot has always loved Final Fantasy Games. Heres a look at there scores.

FF12 Review: 9.0

FFX Review: 9.3

FF7 Review: 9.5

FF8 Review: 9.5

All these vs Mass Effect 360 Review 8.5

So u cant just come out saying that because FF13 is a very anticipated game and expect nothing less but ps3 goodness from FF13 and FF13 Versus.

:lol: epic lulz :lol:

someone actually claimed ME better than the FF series..??

Mass Effect is a good game but NOT that good...

if you ask me i'd take Chrono Trigger over ME any day and probably over any FF too... :P

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#139 ROCKBO
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I thought DS was the RPG king. I mean it has ALOT of rpg's now and still getting some.finalfantasy94

more doesn't necessarily mean better

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#141 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]I thought DS was the RPG king. I mean it has ALOT of rpg's now and still getting some.ROCKBO

more doesn't necessarily mean better

And less with lesser quality qualifies the 360 as RPG King?

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#142 whybuyaxbox360
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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]apart from oblivion I am not a huge RPG fan, but what is the RPG lis fot the 360 and ps3?st1ka

360 vs PS3? right now is Folklore for the PS3 and blue dragon lost odyssey and eternal sonata for the 360

oh and TC: the DS is king and queen when it comes to RPGs this generation

FFXIII > anything (RPG wise) Xbox360 has to offer...

Malta_1980

lets wait until the game is out shall we? after the terrible X-2 11 and the okish 12 im not too sure about 13

just cuz 2 games out of 12 were meh dont mean nuthing.....also u forgot about godly FF7 crisis core which is AAA btw FYI :wink:
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#143 whybuyaxbox360
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wait someone acctually compared ME to FF? lmfao flop effect will never ever be greater than FF sorry lemmings....Mass Flop will never be anything more than you guessed it...a epic flop.
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#144 funnymario
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Agreed. I cant wait for Tales and IU :D
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#145 blitzkid1
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Agreed. I cant wait for Tales and IU :Dfunnymario

Both look crap.

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#146 rumtumtugger
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wait someone acctually compared ME to FF? lmfao flop effect will never ever be greater than FF sorry lemmings....Mass Flop will never be anything more than you guessed it...a epic flop.whybuyaxbox360

Hardly, it's a great game. It just sold horribly. There aren't any RPG fans on the 360; even what is really a 3rd person shooter with RPG elements didn't sell well.

Which means RPGs x 99999 to 360 = $9999999999 of wasted money.

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#147 ROCKBO
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[QUOTE="ROCKBO"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]I thought DS was the RPG king. I mean it has ALOT of rpg's now and still getting some.Zhengi

more doesn't necessarily mean better

And less with lesser quality qualifies the 360 as RPG King?

im sorry, did i say that?

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#148 Fish_Muffins
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wait someone acctually compared ME to FF? lmfao flop effect will never ever be greater than FF sorry lemmings....Mass Flop will never be anything more than you guessed it...a epic flop.whybuyaxbox360

Wait did you really just say this? Yes Mass Effect may not of been AAA it was 8.5 none the less. And the ONLY the ONLY REASON it did not get AAA is because of some tech issues. Because as far as story story and gameplay and atmosphere it's far above most other games out there.

I can see how you go to the lengths you do to bash Mass Effect as you do. It's clearly out of your desperate anger of multiple sub par Sony exclusives that received only half the score of Mass Effect. like 4.5. So if you really want to talk about a flop please lets do this? Because i do not think 360 has any games that are on the 4.5 level and Sony has 2 major ones. And numerous others only slightly above that score.

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#149 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="whybuyaxbox360"]wait someone acctually compared ME to FF? lmfao flop effect will never ever be greater than FF sorry lemmings....Mass Flop will never be anything more than you guessed it...a epic flop.Fish_Muffins

Wait did you really just say this? Yes Mass Effect may not of been AAA it was 8.5 none the less. And the ONLY the ONLY REASON it did not get AAA is because of some tech issues. Because as far as story story and gameplay and atmosphere it's far above most other games out there.

I can see how you go to the lengths you do to bash Mass Effect as you do. It's clearly out of your desperate anger of multiple sub par Sony exclusives that received only half the score of Mass Effect. like 4.5. So if you really want to talk about a flop please lets do this? Because i do not think 360 has any games that are on the 4.5 level and Sony has 2 major ones. And numerous others only slightly above that score.

Lol, half of 8.5 isn't 4.5.

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#150 Fish_Muffins
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[QUOTE="whybuyaxbox360"]wait someone acctually compared ME to FF? lmfao flop effect will never ever be greater than FF sorry lemmings....Mass Flop will never be anything more than you guessed it...a epic flop.Chutebox

Wait did you really just say this? Yes Mass Effect may not of been AAA it was 8.5 none the less. And the ONLY the ONLY REASON it did not get AAA is because of some tech issues. Because as far as story story and gameplay and atmosphere it's far above most other games out there.

I can see how you go to the lengths you do to bash Mass Effect as you do. It's clearly out of your desperate anger of multiple sub par Sony exclusives that received only half the score of Mass Effect. like 4.5. So if you really want to talk about a flop please lets do this? Because i do not think 360 has any games that are on the 4.5 level and Sony has 2 major ones. And numerous others only slightly above that score.

Lol, half of 8.5 isn't 4.5.

You get my point