PS3 won't stand up against the Wii come this Fall

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#851 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="kong_sevixnine"]that makes NO sense.mitu123

Yes it does!

This is System Wars! What doesn't make sense makes sense here!

My mind has been blown. :shock:
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#852 HelloMoto56
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[QUOTE="kong_sevixnine"]that makes NO sense.mitu123

Yes it does!

This is System Wars! What doesn't make sense makes sense here!

offtopic: Kate Beckinsale (one of the most overrated chicks next to Megan Fox)?

Scarlett Johansson was so much better.

edit: lol, just realized you changed it back not two seconds before i posted this :lol:.

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#853 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="mystervj"] How does this thread lasting long shows how overrated PS3 is? mystervj

Because whenever the Wii does something right, the PS3 gets praised more.

Well you can't expect cows to not feed this thread by bashing the Wii.

You can't expect sense here either, but for them to do that(cows), it makes sense to them.

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#854 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="kong_sevixnine"]that makes NO sense.HelloMoto56

Yes it does!

This is System Wars! What doesn't make sense makes sense here!

offtopic: Kate Beckinsale (one of the most overrated chicks next to Megan Fox)?

Scarlett Johansson was so much better.

edit: lol, just realized you changed it back not two seconds before i posted this :lol:.

I have a avy/sig rotator.

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#855 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Because whenever the Wii does something right, the PS3 gets praised more.

Giancar

this is my reply to the post above

It's true though.:lol:

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#856 HelloMoto56
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I have a avy/sig rotator.

mitu123

oh, that's awesome.

i have this though:

and nothing beats that.

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#857 h575309
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[QUOTE="HelloMoto56"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

that makes NO sense.kong_sevixnine
Yes it does!

This is System Wars! What doesn't make sense makes sense here!

offtopic: Kate Beckinsale (one of the most overrated chicks next to Megan Fox)?

Scarlett Johansson was so much better.

edit: lol, just realized you changed it back not two seconds before i posted this :lol:.

offtopic: Hell no, Kate Beckinsale wins wars with her beauty ontopic: Uhh, I dont really have a comment.
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#858 mystervj
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[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

Thread started badly and got worse. You can't put conditions on like no exclusives and then boast about having the best library time and time again - multiplatform games count if you are making stupid remarks like that, and this is an area wii fails in so badly.

Of the games listed, two are 2D platformers, two are FPSs which, if released on another system would be derided for lack of quality (seriously, the board ignores games superior to these like singularity just because the other systems are flooded with better efforts, and one is a Mickey Mouse game?

Yeah, I'm so jealous I'm crying into my New Vegas screenshots.

Stevo_the_gamer

The focal point of the SystemWars metagame revolves around exclusives, and time and time again, the exclusive discussions are always brought up. It is not unreasonable to compare the upcoming exclusives between two platforms. I'm not even sure what side of the fence PS3 fans rest on when it comes to multiplatform games, first they count, then they don' but then they do again? It's always confusing for me.

Platformers are a beloved genre, one this generation doesn't have many about considering the huge array of shooters, racing, action adventure and sports. Four of these games are looking to be exceedingly good. Folks can debate Goldeneye and Coonduit 2. Goldeneye is on there since it's a highly anticipated title for the Wii, and the Conduit 2 is shaping to be good. Epic Mickey, I don't know if you saw the E3 footage, looks brilliant.

Of course, in the end, it's a to each his own deal...

How about we play this meta game, by discrediting Wii games cuz they suck, and any online component might as well be broke! Even if they do, can still count them as 3/4 of an actual game due to price point/content/gfx.
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#859 HelloMoto56
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offtopic: Hell no, Kate Beckinsale wins wars with her beauty ontopic: Uhh, I dont really have a comment.h575309

offtopic: but that's just it, she has a nice face..and THAT'S ABOUT IT! whoopty-doo!

Scarlett Johansson has a nice face and a FANTASTIC body.

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#860 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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How about we play this meta game, by discrediting Wii games cuz they suck, and any online component might as well be broke! Even if they do, can still count them as 3/4 of an actual game due to price point/content/gfx.mystervj

Are you yanking the chain? :P

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#861 HelloMoto56
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]How about we play this meta game, by discrediting Wii games cuz they suck, and any online component might as well be broke! Even if they do, can still count them as 3/4 of an actual game due to price point/content/gfx.Stevo_the_gamer

Are you yanking the chain? :P

this is System Wars.

the "not sure if serious" meme is redundant here.

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#862 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]How about we play this meta game, by discrediting Wii games cuz they suck, and any online component might as well be broke! Even if they do, can still count them as 3/4 of an actual game due to price point/content/gfx.Stevo_the_gamer

Are you yanking the chain? :P

Yanking what chain, the logic works flawlessly. It's compatible with the current implementation, it's just a more quantifiable approach to justify all the bashing on every Wii third party titles.

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#863 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Yanking what chain, the logic works flawlessly. mystervj
Not really. Though the online side of things is very valid, I've yet to see a Wii game that's implemented that in an great way.
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#865 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]Yanking what chain, the logic works flawlessly. Stevo_the_gamer
Not really. Though the online side of things is very valid, I've yet to see a Wii game that's implemented that in an great way.

Explain why it isn't valid, DS: Extraction will be free to all cows who buys DS2, so obviously Wii games don't worth as much as titles on HD platforms.
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Explain why it isn't valid, DS: Extraction will be free to all cows who buys DS2, so obviously Wii games don't worth as much as titles on HD platforms.mystervj
I don't see the correlation...
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[QUOTE="mystervj"] Explain why it isn't valid, DS: Extraction will be free to all cows who buys DS2, so obviously Wii games don't worth as much as titles on HD platforms.Stevo_the_gamer
I don't see the correlation...

An AA Wii title being free for PS3 users is enough to justify that some Wii titles are completely worthless.
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#868 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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An AA Wii title being free for PS3 users is enough to justify that some Wii titles are completely worthless.mystervj
How often does money-deals like that happen though to the Wii? I can get PC games for dirt cheap, doesn't mean their console counter parts are worthless... value is not universally set across all spectrums.

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#869 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]An AA Wii title being free for PS3 users is enough to justify that some Wii titles are completely worthless.Stevo_the_gamer

How often does money-deals like that happen though to the Wii? I can get PC games for dirt cheap, doesn't mean their console counter parts are worthless... value is not universally set across all spectrums.

Well you can play games like Trauma Team on flash, features same mechanics, superior control at the price point of free. Not to mention that Wii have gfx limitation that it will never over come, none of it's exclusives are going to amount to anything if they are just poor man's version of HD games.
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[QUOTE="mystervj"] Explain why it isn't valid, DS: Extraction will be free to all cows who buys DS2, so obviously Wii games don't worth as much as titles on HD platforms.Stevo_the_gamer
I don't see the correlation...

notice how he requested you explain how it isn't valid, and yet you blatantly ignored him and then turned around and threw a contradiction expecting him to explain the relation.

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notice how he requested you explain how it isn't validHelloMoto56
Explaining why all Wii games don't suck isn't worth my time or effort.
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#872 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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An AA Wii title being free for PS3 users is enough to justify that some Wii titles are completely worthless.mystervj
That's a very flawed line of reasoning. Especially because "free for PS3 users" does not mean "free at all". PS3 users not paying for Extraction does not mean no one did. At E3 it was evident who paid for it. [spoiler] Sony. [/spoiler]
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#873 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]An AA Wii title being free for PS3 users is enough to justify that some Wii titles are completely worthless.IronBass
That's a very flawed line of reasoning. Especially because "free for PS3 users" does not mean "free at all". PS3 users not paying for Extraction does not mean no one did. At E3 it was evident who paid for it. [spoiler] Sony. [/spoiler]

Not for consumers, if third party Wii games can be handed off so cheaply then you can't compare them one to one against HD games.
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Not for consumers, if third party Wii games can be handed off so cheaply then you can't compare them one to one against HD games.mystervj
I don't want to sound unfriendly, but you just repeated what you already said in your previous post. I already explained what that reasoning is flawed, just posting it again won't move the discussion forward.
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#875 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]Not for consumers, if third party Wii games can be handed off so cheaply then you can't compare them one to one against HD games.IronBass
I don't want to sound unfriendly, but you just repeated what you already said in your previous post. I already explained what that reasoning is flawed, just posting it again won't move the discussion forward.

Who paid for a free port doesn't make an existing Wii game worth any more or less, a game that looks like a PSN title only deserve to be treated so.
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]Not for consumers, if third party Wii games can be handed off so cheaply then you can't compare them one to one against HD games.IronBass
I don't want to sound unfriendly, but you just repeated what you already said in your previous post. I already explained what that reasoning is flawed, just posting it again won't move the discussion forward.

stating "i don't want to sound unfriendly" or "no offense" is sort of redundant considering it more than likely will only serve to piss the recipient off even further.

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#877 Half-Way
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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="kong_sevixnine"] Epic willy means Epic penis [QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="kong_sevixnine"]

Kirby's Epic yarn: I feel that anyone saying it looks cool isn't a kirby fan...

Call of Duty Black ops: More of the same, hoorah!

Epic Mickey: Epic mickey is more like Epic Willy.

Killzone3: The 1st sucked!

Dead Space: Extraction (move): It's by eurocom, and doesn't even match up to wii shooters, even shooters in the 1990's

Vanquish: Actually looks pretty Awesome

Plus the amount of "good" upcoming Ps3 games is MUCH smaller than the Wii's exclusive line up alone.kong_sevixnine

i just had to, fit so perfectly :P

Interesting what you did there. But K3 is the only one I'm totally sure about getting.

you shouldnt tell people that, especially when you just said DKCR is "More of the same", like killzone 3 isnt?

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Epic what? Okay? I don't get what the point of saying that.

Wanderer5
Yeah seriously that's laughable, almost sig worthy... You're calling a penis a willy? Are you 7 years old or something? That's stooping pretty low and contributes absolutely nothing to an argument. It just makes you look immature and shows that you have nothing legitimate to say bad about it because you haven't even seen gameplay.
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#879 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="mystervj"]Yanking what chain, the logic works flawlessly. mystervj
Not really. Though the online side of things is very valid, I've yet to see a Wii game that's implemented that in an great way.

Explain why it isn't valid, DS: Extraction will be free to all cows who buys DS2, so obviously Wii games don't worth as much as titles on HD platforms.

Yes let's discredit all Wii games and say they suck because ya know all games come out free for the PS3. I heard Super Mario Galaxy 2 is gonna be a free add on to Gran Turismo 5 because that game is gonna be so damn good for some stupid reason (seriously someone explain to me what's so great about it it looks boring as hell and the cars look like they move at 10 MPH, I'll stick to Modnation Racers thank you). So a AAAAE for Wii is free on PS3!!! LULZ

Seriously what the hell is this logic, it's horrible. It doesn't make any sense. DSE is only going to the PS3 for free because it sold like crap on the Wii and they want to do something else with it. It's not like all games do this...

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#880 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="kong_sevixnine"]

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

i just had to, fit so perfectly :P

Half-Way

Interesting what you did there. But K3 is the only one I'm totally sure about getting.

you shouldnt tell people that, especially when you just said DKCR is "More of the same", like killzone 3 isnt?

No of course it isn't haven't you seen? They're adding the color white and giving the Helghast jetpacks and snow jackets :roll:. Funny how anyone can look at Kirby Epic Yarn or DKCR and say it's just nostalgic/more of the same, then hype Killzone 3. Seriously that game will change even less than SMG2 from SMG1 but the Cows won't care because suddenly it helps them. Fanboys are a sad, sad species of people, unless they're the type who admit to preferring one but can admit faults. Hermits seem to be pretty easy going, Sheep as well, and a large portion of Lemmings are level headed. Said to say since I like my PS3 so much, but Cows are far and wide the most obnoxious fanboys here. They're still butthurt about their weak start and how the PS3 is still getting crushed in sales, so the second a few good games came along they waved their internet c**ks around and started acting like they're easily the best. Even with this spike in quality it's still trailing the 360's sales by millions. But no they deny that too, they honestly think it's gonna pass the 360. Yeah, right. No chance. So of course the Wii comes along, has been beating it handily all year, and the upcoming season looks like it's gonna crush the PS3. They all have to freak out and declare GT5 the work of Jesus Christ himself, even though it's just another damn boring racing sim with nice graphics, and say LittleBigPlanet 2 is worth 5 games because of all the content (I'll admit it's gonna be a tight game, I have the CE pre-ordered). Lemmings and Sheep took their defeat last year and it was almost unanimous that the PS3 won 2009. Now the Cows have to accept they're being beat.
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#881 ZIVX
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That is a pretty safe assumption to make. If these games are advertised properly then of course they will sell more, if the past taught us anything.

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#882 Bazooka_4ME
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[QUOTE="HelloMoto56"]notice how he requested you explain how it isn't validStevo_the_gamer
Explaining why all Wii games don't suck isn't worth my time or effort.

But showing how PS3 games not being able to stand up sure seems to make your time worthwhile. Shows yet your true hatred against the PS3. :roll: Just accept it dude, the PS3 is holding and making its grounds. No need to downgrade it based on competition.
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#883 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Not really. Though the online side of things is very valid, I've yet to see a Wii game that's implemented that in an great way.oldkingallant

Explain why it isn't valid, DS: Extraction will be free to all cows who buys DS2, so obviously Wii games don't worth as much as titles on HD platforms.

Yes let's discredit all Wii games and say they suck because ya know all games come out free for the PS3. I heard Super Mario Galaxy 2 is gonna be a free add on to Gran Turismo 5 because that game is gonna be so damn good for some stupid reason (seriously someone explain to me what's so great about it it looks boring as hell and the cars look like they move at 10 MPH, I'll stick to Modnation Racers thank you). So a AAAAE for Wii is free on PS3!!! LULZ

Seriously what the hell is this logic, it's horrible. It doesn't make any sense. DSE is only going to the PS3 for free because it sold like crap on the Wii and they want to do something else with it. It's not like all games do this...

I didn't discredit all Wii games, just some of them, and none of them are first party. A couple of them are indeed on a level of flash based free-ware, one to one comparison looks odd to me. Oh yeah and GT5 is for car fans, it's niche genre, if your not into it your not into it, and isn't facepalm meme disallowed? :P
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#884 Half-Way
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[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="kong_sevixnine"] Interesting what you did there. But K3 is the only one I'm totally sure about getting.

oldkingallant

you shouldnt tell people that, especially when you just said DKCR is "More of the same", like killzone 3 isnt?

No of course it isn't haven't you seen? They're adding the color white and giving the Helghast jetpacks and snow jackets :roll:. Funny how anyone can look at Kirby Epic Yarn or DKCR and say it's just nostalgic/more of the same, then hype Killzone 3. Seriously that game will change even less than SMG2 from SMG1 but the Cows won't care because suddenly it helps them. Fanboys are a sad, sad species of people, unless they're the type who admit to preferring one but can admit faults. Hermits seem to be pretty easy going, Sheep as well, and a large portion of Lemmings are level headed. Said to say since I like my PS3 so much,but Cows are far and wide the most obnoxious fanboys here. They're still butthurt about their weak start and how the PS3 is still getting crushed in sales, so the second a few good games came along they waved their internet c**ks around and started acting like they're easily the best. Even with this spike in quality it's still trailing the 360's sales by millions. But no they deny that too, they honestly think it's gonna pass the 360. Yeah, right. No chance. So of course the Wii comes along, has been beating it handily all year, and the upcoming season looks like it's gonna crush the PS3. They all have to freak out and declare GT5 the work of Jesus Christ himself, even though it's just another damn boring racing sim with nice graphics, and say LittleBigPlanet 2 is worth 5 games because of all the content (I'll admit it's gonna be a tight game, I have the CE pre-ordered). Lemmings and Sheep took their defeat last year and it was almost unanimous that the PS3 won 2009. Now the Cows have to accept they're being beat.

shhh, dont let phaze-two see you :P

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But showing how PS3 games not being able to stand up sure seems to make your time worthwhile. Shows yet your true hatred against the PS3. :roll: Just accept it dude, the PS3 is holding and making its grounds. No need to downgrade it based on competition.Bazooka_4ME
One is a silly argument to go into, calling all Wii games bad is just blatantly silly and there's no reason for me to even attempt to debate it, and the other (this thread) is a very valid one considering the emphasis placed on the SystemWars Metagame. True hatred against the PS3... lol Right.
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#886 yokofox33
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Yep. Agree with you there. The Wii has a great lineup this fall even though I'm only getting 2 titles.

As much as I love the PS3 the only exclusive I'm looking forward to is Atelier Rorona. And that will be at best a mediocre JRPG.

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#887 The-Magus-D
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There are good Wii games coming out later. I don't really care about playing most of them :(. On PS3 I want to play Littlebigplanet 2 more than anything on the wii. More than that i want to play black ops. Im not getting that game on the wii i'm getting it on 360.

I can't live without my 360 or PS3 but i can live without my Wii.

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Who paid for a free port doesn't make an existing Wii game worth any more or less, a game that looks like a PSN title only deserve to be treated so.mystervj

Who paid for it changes much when your argument about its worth was based on it being "free".

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#889 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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stating "i don't want to sound unfriendly" or "no offense" is sort of redundant considering it more than likely will only serve to piss the recipient off even further.HelloMoto56
No, it will serve to indicate that my tone is not unfriendly. Which is wasn't, it was just a (friendly) remark.
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#890 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="mystervj"]Not for consumers, if third party Wii games can be handed off so cheaply then you can't compare them one to one against HD games.mystervj
I don't want to sound unfriendly, but you just repeated what you already said in your previous post. I already explained what that reasoning is flawed, just posting it again won't move the discussion forward.

Who paid for a free port doesn't make an existing Wii game worth any more or less, a game that looks like a PSN title only deserve to be treated so.

"Who paid for a free port..." really? who paid for a free port, if it were free it would not have been paid for. must we start breaking out the dictionary?
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#891 _Cadbury_
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Eh how convenient to focus on fall. The PS3 has already had major games released this year and a whole heap of more top of the class games coming out next year. But yeah, I guess it's better to have no spacing between your games and have them thrown at you all at once.
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#894 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I'm not gona argue third party Wii games are free-wares, or crap. Just not enough to meet the expectations of full games on PS3.mystervj
That's simply not true.
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#895 mystervj
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[QUOTE="mystervj"]I'm not gona argue third party Wii games are free-wares, or crap. Just not enough to meet the expectations of full games on PS3.IronBass
That's simply not true.

How so, even Sony places Move games at a lower price point while offering remarkably similar games as the Wii with superior gfx.
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#896 EdenProxy
Member since 2010 • 1561 Posts

I played those games 10 years ago. Sure they were a bit diff and in SD but there basically the same.

Thats my opionion

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#897 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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How so, even Sony places Move games at a lower price point while offering remarkably similar games as the Wii with superior gfx.mystervj
Move's price has nothing to do with the discussion. Some of those 3th party Wii games are simply superb games, saying they don't meet the expectations of PS3 games is simply false.
I played those games 10 years ago. Sure they were a bit diff and in SD but there basically the same.Thats my opionionEdenProxy
An opinion on games you haven't played. =/
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#898 Half-Way
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I played those games 10 years ago. Sure they were a bit diff and in SD but there basically the same.

Thats my opionion

EdenProxy

sounds alot like the games releasing for the ps3 aswell

especially the FPS

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#899 Giancar
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but Cows are far and wide the most obnoxious fanboys here. oldkingallant
that's so incorrect, all fanboy are EXACTLY the same given the proper ammo... Sheep and Lems 06, 07 Lems 08 Cows now It's just the momentum, just like other factions had theirs :?