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#51 Wanderer5
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the people porting this to NA are atlus, makers of persona 4, right?_Verm

Yes they are the makers of Shin Megami Tensei series.

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#52 coltsfan4ever
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[QUOTE="Cookigaki"]Cookigaki will be getting this game, Cookigaki love all his games to be difficult.DonMarkito
you fail at getting attention

Seems like he got your attention.lol Anyway this game looks good. I hate very difficult games but I may pick this up if its fun and not too hard.

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[QUOTE="Evolved_One"]deepest and most beloved RPG? no one really talked about this game ...BioShockOwnz

Where have you been? Have you seen the majority of import reviews and player reactions (other than my own ;))? There is no other PS3 exclusive RPG that has done this well and/or is this deep.

Well, Valkyria Chronicles has a pretty strong critical acclaim, and it's a fairly deep game. This won't score very well though, in the west. It'll be marked down drastically for it's biggest selling point; its difficulty. It's not a game to hype, at all, for that reason alone. It'll be a game that's great for a certain audience, and not much else, due to the crushing difficulty, and well, to be quite frank, low production values. Still, a game I'll be buying day 1, especially with it's excellent pre-order package
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#54 JigglyWiggly_
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It looks like Oblivion :P
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#55 hy4k
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i've seen videos of this and it seems really slow and clunky but the people who played it love it
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#56 Senor_Kami
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What the combat like? Assuming those screens are gameplay and not CGI, it looks like Ninja Gaiden style action but I doubt that. Realtime in a JRPG usually just means you can close your eyes and mash the a button non-stop and you'll win every battle with ease.
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#57 Giancar
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im getting Sigma 2 in september...Uncharted 2 in november, but i really want this one too.... :(

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#58 _Verm
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What the combat like? Assuming those screens are gameplay and not CGI, it looks like Ninja Gaiden style action but I doubt that. Realtime in a JRPG usually just means you can close your eyes and mash the a button non-stop and you'll win every battle with ease.Senor_Kami
its not a JRPG. its a action, WRPG. its more like oblivion/monsterhunter, and this game has hard-ish difficulty
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#59 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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What the combat like? Assuming those screens are gameplay and not CGI, it looks like Ninja Gaiden style action but I doubt that. Realtime in a JRPG usually just means you can close your eyes and mash the a button non-stop and you'll win every battle with ease.Senor_Kami
its not a button masher, timing your attacks is very important
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[QUOTE="Im_single"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]its not that difficult but a single mistake can send you back to the begining of the level.toast_burner

Define mistake, like a mistake whilst fighting enemies or falling into a trap. Back the beginning of a level? No checkpoints during levels?

this video explains what i mean

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/asian-version-demons-souls/46896

At 1:50 he makesthe mistake. At 1:55 the game punishes him.

damn that video is WIN!! :) and I bet thats just the tutorial too! I've been waiting sooo long for a dark gritty RPG like this.
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#61 finesse-gamer
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Little late? I think everyone knows this already. Good news anyway. Don't you hate this game?aaronmullan

he hates it, he just wanted to highlight the fact that "PS3's deepest and most beloved RPG" is a game he doesn't like.

and yes its old news.

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#62 2-10-08
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Just a heads up, this game is going to flop hard. The difficulty level will not be helping this game in reviews.

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#63 _Verm
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Just a heads up, this game is going to flop hard. The difficulty level will not be helping this game in reviews.

2-10-08
Sure it is. That's why half the reviews give it a 9/10 and the user rating on GS is 8.9/10.
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[QUOTE="Nocturnal_Speed"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Define mistake, like a mistake whilst fighting enemies or falling into a trap. Back the beginning of a level? No checkpoints during levels?Im_single
this video explains what i mean

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/asian-version-demons-souls/46896

At 1:50 he makesthe mistake. At 1:55 the game punishes him.

damn that video is WIN!! :) and I bet thats just the tutorial too! I've been waiting sooo long for a dark gritty RPG like this.

yep thats just the tutorial.
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#65 Nocturnal_Speed
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]yep thats just the tutorial. toast_burner
wow thats weird, because I just saw it in the top right corner after watching the video for again.
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#66 metalpower08
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Does that mean a Canadian release as well?

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Looks awesome, but is it really as amazing as people are making it out to be? AAllxxjjnn

Pretty much.

There aren't a lot of games like it. It's a very dark, very difficult action-RPG. It's pretty unforgiving, but it's rarely unfair. It has a great sense of atmosphere, and that, combined with the difficulty, make the game very tense and exhilirating to play. The difficulty also gives you an amazing sense of accomplishment when you conquer difficult challenges and advance your character.

The combat isn't really complicated, but all the weapons work differently and the enemies are very varied, so your tactical decisions have a huge impact on the outcome of a battle. The game makes you feel the impossibility of the odds you're up against, and it doesn't really hold your hand, but you generally always have the tools to succeed.

It's an exciting and extremely rewarding game to play, if you're willing to accept the hurdles the game gives you.

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Great game, for skilled RPG players only.
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#69 Im_single
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[QUOTE="Im_single"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]its not that difficult but a single mistake can send you back to the begining of the level.toast_burner

Define mistake, like a mistake whilst fighting enemies or falling into a trap. Back the beginning of a level? No checkpoints during levels?

this video explains what i mean

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/asian-version-demons-souls/46896

At 1:50 he makesthe mistake. At 1:55 the game punishes him.

Ah, I see I see. Running headfirst into a Mannoroth lookalike is a mistake indeed,
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#70 sonicmj1
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What the combat like? Assuming those screens are gameplay and not CGI, it looks like Ninja Gaiden style action but I doubt that. Realtime in a JRPG usually just means you can close your eyes and mash the a button non-stop and you'll win every battle with ease.Senor_Kami

This plays nothing like any JRPG on the market. Button mashing is not an option. Your moves are generally pretty deliberate, and all your actions are limited by a replenishing stamina meter. You or your enemies will usually be stunned if they are hit. If you leave yourself open, opponents' attacks will often do a lot of damage. You will face enemies early on that can take off half your health in a single swing.

It's nothing like Ninja Gaiden (far, far slower), but when thinking about the combat, it's more comparable to an action game than a JRPG.

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#71 _Verm
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Great game, for skilled RPG players only.djsifer01
You don't have to be skilled. thats a myth. you just have to be smart at attacking. the RPG elements in this game don't affect it that much.
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#72 djsifer01
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Great game, for skilled RPG players only._Verm
You don't have to be skilled. thats a myth. you just have to be smart at attacking. the RPG elements in this game don't affect it that much.

Dude i have the game and have played i for several hours. It takes patience and some skill. Not a game for people who arent experienced RPG players.
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#73 _Verm
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[QUOTE="_Verm"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]Great game, for skilled RPG players only.djsifer01
You don't have to be skilled. thats a myth. you just have to be smart at attacking. the RPG elements in this game don't affect it that much.

Dude i have the game and have played i for several hours. It takes patience and some skill. Not a game for people who arent experienced RPG players.

Its a game for anyone looking for a challenge. also, it gets easier after the first area/level
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#74 GodofBigMacs
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deepest and most beloved RPG? no one really talked about this game ...Evolved_One
Orly? I beg to differ.
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#75 djsifer01
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[QUOTE="_Verm"][QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="_Verm"] You don't have to be skilled. thats a myth. you just have to be smart at attacking. the RPG elements in this game don't affect it that much.

Dude i have the game and have played i for several hours. It takes patience and some skill. Not a game for people who arent experienced RPG players.

Its a game for anyone looking for a challenge. also, it gets easier after the first area/level

After you kill the first Demon it gets quite easier i agree.
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#76 nervmeister
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I'm concerned about it's difficulty. Is it challenging or is it just stupid design decision tough?heretrix

Well, one source in particular that if you get killed it's your own fault, not the game's.

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#77 ___gamemaster__
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i thought TC hates this game?? i've play and finish this game and i'll tell you this game is very addicitng at the same time very frustrating.. boss fight can kill you in 1-3 hits.

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#78 zarshack
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Well, Valkyria Chronicles has a pretty strong critical acclaim, and it's a fairly deep game. This won't score very well though, in the west. It'll be marked down drastically for it's biggest selling point; its difficulty. It's not a game to hype, at all, for that reason alone. It'll be a game that's great for a certain audience, and not much else, due to the crushing difficulty, and well, to be quite frank, low production values. Still, a game I'll be buying day 1, especially with it's excellent pre-order packagejonnyt61
I have the game, and you make it sound harder then it is :S and the game doesnt look like it has low production values, it has great visuals, and music, and when you arent dying constantly is a real blast too play, i see no reason for it to get marked down by critics for its difficulty considering how well games like ninja gaiden score inspite of how hard they are.

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#79 blazndragon0
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Oh hell yeah right before my birthday. I know one thing that's on my list~
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#80 NoobisMaxcimus
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I think TC is just trying to tell everyone how elite he is. He hates the game, but the " PS3's deepest and most beloved RPG" is still beneath him.

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#81 johnlennon28
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one of the best games I played in 09, definitely worth it, no regrets importing it, just an advice, dont play it as a hack n slash kinda game, and be patient and its very rewarding.
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#82 Jfisch93
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I'll be importing it from the US as soon as it's released.I heard that the US verison is going to be made easier though.Not sure if it's true.

MJPK

They might add an easier difficulty, for the wimps. You know America... always wanting things easier (I'm American don't shoot me!)

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#83 menserman
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looks cool. i`ll be watching ebay for it. anything under 35 shipped and its mine!!!
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"] Well, Valkyria Chronicles has a pretty strong critical acclaim, and it's a fairly deep game. This won't score very well though, in the west. It'll be marked down drastically for it's biggest selling point; its difficulty. It's not a game to hype, at all, for that reason alone. It'll be a game that's great for a certain audience, and not much else, due to the crushing difficulty, and well, to be quite frank, low production values. Still, a game I'll be buying day 1, especially with it's excellent pre-order packagezarshack

I have the game, and you make it sound harder then it is :S and the game doesnt look like it has low production values, it has great visuals, and music, and when you arent dying constantly is a real blast too play, i see no reason for it to get marked down by critics for its difficulty considering how well games like ninja gaiden score inspite of how hard they are.

well, after reading the reviews of the people that have played it...it looks like its WAY more frustrating/harder/difficult/painfull than NG games...

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#85 Mr_Apple_Soup
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this is definetly a "try before you buy" type of game. it just seems too fustrating for me to even consider buying it.

NEED...STRESS...RELIEF :x

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#86 finalfantasy94
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I have a feeling some reviews will hate the difficulty. It seems it matches the difficulty of olden games. Like from the nes and snes era.

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#87 Ipik_Fenris
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I think this game will get an 8 in here...just because the difficulty level...mabe and 8.5 :o

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#88 santoron
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I've now got two guys on my Friends List playing this game, and every time I see them online, it makes me want this game more. October cannot get here soon enough.
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#89 _Verm
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I think this game will get an 8 in here...just because the difficulty level...mabe and 8.5 :o

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Difficulty should not and does not affect a games rating score if done right
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#90 Blue-Sky
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This is an action! RPG The Game play resembles Onimusha. .

Those looking for an interactive journey with exploration, deep story and enjoyable cast will be disappointed. Not saying it will be a bad game, but they are already people comparing this to Oblivion and Mass Effect. This is not even in the same league as those two.

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#91 masterdante
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yakuza 3 pleasee come to us

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#92 Gxgear
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Can't wait for this.

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#93 kingdre
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Good for you RPG fans, I guess.

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#94 ultima-flare
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Is this considered a 3rd party exclusive? Sony published in Japan, but Atlus in the US.
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#95 jerkface96
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I'm concerned about it's difficulty. Is it challenging or is it just stupid design decision tough? While I don't mind a challenge, games that are hard just to be hard are annoying as hell to me. I like to enjoy my RPGs, not get beat over the head by them.

heretrix
a lotof reviews said its challenging nothing about stupid design.
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i'm soo glad i have this game imported. yea, it will bite you in the a** real bad when you start playing it. although as you get farther in the game, it will grow on you. you have to let yourself die in this game to appreciate its difficulty. it isn't a frustrating, it's just that it's no 'bust your way through' kund of game. it's a deep rpg. it's much better that fallout 3 and oblivion combined, i would dare say. the onlnie is really cool. you can go to other player's map and kill them to ge ttheir souls, or, you can even be a boss on their world and beat the hell out of 'em. lol. plus it's not region-locked.

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#97 Shad0ki11
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They have the game at Anime Expo. You can buy the full English version there. lol.

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#98 nervmeister
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I'm calling A here. AA-AAA almost everywhere else.
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#99 _Verm
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I'm calling A here. AA-AAA almost everywhere else.nervmeister
I can gaurentee gamespot won't make themselves look bad by being the only one to flop a game due to its difficulty.
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#100 Jono789
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Is there online co op in this?