PS4 4K resolution....here we go again

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Come on ShadowMoses... just cut the crap. :P

My PC is much more powerful, does that mean it's a super super super super super super super super computer?

04dcarraher

It is not crap, it is the truth. Just accept it.

PS3 even powers military jets, drones, and other super computers. No other system can do this.

U.S. Air Force Finishes PS3 Supercomputer of Epic Proportions

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"-Marc Stevens, Arjen K. Lenstra, and Benne de Weger (Tech Geniuses)

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is also used to power high end medical tech. PS3 saves lives. No other system can do this.

Medical research

In 2010 They could have used GTX 480's which you would only need 370 of them.

So, what say you, how many 680 GTX's would you need to match those results?

I'm curious :P

@Shadow

If PS3 is indeed such a supercomputer, than why can't it pull off 1080p w/ 60 FPS in any game using a more complex 3D engine?

Why won't it allow for 64 player maps in BF3?

Also, about that medical research link, have you missed this part:

"On March 22, 2007, SCE and Stanford University expanded the Folding@home project to the PS3. Along with thousands of PCs already joined over the Internet, PS3 owners are able to lend the computing power of their game systems to the study of improper protein folding and associated diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Huntington's, cystic fibrosis, and several forms of cancer"

PC has been "saving lives" with F@H for years, PS3 only joined up later :D

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It is not crap, it is the truth. Just accept it.

PS3 even powers military jets, drones, and other super computers. No other system can do this.

U.S. Air Force Finishes PS3 Supercomputer of Epic Proportions

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"-Marc Stevens, Arjen K. Lenstra, and Benne de Weger (Tech Geniuses)

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is also used to power high end medical tech. PS3 saves lives. No other system can do this.

Medical research

Rocker6

In 2010 They could have used GTX 480's which you would only need 370 of them.

So, what say you, how many 680 GTX's would you need to match those results?

I'm curious :P

@Shadow

If PS3 is indeed such a supercomputer, than why can't it pull off 1080p w/ 60 FPS in any game using a more complex 3D engine?

Why won't it allow for 64 player maps in BF3?

That's exactly what I'm saying. No offense ShadowMoses, but it seems that you're blind to what you're seeing in PS3 games. They're no way look as good as PC. So just drop the 'supercomputer' nonsense for good.

That's exactly what I'm saying. No offense ShadowMoses, but it seems that you're blind to what you're seeing in PS3 games. They're no way look as good as PC. So just drop the 'supercomputer' nonsense for good.

GamerwillzPS

He won't...

At first, it probably started as an act, but over the years, the delusional act replaced the common sense, so his perception of reality is obviously severely warped.

I respond to him only to have some fun, and to see what new form of nonsense he can pull out of his ass! :P

Ohh Sony being Sony.. Like PS2=Toy Story level of graphics and the PS3 Dual 1080p 120fps Monitors support. What next "the PS4 uses the same cpu of the

Curiosity rover"

ocidax

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Come on ShadowMoses... just cut the crap. :P

My PC is much more powerful, does that mean it's a super super super super super super super super computer?

ocidax

It is not crap, it is the truth. Just accept it.

PS3 even powers military jets, drones, and other super computers. No other system can do this.

U.S. Air Force Finishes PS3 Supercomputer of Epic Proportions

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"-Marc Stevens, Arjen K. Lenstra, and Benne de Weger (Tech Geniuses)

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is also used to power high end medical tech. PS3 saves lives. No other system can do this.

Medical research

4K resoultion. Yeah when we can see 4K running at; lets be fair to consoles, 30FPS and it looks good I shall be impressed. Purely because to have something that high in resolution will need ALOT of power.

[QUOTE="ocidax"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It is not crap, it is the truth. Just accept it.

PS3 even powers military jets, drones, and other super computers. No other system can do this.

U.S. Air Force Finishes PS3 Supercomputer of Epic Proportions

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"-Marc Stevens, Arjen K. Lenstra, and Benne de Weger (Tech Geniuses)

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is also used to power high end medical tech. PS3 saves lives. No other system can do this.

Medical research

tormentos

So, in other words:

PS3:

It only does everything... besides gaming! :P

Sorry, PS3 is intended to be a gaming console first and foremost, and CELL isn't that good for game development, unless if you're a very well funded first-party dev with little to no time and budget constraints.

Architecture-wise, 360 is a much more elegantly designed console...

Lol The military are idiots a whole 500 TFLOPS with 1700 Cell processors, in 2009 You could have grabbed 537 GTX 280's with CUDA and used them and would have been faster.....

In 2010 They could have used GTX 480's which you would only need 370 of them.

04dcarraher

So, in other words:

PS3:

It only does everything... besides gaming! :P

Sorry, PS3 is intended to be a gaming console first and foremost, and CELL isn't that good for game development, unless if you're a very well funded first-party dev with little to no time and budget constraints.

Architecture-wise, 360 is a much more elegantly designed console...

Rocker6

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]So, in other words:

PS3:

It only does everything... besides gaming! :P

Sorry, PS3 is intended to be a gaming console first and foremost, and CELL isn't that good for game development, unless if you're a very well funded first-party dev with little to no time and budget constraints.

Architecture-wise, 360 is a much more elegantly designed console...

tormentos

By elegantly designed, I didn't mean more powerful. And many multiplats do have a resolution/visual asset advantage on the 360.

Also, PS3 and 360 hardware power is on an equal ground, more or less, PS3 has a very slight advantage, but there is nothing on the PS3 that blows the 360 out of water.

As I said, only first-party devs with minimal time and budget constraints can utilize the full potential of PS3 hardware, but even games like UC3 who do it aren't that far ahead of 360 games like Gears of War 3.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]So, in other words:

PS3:

It only does everything... besides gaming! :P

Sorry, PS3 is intended to be a gaming console first and foremost, and CELL isn't that good for game development, unless if you're a very well funded first-party dev with little to no time and budget constraints.

Architecture-wise, 360 is a much more elegantly designed console...

tormentos

The simple thing is that PS3 is the best for exclusives and X360 is the best for multiplats.

PS3 is the console you should steer well clear of when it comes to multiplats. According to 3rd party devs, the PS3 is a b!tch to work for.

What shadow moses failed to point out is that this is all to do with hacking and brute force attacks, it's the only time a single Ps3 is this powerful, the Cell is just better than other CPU's for crunching numbers, which is what a brute force attack is and this article was written early in the life of the Ps3, PC's have become much more powerful since then, Ironic that the Ps3 is one of the best hacking tools in the industry with the amount of trouble SONY has had with hackers,loldelta3074

The simple thing is that PS3 is the best for exclusives and X360 is the best for multiplats.

PS3 is the console you should steer well clear of when it comes to multiplats. According to 3rd party devs, the PS3 is a b!tch to work for.GamerwillzPS

By elegantly designed, I didn't mean more powerful. And many multiplats do have a resolution/visual asset advantage on the 360.

Also, PS3 and 360 hardware power is on an equal ground, more or less, PS3 has a very slight advantage, but there is nothing on the PS3 that blows the 360 out of water.

As I said, only first-party devs with minimal time and budget constraints can utilize the full potential of PS3 hardware, but even games like UC3 who do it aren't that far ahead of 360 games like Gears of War 3.

Rocker6

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]The simple thing is that PS3 is the best for exclusives and X360 is the best for multiplats.

PS3 is the console you should steer well clear of when it comes to multiplats. According to 3rd party devs, the PS3 is a b!tch to work for.tormentos

Yeah, you're right. PS3 exclusives does look better than X360, and it's true that PS3 has some superior multiplats but the X360 has many more, so I get more confidence in X360 getting a superior version than the PS3. GTA 5 is likely to be superior on the X360, but I don't care since I'm getting it on PC.

Then how come there's a little difference between the PS3 and X360? PS3 is like 5% more powerful. If it's a 'supercomputer', it would be thousands of times more powerful! Where's 1080p at 60fps with beautiful graphics on PS3? Nope, it doesn't exist because it's simply not powerful enough.

These are supercomputers />

Face the fact, the PS3 is not a supercomputer.

GamerwillzPS

Yeah, you're right. PS3 exclusives does look better than X360, and it's true that PS3 has some superior multiplats but the X360 has many more, so I get more confidence in X360 getting a superior version than the PS3. GTA 5 is likely to be superior on the X360, but I don't care since I'm getting it on PC.GamerwillzPS

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]Then how come there's a little difference between the PS3 and X360? PS3 is like 5% more powerful. If it's a 'supercomputer', it would be thousands of times more powerful! Where's 1080p at 60fps with beautiful graphics on PS3? Nope, it doesn't exist because it's simply not powerful enough.

These are supercomputers />

Face the fact, the PS3 is not a supercomputer.

tormentos

Wipeout HD doesn't have a complex engine, dude. Do you really think the PS3 can handle Crysis at 60fps? No, it won't. It has a much more complicated engine.

Hell, PS3 version of Crysis is in the Low setting and can't even run it well in performance wise...

Wipeout HD doesn't have a complex engine, dude. Do you really think the PS3 can handle Crysis at 60fps? No, it won't. It has a much more complicated engine.

Hell, PS3 version of Crysis is in the Low setting and can't even run it well in performance wise...

GamerwillzPS

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]Wipeout HD doesn't have a complex engine, dude. Do you really think the PS3 can handle Crysis at 60fps? No, it won't. It has a much more complicated engine.

Hell, PS3 version of Crysis is in the Low setting and can't even run it well in performance wise...

tormentos

I know. X360 wouldn't be able to handle PS3 games. If Wipeout HD was on the X360, it would be capped at 30fps, probably. Lems may flame me over this, but I've NEVER seen a X360 game being that good in terms of visuals and performance combined.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]Wipeout HD doesn't have a complex engine, dude. Do you really think the PS3 can handle Crysis at 60fps? No, it won't. It has a much more complicated engine.

Hell, PS3 version of Crysis is in the Low setting and can't even run it well in performance wise...

GamerwillzPS

I know. X360 wouldn't be able to handle PS3 games. If Wipeout HD was on the X360, it would be capped at 30fps, probably. Lems may flame me over this, but I've NEVER seen a X360 game being that good in terms of visuals and performance combined.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]Wipeout HD doesn't have a complex engine, dude. Do you really think the PS3 can handle Crysis at 60fps? No, it won't. It has a much more complicated engine.

Hell, PS3 version of Crysis is in the Low setting and can't even run it well in performance wise...

GamerwillzPS

I know. X360 wouldn't be able to handle PS3 games. If Wipeout HD was on the X360, it would be capped at 30fps, probably. Lems may flame me over this, but I've NEVER seen a X360 game being that good in terms of visuals and performance combined.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It is not crap, it is the truth. Just accept it.

PS3 even powers military jets, drones, and other super computers. No other system can do this.

U.S. Air Force Finishes PS3 Supercomputer of Epic Proportions

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"-Marc Stevens, Arjen K. Lenstra, and Benne de Weger (Tech Geniuses)

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is also used to power high end medical tech. PS3 saves lives. No other system can do this.

Medical research

Rocker6

In 2010 They could have used GTX 480's which you would only need 370 of them.

So, what say you, how many 680 GTX's would you need to match those results?

I'm curious :P

@Shadow

If PS3 is indeed such a supercomputer, than why can't it pull off 1080p w/ 60 FPS in any game using a more complex 3D engine?

Why won't it allow for 64 player maps in BF3?

Also, about that medical research link, have you missed this part:

"On March 22, 2007, SCE and Stanford University expanded the Folding@home project to the PS3. Along with thousands of PCs already joined over the Internet, PS3 owners are able to lend the computing power of their game systems to the study of improper protein folding and associated diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Huntington's, cystic fibrosis, and several forms of cancer"

PC has been "saving lives" with F@H for years, PS3 only joined up later :D

[QUOTE="delta3074"]What shadow moses failed to point out is that this is all to do with hacking and brute force attacks, it's the only time a single Ps3 is this powerful, the Cell is just better than other CPU's for crunching numbers, which is what a brute force attack is and this article was written early in the life of the Ps3, PC's have become much more powerful since then, Ironic that the Ps3 is one of the best hacking tools in the industry with the amount of trouble SONY has had with hackers,loltormentos

[QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

How about getting the games run at 1080p at steady 60 and good AA and AF first?

Like it was promised with the PS3...

seanmcloughlin

Watching Sony's E3 2005 still gives me a good laugh. 1080P on all games! 60fps! Dual HDMI!

And all those prerendered trailers xD

Pretty funny when you think of it now. Yet they will all believe the garbage sony and MS claim this time too

The cycle repeats itself with each new gen :P

680 has a theoretical peak of 3 TFlops for 32bit single-precision arithmetic. 480 has a theoretical peak of 1.5 TFlops for 32bit single-precision arithmetic.ronvalencia

I see...

What about your favorite HD 7970, how does it stack up?

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It is not crap, it is the truth. Just accept it.

PS3 even powers military jets, drones, and other super computers. No other system can do this.

U.S. Air Force Finishes PS3 Supercomputer of Epic Proportions

"A single PlayStation 3 performs like a cluster of 30 PCs at the price of only one"-Marc Stevens, Arjen K. Lenstra, and Benne de Weger (Tech Geniuses)

PlayStation 3 cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is also used to power high end medical tech. PS3 saves lives. No other system can do this.

Medical research

Rocker6

In 2010 They could have used GTX 480's which you would only need 370 of them.

So, what say you, how many 680 GTX's would you need to match those results?

I'm curious :

:( It looks like Sony is set on making themselfes go out of business. If this rumor is true, then I'm willing to bet that the PS4 will be well over $1,000. Also, how many people actually have 4k Tvs? Almost none? So then we can almost be certain that if you want to get the proper experience from the PS4 you will need to spend a crap ton of money. Then, what about the games? How much will they cost? Well over $100? Good lord Sony...

Oh and then memory storage...how much memory would a 10 hour long 4k res game take up?

Well GTX 680 can do 3 TFLOPS at peak so just divide 500 by 3 so you would only need 166 of them to match or surpass that cluster of shame.

04dcarraher

LOL, cluster of shame indeed! :lol:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1382945/Sony-hacked-Another-25m-customers-details-stolen.html[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="delta3074"] it was hacked twice actually, and if you don't call one of the largest thefts of User information in the history of computing 'trouble' then you need to get your head checked http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/147751/20110518/psn-playstation-network-sony-hack-again-second.htm and no that is not the false alarm from jun this year, this is last year before you start spouting more nonsense,loldelta3074

Actually the information may have been compromised, Sony did not know which information it was to be exact and assumed it was CC info, to which no reports of CC info being used has happened. Sony in turn offered free ID theft protection just in case.

You seem happy that the hack happened, you seem to want people's CC info stolen, probably to try and feel better about your inferior system.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Lol The military are idiots a whole 500 TFLOPS with 1700 Cell processors, in 2009 You could have grabbed 537 GTX 280's with CUDA and used them and would have been faster.....

In 2010 They could have used GTX 480's which you would only need 370 of them.

tormentos

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Lol The military are idiots a whole 500 TFLOPS with 1700 Cell processors, in 2009 You could have grabbed 537 GTX 280's with CUDA and used them and would have been faster.....

In 2010 They could have used GTX 480's which you would only need 370 of them.

04dcarraher

You are the same guy that called the military stupid (military tech teams to be exact, AKA people who know more than you do). It does not matter what you say now.

PS3 is REALLY powerful, this is why it can rival some PC games. TLOU rivals PC Witcher, Killzone 3 rivals PC Crysis, UC is the best looking game ever made (until TLOU comes out). No other console can do this, only PS3.

I can bet you if no one knew what system TLOU was coming out for, people would assume it was a PC game because of how great it looks. People on Youtube were saying it's not a PS3 game, only a PC one because it looks too good. That goes to show you how powerful the PS3 is.

You are the same guy that called the military stupid (military tech teams to be exact, AKA people who know more than you do). It does not matter what you say now.

PS3 is REALLY powerful, this is why it can rival some PC games. TLOU rivals PC Witcher, Killzone 3 rivals PC Crysis, UC is the best looking game ever made (until TLOU comes out). No other console can do this, only PS3.

I can bet you if no one knew what system TLOU was coming out for, people would assume it was a PC game because of how great it looks. People on Youtube were saying it's not a PS3 game, only a PC one because it looks too good. That goes to show you how powerful the PS3 is.

ShadowMoses900

Well, can't argue with that...

Reminds me of some PC games from 1996...

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You are the same guy that called the military stupid (military tech teams to be exact, AKA people who know more than you do). It does not matter what you say now.

PS3 is REALLY powerful, this is why it can rival some PC games. TLOU rivals PC Witcher, Killzone 3 rivals PC Crysis, UC is the best looking game ever made (until TLOU comes out). No other console can do this, only PS3.

I can bet you if no one knew what system TLOU was coming out for, people would assume it was a PC game because of how great it looks. People on Youtube were saying it's not a PS3 game, only a PC one because it looks too good. That goes to show you how powerful the PS3 is.

Rocker6

Well, can't argue with that...

Reminds me of some PC games from 1996...

Now your just being a fanboy again....

TLOU is the best looking game ever made. It will win best graphics of 2013. Everyone knows it, including you. But because it's not on your precious dying platform AKA PC Gaming, you don't want to admit it.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You are the same guy that called the military stupid (military tech teams to be exact, AKA people who know more than you do). It does not matter what you say now.

PS3 is REALLY powerful, this is why it can rival some PC games. TLOU rivals PC Witcher, Killzone 3 rivals PC Crysis, UC is the best looking game ever made (until TLOU comes out). No other console can do this, only PS3.

I can bet you if no one knew what system TLOU was coming out for, people would assume it was a PC game because of how great it looks. People on Youtube were saying it's not a PS3 game, only a PC one because it looks too good. That goes to show you how powerful the PS3 is.

ShadowMoses900

Well, can't argue with that...

Reminds me of some PC games from 1996...

Now your just being a fanboy again....

TLOU is the best looking game ever made. It will win best graphics of 2013. Everyone knows it, including you. But because it's not on your precious dying platform AKA PC Gaming, you don't want to admit it.

Screenshot'd for next year reference.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You are the same guy that called the military stupid (military tech teams to be exact, AKA people who know more than you do). It does not matter what you say now.

PS3 is REALLY powerful, this is why it can rival some PC games. TLOU rivals PC Witcher, Killzone 3 rivals PC Crysis, UC is the best looking game ever made (until TLOU comes out). No other console can do this, only PS3.

I can bet you if no one knew what system TLOU was coming out for, people would assume it was a PC game because of how great it looks. People on Youtube were saying it's not a PS3 game, only a PC one because it looks too good. That goes to show you how powerful the PS3 is.

ShadowMoses900

Well, can't argue with that...

Reminds me of some PC games from 1996...

Now your just being a fanboy again....

TLOU is the best looking game ever made. It will win best graphics of 2013. Everyone knows it, including you. But because it's not on your precious dying platform AKA PC Gaming, you don't want to admit it.

As I said, reminds me of some 1996 games, like Quake 1:

TLoU:

See?

They're comparable! :D

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You are the same guy that called the military stupid (military tech teams to be exact, AKA people who know more than you do). It does not matter what you say now.

PS3 is REALLY powerful, this is why it can rival some PC games. TLOU rivals PC Witcher, Killzone 3 rivals PC Crysis, UC is the best looking game ever made (until TLOU comes out). No other console can do this, only PS3.

I can bet you if no one knew what system TLOU was coming out for, people would assume it was a PC game because of how great it looks. People on Youtube were saying it's not a PS3 game, only a PC one because it looks too good. That goes to show you how powerful the PS3 is.

ShadowMoses900

Well, can't argue with that...

Reminds me of some PC games from 1996...

Now your just being a fanboy again....

TLOU is the best looking game ever made. It will win best graphics of 2013. Everyone knows it, including you. But because it's not on your precious dying platform AKA PC Gaming, you don't want to admit it.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Well, can't argue with that...

Reminds me of some PC games from 1996...

Rocker6

Now your just being a fanboy again....

TLOU is the best looking game ever made. It will win best graphics of 2013. Everyone knows it, including you. But because it's not on your precious dying platform AKA PC Gaming, you don't want to admit it.

As I said, reminds me of some 1996 games, like Quake 1:

TLoU:

See?

They're comparable! :D

No one falls for your fake fanboy doctored TLOU images, I proved them to be fake millions of times. You are not fooling anyone anymore.

Here are the REAL images: www.NaughtyDog.com/The Last of Us

IGN also has REAL images. Every other image is either doctored, fake, or unreliable.

Whether it supports 4K or not is a moot point as no one will be able to see it. I mean, who is going to go out and buy a TV with that resolution? The TV studios aren't going to be broadcasting in it, most of them are still getting their heads around and playing catch up with 1080i.

Who is going to go out and replace their Blu-Ray collection? Nope, another stumbling block. And most of the games will have to be upscaled to that as most studios are struggling with developemnt costs to the point where one failed game can mean the closure of a studio.

Personally having had both a PS3 and 360 this generation, my PS3 has mainly used as a Blu-Ray player in the light of the 360's better controller and online features. Would I buy both again if the next Xbox ships with a BR player? No chance, let alone buy a whole new entertainment suite to display the games only (i.e. no tv channels) at 4K.

and that is assuming they will hit that target. Surely everyone can remember the BS promises they came out with during the PS3's development and the infamous KZ2 CGI trailers. I mean this is Sony we are talking about - fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...

Whether it supports 4K or not is a moot point as no one will be able to see it. I mean, who is going to go out and buy a TV with that resolution? The TV studios aren't going to be broadcasting in it, most of them are still getting their heads around and playing catch up with 1080i.

Who is going to go out and replace their Blu-Ray collection? Nope, another stumbling block. And most of the games will have to be upscaled to that as most studios are struggling with developemnt costs to the point where one failed game can mean the closure of a studio.

Personally having had both a PS3 and 360 this generation, my PS3 has mainly used as a Blu-Ray player in the light of the 360's better controller and online features. Would I buy both again if the next Xbox ships with a BR player? No chance, let alone buy a whole new entertainment suite to display the games only (i.e. no tv channels) at 4K.

and that is assuming they will hit that target. Surely everyone can remember the BS promises they came out with during the PS3's development and the infamous KZ2 CGI trailers. I mean this is Sony we are talking about - fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Now your just being a fanboy again....

TLOU is the best looking game ever made. It will win best graphics of 2013. Everyone knows it, including you. But because it's not on your precious dying platform AKA PC Gaming, you don't want to admit it.

ShadowMoses900

As I said, reminds me of some 1996 games, like Quake 1:

TLoU:

See?

They're comparable! :D

No one falls for your fake fanboy doctored TLOU images, I proved them to be fake millions of times. You are not fooling anyone anymore.

Here are the REAL images: www.NaughtyDog.com/The Last of Us

IGN also has REAL images. Every other image is either doctored, fake, or unreliable.

Once again, I can't enter that damned site! :(

And I'm still waiting for that proof!