Greatness Returns

Sony will probably hit their 5M units goal before they even launch in Japan. That's damn impressive.
Oh, and I forgot .... They did it with no games.
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4.2 million Playstation 4's sold since December 28th.
3 million Xbox ones since January 5th.
To put that in perspective if the Playsation 3 (Or 360 vice versa) had a 45% lead in sales over the Xbox 360, that would put it at 112 million consoles compared to 80 million.
When the Playstation 4 launches in Japan expect the gap to widen further, considering japan is what allowed PS3 to tie in sales with the Xbox 360.
Sony is shaping up to possibly reach Wii sale numbers.
This is going to be one hell of a gen.
http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/01/sonys-ps4-leads-xbox-one/
No one with an actual life cares. This week by week sales comparison is pointless, anyone with half a brain knows this as anything can change this early on.
4.2 million Playstation 4's sold since December 28th.
3 million Xbox ones since January 5th.
To put that in perspective if the Playsation 3 (Or 360 vice versa) had a 45% lead in sales over the Xbox 360, that would put it at 112 million consoles compared to 80 million.
When the Playstation 4 launches in Japan expect the gap to widen further, considering japan is what allowed PS3 to tie in sales with the Xbox 360.
Sony is shaping up to possibly reach Wii sale numbers.
This is going to be one hell of a gen.
http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/01/sonys-ps4-leads-xbox-one/
No one with an actual life cares. This week by week sales comparison is or pointless, anyone with half a brain knows this as anything can change this early on.
Yet you are here commenting on it. PlayStation owns gaming again..suck it up or cry more.
4.2 million Playstation 4's sold since December 28th.
3 million Xbox ones since January 5th.
To put that in perspective if the Playsation 3 (Or 360 vice versa) had a 45% lead in sales over the Xbox 360, that would put it at 112 million consoles compared to 80 million.
When the Playstation 4 launches in Japan expect the gap to widen further, considering japan is what allowed PS3 to tie in sales with the Xbox 360.
Sony is shaping up to possibly reach Wii sale numbers.
This is going to be one hell of a gen.
http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/01/sonys-ps4-leads-xbox-one/
No one with an actual life cares. This week by week sales comparison is or pointless, anyone with half a brain knows this as anything can change this early on.
Yet you are here commenting on it. PlayStation owns gaming again..suck it up or cry more.
Yeah except I'm pretty much a PS cow so......... what am I supposed to be sucking up again?
4.2 million Playstation 4's sold since December 28th.
3 million Xbox ones since January 5th.
To put that in perspective if the Playsation 3 (Or 360 vice versa) had a 45% lead in sales over the Xbox 360, that would put it at 112 million consoles compared to 80 million.
When the Playstation 4 launches in Japan expect the gap to widen further, considering japan is what allowed PS3 to tie in sales with the Xbox 360.
Sony is shaping up to possibly reach Wii sale numbers.
This is going to be one hell of a gen.
http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/01/sonys-ps4-leads-xbox-one/
As i said before ..
Considering Europe was always a Sony fan ( majority of markets ) and considering PS4s price is affordable for smaller yet important markets ( mainly European like Poland ) with high video gaming activity , Europe is lost for M$ for sure. Mark my word on that.
If we add Japan , another great market ... 2 markets lost already for M$ from the get go. i predicted 33 to 45% more consoles sold for Sony than M$. Lets see if im right at the end of this gen.
I don't give 41% of a shit.
Ha! That was clever.
I'm clever.
Lol.
Yeah who cares... Look at last gen. PS3 got it's arse kicked at the start, but ended up winning. It's a long race.
4.2 million Playstation 4's sold since December 28th.
3 million Xbox ones since January 5th.
To put that in perspective if the Playsation 3 (Or 360 vice versa) had a 45% lead in sales over the Xbox 360, that would put it at 112 million consoles compared to 80 million.
When the Playstation 4 launches in Japan expect the gap to widen further, considering japan is what allowed PS3 to tie in sales with the Xbox 360.
Sony is shaping up to possibly reach Wii sale numbers.
This is going to be one hell of a gen.
http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/01/sonys-ps4-leads-xbox-one/
No one with an actual life cares. This week by week sales comparison is or pointless, anyone with half a brain knows this as anything can change this early on.
Yet you are here commenting on it. PlayStation owns gaming again..suck it up or cry more.
Yeah except I'm pretty much a PS cow so......... what am I supposed to be sucking up again?
Your own cock.
Edit: You already do nvm.
@mems_1224: A 40% gap, this early in the race, with severely constrained PS4 supply, while Sony has not released in their home market? C'mon, man.
inb4 blackace and his fellow crying lems.
but-but more country's available at launch
but 100 dollars cheaper
but launched 1 week in North America earlier
Somehow those excuses weren't valid for the PS3 that launched 1 year later, twice the price, and was available in only less than 13 country's at launch.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
can't wait to see lems try to spin this lol
inb4 blackace and his fellow crying lems.
but-but more country's available at launch
but 100 dollars cheaper
but launched 1 week in North America earlier
Somehow those excuses weren't valid for the PS3 that launched 1 year later, twice the price, and was available in only less than 13 country's at launch.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
can't wait to see lems try to spin this lol
Thier main spin: PS$ LAUNCHED IN 42 COUNTRIES!!111!!!
inb4 blackace and his fellow crying lems.
but-but more country's available at launch
but 100 dollars cheaper
but launched 1 week in North America earlier
Somehow those excuses weren't valid for the PS3 that launched 1 year later, twice the price, and was available in only less than 13 country's at launch.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
can't wait to see lems try to spin this lol
Thier main spin: PS$ LAUNCHED IN 42 COUNTRIES!!111!!!
I think they forgot that it hasn't launched in it's historically strongest country vs the xbox brand
My favourite lemming damage control is "bu bu but 13 countries!!! Just you wait until it's out worldwide"
Newsflash, losers: 75% of the people who want either console can get one. The only mass market left with neither is Japan and the Xbone hasn't got a chance there. Fucking lemmings. Look at them and laugh!
I have both an xbone and a ps4, and I can say that the xbone is better. Well, the controller is better. Otherwise, they're like the same goddamn thing.
My favourite lemming damage control is "bu bu but 13 countries!!! Just you wait until it's out worldwide"
Newsflash, losers: 75% of the people who want either console can get one. The only mass market left with neither is Japan and the Xbone hasn't got a chance there. Fucking lemmings. Look at them and laugh!
Nice.
Sad thing is the lems know the race is over. Blind fanboyism and stupidity won't let them admit it here on SW though.
I don't give 41% of a shit.
Ha! That was clever.
I'm clever.
Lol.
Yeah who cares... Look at last gen. PS3 got it's arse kicked at the start, but ended up winning. It's a long race.
You do know the Wii had the most sales right? You also know the PS3 DIDN'T pass the 360 by the launch of the 8th gen? How exactly did it win?
My favourite lemming damage control is "bu bu but 13 countries!!! Just you wait until it's out worldwide"
Newsflash, losers: 75% of the people who want either console can get one. The only mass market left with neither is Japan and the Xbone hasn't got a chance there. Fucking lemmings. Look at them and laugh!
Nice.
Sad thing is the lems know the race is over. Blind fanboyism and stupidity won't let them admit it here on SW though.
Kind of like cows know Ryse is the console graphics king at this very moment. You know, if we go by YOUR thread AND by the expert critics.
The math is strong in this one.
Also it's only the start, Sony ahd a tremendous start for sure but I wouldn't dismiss X1s 3 Million so easily. Both are highly impressive figures. The gap will probably shrink too in the coming years
It's 1,200,000 divided by 4,200,000 = 28.5%. Not sure why idiots are taking the % off of 3 million. That's not how you figure out the % difference when 4.2 million is 100%. The PS4 sold 28.5% more units. It's that simple. There's really no surprise with the cost, hype and being launched is 29 more countries. Now we have to wait for the games.
Yeah, demand is so high they are hard to find while Xbox Ones are all over the place, sitting on unsold inventory.
It's 1,200,000 divided by 4,200,000 = 28.5%. Not sure why idiots are taking the % off of 3 million. That's not how you figure out the % difference when 4.2 million is 100%. The PS4 sold 28.5% more units. It's that simple. There's really no surprise with the cost, hype and being launched is 29 more countries. Now we have to wait for the games.
Incorrect.
xbox would need to sell 40% more consoles to reach the ps4 target.
Actually they are both right if you look at 2 different perspectives, ie using ps4 as the base figure, or the xbox as the base.
Anyways, congrats cows....what now? how does this impact on you?
1) Sony is still a toxic company in terms of finances
2) Sony is still making a loss on every console sold
3) Sony is still suffering a game drought
Hope you enjoy playing sales reports lol
It's 1,200,000 divided by 4,200,000 = 28.5%. Not sure why idiots are taking the % off of 3 million. That's not how you figure out the % difference when 4.2 million is 100%. The PS4 sold 28.5% more units. It's that simple. There's really no surprise with the cost, hype and being launched is 29 more countries. Now we have to wait for the games.
Ps4 has sold 40% more than X1. X1 has sold 71% of what the Ps4 has.
If your stock goes up by 10% and then down by 10% it has dropped 1% in total.
Percentages are funny :)!
lol cows getting all excited over nothing. It sold only 1m odd more in the same period after launch.
The X1 is doing much better than I thought. The way the cows went on, I thought it would have sold twice as much by now.
The X1 is more expensive and had catastrophic pre-launch hype, probably the worst I can remember, and the PS4 managed only 1m more, with all that hype. And the cows think it's over.
Cows:
Before reveal 'it's over'
After reveal 'it's over'
Before launch 'it's over'
After launch 'it's over'
Aaaaaand… Nothing happened.
lol cows getting all excited over nothing. It sold only 1m odd more in the same period after launch.
The X1 is doing much better than I thought. The way the cows went on, I thought it would have sold twice as much by now.
The X1 is more expensive and had catastrophic pre-launch hype, probably the worst I can remember, and the PS4 managed only 1m more, with all that hype. And the cows think it's over.
Cows:
Before reveal 'it's over'
After reveal 'it's over'
Before launch 'it's over'
After launch 'it's over'
Aaaaaand… Nothing happened.
Lemmings talking ?!!!
How funny are you guys !!! You couldnt even win PS3 when it had 1 year less in the market , lost major exclusives , had astronomical price while Sony had multibillion losses !! How on earth when you failed to win vs such product under these circumstances you think you have a chance with PS4 ?!!!
Lemmings you forgeting all your craps , everything you said last gen pretty fast !! Even some months ago you made topics here in SW like " X360 won !!" ... rofl!!! Keep dreaming , your time is coming ... Japan release of PS4 that is.
lol cows getting all excited over nothing. It sold only 1m odd more in the same period after launch.
The X1 is doing much better than I thought. The way the cows went on, I thought it would have sold twice as much by now.
The X1 is more expensive and had catastrophic pre-launch hype, probably the worst I can remember, and the PS4 managed only 1m more, with all that hype. And the cows think it's over.
Cows:
Before reveal 'it's over'
After reveal 'it's over'
Before launch 'it's over'
After launch 'it's over'
Aaaaaand… Nothing happened.
Lemmings talking ?!!!
How funny are you guys !!! You couldnt even win PS3 when it had 1 year less in the market , lost major exclusives , had astronomical price while Sony had multibillion losses !! How on earth when you failed to win vs such product under these circumstances you think you have a chance with PS4 ?!!!
Lemmings you forgeting all your craps , everything you said last gen pretty fast !! Even some months ago you made topics here in SW like " X360 won !!" ... rofl!!! Keep dreaming , your time is coming ... Japan release of PS4 that is.
Lol like that was me and I speak for all lems.
If PS3 won, it was by a tiny amount and they lost more than they won last gen anyway and I said it would be about 50/50 from the beginning. I called last gen accurately.
Also I never said the X1 would 'win', but the race isn't over and I think it'll do well, much better than the cows make out.
4.2 million Playstation 4's sold since December 28th.
3 million Xbox ones since January 5th.
To put that in perspective if the Playsation 3 (Or 360 vice versa) had a 45% lead in sales over the Xbox 360, that would put it at 112 million consoles compared to 80 million.
When the Playstation 4 launches in Japan expect the gap to widen further, considering japan is what allowed PS3 to tie in sales with the Xbox 360.
Sony is shaping up to possibly reach Wii sale numbers.
This is going to be one hell of a gen.
http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/01/sonys-ps4-leads-xbox-one/
HA HA HA HA HA!!!
You should be a politician with that statistical slant. If person A sells 3, and person B sells 4; You can say "OMG! Person B sold 33% more than Person A!!!". But, in reality, Person B sold... one more.
Are you retarded, srs question.
Nothing is slanted, maybe to an Xbox One apologist it may seem that way but then again what would I expect?
PlayStation 4 has 680+ more gigaflops of power than the Xbox One (1.1tf vs 1.8). PlayStation 4 is 50% more power powerful than the Xbox One.
There is no "in reality" when both statements are correct. 1.2 million is a hell of alot of consoles, especially out of the gate.
Your ignorance makes me chuckle. What was posted, by definition, is "slanted statistics". Look up the definition, dummy.
4.2 million Playstation 4's sold since December 28th.
3 million Xbox ones since January 5th.
To put that in perspective if the Playsation 3 (Or 360 vice versa) had a 45% lead in sales over the Xbox 360, that would put it at 112 million consoles compared to 80 million.
When the Playstation 4 launches in Japan expect the gap to widen further, considering japan is what allowed PS3 to tie in sales with the Xbox 360.
Sony is shaping up to possibly reach Wii sale numbers.
This is going to be one hell of a gen.
http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/01/sonys-ps4-leads-xbox-one/
HA HA HA HA HA!!!
You should be a politician with that statistical slant. If person A sells 3, and person B sells 4; You can say "OMG! Person B sold 33% more than Person A!!!". But, in reality, Person B sold... one more.
in reality person b sold one more
in reality person b sold 33% more
both statements are true.
often i compare graphics cards with one another in order to find the best solution for a customer's budget. percentages are very important. the percentage increase of one card's performance or budget relative to another card is a completely viable way to look at such a problem.
its just the start of the gen anyways. im interested in the results around Q4 2014.
Did IQs drop sharply over the Christmas holiday?
I don't give a damn what you do for a living.
Slanted statistics are not "false", they are statistical conclusions presented in a way to over-emphasize a point of view. That is EXACTLY what the TC did. If you are going to respond to a post, at least have the courtesy of understanding what you are replying to...
lol cows getting all excited over nothing. It sold only 1m odd more in the same period after launch.
The X1 is doing much better than I thought. The way the cows went on, I thought it would have sold twice as much by now.
The X1 is more expensive and had catastrophic pre-launch hype, probably the worst I can remember, and the PS4 managed only 1m more, with all that hype. And the cows think it's over.
Cows:
Before reveal 'it's over'
After reveal 'it's over'
Before launch 'it's over'
After launch 'it's over'
Aaaaaand… Nothing happened.
Lemmings talking ?!!!
How funny are you guys !!! You couldnt even win PS3 when it had 1 year less in the market , lost major exclusives , had astronomical price while Sony had multibillion losses !! How on earth when you failed to win vs such product under these circumstances you think you have a chance with PS4 ?!!!
Lemmings you forgeting all your craps , everything you said last gen pretty fast !! Even some months ago you made topics here in SW like " X360 won !!" ... rofl!!! Keep dreaming , your time is coming ... Japan release of PS4 that is.
Lol like that was me and I speak for all lems.
If PS3 won, it was by a tiny amount and they lost more than they won last gen anyway and I said it would be about 50/50 from the beginning. I called last gen accurately.
Also I never said the X1 would 'win', but the race isn't over and I think it'll do well, much better than the cows make out.
I called last gen accurately also when after my own analysis i predicted that PS3 wont sell AT ALL in 99% of small European markets (im living in a small EU country as well ). I think i told you already what happened with PS3 in other post of mine.
Also , since noone knows me or remember what i wrote about PS3 ( or dont give a crap even ) on its release... I was one of the most harsh critics of it , period. For too many reasons to explain and one of the main reason why i never felt to buy a PS3 even if after 3 years its exclusive library became really solid.
So , we talking about Ps4 here not PS3. And again , if M$ couldnt win a really hurt Sony with a really upseting and full of problems product like PS3 while they had a whole year more in the market , theres no 1 in a million for M$ and X1 to win vs PS4 considering PS4 price is appealing to ALL small markets ( where monthly average salaries on these small markets are 300 to 600euros ) , is more powerful NOT on papers alone this time and nice games are coming on its first year in the market unlike PS3. 399$ is super appealing vs 699$ Ps3 was for those tiny markets ... This will make a difference in Europe this time , big time. Just wait and youll see if my analysis will be on point. EU is lost already , Japan will for sure as well ..
I thought i explained you what happened with PS3 before. Dont compare PS3 with PS4 , its a totally , 100% totally different story here.
YALL so stupid ps4 had sold 1.2 BEFORE the x1 Launched THAT MEANS SINCE BOTH HAVE BEEN OUT THEY HAVE SOLD EVENLY you MF will fail business if you keep thinking that way
Hope you are joking, because noone can be this stupid lol.
lol cows getting all excited over nothing. It sold only 1m odd more in the same period after launch.
The X1 is doing much better than I thought. The way the cows went on, I thought it would have sold twice as much by now.
The X1 is more expensive and had catastrophic pre-launch hype, probably the worst I can remember, and the PS4 managed only 1m more, with all that hype. And the cows think it's over.
Cows:
Before reveal 'it's over'
After reveal 'it's over'
Before launch 'it's over'
After launch 'it's over'
Aaaaaand… Nothing happened.
Lemmings talking ?!!!
How funny are you guys !!! You couldnt even win PS3 when it had 1 year less in the market , lost major exclusives , had astronomical price while Sony had multibillion losses !! How on earth when you failed to win vs such product under these circumstances you think you have a chance with PS4 ?!!!
Lemmings you forgeting all your craps , everything you said last gen pretty fast !! Even some months ago you made topics here in SW like " X360 won !!" ... rofl!!! Keep dreaming , your time is coming ... Japan release of PS4 that is.
Lol like that was me and I speak for all lems.
If PS3 won, it was by a tiny amount and they lost more than they won last gen anyway and I said it would be about 50/50 from the beginning. I called last gen accurately.
Also I never said the X1 would 'win', but the race isn't over and I think it'll do well, much better than the cows make out.
I called last gen accurately also when after my own analysis i saw PS3 didnt sell AT ALL in 99% of small European markets. I think i told you already what happened with PS3 in other post of mine.
Also , since noone knows me or remember what i wrote about PS3 ( dont give a crap even ) on its release... I was one of the most harsh critics of it , period. For too many reasons to explain and one of the main reason why i never felt to buy a PS3 even if after 3 years its exclusive library became really solid.
So , we talking about Ps4 here not PS3. And again , if M$ couldnt win a really hurt Sony with a really upseting and full of problems product like PS3 while they had a whole year more in the market , theres no 1 in a million for M$ and X1 to win vs PS4 considering PS4 price is appealing to ALL small markets ( where monthly average salaries on these small markets are 300 to 600euros ). 399$ is super appealing vs 699$ Ps3 was for those tiny markets.
I thought i explained you what happened with PS3 before. Dont compare PS3 with PS4 , its a totally , 100% totally different story here. Also what did i say to you a week or so ago ? That im predicting 33 to 45% more PS4 in the market than X1 ? Seems im preety much on the point here before even total numbers reveal.
You do know the Wii had the most sales right? You also know the PS3 DIDN'T pass the 360 by the launch of the 8th gen? How exactly did it win?
The wii will be surpass by march if not sooner,sony will launch soon in Japan which should increase those sales even more,and sony will be well over 5 million units by march as well,in fact if they can produce enough units i see them smashing their own predictions by 1 and half or 2 millions,that big the demand is.
And holding to the fact that the 8 gen started is silly,the xbox 360 and PS3 still selling decently,they are not quite dead,all the contrary the best console for games on 2013 was the PS3 by far.
Kind of like cows know Ryse is the console graphics king at this very moment. You know, if we go by YOUR thread AND by the expert critics.
That game is so enclosed that it makes Uncharted 3 seem open world,Ryse is build like a corridor shooter without the corridors,that sad and enclosed it is,and even so it could not hit 1080p,900p with frames lower than 30 most of the time.
The math is strong in this one.
Also it's only the start, Sony ahd a tremendous start for sure but I wouldn't dismiss X1s 3 Million so easily. Both are highly impressive figures. The gap will probably shrink too in the coming years
How is what i wonder..
This sales doesn't even include Japanese market if anything that gap should increase.
MS sales are the stronger in US,sadly they are still below sony sales in US as well,they don't have the sales in EU and even less in Japan,there is no way that gap shrinks.
It's 1,200,000 divided by 4,200,000 = 28.5%. Not sure why idiots are taking the % off of 3 million. That's not how you figure out the % difference when 4.2 million is 100%. The PS4 sold 28.5% more units. It's that simple. There's really no surprise with the cost, hype and being launched is 29 more countries. Now we have to wait for the games.
The xbox one is on shelf every where,is not selling as the PS4 is,the PS4 is sell out in 42 countries.
I told you is irrelevant,the only fact here is that sony make more units than MS,and they shipped to more countries,it took MS 10 days to sell 1 million in NA it took sony 24 hours.
YALL so stupid ps4 had sold 1.2 BEFORE the x1 Launched THAT MEANS SINCE BOTH HAVE BEEN OUT THEY HAVE SOLD EVENLY you MF will fail business if you keep thinking that way
The PS4 had 1 week advantage in NA,the xbox one had 1 week advantage in UK and 10 other countries,even with the 1 week advantage the PS4 out shipped and out sold the xbox one in UK making the PS4 the number 1 next gen console in UK,and taking the crown from MS there time was irrelevant,sony was supply constrained they sold 1 million in 24 hours in NA if they had 2 they would have probably sold it by December 1 just in NA.
The PS4 sold 2.1 million in 15 days and MS 2.0 in 18 days,so that means that MS was able to add 1 million more units,after that,while the PS4 was able to add 2.1 million more after that.
@StormyJoe: That's your own subjective opinion. However what I said is a fact, non-objective.
I know you probably don't know fact from fiction given your past posting history but maybe, just maybe you'll understand someday.
Now stop crying.
@StormyJoe: That's your own subjective opinion. However what I said is a fact, non-objective.
I know you probably don't know fact from fiction given your past posting history but maybe, just maybe you'll understand someday.
Now stop crying.
"Now stop crying"... LOL! You really need to get your head examined.
Stupidity is a poor excuse for Ignorance. You posted slanted statistics - the same tactic that a political pundit would use. Your comment was no different than Jay Carney boasting "300,000 people have signed up for the Affordable Healthcare Act", when there are 6.5 million uninsured. It's slanted statistics, and it's as bullshit in System Wars as it is bullshit in politics.
I expect at least a 2:1 ratio. Sony still needs to launch in Japan and actually stabilise demand and supply. MS have had a decent start considering how shitty their product is but the Xboners were always going to snap it up.
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