PS4 has 41% more consoles sold than Xbox One

What I did is what journalist and reporters typically do with headlines and articles. They round to the nearest fraction using the term third, half, fourth. If it can't be said because its not close enough too then they use the percent system and round to the nearest (X)0%.

28.5% is nearly 30%. The difference is only 1.5%. The difference between 41% and 40% is only 1%.... It is still a pretty big difference between xboxone and ps4. But the TC was still over 10% OFF and he should feel bad.

I don't even think we should be seriously comparing numbers between ps4 and xboxone until at least July. There is too much issues with stockings and unit production at the start.

I can agree with that. I definitely think they need to give it at least a year and then look at the numbers.

@blackace:

You are both wrong. I love the Xbox one and prefer it over the PS4 but the numbers don't lie. The PS4 had oversold it by 40%.

Learn to math people ( yes I used improper grammar on purpose ).

4.2million - 3million = 1.2 million

1.2 million / 3million = .4

.4 x 100% = 40%

28% of 3 million is 840,000 which would put Sony at 3.84 million. They are at 4.2.

30% of 3 million would be 900,000 leaving Sony at 3.9 million. Again they are at 4.2 million.

So 40% of 3 million would be 1.2 million.

3million plus 40% of 3million would be

Ta da. 4.2 million.

Sony is ahead 40% and selling at a rate of 1.4 times more.

Not really sure how 28 or 30% is getting into the mix other than you are just being fanboys and trolling or your math is really that bad.

Someone understands math!

There getting their numbers basing the PS4 as the base number.

BlackAce gave a wrongful example about a dollar.

This is what there doing, 40% of 4.2= 1.68. 4.2-1.68 is less than 3 which is correct.

However to calculate the percentage of the number you'd have the base number be The Xbox One.

40% of 3= 1.2

3+1.2=4.2

The PS4 has 40% more sales than the Xbox One.

Take it you don't have any links. To think I thought you were even slightly impartial.

Read the last line of this one link

Another calling it best looking console graphics link

USA today calling it "arguably the best looking console game" link

Eurogamer pretty much saying the same thing link

Gamefaqs stated it's the best looking console game to date link

Giantbomb saying it's the most graphically intense game link

and of course THE most important and the only one that counts on SWs right now........ SWs "official" verdict as stated by I_can't_haz epic fail

Enough reviews have called it the best looking game on consoles to date. Yeah this includes KZ;SF

@kingtito: I knew you'd come through :)

it took him a while because he was just pulling out of his ass,

so it was a mad scramble,

its weird that he thinks so highly of the game because in every one of those reviews,

they say the game is a bore,

even if that was in 4k and 3d I wouldn't wanna slog through that

If you're gonna troll, troll well at least...

The Eurogamer article doesn't say anything about Ryse being a graphics king. Other than the USA Today link and the N4G link you posted none of the sites you linked called it the graphics king. There are just as many or more sites that called Killzone Shadow Fall the best looking console game. Shows idiot lems like you that were yelling "critics have spoken!" were talking out of your asses. Nothing you posted is objective proof that Ryse looks better than KZSF.

As for System Wars Polls here is a bigger poll than mine including PC games and KZSF defecates on Ryse there:

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/best-graphics-in-video-games-2013-31003191/?page=1

If you're gonna use polls where lems hijacked with their alt accounts as proof you might as well pull links from a horse's ass because you'll get better and more trustworthy results there. There are many other polls with KZSF winning other than the one I just posted so there goes your "proof".

The math being used by this kid is killing me!! You pulling numbers out of your ass! 41% of 4.2 million does not equal 1.2 million!!!

@urbansys: doesn't were that way. You take 40% of Xbox One sales.

@killatwill15: didn't say he wasn't a dumbass.

@I_can_haz: do you ever stop owning lemmings?

@kingtito: ouch, your bias is showing just read through all if your links, what a bias little shit head troll you are! :)

Lol that's pretty embarrassing, one even mentions KZ but in no way says Ryse is graphically better. Tito did you even read your own links?

Do you burn money for fun?

I post while working kid and sometimes I post from home. Besides why would I need to post any faster for you cows?

We're talking about graphics cow not gameplay. Graphics has nothing to do with a game being good or not. Right now Ryse is the best looking console game, deal with it son. I know it's hard for you cows to get over the graphics king NOT being on a PS console but try. You'll feel much better about yourself.

No kid, this thread is the only one that matters. You said it yourself "time for system wars to settle it" and they did cry more

Don't back peddle after your epic fail of a thread backfired son. Face it, Ryse is the best looking console game. Don't worry it'll be ok son. You'll get over it soon enough. Just don't make anymore poll threads bwhahahahahaha

pot calling the kettle black?

the only one who resorts to childishness is you,

so don't befuddle your feeble mind with self reverence,

the weight of your inanity will bear down on your conscience,

for it is the truth........

so suck my dick,

and go ahead and stick with ryse,

might as well be a cgi movie,

I've seen more player interaction with a pre built train set.

hopefully you read this after you get back from your shift at mcdonalds,

reading this wont be as mentally tasking as writing your rebuttal.....

so don't bother, you got pay,

I mean play forza again

Hate to burst your bubble but that is not even close to how you look at it.

First your statement is, the PS4 sold 41% more than the xbox one. Not the other way around.

On top of that, your math is wrong to the point that you are trying to conveniently drop 1% to make it look right. When you do that in math, you are always wrong.

Since you don't want to believe anything or anyone, here is a link to a page on how to calculate such "difficult" figures...

Little spoiler for you.... Ps4 sold 33.33% more

http://www.mathsisfun.com/percentage-difference.html

The percentage difference is:

The difference between two values divided by the average of the two values. Shown as a percentage.

Difference means to subtract one value from another:

Example: Alex sold 15 tickets, and Sam sold 25

The difference between 25 and 15 is: 25-15 = 10

Average is the value half-way between:

Example continued

The average of 25 and 15 is: (25+15)/2 = 40/2 = 20

And then the difference as a Percentage of the average:

Example continued

Difference is 25-15 = 10

Average is (25+15)/2 = 20

10 as a percentage of 20 is:

The percentage difference between 25 and 15 is 50%

Here is the answer, in one line:

If the facts are true, then Sony has effectively won this console generation. The much maligned Boners have long been expected to perform badly judging by the amount of hate Microsoft received before releasing it. Now that I come to think back about it, Microsoft practically shot themselves in the foot back then and put the Boner in such a bad light that it turned the tide against them. It's a fall from grace, considering the success of the 360. Once Japan is done, all MS will have left is dust, and memories of their success.

@urbansys

I'm work with accounting systems (General Ledger, Investment Accounting, Fixed Assets, Payable and Receivable, Cash Disbursements, etc) for a living and you're doing it wrong. I asked three different CPAs and they all came to the same 40% difference. If you buy a stock today (this is the same concept) for $10 and you sell the stock tomorrow for $14, you've booked a 40% gain; (14 - 10) / 10 = 40%, not a 28.5% gain, (14 - 10) / 14.

Here's a handy calculator for you to calculate sales differences: http://retail.about.com/library/bl_percent_increase.htm

Gee, who do you think is right; a dozen posters on these threads and three Certified Public Accountants or you and Blackace? Hmmm...

You girls make it all to hard, ever heard of using the internet ?

Type in Google : " 40 % of 3000000 = " and there is your answer right at the top !

@BlessedChill: Powerful Shmowerful.

Play your console for games not for fricken specs.

Ryse is a piece of sh** enclosed game is all smokes and mirror and not eve that way it could stay at 1080p,is 900p with lower than 30 FPS,is a joke the only thing it has going for it is characters models if that game was on PS4 it would run better and look better period just like any other game would the PS4 is stronger period,hold tied to that crappy game to pretend the xbox one is powerful.

Games like Titanfall can't even hit 900p,BF4,Ghost the xbox one has problems with demanding engines like FPS.

I wonder what your excuse will be 3 years down the road when the xbox one still failing to do 1080p.

Any one who chose Ryse as graphics king over Killzone SF is a fu**ing moron,it doesn't take much to see which is doing more at higher resolution and faster frames.

The fact that you are talking about graphics on a sales thread says it all Kingtroll.

I am a mortgage broker who works with many CPA's myself. I also aced in marketing and statics while in college.

The formula you used works well for gains in sales with the same product. However we are trying to figure out the percentage difference between 2 different products.

Break down the formal you just used. 14-10 makes the obvious but why would you dived by 10? There is your problem right there.

"That said, if you really want a taste of what we can expect from the next generation of consoles, Ryse towers over the rest." <------ the ONLY line you really needed to read. Guess you didn't see it. Yes this includes KZSF

Lol that's not childish son? Sounds like something a 12 year old would say.

What's wrong with working at McDonalds? Didn't you just say you're not the one with "childishness" behavior? All you did in that post was insult me. You know, that "childishness" you claim NOT to be doing.

Why you so mad son? I bet if you were in front of me right now you'd be trying to slap me and scratch my eyes out. Calm down kid, it's only the SWs.

@bforrester420: lol, owned

You don't take the % from 3 million. You take it from the highest amount (or the WHOLE) dumbasses. The difference is 1.2 million between XB1 and PS4. You divide the difference from the WHOLE which is 4.2 million. 1,200,000 / 4,200,.000 is 28.5% Case closed. 4.2 million is 100%, 3 million is 71.5% of 4.2 million. 4.2 million - 3 million is 1.2 million = 28.5. 28.5% + 71.5% = 100%. Go back to school kiddies.

@blackace:

Well, I think you would use percent increase, correct?

(4.2-3)/3 = .4, or 40% increase.

or

(4.2-3)/40 = 30% decrease from PS4 to XB1.

Either way, it's still slanted statistics - the numbers are too small to have meaningful values for the percentages. It's like saying "I sold 2 apples, and you sold 1. So, I sold 50% more". While mathematically true, it's really just one apple more.

1.2 million = 0.4% of the consoles sold last gen.

No kidding. These kids don't know how to do math. 41% of 4.2 million = 1,722,000.

1,200,000 of 4.2 million is 28.5%. All day. If XB1 sold 28.5 % more units it would equal 4.2 million. If they sold 41% more units like these idiots are saying the XB1 would sell 4,722,000 million. They are taking the % off the wrong amount. I knew cows were stupid, but wow. They must now have graduated from High School or something.

You divide by 10 because, in my example, your starting value is 10 (as in $10 purchase price of a stock).

Thank God you didn't work on my mortgage. My 2.75% 15-year fixed would have been a 5% by the time I signed the paperwork...

Very mature response... by the way when rates were lower at the end of 2012, I was doing 15 year fixed at 2.5% for my clients. I have a 30 year fixed on one of my investment properties at a flat 3%.

You proved my point exactly. 10 dollars was the starting point of THAT stock. We are not trying to figure out the increase in a single product or stock. We are trying to figure out the difference is volume sold between TWO different products. There for your formula used does not work.

You must first figure out the simple difference then get the avg which you convert to a percentage.... This is basic math that is done in high school.

who said anything about being kids to begin with?

he who smelt it dealt it,

and your shit stinks brah.

so obviously you haven't seen titties yet,

or you wouldn't have brought up age the way you did,

heres a tip,

broaden your lexicon,

quit mcdonalds,

and don't belittle others to compensate your own inadequacy,

because it is sticking out like a sore thumb....

although,

your mental incompetency is not surprising,

any one who believes in the cloud,

still believes in santa claus,

your mother bought you that xbox one brah,

you sat on some random guy for nothing

You act like a kid so I'm going to call you one, kid. I know truth hurts.

Nope sure haven't. Can't wait for the day I do, oh what a glorious day it'll be.

Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Hmmm hypocrite much son?

You sure you're talking about me son? I don't remember bringing up the cloud. Hmmm but I do believe in Santa Clause. I mean who else could have brought me my awesome new toys I got this year?

No son, YOUR mom bought me the XOne. Tell her thanks.

You still sound mad. Why? Oh btw I quit McDs soon as you said I should. BIIIIIGGGGGG weight lifted off my shoulders, thanks.

thanks for taking my advice son,

mickey dee wasn't going to end up good for you anyways,

and your grandma loves you that's why she bought you the xbox one,

she took notice how you used to touch yourself in public,

so she thought why not buy you a system so you can do it without being labeled a sex offender.

she cant use the internet or phone,

on account of her getting food poisoning at mcdonalds,

but I will let her know how you fell.

and tell your mother I love her,

I cant blame her chlamydia for making you the way you are,

but she did the best she could despite that missing leg....

be sure to kiss her on the cheek for me,

id say lips but you might catch something

sincerely.....

your father

3====D

Make up your mind son, grandma or mom bought my XOne.

Got one question for you kid.

You're so easily shook kid. So easy to wind you up and watch you dance and yeah you're dancing for me alright.

All this math is just confusing everyone. It's quite simple. In order for Xbone to reach PS4 in sales it has to sell 1.2 million more consoles. 1.2 million is 40% of 3 million. So they have to sell 40% more of what they've already sold to reach PS4 sales. Now the 28.5% figure isn't wrong, it's just coming from a different point of view. That figure is how big a lead the PS4 has based on their sales. So nobody is a dumbass or wrong. You're all just looking at it differently.

LMAO epic

kingtito = OWNED

No kid, THIS is ownage epic fail

Wow, a pretty great start for both companies. Glad to see - all of that "console gaming is dead" crap was getting old. I hope they stay close together as to foster more and more competition.

(new-old)/old, simple as that folks

(4.2-3)/3.

Anyone know what 100 percent more than 3 is? 6

Anyone know what 50 percent more than 3 is? 4.5

So why is this hard?

They are both selling like hotcakes which is good news for gamers :D if sony gets a bit of a lead then so be it as the X1 is selling great regardless

Is the Xflop still selling great. Lots stores full of unsold Xbones right now. The demand for it is definitely lower already while PS4 is still selling out each restock extremely fast. I say PS4 has has 3-4 million lead by time inFAMOUS and Titanfall release.

@kingtito said:

@killatwill15 said:

@kingtito said:

@killatwill15 said:

@kingtito said:

@killatwill15 said:

@kingtito said:

@killatwill15 said:

@BlessedChill said:

@kingtito: I knew you'd come through :)

it took him a while because he was just pulling out of his ass,

so it was a mad scramble,

its weird that he thinks so highly of the game because in every one of those reviews,

they say the game is a bore,

even if that was in 4k and 3d I wouldn't wanna slog through that

I post while working kid and sometimes I post from home. Besides why would I need to post any faster for you cows?

We're talking about graphics cow not gameplay. Graphics has nothing to do with a game being good or not. Right now Ryse is the best looking console game, deal with it son. I know it's hard for you cows to get over the graphics king NOT being on a PS console but try. You'll feel much better about yourself.

pot calling the kettle black?

the only one who resorts to childishness is you,

so don't befuddle your feeble mind with self reverence,

the weight of your inanity will bear down on your conscience,

for it is the truth........

so suck my dick,

and go ahead and stick with ryse,

might as well be a cgi movie,

I've seen more player interaction with a pre built train set.

hopefully you read this after you get back from your shift at mcdonalds,

reading this wont be as mentally tasking as writing your rebuttal.....

so don't bother, you got pay,

I mean play forza again

Lol that's not childish son? Sounds like something a 12 year old would say.

What's wrong with working at McDonalds? Didn't you just say you're not the one with "childishness" behavior? All you did in that post was insult me. You know, that "childishness" you claim NOT to be doing.

Why you so mad son? I bet if you were in front of me right now you'd be trying to slap me and scratch my eyes out. Calm down kid, it's only the SWs.

who said anything about being kids to begin with?

he who smelt it dealt it,

and your shit stinks brah.

so obviously you haven't seen titties yet,

or you wouldn't have brought up age the way you did,

heres a tip,

broaden your lexicon,

quit mcdonalds,

and don't belittle others to compensate your own inadequacy,

because it is sticking out like a sore thumb....

although,

your mental incompetency is not surprising,

any one who believes in the cloud,

still believes in santa claus,

your mother bought you that xbox one brah,

you sat on some random guy for nothing

You act like a kid so I'm going to call you one, kid. I know truth hurts.

Nope sure haven't. Can't wait for the day I do, oh what a glorious day it'll be.

Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Hmmm hypocrite much son?

You sure you're talking about me son? I don't remember bringing up the cloud. Hmmm but I do believe in Santa Clause. I mean who else could have brought me my awesome new toys I got this year?

No son, YOUR mom bought me the XOne. Tell her thanks.

You still sound mad. Why? Oh btw I quit McDs soon as you said I should. BIIIIIGGGGGG weight lifted off my shoulders, thanks.

thanks for taking my advice son,

mickey dee wasn't going to end up good for you anyways,

and your grandma loves you that's why she bought you the xbox one,

she took notice how you used to touch yourself in public,

so she thought why not buy you a system so you can do it without being labeled a sex offender.

she cant use the internet or phone,

on account of her getting food poisoning at mcdonalds,

but I will let her know how you fell.

and tell your mother I love her,

I cant blame her chlamydia for making you the way you are,

but she did the best she could despite that missing leg....

be sure to kiss her on the cheek for me,

id say lips but you might catch something

sincerely.....

your father

3====D

Make up your mind son, grandma or mom bought my XOne.

Got one question for you kid.

You're so easily shook kid. So easy to wind you up and watch you dance and yeah you're dancing for me alright.

I don't think you can dance at all,

but you do look like you shake a lot in this pic

@kingtito: @killatwill15: enough you two. Let's not stoop to attacking one another.

2 pages of it and you finally step in?

was this just amusing to you until you felt the need to interject?

he is offline, da fuq? where did you learn to moderate at,

twitch?

EDIT:

I didn't know you became a mod until today,

you ascended to super saiyan levels now brah,

congrats,

but on the real, only you can stop stuff like this before it starts,

like smokey the bear bro

@killatwill15: I'd prefer to do it this way rather than the alternative. Please keep the conversation civil.

If only Tim Doggermania shows his face here, we could really get the retard conventions (ems in sales threads) kicking!

PS4 sold 41% more than Xbone

Therefore:

Xbone sold approx 30% less than the PS4

Fucking hell guys

Corrected your blatant trolling or insanity !