PS4 has 41% more consoles sold than Xbox One

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#201  Edited By PS4TrumpsXbox1
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Actually I think the 41 percent is more accurate than 28 percent......

Here is my explanation (hopefully this makes sense to you):

MS sold 3 million units right? And half of 3 million is 1.5 million which would be 50 percent if Sony has sold 1.5 million more units (but they didn't they sold 1.2 million more) . This part everyone can agree with im sure (pretty simple).

So 1.5 million= 50 percent, Lets divide 1.5 million by 4. 1.5m/ 4= 375000. And since 375000 is a quarter of 1.5 million lets divide 50 percent into quarters which is 12.5 percent, so 375000= 12.5 percent

So lets look at this further and add 375000+375000+375000=1125000. Now remember each 375000 accounts for 12.5 percent (12.5 percent x 3= 37.5 percent)

Or you could divide 375000 into 1.5 million which equals 3.2 (remember each 375000 equals 12.5 percent which there are 3 of and 0.2 remaining)

3 x 12.5= 37.5 percent

0.2 x 12.5 = 2.5 percent

37.5 +2.5= 40 percent

So there is your answer Sony has sold 40 percent more units than MS (thread creator was only off by 1). I think someone owes TC an apology lol (Isn't math fun?)

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#202 Murderstyle75
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I went into Sams Club earlier and saw a huge stack of Xbox One systems. No PS4. It was the same thing yesterday at Gamestop and Best Buy. Its rather sad that I can't even find a PS4 but Xbox just sits there next to the Wii U.

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@WadeFan: Yes sir. Just having a little fun is all.

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@urbansys

I'm work with accounting systems (General Ledger, Investment Accounting, Fixed Assets, Payable and Receivable, Cash Disbursements, etc) for a living and you're doing it wrong. I asked three different CPAs and they all came to the same 40% difference. If you buy a stock today (this is the same concept) for $10 and you sell the stock tomorrow for $14, you've booked a 40% gain; (14 - 10) / 10 = 40%, not a 28.5% gain, (14 - 10) / 14.

Here's a handy calculator for you to calculate sales differences: http://retail.about.com/library/bl_percent_increase.htm

Gee, who do you think is right; a dozen posters on these threads and three Certified Public Accountants or you and Blackace? Hmmm...

We're not talking about stocks. We're not talking about gains. My math is perfectly correct.

Also, I used your sales calculator and it came out 29%. lol!!

Previous Sales Amount? 4200000

Current Sales Amount? 3000000

Percentage Increase/Decrease = -29%

Even your calculator says I'm right. You need to be fire if you work for Accounting Systems and can't do %'s.

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#205  Edited By I_can_haz
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blackace still showing how much of a moron he is at math. Dude, you should never have skipped elementary school math class.

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#206  Edited By Jakandsigz
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Percent does not matter until the numbers are bigger. if they both sold over 20 mill then that would matter.

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#207  Edited By blackace
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@incuensuocha said:

All this math is just confusing everyone. It's quite simple. In order for Xbone to reach PS4 in sales it has to sell 1.2 million more consoles. 1.2 million is 40% of 3 million. So they have to sell 40% more of what they've already sold to reach PS4 sales. Now the 28.5% figure isn't wrong, it's just coming from a different point of view. That figure is how big a lead the PS4 has based on their sales. So nobody is a dumbass or wrong. You're all just looking at it differently.

True, but when you're doing %'s,. the largest amount you are taking the difference from is the whole. I guess these kiddies on here have never done Pie Chart percentages in their lives. It's very simple math.

If the whole pie is 4,200,000 (100%) and you take away a slice of 3,000,000 (71.5%), you're left with small slice of 1,200,000 (28.5%). It doesn't get much easier then that. I knew there were uneducated kids on here, but I didn't realize it was this bad.

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blackace still showing how much of a moron he is at math. Dude, you should never have skipped elementary school math class.

I know more about math then you ever will. I bet you don't even know what Trigonometry or Calculus is. LOL!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigonometry

I went to college little boy in a man's body. lmao!! Unlike the kiddies on this forum.

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#208  Edited By PS4TrumpsXbox1
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@blackace said:

@bforrester420 said:

@urbansys

I'm work with accounting systems (General Ledger, Investment Accounting, Fixed Assets, Payable and Receivable, Cash Disbursements, etc) for a living and you're doing it wrong. I asked three different CPAs and they all came to the same 40% difference. If you buy a stock today (this is the same concept) for $10 and you sell the stock tomorrow for $14, you've booked a 40% gain; (14 - 10) / 10 = 40%, not a 28.5% gain, (14 - 10) / 14.

Here's a handy calculator for you to calculate sales differences: http://retail.about.com/library/bl_percent_increase.htm

Gee, who do you think is right; a dozen posters on these threads and three Certified Public Accountants or you and Blackace? Hmmm...

We're not talking about stocks. We're not talking about gains. My math is perfectly correct.

Also, I used your sales calculator and it came out 29%. lol!!

Previous Sales Amount? 4200000

Current Sales Amount? 3000000

Percentage Increase/Decrease = -29%

Even your calculator says I'm right. You need to be fire if you work for Accounting Systems and can't do %'s.

Uh read my post ( i believe its the first post on this page), the correct answer is 40 percent LOL

EDIT:

I thought I would provide the post: (my math is 100 percent correct)

Actually I think the 41 percent is more accurate than 28 percent......

Here is my explanation (hopefully this makes sense to you):

MS sold 3 million units right? And half of 3 million is 1.5 million which would be 50 percent if Sony has sold 1.5 million more units (but they didn't they sold 1.2 million more) . This part everyone can agree with im sure (pretty simple).

So 1.5 million= 50 percent, Lets divide 1.5 million by 4. 1.5m/ 4= 375000. And since 375000 is a quarter of 1.5 million lets divide 50 percent into quarters which is 12.5 percent, so 375000= 12.5 percent

So lets look at this further and add 375000+375000+375000=1125000. Now remember each 375000 accounts for 12.5 percent (12.5 percent x 3= 37.5 percent)

Or you could divide 375000 into 1.5 million which equals 3.2 (remember each 375000 equals 12.5 percent which there are 3 of and 0.2 remaining)

3 x 12.5= 37.5 percent

0.2 x 12.5 = 2.5 percent

37.5 +2.5= 40 percent

So there is your answer Sony has sold 40 percent more units than MS (thread creator was only off by 1). I think someone owes TC an apology lol (Isn't math fun?)

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#209  Edited By PS4TrumpsXbox1
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@blackace said:

@incuensuocha said:

All this math is just confusing everyone. It's quite simple. In order for Xbone to reach PS4 in sales it has to sell 1.2 million more consoles. 1.2 million is 40% of 3 million. So they have to sell 40% more of what they've already sold to reach PS4 sales. Now the 28.5% figure isn't wrong, it's just coming from a different point of view. That figure is how big a lead the PS4 has based on their sales. So nobody is a dumbass or wrong. You're all just looking at it differently.

True, but when you're doing %'s,. the largest amount you are taking the difference from is the whole. I guess these kiddies on here have never done Pie Chart percentages in their lives. It's very simple math.

If the whole pie is 4,200,000 (100%) and you take away a slice of 3,000,000 (71.5%), you're left with small slice of 1,200,000 (28.5%). It doesn't get much easier then that. I knew there were uneducated kids on here, but I didn't realize it was this bad.

I cant even begin to state how ironic your post is especially with your last sentence

Edit:

By the way your 28.5 percent number is the answer to a question of what percent MS has sold less than PS4, not the percent of what PS4 sold more

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#210  Edited By Floppy_Jim
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@Floppy_Jim said:

PS4 sold 41% more than Xbone

Therefore:

Xbone sold approx 30% less than the PS4

Fucking hell guys

IT'S REALLY FUCKING SIMPLE, SEE THIS GUY GETS IT

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#211  Edited By blackace
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@PS4TrumpsXbox1 said:

@blackace said:

@incuensuocha said:

All this math is just confusing everyone. It's quite simple. In order for Xbone to reach PS4 in sales it has to sell 1.2 million more consoles. 1.2 million is 40% of 3 million. So they have to sell 40% more of what they've already sold to reach PS4 sales. Now the 28.5% figure isn't wrong, it's just coming from a different point of view. That figure is how big a lead the PS4 has based on their sales. So nobody is a dumbass or wrong. You're all just looking at it differently.

True, but when you're doing %'s,. the largest amount you are taking the difference from is the whole. I guess these kiddies on here have never done Pie Chart percentages in their lives. It's very simple math.

If the whole pie is 4,200,000 (100%) and you take away a slice of 3,000,000 (71.5%), you're left with small slice of 1,200,000 (28.5%). It doesn't get much easier then that. I knew there were uneducated kids on here, but I didn't realize it was this bad.

I cant even begin to state how ironic your post is especially with your last sentence

Edit:

By the way your 28.5 percent number is the answer to a question of what percent MS has sold less than PS4, not the percent of what PS4 sold more

So I'm right. Thanks.

Whoever created the thread should just stay away from %'s all together. lol!!

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#212 PS4TrumpsXbox1
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@Floppy_Jim said:

@Floppy_Jim said:

PS4 sold 41% more than Xbone

Therefore:

Xbone sold approx 30% less than the PS4

Fucking hell guys

IT'S REALLY FUCKING SIMPLE, SEE THIS GUY GETS IT

Yea its actually kind of funny that a lot of people that posted on this thread dont understand that the 28.5 percent number is the percent Xbone has sold less than PS4 and that the 40 percent number pertains to the amount PS4 sold more than Xbone. Isn't this the type of math that a jr high school student would learn in school???

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#213  Edited By PS4TrumpsXbox1
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@blackace said:

@PS4TrumpsXbox1 said:

@blackace said:

@incuensuocha said:

All this math is just confusing everyone. It's quite simple. In order for Xbone to reach PS4 in sales it has to sell 1.2 million more consoles. 1.2 million is 40% of 3 million. So they have to sell 40% more of what they've already sold to reach PS4 sales. Now the 28.5% figure isn't wrong, it's just coming from a different point of view. That figure is how big a lead the PS4 has based on their sales. So nobody is a dumbass or wrong. You're all just looking at it differently.

True, but when you're doing %'s,. the largest amount you are taking the difference from is the whole. I guess these kiddies on here have never done Pie Chart percentages in their lives. It's very simple math.

If the whole pie is 4,200,000 (100%) and you take away a slice of 3,000,000 (71.5%), you're left with small slice of 1,200,000 (28.5%). It doesn't get much easier then that. I knew there were uneducated kids on here, but I didn't realize it was this bad.

I cant even begin to state how ironic your post is especially with your last sentence

Edit:

By the way your 28.5 percent number is the answer to a question of what percent MS has sold less than PS4, not the percent of what PS4 sold more

So I'm right. Thanks.

Whoever created the thread should just stay away from %'s all together. lol!!

Your right???? You were stating the 28 percent number is amount PS4 sold more than xbone (that number is 40 percent). It is obvious you were wrong. THe funny part of you being wrong is trying to claim ownage to some other guy by stating you went to college and taking trignometry and calculus classes and posting a link to wikipedia on trignometry. This type of math is very basic in comparison, I would hate to see you try to figure out a trig or calculus problem LOL

Gotta love self ownage

Edit:

Before you damage control any further, look at a message you posted on page 2:

It's 1,200,000 divided by 4,200,000 = 28.5%. Not sure why idiots are taking the % off of 3 million. That's not how you figure out the % difference when 4.2 million is 100%. The PS4 sold 28.5% more units. It's that simple. There's really no surprise with the cost, hype and being launched is 29 more countries. Now we have to wait for the games.

The part of that post I want you to focus in on is your sentence: THE PS4 SOLD 28.5% MORE UNITS. These are words you typed and posted.......

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#214 blackace
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@PS4TrumpsXbox1 said:

@blackace said:

@PS4TrumpsXbox1 said:

@blackace said:

@incuensuocha said:

All this math is just confusing everyone. It's quite simple. In order for Xbone to reach PS4 in sales it has to sell 1.2 million more consoles. 1.2 million is 40% of 3 million. So they have to sell 40% more of what they've already sold to reach PS4 sales. Now the 28.5% figure isn't wrong, it's just coming from a different point of view. That figure is how big a lead the PS4 has based on their sales. So nobody is a dumbass or wrong. You're all just looking at it differently.

True, but when you're doing %'s,. the largest amount you are taking the difference from is the whole. I guess these kiddies on here have never done Pie Chart percentages in their lives. It's very simple math.

If the whole pie is 4,200,000 (100%) and you take away a slice of 3,000,000 (71.5%), you're left with small slice of 1,200,000 (28.5%). It doesn't get much easier then that. I knew there were uneducated kids on here, but I didn't realize it was this bad.

I cant even begin to state how ironic your post is especially with your last sentence

Edit:

By the way your 28.5 percent number is the answer to a question of what percent MS has sold less than PS4, not the percent of what PS4 sold more

So I'm right. Thanks.

Whoever created the thread should just stay away from %'s all together. lol!!

Your right???? You were stating the 28 percent number is amount PS4 sold more than xbone (that number is 40 percent). It is obvious you were wrong. THe funny part of you being wrong is trying to claim ownage to some other guy by stating you went to college and taking trignometry and calculus classes and posting a link to wikipedia on trignometry. This type of math is very basic in comparison, I would hate to see you try to figure out a trig or calculus problem LOL

Gotta love self ownage

No, I'm right. Yes, it's so basic you can't get it right. lol!! The XB1 needs to sell 1,200,000 more which is 28.5%. You don't take the % off of the 3,000,000. The % is always off the largest amount. I did great in Trig. The only reason you idiots are taking it off the 3,000,000 is it makes seem like it's a larger % when it isn't. So get lost troll.

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#215  Edited By Floppy_Jim
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@PS4TrumpsXbox1 said:

@Floppy_Jim said:

@Floppy_Jim said:

PS4 sold 41% more than Xbone

Therefore:

Xbone sold approx 30% less than the PS4

Fucking hell guys

IT'S REALLY FUCKING SIMPLE, SEE THIS GUY GETS IT

Yea its actually kind of funny that a lot of people that posted on this thread dont understand that the 28.5 percent number is the percent Xbone has sold less than PS4 and that the 40 percent number pertains to the amount PS4 sold more than Xbone. Isn't this the type of math that a jr high school student would learn in school???

Yep. I really couldn't explain it any clearer than that but Mr Ace still doesn't get it...

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#216  Edited By PS4TrumpsXbox1
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@blackace said:

@PS4TrumpsXbox1 said:

@blackace said:

@PS4TrumpsXbox1 said:

@blackace said:

@incuensuocha said:

All this math is just confusing everyone. It's quite simple. In order for Xbone to reach PS4 in sales it has to sell 1.2 million more consoles. 1.2 million is 40% of 3 million. So they have to sell 40% more of what they've already sold to reach PS4 sales. Now the 28.5% figure isn't wrong, it's just coming from a different point of view. That figure is how big a lead the PS4 has based on their sales. So nobody is a dumbass or wrong. You're all just looking at it differently.

True, but when you're doing %'s,. the largest amount you are taking the difference from is the whole. I guess these kiddies on here have never done Pie Chart percentages in their lives. It's very simple math.

If the whole pie is 4,200,000 (100%) and you take away a slice of 3,000,000 (71.5%), you're left with small slice of 1,200,000 (28.5%). It doesn't get much easier then that. I knew there were uneducated kids on here, but I didn't realize it was this bad.

I cant even begin to state how ironic your post is especially with your last sentence

Edit:

By the way your 28.5 percent number is the answer to a question of what percent MS has sold less than PS4, not the percent of what PS4 sold more

So I'm right. Thanks.

Whoever created the thread should just stay away from %'s all together. lol!!

Your right???? You were stating the 28 percent number is amount PS4 sold more than xbone (that number is 40 percent). It is obvious you were wrong. THe funny part of you being wrong is trying to claim ownage to some other guy by stating you went to college and taking trignometry and calculus classes and posting a link to wikipedia on trignometry. This type of math is very basic in comparison, I would hate to see you try to figure out a trig or calculus problem LOL

Gotta love self ownage

No, I'm right. Yes, it's so basic you can't get it right. lol!! The XB1 needs to sell 1,200,000 more which is 28.5%. You don't take the % off of the 3,000,000. The % is always off the largest amount. I did great in Trig. The only reason you idiots are taking it off the 3,000,000 is it makes seem like it's a larger % when it isn't. So get lost troll.

I wrote a post explaining the math, you are wrong, LOL You really are making your self look dumb now. You have absolutely no credibility on this topic as I posted you typing PS4 selling 28.5 percent more than xone from page 2.

Lets review:

PS4 sold 1.2 million more right? IF they had sold 1.5 million more that would be 50 percent (cuz half of 3 million is 1.5 million). Half of 1.5 million is 750,000 which would be 25 percent. So basically your saying that 450,000 (1.2 million - 750,0000=450,000) units accounts for 3.5 percent? LOL

Does that sound right to anyone else here on this board????

EDIT:

Funny how you agreed with me when I first told you that the 28 percent number is the amount xone sold LESS than ps4, but now your flip flopping and going back to your original argument

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#217  Edited By blackace
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Yawn......

If the whole pie is 4,200,000 (100%) and you take away a slice of 3,000,000 (71.5%), you're left with small slice of 1,200,000 (28.5%). Nuff said.

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@blackace: Dude are you trolling or really this stupid? How are you going to talk all this shit when you can't even do a basic math problem lol. If you are trolling though, touche

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@blackace said:

Yawn......

If the whole pie is 4,200,000 (100%) and you take away a slice of 3,000,000 (71.5%), you're left with small slice of 1,200,000 (28.5%). Nuff said.

That doesnt even make sense since we are talking about sales from both consoles from both companies, so the 100 percent pie would PS4 sales + xone sales, the whole pie would be 7,200,000 LOL

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BlackAce doe......

He's knows he's wrong he's just to much of an ignorant prideful fool to admit it.

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@BlessedChill said:

BlackAce doe......

He's knows he's wrong he's just to much of an ignorant prideful fool to admit it.

Yea its ridiculous lol. How can you damage control a basic math problem though LOL

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#222  Edited By blackace
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@blackace said:

Yawn......

If the whole pie is 4,200,000 (100%) and you take away a slice of 3,000,000 (71.5%), you're left with small slice of 1,200,000 (28.5%). Nuff said.

That doesnt even make sense since we are talking about sales from both consoles from both companies, so the 100 percent pie would PS4 sales + xone sales, the whole pie would be 7,200,000 LOL

You are clueless. Go back to school kid. Seriously....

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@blackace said:

@PS4TrumpsXbox1 said:

@blackace said:

Yawn......

If the whole pie is 4,200,000 (100%) and you take away a slice of 3,000,000 (71.5%), you're left with small slice of 1,200,000 (28.5%). Nuff said.

That doesnt even make sense since we are talking about sales from both consoles from both companies, so the 100 percent pie would PS4 sales + xone sales, the whole pie would be 7,200,000 LOL

You are clueless. Go back to school kid. Seriously....

1138 × 900 - dpcdsb.org

LOL you cant be this dumb...... DId you even finish your degree in that college you said you went to. Probably not..... LOL

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@blackace: *Sigh*

If you can see the fact that Microsoft would have to sell another 40% of their current sales total to equal Sony's 4.2 million, when the numbers are right in front of your eyes, I'm not going to continue with this argument. It's like arguing with a wall.

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#225  Edited By Caseytappy
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@blackace said:

Yawn......

If the whole pie is 4,200,000 (100%) and you take away a slice of 3,000,000 (71.5%), you're left with small slice of 1,200,000 (28.5%). Nuff said.

That's correct but the whole pie is 3 million because you want to know what percentage more consoles MS needs to sell to get to the 4.2 million not what percentage Sony needs to burn to stoop to Xbone levels .

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#226 PS4TrumpsXbox1
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Its really quite a simple math problem, if blacklace is that dumb to see that the answer is not 28 percent but is 40 percent, it kind of sad LOL

28 percent of 3 million= 840,000

40 percent of 3 million = 1,200,000

Sony sold 4.2 million, MS sold 3 million

4.2 million - 3 million= 1,200,000

Really simple, LOL @ Blacklace (seriously get a refund from that college for those trig and calculus class LOL)

There is absolutely no way you can damage control or say otherwise to this without looking like an idiot (seriously google the math portion of my post)

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@kingtito said:

@hoosier7 said:

@I_can_haz said:

@kingtito said:

Read the last line of this one link

Another calling it best looking console graphics link

USA today calling it "arguably the best looking console game" link

Eurogamer pretty much saying the same thing link

Gamefaqs stated it's the best looking console game to date link

Giantbomb saying it's the most graphically intense game link

and of course THE most important and the only one that counts on SWs right now........ SWs "official" verdict as stated by I_can't_haz epic fail

Enough reviews have called it the best looking game on consoles to date. Yeah this includes KZ;SF

If you're gonna troll, troll well at least...

The Eurogamer article doesn't say anything about Ryse being a graphics king. Other than the USA Today link and the N4G link you posted none of the sites you linked called it the graphics king. There are just as many or more sites that called Killzone Shadow Fall the best looking console game. Shows idiot lems like you that were yelling "critics have spoken!" were talking out of your asses. Nothing you posted is objective proof that Ryse looks better than KZSF.

As for System Wars Polls here is a bigger poll than mine including PC games and KZSF defecates on Ryse there:

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/best-graphics-in-video-games-2013-31003191/?page=1

If you're gonna use polls where lems hijacked with their alt accounts as proof you might as well pull links from a horse's ass because you'll get better and more trustworthy results there. There are many other polls with KZSF winning other than the one I just posted so there goes your "proof".

Lol that's pretty embarrassing, one even mentions KZ but in no way says Ryse is graphically better. Tito did you even read your own links?

"That said, if you really want a taste of what we can expect from the next generation of consoles, Ryse towers over the rest." <------ the ONLY line you really needed to read. Guess you didn't see it. Yes this includes KZSF

Actually John Linneman the writer of that digital foundry article verified in a Neogaf thread that he thinks KZSF is the best looking next gen game with Ryse coming second.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=91351048#post91351048

"I do think Killzone Shadowfall is the best looking launch title between the two, though, but Ryse is definitely second place for me."

His neogaf profile is Dark10x.

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So the console that 40% more powerful (around) is selling 40% more than The (weaker) One? lol