PS5 Pro - 2TB, disc drive sold separately, $699 price tag

@DragonfireXZ95 said:

@howmakewood said:

@DragonfireXZ95 said:

@last_lap said:

@Maroxad: Why are you only referring to digital?

When consoles have the advantage that physical media offers making it 10x easier to find deals.

Like I said when a new game comes out on disk it's usually on sale within months yet not digitally.

Thousands of stores worldwide beat a dozen or so PC storefronts.

The fact that we PC players can get key deals from the likes of Greenmangaming and Humble Bundle before the game is actually released beats any console physical storefront.

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 - Ultra Edition Aug 22, 2024 $79.99

ELDEN RING Shadow of the Erdtree May 24, 2024 $33.99

Date Ordered:Tuesday, February 20, 2024 Your Order HELLDIVERS™ 2 $33.19 -17% All ordered before release for much less than the full price. Wukong I got after release below, but still much cheaper than full price. Date Ordered:Tuesday, August 27, 2024 Your Order Black Myth: Wukong $53.99

Let me know when you can do that on console.

console retail deals here are pretty good, like I got ff7 rebirth for 55€(80€ on psn), Returnal for 50€ etc. launch/pre-order prices

it's why I wouldn't buy a digital only console as there's no competition for digital pricing at all unlike on pc

Where'd you get those at? We don't have anything like that here in the US unless it's some reward thing you sign up for and typically spend money on to get that membership.

Finland, also saw Rebirth at supermarket for 35€ on clearance sale a month ago, physical deals on consoles way better than digital sales

John has a point, he just said it the wrong way of explaining it:

This could be my excuse to replay the game in hard lol

Funny how that works 😂

Isn't funny how you cows were always saying games looked great on the PS5, now you're posting tweets from randoms saying the PS5 is blurry now the PRO is coming 🤦‍♂️

@DragonfireXZ95 said:

@last_lap said:

@Maroxad: Why are you only referring to digital?

When consoles have the advantage that physical media offers making it 10x easier to find deals.

Like I said when a new game comes out on disk it's usually on sale within months yet not digitally.

Thousands of stores worldwide beat a dozen or so PC storefronts.

The fact that we PC players can get key deals from the likes of Greenmangaming and Humble Bundle before the game is actually released beats any console physical storefront.

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 - Ultra Edition Aug 22, 2024 $79.99

ELDEN RING Shadow of the Erdtree May 24, 2024 $33.99

Date Ordered:Tuesday, February 20, 2024 Your Order HELLDIVERS™ 2 $33.19 -17% All ordered before release for much less than the full price. Wukong I got after release below, but still much cheaper than full price. Date Ordered:Tuesday, August 27, 2024 Your Order Black Myth: Wukong $53.99

Let me know when you can do that on console.

Let me know when your PC can borrow a game off a friend and pay nothing, let me know when you can trade your game in on PC, let me know when you can sell your game on PC.

Hermits claim PC is freedom and you your games are stuck and you can't do anything with them once you've finished them.

I said the performance mode looked blurry, pay attention!

@last_lap said:

@DragonfireXZ95 said:

@last_lap said:

@Maroxad: Why are you only referring to digital?

When consoles have the advantage that physical media offers making it 10x easier to find deals.

Like I said when a new game comes out on disk it's usually on sale within months yet not digitally.

Thousands of stores worldwide beat a dozen or so PC storefronts.

The fact that we PC players can get key deals from the likes of Greenmangaming and Humble Bundle before the game is actually released beats any console physical storefront.

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 - Ultra Edition Aug 22, 2024 $79.99

ELDEN RING Shadow of the Erdtree May 24, 2024 $33.99

Date Ordered:Tuesday, February 20, 2024 Your Order HELLDIVERS™ 2 $33.19 -17% All ordered before release for much less than the full price. Wukong I got after release below, but still much cheaper than full price. Date Ordered:Tuesday, August 27, 2024 Your Order Black Myth: Wukong $53.99

Let me know when you can do that on console.

Let me know when your PC can borrow a game off a friend and pay nothing, let me know when you can trade your game in on PC, let me know when you can sell your game on PC.

Hermits claim PC is freedom and you your games are stuck and you can't do anything with them once you've finished them.

Trading and seelling games, probably not in the forseeable future as it's not part of any of the Publisher's TOS.

@last_lap said:

@DragonfireXZ95 said:

@last_lap said:

@Maroxad: Why are you only referring to digital?

When consoles have the advantage that physical media offers making it 10x easier to find deals.

Like I said when a new game comes out on disk it's usually on sale within months yet not digitally.

Thousands of stores worldwide beat a dozen or so PC storefronts.

The fact that we PC players can get key deals from the likes of Greenmangaming and Humble Bundle before the game is actually released beats any console physical storefront.

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 - Ultra Edition Aug 22, 2024 $79.99

ELDEN RING Shadow of the Erdtree May 24, 2024 $33.99

Date Ordered:Tuesday, February 20, 2024 Your Order HELLDIVERS™ 2 $33.19 -17% All ordered before release for much less than the full price. Wukong I got after release below, but still much cheaper than full price. Date Ordered:Tuesday, August 27, 2024 Your Order Black Myth: Wukong $53.99

Let me know when you can do that on console.

Let me know when your PC can borrow a game off a friend and pay nothing, let me know when you can trade your game in on PC, let me know when you can sell your game on PC.

Hermits claim PC is freedom and you your games are stuck and you can't do anything with them once you've finished them.

You could previously share games on Steam, but now there is the Steam Family feature which allows up to 6 users to combine all their games together into one super library that can be shared. What console does that?

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/steam-families-is-available-now-lets-you-and-five-people-merge-your-game-libraries-into-one-heres-how/1100-6526453/

Also, I already told you that you can sell games by creating an account, buying the game, and then selling that account.

@BassMan: I've sold a knife on CS2 for $800. Does that count in digital resale? 😅

I salute you for taking advantage of that moron. I wouldn't pay a penny for it. I hate micro transactions. They are a nasty plague that has ruined gaming.

@SolidGame_basic: Is performance mode on the PS5? Well then you're still talking about the PS5, you pay attention.

Performance mode for FF7R was blurry, yes. I played the whole game in Fidelity Mode instead.

Which is a shit experience also because of the low frame rate. So there is no winning with that game on a PS5. Got to play it on PC or PS5 Pro for an acceptable experience.

@BassMan: So you have "work arounds" not total freedom then. I think you Hermits need to stop peddling the total freedom motto from now on.

@SolidGame_basic: Funny how you're only admitting that now the PRO is coming soon.

Are you really gonna waste nearly $800 US for it?

No comment about the Steam Family feature?

Oh snap!

Yeah, Console retail is really good over here in Sweden as well. Digital however is a mess. And is almost always cheaper on PC.

That said, I still like getting my switch games digital even if it is a bit more expensive, works so well with the handheld nature of the switch.

This is obvious. The new AMD GPUs are coming in a few months anyway. So, these new advancements will be available to AMD users on PC shortly.

Your boy Phil released an XSX with 2TB, same hardware, $600. This is incrementally more and has way more power and features. Rekt much?

@BassMan: Jealous that my kids can come out to the lounge room and take anyone of my games put it in their console and play.

Um that's family sharing and has been around since the invention of the cartridge lol.

My cousin in New York can access my steam library and vice versa. I'm in Washington.

Can your console do that?

@SolidGame_basic: You don't even understand the word rekt or it's meaning.

You're going to give Sony near $800 for a console to play less blurry games that are STILL hamstrung by the og PS5, now that's what we call rekting yourself 🤦‍♂️

@pclover1980: Why would I care if a cousin in another state can play my games? It's a worthless feature.

So have you and your cousin swapped accounts yet...oh sorry borrowed each others account yet to play each other's games?

@pclover1980: yes. Consoles can do that too

@last_lap: It's not account swapping. It's steam's family feature.

@pclover1980: You didn't answer my question.

And apparently you can on console as someone else posted lol.

@BassMan: I think you dropped something as you can share your account on console with other family members on their console lol.

@last_lap: Your argument is your son can play your games. Sure. But my son can do it too in my own home. Lol

Also neat, it's a great feature that all game platforms should have.

You are thinking too small. This feature allows 6 users to share all their libraries together across the country. This creates one super library that all users can access. You can share thousands of games. Each user will still have separate saves, achievements, etc.. This is the ultimate game sharing feature.

The way it is price, its just the value isn't there for the Pro without the optical disc drive and no stand for it is a misstep. Now had Sony included the "DuelSense Edge Controller" with the Pro alone, I'd be okay with this. The price would be justify had it include the Edge Controller. If your gonna have the best console upgrade, might as well include the Edge.

@BassMan: I did a quick search that shows you can share your account with others on console, now I don't know the full details because I have no need for it.

Before you went on your rant, you should have looked up what consoles can do in that space as you guts brought up account sharing as some win when in the end it's not.

@pclover1980: Again you haven't answered my question of have you used it with your cousin, so by not answering you actually have.

Why brag about a feature you don't even use?

@last_lap: what? We're actually using steam's family sharing feature. We're sharing each other's library with one another.

I can also confirmed my oldest daughter is sharing my Steam account on the family sharing so she can play some of the games I've bought if she wants to.

As for consoles, I've done it before on Xbox since the kids still love playing Fortnite on my XBL account. I never done family sharing on PlayStation though.

$700. lol oooof.

When I use to have an Xbox in the past I was able to log into my nephews Xbox in his living room and he would have access to my games that were on his Xbox so that's how it use to work for me in the past but this was years ago...

With this new Steam family share, you can essentially share access with your library and another family or friend as well and play each others games; haven't used this since I have no need but yeah...

The option is there for both; albeit done differently

You still aren't getting what the feature actually is. It is not just sharing with another user. It is like a giant potluck. 6 people bring different foods and they all share together in a big feast. Everyone gets to eat the different foods. Same thing with this feature. All 6 users bring their own collection of games and share with the others simultaneously. It is like a never ending feast of games. All 6 accounts are linked in that family group. When one user adds a game to their library, it becomes available for all 6 users. So, you can pool together and build a massive library of games. Everybody is saving money and getting to experience games that they normally wouldn't have access to. This collection of games can be accessed wherever these 6 different users are in the country. That is pretty epic and no console does that.

I can't remember but does Steam allow for the same game to be played by two people?

No. You can play any game in a friend/family's library, but not if they are playing that game.

I have added my boys to my account so they can play what they want and I can monitor what they play.

Thanks for the confirmation. I couldn't remember. I do know the sharing on Xbox allows to people to play the game at the same time.

Yep, the same thing I do to my oldest daughter by adding my account as she can play whatever's in my library.

I just wish other client stores would do the same as Steam does.

And still Wi-Fi 5 in the end.

Really? I saw in Pro reveal that they showed how 60fps works in TLOU2, Ratchet etc.

Yeah. Performance mode on Pro will be awesome

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/igns-new-high-bitrate-4k-60fps-footage-finally-offers-a-proper-taste-of-ps5-pros-potential.1674879/

Regarding TLOU 2 comparison

Performance mode on PS5 has lower IQ compared to fidelity mode at native 4k/30. Here you can see PSSR at work. Performance mode on PS5Pro has vastly sharper IQ at 60 vs. fidelity mode at native 4/30fps on PS5. Yeah, it's a big upgrade

I'm sure there are some games that, with further optimization, can "get to 60fps". But this console is not going to create a situation like what happened at the beginning of last gen, where one console had a significant (XBone was 720p, PS4 was 1080p) advantage over the other.

You are paying $800 for a very marginal upgrade. And yes, I can laugh at you for it.

THAT LINK IS YOUR PROOF?

Mr. Matty talks PS5 Pro, and it's hilarious.