PS5 Pro - 2TB, disc drive sold separately, $699 price tag

Xbox sharing has to be on one console. You can't share games from afar.

https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/hardware-network/console/my-home-xbox

"When you first install a digital game on your home Xbox, your console retrieves a license from the Xbox network to play it. The digital game license is tied to your home Xbox and never expires unless you change your home Xbox. This gives you access to your digital games whether you’re online or offline.Friends and family that sign in to your home Xbox have access too, even when you’re not signed in. For instance, a family member can play your games when you’re not using your console—they just need to sign in with their Xbox profile.Important You can download, play, and share your digital games on any Xbox console without having to switch your home Xbox. This is handy if you have a second console or play on a friend’s console. Everyone can enjoy your games if the console is online and everyone is signed in to the Xbox network."

On PS5, game sharing requires everyone to have signed into that console with their account.

https://www.androidauthority.com/gameshare-ps5-3146575/

"To gameshare on PS5, navigate toSettings > Users and Accounts > Otherand selectConsole Sharing and Offline Play.Have your friend sign in to your console with their PSN account, and you'll have access to the game libraries on each other's consoles."

With Steam, your friend doesn't need to sign into their account on your computer. You just add them in the family in settings, and they'll see all the games and be able to play them from across the country with never having to step foot in the house or do a screen share ever.

The game sharing for consoles is not even in the same ballpark as Steam Families.

For instance, I don't own Animal Well, but my friend does, so it's available to me to play.

On top of that, if someone owns more DLC than the other but we both own the same game, then we can choose that copy with more DLC included to be the preferred copy when we play.

@DragonfireXZ95: You went to so much trouble to tell some me something I don't.use nor care about in any form.

I made that fairly obvious in the post of mine you quoted.

That is incorrect. The home console (the one set as home) can allow anyone on that console to play the games associated with it the account. If you login into another account at a different location, you will be able to access all of the games while someone on the home console can also access and play the games at the same time.

I bought the disc drive…

"I'm getting nickled and dimed, but I don't care cos I wanna simp for a megacorp"

Good lord. These fanboys will surely buy a PS6 at 1200 bucks at this point.

They will buy at that price even if it is a paper cut out.😂

That was a really bad reveal video. Justifying $699 is a very tall order for any console. Here, it's like they didn't even try.

I'm not going to use it.

I did op to buy the OG $500 PS5 fat at launch specifically for the disk drive out of FOMO or "if" scenarios...but not a single time have I actually went out a purchased a physical game this generation.

I'm simply not going to use the disk drive. The freedom of not having to keep up with, maintain, and or worry about a game being lost or stolen unconsciously won me over.

During the PS4 error someone stole my PS4 and all my games.

Upon re-buying that PS4, I had mentally resigned to re-purchasing all my beloved games, however upon signing into PSN looking for games I purchase before, I found I already "owned" them and only needed to download them again. All my disk owned games were simply game & had to be bought again.

I hear ya…I’m like 50 / 50. I usually don’t replay most games so I like being able to offload and sell them. But digital has become so convenient and also saves you space. I like the Nintendo way of doing physical. The cases are small and the resale value especially 1st party is good. I’m sure I can still sell Smash Bros for at least $40 if I wanted to.

Yeah, even if I were to get a PS5 at some point in the future (Astro Bot made a good case for it), I would just get the default version. Not paying extra for this...

Edit: Turns out there was some misinformation, so I edited it out. Still, nothing I have seen thus far that looks like I should spend extra, especially as I don't really care for technical graphics regardless.

Beware of misinformation, leaving this in spoilers so people know what to watch out for,

Don't fall for this

@Maroxad: What is the misinformation, specifically?

@Maroxad: What's the ~ price for it going to be in your neck of the woods? How does Sweden compare to like the UK when it comes to prices? Still a decent upmark compared to USD?

I'm hearing that the PS5 Pro is as powerful as a 4070 Nvidia gpu. Is this true? The PS5 Pro reveal was awful. $700 USD is expensive and there's no disk drive as part of the package, which makes it disrespectful.

Sony can stick that vertical stand where the sun don't shine, also sold separately, jerks.

No, but people are running with What Richard (from Digital Foundry) said.

When asked what was the closest thing in performance, there's no AMD equivalent because of the Raytracing features, and the closes RT features were a 4070. He also stated the rasterization (traditional rendering) would be on par with 7700xt

So 7700xt with 4070 RT capabilities

Yes. As Richard from Digital Foundry said that closest equivalent PC GPU to Pro is 4070.

The cash grab 5 pro. I did not have a PS2 slim. I skipped PS3. Had a PS4 then PS4 pro which I thought at the time was an upgrade. Currently own a PS5 but not getting a PS5 pro. I'm good on that.

You still have to log in. Playstation sharing works like that too, but you have to log into the console with creds. So, technically you can game share from afar, but you have to give them your login info or physically log into the console yourself, which isn't the same for Steam.

Lol, that's definitely a way to put your fingers in your ears and go, "La la la la la!"

I never brought it up for PC to try and get a "win" that was done by Hermits, and others have shown it's also on console, so they cancel each other out by default. I simply stated that I don't use it nor care for it, so i'm like🤷‍♂️

What do you mean "maintain"?

How much of a risk is it for you to lose a game or have a game stolen?

degradation and or physical wear & tear.

The bold part ^ If I hadn't experienced the theft of my PS4 and all physical games that came along with it, I may have also thought theft as a non factor as well...however I DID have my games stolen and only my digital games remained, to my surprise, when I purchased a new PS4 console and signed in.

To be fair, regarding your first sentence, Blu Rays are some of the longest lasting optical media, and is scratch resistant. When I was getting a load of second hand Wii U games, because of that, all were mint. Also, I don't think modern consoles do much reading from the disc after installation. But I hear you especially if you have concerns about constantly inserting and ejecting optical media from slot loading drives. They can be disconcerting. For example, I have no idea how CDs don't scratch inserting and ejecting from the external apple Super Drive. They feel like you're touching something underneath and but they just don't scratch. That's the one thing I preferred about tray drives. They just feel like they're going to handle discs better, even if that's an emotional response.

Also, optical media was never meant for the constant active reading like HDDs. They're meant for storing bulk data and that's it. HDDs and SSDs are meant for constant use.

I agree with you when it comes to digital games on consoles. I like that my games are all in one place and I can just choose what I want installed without ever needing a disc. And they just carry with you as you go through new consoles.

That's rough about your PS4, sorry to hear that. I hope you caught the guy.

If the system was £600 without a drive I would understand but £700 is a hard sell.

Quoting an EA executive defending a high price isnt helping matters lol

I guess he was relevant when he worked on Titanfall for Xbox, huh

For every ONE person saying the ps5 pro price point is fine there are a thousand saying its not.

But desperate times mean desperate measures for cows...raking through posts trying to find a crumb of comfort amongst the sea of Ps5 pro negativity then running back to post their find is funny to watch

@saint-george said:

For every ONE person saying the ps5 pro price point is fine there are a thousand saying its not.

But desperate times mean desperate measures for cows...raking through posts trying to find a crumb of comfort amongst the sea of Ps5 pro negativity then running back to post their find is funny to watch

Well if we go by that logic, then the Xbox is a stinker since PS5 is outselling it 3-1 😎

Oh snap

Holy ****! It's a box! Wowza!

All yours right now for a cool 8 bills. lol :P

@SecretPolice: Only 8 bills? Can they be 1 dollar bills? :P

Already have all that.

Idk... I got my ps4 pro bundled with red dead 2 and that was also a huge new release at the time.

That being said I fully regret buying the ps4 pro and this ps5 situation is way worse.

Why? Busy with other systems at the time?

Scam!

https://bsky.app/profile/matpiscatella.bsky.social/post/3l4jhkx64lx24

Mat Piscatella‪ - ‬“It’s reasonable to argue that the PS5 Pro’s value prop doesn’t meet PS4 Pro’s at the time of its launch. I also don’t know how much that really matters with the target audience. This is a group that buys more on brand promise than what’s actually being offered...”

@kvallyx:

"This is a group that buys more on brand promise than what’s actually being offered"

Generations n triangles n shit

Not funny anymore, is it? Just like Samsung making fun of the iPhone for losing the headphone jack at their press conference, only to remove theirs a year or two later.

You don't. 4070ti MSRP is 540 at lowest ( depends on RAM) and 7900xt is 650$ MSRP. Including all other components price is going higher than PS5 Pro is

Mainly playing PC and couldn't play games at 30fps. I also found all the playstation exclusives that were hyped up to be a letdown for the most part. Spiderman was great. Horizon was pretty good, but I got bored with it halfway through. Didn't care for bloodborne or last of us remake. I do want to give God of War another shot as I only played through the opening sequence.

Sony trying to make up for the lackluster presentation lol.

Preorders start Thursday. The odds of me being able to get the 30th anniversary edition on Thursday are probably slim to none, but I’m gonna try lol