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#51 Litchie  Online
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Depends on what you mean.

I believe it will sell well. They'll play it safe, have good graphics and games devoid of gameplay, heavy on the cinematics to please the casuals.

Personally, I think it will also have shit controllers, shallow games and a few dumb gimmicks that never takes off. Usual Sony stuff. Nothing a real gamer would miss.

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#52 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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@ProtossRushX said:

Last of Us 2

Ghost of Tsushima

Spiderman 2

Horizon Zero Dawn 2

FF7 Remake

Street Fighter 5 remastered

BloodBorne 2

Death Stranding

Wow how do you miss out on these epic games and call yourself a "gamer" imo you can't.

You think anyone cares about your opinion about games, or what you call a "gamer" ? They don't.

PS5 had better have bc because that'll be the only thing that saves them from falling hard on their ass next gen.

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#53 robert_sparkes
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They might win but it'll be a a lot closer than this generation. MS have a mountain to climb to win a generation as they are non existent in Asia.

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#54 robert_sparkes
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Launch the PS5 with last of us 2 and bloodbourne 2 and it's a win.

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#55 ellos
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If the competition from MS is lacking again and the multiplat goes the way of ps5 then they will dominate. Its not easy to dominate without things lining up like how they did this gen. Switch will always be a complementary console to ps5 or the next xbox. It will still be a buy to play nintendo games. Not to play the next COD, Fifa or whatever next gen trend will be on the big screen. Its not easy for nintendo to do it alone.

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#56  Edited By BoxRekt
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I'm a playstation fan but I'll reserve judgement for when Sony reveal PS5.

No, company is above letting you down!

I'm not a corporate salve so I'm not going to automatically give anyone of these companies a W off blind loyaty.

The only reason I defend and support Sony is because they are the company who most closely reflects my wants and desires as a console gamer. The minute they betray those desires is the moment when my allegiance to them will be severed.

There is no guarantee Sony wont betray us gamers like MS has, but I am hopeful that they stay true and not conspire to destroy the gaming industry by following MS's lead trying to turn everything in gaming into a pay-by-the-minute microtransaction of cheap shovelware games.

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#57 Planeforger
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I could see those games coming out on the PS5.

I could also see myself shrugging and not buying a PS5. Nothing about that list of games excites me.

I mean, Bloodborne was fine, but I wouldn't exactly rush out to buy a new platform to play a sequel.

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#58 StormyJoe
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@ProtossRushX: it is quite silly to say any console will dominate next gen. No one knows the specs or the games yet.

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#59 SecretPolice
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Dat insecurity.

Lol :P

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#60 PC_Rocks
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So PS5 won't have anything for me.

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#61 knight-k
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Launch at 399.

That's all they need to do to win next gen.

It's MS who has to play catch up.

Nintendo? Well lol, only delusional sheep think Switch can make a dent in the PS domination

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#62  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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It will finish what the Sega CD started.

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#63 emgesp
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@ProtossRushX: For someone who's been here since 2007 that was quite the newbie fanboy post.

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#64 emgesp
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@KBFloYd said:

they are starting next gen pretty horribly by cancelling conferences left and right. if this was their method of building hype they are failing miserably.

not a good sign.

They are cancelling conferences left and right because all unnanounced titles are in development for the PS5 and they aren't ready to spill the beans this year. They will likely give us a tease late this year for a meeting in early 2020 to "Talk about the future of Playstation".

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#65  Edited By WhatAFailure
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@Gaming-Planet said:

I think SJWs at Playstation California will murder the PS5.

Archive this/screenshot this.

I don't know what this means but sounds like a stupid post. I'll screenshot it and then throw it in the Recycling Bin

Nothing is guaranteed, as Sony was predicted to be the loser this generation after the PS3 and then proved everyone wrong. PSVR was predicted to be the last place loser compared to Oculus Rift and Vive, and ended up selling the most.

I'll put money on PS5 being the leader since they have now added 2 new IPs that are going to be making big money if done right (Spider-Man and Horizon franchise). PS5 graphics for those sequels? - holy crap. Also, God of War soft reboot proved successful, so even that is on rather sure footing. I can't see Microsoft matching what Sony will be putting out next generation.

As for Nintendo, the Switch is technically their head start, unless people want to rewrite the rules and pretend the Switch is a replacement for the Wii U. But the PS5 will easily pass the Switch total as well. No sweat there.

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#66  Edited By PAL360
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Maybe...maybe not. If PS5 has full organic PS4 bc (not emulation), i'm in. My current gen library is just too great to be ignored!

Otherwise, anything can happen.

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#67 michaelmikado
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Waaaaaaayyyyyy too early for this thread soldier.

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#68  Edited By Zaryia
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@Gaming-Planet said:

I think SJWs at Playstation California will murder the PS5.

Archive this/screenshot this.

I think the low IQ southerners will murder XB2.

Remember that anti-video game stance the Trump White House put out, and NRA keeps raging about? Or the (R) representative who tried to put a "Sin Tax" on them THIS YEAR!?

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#69 PhilSpencer
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You wish... Nextbox will have not only the ability to play games anywhere on any device through streaming tech like Netflix... it will have aaae games, graphics Kings etc

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@philspencer: 0/10 account

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@zaryia said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

I think SJWs at Playstation California will murder the PS5.

Archive this/screenshot this.

I think the low IQ southerners will murder XB2.

Remember that anti-video game stance the Trump White House put out, and NRA keeps raging about? Or the (R) representative who tried to put a "Sin Tax" on them THIS YEAR!?

Xbox has already been murdered with its lack of first party title games. All they need for them to tap out is to have IPs run by SJWs.

Nintendo will be king, they will also be based and redpilled like Steam.

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#72  Edited By Zaryia
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@Gaming-Planet said:
@zaryia said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

I think SJWs at Playstation California will murder the PS5.

Archive this/screenshot this.

I think the low IQ southerners will murder XB2.

Remember that anti-video game stance the Trump White House put out, and NRA keeps raging about? Or the (R) representative who tried to put a "Sin Tax" on them THIS YEAR!?

Xbox has already been murdered with its lack of first party title games. All they need for them to tap out is to have IPs run by SJWs.

Nintendo will be king, they will also be based and redpilled like Steam.

What IPs were ruined by SJWs?

If you think having 7/10 looking girls instead of a 10/10 in ME4 and a few women in BF5 is why those games were bad, instead of actual game design issues (which IS why they were bad), then you're just a bozo.

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#73  Edited By tormentos
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@FireEmblem_Man said:

Too bad the Switch is dominating world wide sales. Power means nothing if PS5 can't compete with Nintendo's 1st party exclusives

Hahahahahaaa man Nintendo is freaking 50 millions behind sony or more,is not even close at this point,but let me remind you that the wii was last gen winner and nintendo took a huge beating with its first attempt this gen so badly that they basically did a second attempt in the same gen.

I don't think the switch will do anything to PS5 sales at all.

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So?

Does dominating even matter? The box in your living room isn't a basketball team, its not like there is a championship at the end of the year. Unless you count the stupid ass critics awards, as if they mean anything.

lol this is the saddest attempt to downplay the popularity and high stance of the PS4 out there.

So now not only sales and exclusives don't matter but nothing matters.lol

@goldenelementxl said:

Real power? The PS5 will be outclassed by what I have in my PC right now. What the Switch has is quality games. The PS5 will be playing catch-up from it's beating from the Xbox One X. And I don't care to play any more movies right now...

I see that Blackace highjacked your account when you sink to their level you are not really better than them.

Come on you are better than this.

@the-a-baum said:

Well we will see. Lots of changes over at Playstation Management.

Jim Ryan, (remember the guy that said who wants to play old games? and we have to protect the children from cross play) is now head of Sony Interactive. Also lots of other changes in their management. So with that guy in charge good chance there is no BC. (But you guys never cared anyways right?)

Also Sean Layden said there will be fewer games from now on (Yet they will be bigger budget). Yet another reason to skip E3, and screw the fans and marketing partners. How long until the 3rd party support that got Sony so far this gen leaves them? Let's not forget the biggest selling PS4 bundles have been Call of Duty, FIFA, Star Wars, Bat Man etc not the exclusives.

Nice story can you tell me a horror one now?

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#74 tormentos
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@i_p_daily said:

This thread is showing the cows hypocrisy. Remember all the no one cares about BC posts from cows, and the nobody buys a new console to play old games posts? Now the hardcore cows (and the cow alts) are all for BC with the PS5.

Even the OP puts it at the top of his/her list as its the first thing mentioned.

Can you imagine the fake outrage from cows if/when the PS5 is not BC and Sony announce a PS Now version 2 lol.

Dude people don't give a shit about BC which is why the PS4 and Switch are selling great while not having it,while the xbox one is the least selling console while having it.

The PS4 isn't the only console that doesn't have BC the switch is selling great so is the PS4 and both lack it.

Again is not like my PS4 will stop working the day the PS5 comes out,but if the PS5 does come with BC well that will be the day were BC will become irrelevant again,specially if it include PS1,ps2 and PS3 games or is bigger than the xbox one.

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#75 Sagemode87
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@mandzilla: Sony had to release a year later and do pretty much everything wrong at launch for that to happen..

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#76  Edited By ronvalencia
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@PAL360 said:

Maybe...maybe not. If PS5 has full organic PS4 bc (not emulation), i'm in. My current gen library is just too great to be ignored!

Otherwise, anything can happen.

There's nothing wrong with emulation when done correctly. Modern x86 CPUs has hardware and firmware microcode based translation methods from x86 CISC stack based to RISCy load-store CPU core.

If you didn't know modern x86 CPUs has hardware emulation, then AMD/Intel did a good job hiding it.

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#77  Edited By ronvalencia
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@zaryia said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

I think SJWs at Playstation California will murder the PS5.

Archive this/screenshot this.

I think the low IQ southerners will murder XB2.

Remember that anti-video game stance the Trump White House put out, and NRA keeps raging about? Or the (R) representative who tried to put a "Sin Tax" on them THIS YEAR!?

Tell that to Leftist SJWs who complains about Alita Battle Angel.

How about Iran that bans Pokémon Go?

You're a hypocrite.

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#78 mandzilla  Moderator
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@Sagemode87: Well, gaming is unpredictable so who knows.

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#79 Speeny
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Personally I’m a big fan of the Switch’s portability and would be happy if other consoles went that direction too. Imo it’s just a more comfortable/convenient gaming experience.

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#80 SecretPolice
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@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

I think SJWs at Playstation California will murder the PS5.

Archive this/screenshot this.

I think the low IQ southerners will murder XB2.

Remember that anti-video game stance the Trump White House put out, and NRA keeps raging about? Or the (R) representative who tried to put a "Sin Tax" on them THIS YEAR!?

Tell that to Leftist SJWs who complains about Alita Battle Angel.

How about Iran that bans Pokémon Go?

You're a hypocrite.

Yeah baby!!!

:D

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@SecretPolice said:
@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:
@Gaming-Planet said:

I think SJWs at Playstation California will murder the PS5.

Archive this/screenshot this.

I think the low IQ southerners will murder XB2.

Remember that anti-video game stance the Trump White House put out, and NRA keeps raging about? Or the (R) representative who tried to put a "Sin Tax" on them THIS YEAR!?

Tell that to Leftist SJWs who complains about Alita Battle Angel.

How about Iran that bans Pokémon Go?

You're a hypocrite.

Yeah baby!!!

:D

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game, and only worrying about SJWs (who can't make laws) is silly.

I'm not a hypocrite. I get that both sides have been anti-video game at times and for certain issues. I'm merely also showing the Trump White House put out anti-video game videos and blames them for every shooting to protect the NRA. And unlike them, twitter SJWs don't make legislation.

P.S. Iran, and Islamic culture in general, is an overly conservative society. Not liberal. Hence their stance on gay rights, women's rights, secularism, sexuality, dress codes, etc. is by definition the opposite of liberal. That example is a +1 for my argument. Not surprising considering most Domestic Terrorism in recent history is from the right. 10x more than the left!

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#82  Edited By robert_sparkes
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Sony usually dominate anyway they have won 3/4 generations. The one they lost was a Nintendo freak accident. MS will struggle to gain ground as they are non existent in parts of Europe and Asia.

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I dunno, winning a gen always gives a company a bad case of the dumbs.

See also, PS2, Wii, Xbox 360.

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#84 pdogg93
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@Bread_or_Decide: really only MS.

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We shall see. Gen 8 was a good one to win because having backwards compatibility for digital and physical games right out of the box next gen will make it difficult for gamers already on PS4 to switch over without losing their library.

On the other hand, digital and physical media might both get taken out buy cloud gaming at the same time if the infrastructure is ready. MS is slightly ahead of Sony should gaming go to an all streaming future.

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#86  Edited By ronvalencia
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@zaryia said:
@SecretPolice said:
@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:

I think the low IQ southerners will murder XB2.

Remember that anti-video game stance the Trump White House put out, and NRA keeps raging about? Or the (R) representative who tried to put a "Sin Tax" on them THIS YEAR!?

Tell that to Leftist SJWs who complains about Alita Battle Angel.

How about Iran that bans Pokémon Go?

You're a hypocrite.

Yeah baby!!!

:D

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game, and only worrying about SJWs (who can't make laws) is silly.

I'm not a hypocrite. I get that both sides have been anti-video game at times and for certain issues. I'm merely also showing the Trump White House put out anti-video game videos and blames them for every shooting to protect the NRA. And unlike them, twitter SJWs don't make legislation.

P.S. Iran, and Islamic culture in general, is an overly conservative society. Not liberal. Hence their stance on gay rights, women's rights, secularism, sexuality, dress codes, etc. is by definition the opposite of liberal. That example is a +1 for my argument. Not surprising considering most Domestic Terrorism in recent history is from the right. 10x more than the left!

Prove "the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game". Where's your facts?

Republican President + Republican controlled house and senate was NOT anti-video games.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/01/16/obama-calls-for-government-funded-research-into-violent-video-games/#4f2e518951e0

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/04/03/sen-feinstein-blames-nra-gun-makers-for-derailing-assault-weapons-ban/

On 3 April 2013, Dianne Feinstein, a Californian senator and Democrat, spoke in San Francisco to a group of 500 constituents about gun violence. She said video games have "a very negative role for young people, and the industry ought to take note of that" and that Congress might have to step in if the video games industry did not cease to glorify gun

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/hillary-clinton-promotes-law-to-ban-violent-video-games-1.550126

U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton has fired another salvo in her battle against violent video games

You're a hypocrite.

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#87  Edited By Zaryia
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@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:
@SecretPolice said:

Prove "the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game". Where's your facts?

Republican President + Republican controlled house and senate was NOT anti-video game.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/01/16/obama-calls-for-government-funded-research-into-violent-video-games/#4f2e518951e0

You're a hypocrite.

1. Red-Herring. I said the current administration. You linked a 6 year old and 15 year old articles. And I agree with you, both sides were anti Video Game in the PAST. But CURRENTLY, it's the TRUMP administration and the GOP. CURRENTLY. I'm just stating facts bro.

Please learn to read our discussion before making foolish rebuttals,

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game, and only worrying about SJWs (who can't make laws) is silly.

2. Prove it? Where are my facts? Sure thing buddy!

LAST YEAR/S - https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/trump-white-house-violent-video-game-viral-1202722952/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo

https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games

THIS MONTH - https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/

GOP Lawmakers Debate Video Game ‘Sin Tax’ During State’s Esports Month - 2019

3. I'm not a hypocrite. If it was the Hillary Administration doing the same thing I would make the same point.

I'm not a hypocrite. I get that both sides have been anti-video game at times and for certain issues. I'm merely also showing the Trump White House put out anti-video game videos and blames them for every shooting to protect the NRA. And unlike them, twitter SJWs don't make legislation.

There is literally zero hypocrisy.

My point: GamingPlanet crying about SJWs, while the Trump administration, GOP, and NRA are much more powerful is an absolute joke. If it was the Hillary Administration doing the same thing I would make the same point.

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#88  Edited By Zaryia
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@ronvalencia said:

Republican President + Republican controlled house and senate was NOT anti-video games.

Yes it is lol. Stop bullshitting, Donald Duck is even on video saying it:

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/trump-white-house-violent-video-game-viral-1202722952/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo

https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games

https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/

Stop being so tribal. Both sides did it in the past, I never contested this fact. But currentlyone side is mostly doing it. One party's President. One party's mega group (NRA). It happens to be your cult...I mean party at the time being. Truth hurts.

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#89  Edited By ronvalencia
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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:
@SecretPolice said:

Prove "the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game". Where's your facts?

Republican President + Republican controlled house and senate was NOT anti-video game.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/01/16/obama-calls-for-government-funded-research-into-violent-video-games/#4f2e518951e0

You're a hypocrite.

1. Red-Herring. I said the current administration. You linked a 6 year old and 15 year old articles. And I agree with you, both sides were anti Video Game in the PAST. But CURRENTLY, it's the TRUMP administration and the GOP. CURRENTLY. Also, Obama's study wasn't strictly anti-video game if you read the article - you are better off finding old Hillary quotes as that wench was actually anti-games for a while. But still in the past, not currently.

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game, and only worrying about SJWs (who can't make laws) is silly.

2. Prove it? Where are my facts? Sure thing buddy!

LAST YEAR/S -https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/trump-white-house-violent-video-game-viral-1202722952/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo

https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games

THIS MONTH -https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/

GOP Lawmakers Debate Video Game ‘Sin Tax’ During State’s Esports Month - 2019

3. I'm not a hypocrite. If it was the Hillary Administration doing the same thing I would make the same point.

I'm not a hypocrite. I get that both sides have been anti-video game at times and for certain issues. I'm merely also showing the Trump White House put out anti-video game videos and blames them for every shooting to protect the NRA. And unlike them, twitter SJWs don't make legislation.

There is literally zero hypocrisy.

My point: GamingPlanet crying about SJWs, while the Trump administration, GOP, and NRA are much more powerful is an absolute joke. If it was the Hillary Administration doing the same thing I would make the same point.

1. It doesn't need the current government to impose censorship.

https://theralphretort.com/sjw-infested-bioware-getting-ripped-apart-gamers-terrible-mass-effect-andromeda-3027017/

You're a hypocrite.

2.

Read https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/

Rep. Christopher B. Quinn (R) first introduced a version of the bill in October 2018, but it died in committee.

Read the actual HOUSE BILL No.109 http://www.cqstatetrack.com/texis/redir?id=5c493f5ee141&rtype=text&original=y

INTRODUCED BY QUINN, HILL-EVANS AND NEILSON, JANUARY 28, 2019

QUINN = R

HILL-EVANS = D https://twitter.com/rephillevans?lang=en

NEILSON = D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Neilson Edward "Ed" Neilson is an American politician and member of the Democratic Party.

You're a hypocrite.

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1. It doesn't need the current government to impose censorship.

https://theralphretort.com/sjw-infested-bioware-getting-ripped-apart-gamers-terrible-mass-effect-andromeda-3027017/

You're a hypocrite.

2.

Read https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/

Rep. Christopher B. Quinn (R) first introduced a version of the bill in October 2018, but it died in committee.

1. I'M AGREEING WITH YOU WHAT IS GOING ON, I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES DID THIS.

I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP to an extent, including TRUMP, is anti-video game. You know, the guy in charge. Why would I whine about Hillary or Obama in response to Gamingplanet's post? I have no access to time travel.

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https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/trump-white-house-violent-video-game-viral-1202722952/

https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games

https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/

Mass Effect: Andromeda did not get low scores because it added SJW elements. It got low scores because it was bad. SJWs on twitter did not impact ME4.

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review/1900-6416638/

2. It doesn't matter if it died in committee. I said the GOP is anti-video game, and that bill proves it. I'm aware a handful of Dems are also still anti-video game. But there is no current Dem president. There is no Democrat group as big as NRA being super anti-VG in 2017-2019.

Quinn also pointed to a recent National Center for Health Research article that stated “studies have shown that playing violent video games can increase aggressive thoughts, behaviors, and feelings in both the short-term and long-term. Violent video games can also desensitize people to seeing aggressive behavior and decrease prosocial behaviors such as helping another person and feeling empathy (the ability to understand others). The longer that individuals are exposed to violent video games, the more likely they are to have aggressive behaviors, thoughts, and feelings.”

Of course, Quinn’s memo conveniently leaves out another section of the same article that makes a distinction between aggression and violence, and notes that there’s no clear evidence to support the assumption that increased aggression results in more acts of lethal violence or criminal behavior.

“It is important to keep in mind that violent video game exposure is only one risk factor of aggressive behavior,” the article said. “For example, mental illness, adverse environments, and access to guns are all risk factors of aggression and violence.”

WHAT HYPOCRISY!? I'm just stating the fact that Trump, GOP, and NRA are anti-video game to a degree. Facts are facts. Facts > Feelings.

My point is SJWs shouldn't be the only or even biggest concern. And it looks like you agree, especially hearing Trump's and the NRA's dumbfuck comments on video games.

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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

1. It doesn't need the current government to impose censorship.

https://theralphretort.com/sjw-infested-bioware-getting-ripped-apart-gamers-terrible-mass-effect-andromeda-3027017/

You're a hypocrite.

2.

Read https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/

Rep. Christopher B. Quinn (R) first introduced a version of the bill in October 2018, but it died in committee.

1. I'M AGREEING WITH YOU WHAT IS GOING ON, I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES DID THIS.

I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP to an extent, including TRUMP, is anti-video game. FACT. 100% Fact.

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/trump-white-house-violent-video-game-viral-1202722952/

https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games

https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/

Mass Effect: Andromeda did not get low scores because it added SJW elements. It got low scores because it was bad. SJWs on twitter did not impact ME4.

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review/1900-6416638/

2. It doesn't matter if it died in committee. I said the GOP is anti-video game, and that bill proves it.

Quinn also pointed to a recent National Center for Health Research article that stated “studies have shown that playing violent video games can increase aggressive thoughts, behaviors, and feelings in both the short-term and long-term. Violent video games can also desensitize people to seeing aggressive behavior and decrease prosocial behaviors such as helping another person and feeling empathy (the ability to understand others). The longer that individuals are exposed to violent video games, the more likely they are to have aggressive behaviors, thoughts, and feelings.”

Of course, Quinn’s memo conveniently leaves out another section of the same article that makes a distinction between aggression and violence, and notes that there’s no clear evidence to support the assumption that increased aggression results in more acts of lethal violence or criminal behavior.

“It is important to keep in mind that violent video game exposure is only one risk factor of aggressive behavior,” the article said. “For example, mental illness, adverse environments, and access to guns are all risk factors of aggression and violence.”

WHAT HYPOCRISY!? I'm just stating the fact that Trump, GOP, and NRA are anti-video game to a degree. Facts are facts. Facts > Feelings.

My point is SJWs shouldn't be the only or even biggest concern. And it looks like you agree, especially hearing Trump's dumbfuck comments on video games.

You argued

Red-Herring. I said the current administration. You linked a 6 year old and 15 year old articles. And I agree with you, both sides were anti Video Game in the PAST. But CURRENTLY, it's the TRUMP administration and the GOP

You used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link that omitted the Democrats from it.

The real HOUSE BILL No.109 http://www.cqstatetrack.com/texis/redir?id=5c493f5ee141&rtype=text&original=y

INTRODUCED BY QUINN, HILL-EVANS AND NEILSON, JANUARY 28, 2019

QUINN = Republican

HILL-EVANS = Democrat https://twitter.com/rephillevans?lang=en

NEILSON = Democrat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_NeilsonEdward "Ed" Neilson is an American politician and member of the Democratic Party.

Your argument is the dumbfucks that omitted Democrats from the real HOUSE BILL No.109.

You're a hypocrite.

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@ronvalencia said:

You argued

Red-Herring. I said the current administration. You linked a 6 year old and 15 year old articles. And I agree with you, both sides were anti Video Game in the PAST. But CURRENTLY, it's the TRUMP administration and the GOP

1. You are low IQ. You keep using hypocrite incorrectly. I agree with you both sides do this and I never stated otherwise.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite

Please explain what I stated which was contradictory. I agreed both sides are anti-video game. I'm merely stating politicians are a bigger threat than SJWs, and the top politician - Trump - happens to be anti video game. It is currently a Republican Administration in the White House. As well as other GOP members, and the all powerful NRA. What I stated is still a fact.

This comment

Red-Herring. I said the current administration. You linked a 6 year old and 15 year old articles. And I agree with you, both sides were anti Video Game in the PAST. But CURRENTLY, it's the TRUMP administration and the GOP

Is 100% correct,

2. Trump's comments are my biggest evidence, which you conveniently keep ignoring, because they proved me correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html

3. NRA's comments, because they proved me correct. Which you keep ignoring.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games

4. Quinn's comments, because they proved me correct. GOP members are also currently anti-video game, along with the Trump, The Trump Administration, and the NRA.

Quinn also pointed to a recent National Center for Health Research article that stated “studies have shown that playing violent video games can increase aggressive thoughts, behaviors, and feelings in both the short-term and long-term. Violent video games can also desensitize people to seeing aggressive behavior and decrease prosocial behaviors such as helping another person and feeling empathy (the ability to understand others). The longer that individuals are exposed to violent video games, the more likely they are to have aggressive behaviors, thoughts, and feelings.”

Of course, Quinn’s memo conveniently leaves out another section of the same article that makes a distinction between aggression and violence, and notes that there’s no clear evidence to support the assumption that increased aggression results in more acts of lethal violence or criminal behavior.

5. I never said only the GOP has been anti-video game. The Variety article left out the Dems because they apparently didn't have a silly memo to quote.

My point is SJWs shouldn't be the only or even biggest concern. And it looks like you agree, especially hearing Trump's, Quinn's, and the NRA's dumbfuck comments on video games. That's not hypocritical. That's a fact.

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@zaryia: Note that Dianne Feinstein is still a Californian senator and Democrat.

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/04/03/sen-feinstein-blames-nra-gun-makers-for-derailing-assault-weapons-ban/

On 3 April 2013, Dianne Feinstein, a Californian senator and Democrat, spoke in San Francisco to a group of 500 constituents about gun violence. She said video games have "a very negative role for young people, and the industry ought to take note of that" and that Congress might have to step in if the video games industry did not cease to glorify gun

Democrats has control over the house of Reps, hence they are technically in government since they control what's in the supply bill.

In other countries like Australian Federal government and other Commonwealth countries, the government of the day will be controlling what's in the supply bills. Trump has very little control over the supply bills.

Your a hypocrite.

1st House control: Democrats (with control over what's in the supply bills).

2nd Senate control: Republican

3rd President control: Republican with ex-Democrat protectionist (socialist) view points. In other Commonwealth countries, Governor General position is nearly similar to US President.

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@ronvalencia said:

1st House control: Democrats (with control over what's in the supply bills).

2nd Senate control: Republican

3rd President control: Republican with ex-Democrat protectionist (socialist) view points. In other Commonwealth countries, Governor General position is nearly similar to US President.

This isn't relevant. I'm stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, GOP members, and the NRA are anti-video game. Most of their anti-video game comments were made when GOP controlled the House.

There is nothing hypocritical about stating this fact.

SJWs aren't the most of our worries.

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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

@zaryia: Note that Dianne Feinstein is still a Californian senator and Democrat.

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/04/03/sen-feinstein-blames-nra-gun-makers-for-derailing-assault-weapons-ban/

On 3 April 2013, Dianne Feinstein, a Californian senator and Democrat, spoke in San Francisco to a group of 500 constituents about gun violence. She said video games have "a very negative role for young people, and the industry ought to take note of that" and that Congress might have to step in if the video games industry did not cease to glorify gun

This isn't 2013. This is 2019, and we are in the current Trump administration. I wasn't going to respond to Gameplanet's reply with a time machine post. That wouldn't make sense.

Please try to be logical.

@ronvalencia said:

1st House control: Democrats (with control over what's in the supply bills).

2nd Senate control: Republican

3rd President control: Republican with ex-Democrat protectionist (socialist) view points. In other Commonwealth countries, Governor General position is nearly similar to US President.

This isn't relevant. I'm stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, GOP members, and the NRA are anti-video game.

There is nothing hypocritical about stating this fact.

Again, you used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link that omitted the Democrats from it.

The real HOUSE BILL No.109 http://www.cqstatetrack.com/texis/redir?id=5c493f5ee141&rtype=text&original=y

INTRODUCED BY QUINN, HILL-EVANS AND NEILSON, JANUARY 28, 2019

QUINN = Republican

HILL-EVANS = Democrat https://twitter.com/rephillevans?lang=en

NEILSON = Democrat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_NeilsonEdward "Ed" Neilson is an American politician and member of the Democratic Party.

Your argument is the dumbfucks that omitted Democrats from the real HOUSE BILL No.109.

You're a hypocrite.

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@ronvalencia said:Again, you used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link that omitted the Democrats from it.

I explicitly agreed that both sides do this. Stop this straw man-argument. I addressed this. Variety ignored them because they didn't write the memo they quoted. Quinn did. But that in no way hurts my argument,

I'm simply stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, several GOP politicians, and many conservatives - especially in the NRA are anti-video game. Your dear cult leaders don't like your hobby. And you keep ignoring this main point like I didn't type it. I know you see this text.

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Evidence for my claims:

@zaryia said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html

https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games

http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting

Facts are facts. Nothing I wrote is wrong.

And please stop using the word hypocritical incorrectly, it's annoying. Nothing I said has been hypocritical. Take an English course.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocritical

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@zaryia said:

Mass Effect: Andromeda did not get low scores because it added SJW elements. It got low scores because it was bad. SJWs on twitter did not impact ME4.

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review/1900-6416638/

A reminder from Mass Effect Andromeda's lead game designer https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/233/879/c9d.jpg This person was fired from Bioware after Mass Effect: Andromeda was released.

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@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:

Mass Effect: Andromeda did not get low scores because it added SJW elements. It got low scores because it was bad. SJWs on twitter did not impact ME4.

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review/1900-6416638/

A reminder from Mass Effect Andromeda's lead game designer https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/233/879/c9d.jpg

This has nothing to do with why the game flopped. Going by Gamespot and Metacritic reviews. Are you ever tired of constantly spamming red-herrings and losing debates?

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review/1900-6416638/

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-andromeda

I see no mention of a low score because a Female NPC has a slightly less attractive face or that you can have gay sex.

I 100% stand by my original comment. Nutjob Politicians (like Trump) and insane lobbyists (NRA) are a bigger threat than a bunch of tweeting snowflakes. That's just dumb to think otherwise. Although tbh, Trump is also a tweeting snowflake.

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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

1st House control: Democrats (with control over what's in the supply bills).

2nd Senate control: Republican

3rd President control: Republican with ex-Democrat protectionist (socialist) view points. In other Commonwealth countries, Governor General position is nearly similar to US President.

This isn't relevant. I'm stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, GOP members, and the NRA are anti-video game. Most of their anti-video game comments were made when GOP controlled the House.

There is nothing hypocritical about stating this fact.

SJWs aren't the most of our worries.

You know what the fun part is that when video games were no here at all in any form US was still a violent country to live in,if you were black you would be persecuted abused or kill,if you were another minority as well.

Slavery,gun violence,killings all that have existed for hundreds of years in north america before the video games,blaming video games for shootings is as stupid and low as some one could get,but since this is coming from the government one my expect it,they run the world on lies and on 2019 more than 500 years after Columbus people can still win an election using racism and hate,which proves that we may have evolve from monkeys but not where it count the most.

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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:

Mass Effect: Andromeda did not get low scores because it added SJW elements. It got low scores because it was bad. SJWs on twitter did not impact ME4.

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review/1900-6416638/

A reminder from Mass Effect Andromeda's lead game designer https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/233/879/c9d.jpg

This has nothing to do with why the game flopped. Going by Gamespot and Metacritic reviews. Are you ever tired of constantly spamming red-herrings and losing debates?

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review/1900-6416638/

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-andromeda

I see no mention of a low score because a Female NPC has a slightly less attractive face or that you can have gay sex.

I 100% stand by my original comment. Nutjob Politicians (like Trump) and insane lobbyists (NRA) are a bigger threat than a bunch of tweeting snowflakes. That's just dumb to think otherwise. Although tbh, Trump is also a tweeting snowflake.

You used an article that omitted Democacts from the actual BILL. You are a hypocrite.