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#101  Edited By ronvalencia
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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:Again, you used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link that omitted the Democrats from it.

I explicitly agreed that both sides do this. Stop this straw man-argument. I addressed this. Variety ignored them because they didn't write the memo they quoted. Quinn did. But that in no way hurts my argument,

I'm simply stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, several GOP politicians, and many conservatives - especially in the NRA are anti-video game. Your dear cult leaders don't like your hobby. And you keep ignoring this main point like I didn't type it. I know you see this text.

Evidence for my claims:

@zaryia said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html

https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games

http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting

Facts are facts. Nothing I wrote is wrong.

And please stop using the word hypocritical incorrectly, it's annoying. Nothing I said has been hypocritical. Take an English course.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocritical

1. You argued

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game

You then used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link that omitted the Democrats from it.

The real HOUSE BILL No.109 http://www.cqstatetrack.com/texis/redir?id=5c493f5ee141&rtype=text&original=y

INTRODUCED BY QUINN, HILL-EVANS AND NEILSON, JANUARY 28, 2019

QUINN = Republican

HILL-EVANS = Democrat https://twitter.com/rephillevans?lang=en

NEILSON = Democrat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_NeilsonEdward "Ed" Neilson is an American politician and member of the Democratic Party.

Your argument is built on a lie that omitted Democrats from the real HOUSE BILL No.109.

You complained about "you linked a 6 year old and 15 year old articles." when Dianne Feinstein is a current Californian Democrat senator.

You're a hypocrite i.e. blame GOP , omitted Democrats while two Democrats sponsored the same HOUSE BILL No.109.

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#102  Edited By ronvalencia
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@tormentos said:
@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

1st House control: Democrats (with control over what's in the supply bills).

2nd Senate control: Republican

3rd President control: Republican with ex-Democrat protectionist (socialist) view points. In other Commonwealth countries, Governor General position is nearly similar to US President.

This isn't relevant. I'm stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, GOP members, and the NRA are anti-video game. Most of their anti-video game comments were made when GOP controlled the House.

There is nothing hypocritical about stating this fact.

SJWs aren't the most of our worries.

You know what the fun part is that when video games were no here at all in any form US was still a violent country to live in,if you were black you would be persecuted abused or kill,if you were another minority as well.

Slavery,gun violence,killings all that have existed for hundreds of years in north america before the video games,blaming video games for shootings is as stupid and low as some one could get,but since this is coming from the government one my expect it,they run the world on lies and on 2019 more than 500 years after Columbus people can still win an election using racism and hate,which proves that we may have evolve from monkeys but not where it count the most.

1. Black slavery ownership issue contributed into US civil war trigger with Republican majority north vs Democrat majority south.

2. Trump's argument with the wall is about illegal "queue jumpers". Trump admin boot out real "white" Nazis back to Germany.

3. Islam is not race.

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Another Patent filed by sony that deals with BC for PS5

https://gearnuke.com/new-potential-ps5-backward-compatibility-patent-filed-by-sony-tries-to-emulate-bus-operation-of-legacy-devices/

Its over ps5 will have BC and will crush everything with its legacy software at launch who needs a ps4 when you have a ps5 think about it ps4 is useless once the ps5 comes out

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#104  Edited By Zaryia
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@ronvalencia said:

You're a hypocrite i.e. blame GOP , omitted Democrats while two Democrats sponsored the same HOUSE BILL No.109.

Straw-man argument. Not once did I say Democrats were absolved of anti-video game sentiment, and I several times stated both sides do this.

I'm mostly examining the right wing because they been the most vocal and numerous on this issue by far over the last two years (IE: Both sides have their anti-cannabis loons, but mostly the GOP). The GOP have picked up on this issue and currently use it as a scapegoat on Gun Violence, while most Dems have dropped this topic years ago. Nothing that effects us now. Also, the poster I originally quoted is clearly right leaning - and I wanted to show HIM how he was being hypocritical by complaining about SJWs when his "team" is more of a threat currently.

I'm simply stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, several GOP politicians, and many conservatives - especially in the NRA are anti-video game recently. Your dear cult leaders don't like your hobby. And you keep ignoring this main point like I didn't type it. I know you see this text.

Citation to these confirmed facts if anyone is being bamboozled by your Red-Herring: All Recent as I've mentioned,

  • Republican White House Administration https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/
  • Republican President Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo
  • Republican Betsy Devos https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/5/betsy-devos-school-safety-commission-will-consider/
  • Republican President Donald https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html
  • Republican Oliver North https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games
  • Republican NRA http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/
  • Republican Rep. Brian Mast https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting
  • Republican "Media Research Center" https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/media-research-center/
  • Republican Rep. Vicky Hartzle https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican SenMarco Rubio (R-FL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

All within the last two years. However, this doesn't mean Dems do not also share these opinions. I'm aware a few still do. Please understand I know this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

IE: If I state "Right wing terrorism had 219 incidents from 1992 to 2018". You can't say "You're A HYPOCRITE, LEFT WING HAD SOME (23) TOO from 1992 to 2018! That was never part of my argument and this red-herring doesn't refute my original statement. I never disagreed with such a fact, It just wasn't part of my point. That isn't how debating works.

You then used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link that omitted the Democrats from it.

Variety omitted the Democrat Representatives because they didn't write the detailed Memo on video games and are not nearly as vocal about it. Republican Quinn did and is. That isn't' my fault and I'm sorry they did this. However, this in no way changes my claim from being true.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

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@ronvalencia said:
@tormentos said:

You know what the fun part is that when video games were no here at all in any form US was still a violent country to live in,if you were black you would be persecuted abused or kill,if you were another minority as well.

Slavery,gun violence,killings all that have existed for hundreds of years in north america before the video games,blaming video games for shootings is as stupid and low as some one could get,but since this is coming from the government one my expect it,they run the world on lies and on 2019 more than 500 years after Columbus people can still win an election using racism and hate,which proves that we may have evolve from monkeys but not where it count the most.

1. Black slavery ownership issue contributed into US civil war trigger with Republican majority north vs Democrat majority south.

The parties loosely switched. Southern Democrats are modern day Republicans. And they switched due to racial reasons, in part.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

https://www.history.com/news/how-the-party-of-lincoln-won-over-the-once-democratic-south

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Another Patent filed by sony that deals with BC for PS5

https://gearnuke.com/new-potential-ps5-backward-compatibility-patent-filed-by-sony-tries-to-emulate-bus-operation-of-legacy-devices/

Its over ps5 will have BC and will crush everything with its legacy software at launch who needs a ps4 when you have a ps5 think about it ps4 is useless once the ps5 comes out

Looking more and more likely that PS4 will dominate.

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#107  Edited By ronvalencia
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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:
@tormentos said:

You know what the fun part is that when video games were no here at all in any form US was still a violent country to live in,if you were black you would be persecuted abused or kill,if you were another minority as well.

Slavery,gun violence,killings all that have existed for hundreds of years in north america before the video games,blaming video games for shootings is as stupid and low as some one could get,but since this is coming from the government one my expect it,they run the world on lies and on 2019 more than 500 years after Columbus people can still win an election using racism and hate,which proves that we may have evolve from monkeys but not where it count the most.

1. Black slavery ownership issue contributed into US civil war trigger with Republican majority north vs Democrat majority south.

The parties loosely switched. Southern Democrats are modern day Republicans. And they switched due to racial reasons, in part.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

https://www.history.com/news/how-the-party-of-lincoln-won-over-the-once-democratic-south

Wrong. Leftist has race bias socialism.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-thanks-to-ilhan-omar-u-s-jews-just-got-their-corbyn-moment-1.6931177

---

https://youtu.be/B9vfiv-UOsM?t=242 FBI Statistics Say Reverse Racism is Real | And It's Just Called Racism

SOURCES: FBI: https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/topic-pages/offenders

FBI TABLE 1: https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/tables/table-1

FBI TABLE 3: https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/tables/table-3

FBI TABLE 21a: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21

---

https://nypost.com/2017/05/31/college-melts-down-over-plan-for-white-people-free-day-on-campus/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/03/01/a-group-demanded-a-space-for-students-of-color-now-they-say-theyre-being-called-racists/?utm_term=.51659c47ee33

Leftist push for "safe space for a racial group", "a day without a particular racial group" and other special treatment/rules/laws for different racial groups are another Jim Crow laws/segregation/apartheid. Leftist push for applying "white guilt" on this generation is racist. I wonder who is the real Nazi.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/news/2017/12/18/444235/resilient-power-black-community/ <---- race bias socialism advocacy.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/news/2018/05/24/451244/latinas-leveraging-power-resistance/ <---- race bias socialism advocacy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/10/us/politics/george-soros-and-other-liberal-donors-to-fund-bid-to-spur-latino-voters.html <---- race bias socialism advocacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_American_Progress

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-left-is-consumed-with-hate-1537723198

For many on the left a hateful anti-Americanism has become a self-congratulatory lifestyle. “America was never that great,” New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo recently said. For radical groups like Black Lives Matter, hatred of America is a theme of identity, a display of racial pride.

Race neutrality test is simple i.e. any policy with a race bias is racist.

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@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:
@tormentos said:

You know what the fun part is that when video games were no here at all in any form US was still a violent country to live in,if you were black you would be persecuted abused or kill,if you were another minority as well.

Slavery,gun violence,killings all that have existed for hundreds of years in north america before the video games,blaming video games for shootings is as stupid and low as some one could get,but since this is coming from the government one my expect it,they run the world on lies and on 2019 more than 500 years after Columbus people can still win an election using racism and hate,which proves that we may have evolve from monkeys but not where it count the most.

1. Black slavery ownership issue contributed into US civil war trigger with Republican majority north vs Democrat majority south.

The parties loosely switched. Southern Democrats are modern day Republicans. And they switched due to racial reasons, in part.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

https://www.history.com/news/how-the-party-of-lincoln-won-over-the-once-democratic-south

Wrong. Leftist has race bias socialism.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-thanks-to-ilhan-omar-u-s-jews-just-got-their-corbyn-moment-1.6931177

---

https://youtu.be/B9vfiv-UOsM?t=242 FBI Statistics Say Reverse Racism is Real | And It's Just Called Racism

SOURCES: FBI: https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/topic-pages/offenders

FBI TABLE 1: https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/tables/table-1

FBI TABLE 3: https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2016/tables/table-3

FBI TABLE 21a: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21

---

https://nypost.com/2017/05/31/college-melts-down-over-plan-for-white-people-free-day-on-campus/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/03/01/a-group-demanded-a-space-for-students-of-color-now-they-say-theyre-being-called-racists/?utm_term=.51659c47ee33

Leftist push for "safe space for a racial group", "a day without a particular racial group" and other special treatment/rules/laws for different racial groups are another Jim Crow laws/segregation/apartheid. Leftist push for applying "white guilt" on this generation is racist. I wonder who is the real Nazi.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/news/2017/12/18/444235/resilient-power-black-community/ <---- race bias socialism advocacy.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/news/2018/05/24/451244/latinas-leveraging-power-resistance/ <---- race bias socialism advocacy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/10/us/politics/george-soros-and-other-liberal-donors-to-fund-bid-to-spur-latino-voters.html <---- race bias socialism advocacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_American_Progress

Race neutrality test is simple i.e. any policy with a race bias is racist.

Not a single one of your links has anything to do with my factual claim, nor do they refute it. This is incredible. Your entire post was completely off-topic to the response I just gave. You do this in almost every thread.

What is your first language? What country do you live in? There is no way you completely understand English.

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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

You're a hypocrite i.e. blame GOP , omitted Democrats while two Democrats sponsored the same HOUSE BILL No.109.

Straw-man argument. Not once did I say Democrats were absolved of anti-video game sentiment, and I several times stated both sides do this.

I'm mostly examining the right wing because they been the most vocal and numerous on this issue by far over the last two years (IE: Both sides have their anti-cannabis loons, but mostly the GOP). The GOP have picked up on this issue and currently use it as a scapegoat on Gun Violence, while most Dems have dropped this topic years ago. Nothing that effects us now. Also, the poster I originally quoted is clearly right leaning - and I wanted to show HIM how he was being hypocritical by complaining about SJWs when his "team" is more of a threat currently.

I'm simply stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, several GOP politicians, and many conservatives - especially in the NRA are anti-video game recently. Your dear cult leaders don't like your hobby. And you keep ignoring this main point like I didn't type it. I know you see this text.

Citation to these confirmed facts if anyone is being bamboozled by your Red-Herring: All Recent as I've mentioned,

  • Republican White House Administration https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/
  • Republican President Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo
  • Republican Betsy Devos https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/5/betsy-devos-school-safety-commission-will-consider/
  • Republican President Donald https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html
  • Republican Oliver North https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games
  • Republican NRA http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/
  • Republican Rep. Brian Mast https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting
  • Republican "Media Research Center" https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/media-research-center/
  • Republican Rep. Vicky Hartzle https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican SenMarco Rubio (R-FL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

All within the last two years. However, this doesn't mean Dems do not also share these opinions. I'm aware a few still do. Please understand I know this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

IE: If I state "Right wing terrorism had 219 incidents from 1992 to 2018". You can't say "You're A HYPOCRITE, LEFT WING HAD SOME (23) TOO from 1992 to 2018! That was never part of my argument and this red-herring doesn't refute my original statement. I never disagreed with such a fact, It just wasn't part of my point. That isn't how debating works.

You then used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link that omitted the Democrats from it.

Variety omitted the Democrat Representatives because they didn't write the detailed Memo on video games and are not nearly as vocal about it. Republican Quinn did and is. That isn't' my fault and I'm sorry they did this. However, this in no way changes my claim from being true.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

1. Again, you argued

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game

You then used multiple https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ like links that omitted the Democrats from it.

Your

Republican White House Administration https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/

Republican President Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo

Republican Betsy Devos https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/5/betsy-devos-school-safety-commission-will-consider/

Republican President Donald https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html

Republican Oliver North https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games

Republican NRA http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/

Republican Rep. Brian Mast https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting

Republican "Media Research Center" https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/media-research-center/

Republican Rep. Vicky Hartzle https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

Republican Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

Republican Sen Marco Rubio (R-FL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

links repeats the same news.

The real HOUSE BILL No.109 http://www.cqstatetrack.com/texis/redir?id=5c493f5ee141&rtype=text&original=y

INTRODUCED BY QUINN, HILL-EVANS AND NEILSON, JANUARY 28, 2019

QUINN = Republican

HILL-EVANS = Democrat https://twitter.com/rephillevans?lang=en

NEILSON = Democrat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_NeilsonEdward "Ed" Neilson is an American politician and member of the Democratic Party.

Your argument is built on a lie that omitted Democrats from the real HOUSE BILL No.109.

You complained about "you linked a 6 year old and 15 year old articles." when Dianne Feinstein is a current Californian Democrat senator.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/dianne-feinstein-video-games_n_3016703.html Dianne Feinstein is still current Californian Democrat senator.

NANCY PELOSI SUGGESTS SHE HAS EQUAL POWER TO DONALD TRUMP

Current U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer, https://www.schumer.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/schumer-calls-on-apple-to-raise-age-restriction-on-new-hypocritical-and-tasteless-nra-shoot-em-up-app-for-iphone-currently-recommended-for-kids-4-and-up

You're a hypocrite i.e. blame GOP , omitted Democrats while two Democrats sponsored the same HOUSE BILL No.109.

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@ronvalencia said:

Your argument is built on a lie that omitted Democrats from the real HOUSE BILL No.109.

Dude. Are you even reading my posts? Do you understand English? WTF!?

I agree with you on that Bill,

"Not once did I say Democrats were absolved of anti-video game sentiment, and I several times stated both sides do this."

My entire point is that over the last 2 years it's mostly been GOP, and Gamingplanet made a right wing post so I responded with right wing examples. Not that there was 0 Dems. C'mon man. Are you brain dead? I never stated there was 0 anti-gaming Dems.

Over the last 2 year's it's mostly been the Republicans with anti-video game views. I've proven this fact time and time again,

  • Republican White House Administration https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/
  • Republican President Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo
  • Republican Betsy Devos https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/5/betsy-devos-school-safety-commission-will-consider/
  • Republican President Donald https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html
  • Republican Oliver North https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games
  • Republican NRA http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/
  • Republican Rep. Brian Mast https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting
  • Republican "Media Research Center" https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/media-research-center/
  • Republican Rep. Vicky Hartzle https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican SenMarco Rubio (R-FL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

You're such a fucking liar. All you do is post straw-man arguments at this site because I caught you hard. The current Trump White House and several of his GOP allies are anti-video game, keep spinning.

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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

Your argument is built on a lie that omitted Democrats from the real HOUSE BILL No.109.

Dude. Are you even reading my posts? Do you understand English? WTF!?

"Not once did I say Democrats were absolved of anti-video game sentiment, and I several times stated both sides do this."

I NEVER said Dems don't do this, I didn't LIE. My entire point is that over the last 2 years it's mostly been GOP, and Gamingplanet made a right wing post so I responded with right wing examples. Not that there was 0 Dems. C'mon man. Are you brain dead? Can you speak English? Are you ignoring my statements that I'm aware Democrats to a much smaller degree also have anti-video game sentiment? I'm aware of this. But that isn't what I was trying to show.

I've proven this fact time and time again,

  • Republican White House Administration https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/
  • Republican President Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo
  • Republican Betsy Devos https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/5/betsy-devos-school-safety-commission-will-consider/
  • Republican President Donald https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html
  • Republican Oliver North https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games
  • Republican NRA http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/
  • Republican Rep. Brian Mast https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting
  • Republican "Media Research Center" https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/media-research-center/
  • Republican Rep. Vicky Hartzle https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican SenMarco Rubio (R-FL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

Over the last 2 year's it's mostly been the Republicans with anti-video game views. Very very few Democrats. The reasons for this have a lot to do with the gun control debate. This made gamingplanet's anti-SJW post rather hypocritical. That's all. Relax.

Again, you argued

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game - quoting from zaryia

deal with it.

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CurrentU.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer, https://www.schumer.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/schumer-calls-on-apple-to-raise-age-restriction-on-new-hypocritical-and-tasteless-nra-shoot-em-up-app-for-iphone-currently-recommended-for-kids-4-and-up

You're a hypocrite i.e. blame GOP , omitted Democrats while two Democrats sponsored the same HOUSE BILL No.109.

Proper news reporting example https://www.newsweek.com/school-stabbing-scissors-student-violence-1332555 that didn't omit Democrats from HOUSE BILL No.109.

http://realnewsrightnow.com/2015/03/obama-key-democrats-to-introduce-legislation-banning-30-round-magazines-in-video-games/

Obama and Dianne Feinstein bill. Dianne Feinstein is still in office.

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@ronvalencia said:gamingplanet's anti-SJW post rather hypocritical. That's all. Relax.

Again, you argued

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game - quoting from zaryia

deal with it.

Deal with what, that quote is 100% correct....

  • Republican White House Administration https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/
  • Republican President Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo
  • Republican Betsy Devos https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/5/betsy-devos-school-safety-commission-will-consider/
  • Republican President Donald https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html
  • Republican Oliver North https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games
  • Republican NRA http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/
  • Republican Rep. Brian Mast https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting
  • Republican "Media Research Center" https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/media-research-center/
  • Republican Rep. Vicky Hartzle https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican SenMarco Rubio (R-FL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

The current administration and the GOP is anti-video game...

What is wrong with that sentence? It's factually correct.

Current U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer, https://www.schumer.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/schumer-calls-on-apple-to-raise-age-restriction-on-new-hypocritical-and-tasteless-nra-shoot-em-up-app-for-iphone-currently-recommended-for-kids-4-and-up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein

Both of those were 4-6 years ago. Neither of those 2 have had that same sentiment in years. All of my links are 1-2 years old and more numerous. It's mostly the GOP and Trump recently. Very very few Dems.

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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:gamingplanet's anti-SJW post rather hypocritical. That's all. Relax.

Again, you argued

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game - quoting from zaryia

deal with it.

The current administration and the GOP is anti-video game...

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@zaryia said:

What is wrong with that sentence? It's factually correct.

Current U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer, https://www.schumer.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/schumer-calls-on-apple-to-raise-age-restriction-on-new-hypocritical-and-tasteless-nra-shoot-em-up-app-for-iphone-currently-recommended-for-kids-4-and-up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein

That was 6 years ago. All of my links are 1-2 years old. I said current views and within the last 2 years. It's mostly the GOP and Trump. Very few Dems.

Both Feinstein and Schumer currently still in office.

@zaryia said:

My statements in response to Gamingplanet are completely valid and true, and not hypocritical.

You used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link to backed your argument which omitted the Democrats from it.

Your argument is hypocritical.

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Both Feinstein and Schumer currently still in office.

Irrelevant, those bills are 4-6 years old. Also straw-man, I never said Dems don't do this.

The Republican Party is the main party which currently holds anti-video game views (in an attempt to back the NRA) far more than the Dems (in an attempt to blame the NRA more). I'm sure it was different in the past, but I do not have a time-machine. That's not to say a few Dems don't still fight video games, ofcourse a small number still do!

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All of my links proving this are 0-2 year old statements and quotes. A majority of the current anti-video game sentiment in politics is from the Trump Administration and GOP.

  • Republican White House Administration https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/
  • Republican President Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo
  • Republican Betsy Devos https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/5/betsy-devos-school-safety-commission-will-consider/
  • Republican President Donald https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html
  • Republican Oliver North https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games
  • Republican NRA http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/
  • Republican Rep. Brian Mast https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting
  • Republican "Media Research Center" https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/media-research-center/
  • Republican Rep. Vicky Hartzle https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • RepublicanMarkwayne Mullen
  • Republican Jeff Sessions https://psmag.com/news/jeff-sessions-reveals-the-department-of-justices-cluelessness-on-gun-violence
  • Republican Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican SenMarco Rubio (R-FL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

I'm simply stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, several GOP politicians, and many conservatives - especially in the NRA are anti-video game recently. Your dear cult leaders don't like your hobby.

@ronvalencia said:

You used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link to backed your argument which omitted the Democrats from it.

Your argument is hypocritical.

Irrelevant, I never said Dems never did this. I was just trying to show Republican have a anti-video game sentiment. I wasn't making a numerical comparison at that point until you started that straw-man. I'll gladly apologize if it came off as hypocrisy. It doesn't change my point, or the facts I've listed. The Variety link only quotes Quinn because he was more vocal about it and wrote the main memos about it. Not my fault - nor relevant to my claim.

IE: If I state "Right wing terrorism had 219 incidents from 1992 to 2018". You can't say "You're A HYPOCRITE, LEFT WING HAD SOME (23) TOO from 1992 to 2018! That was never part of my argument and this red-herring which doesn't refute my original statement. I never disagreed with such a fact, It just wasn't part of my point. That isn't how debating works.

(P.S. Why does it feel like I'm an English teacher whenever I reply to you.)

Conclusion: Whining about California SJWs on video-games and not making a peep about Trump/GOP/NRA on video-games over the last few years is DUMB AS SHIT.

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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

Both Feinstein and Schumer currently still in office.

Irrelevant, those bills are 4-6 years old.

The Republican Party is the main party which currently holds anti-video game views (in an attempt to back the NRA) far more than the Dems (in an attempt to blame the NRA more). I'm sure it was different in the past, but I do not have a time-machine. That's not to say a few Dems don't still fight video games, ofcourse a small number still do!

All of my links proving this are 0-2 year old statements and quotes. A majority of the current anti-video game sentiment in politics is from the Trump Administration and GOP.

  • Republican White House Administration https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/
  • Republican President Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo
  • Republican Betsy Devos https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/5/betsy-devos-school-safety-commission-will-consider/
  • Republican President Donald https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html
  • Republican Oliver North https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games
  • Republican NRA http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/
  • Republican Rep. Brian Mast https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting
  • Republican "Media Research Center" https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/media-research-center/
  • Republican Rep. Vicky Hartzle https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican SenMarco Rubio (R-FL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

I'm simply stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, several GOP politicians, and many conservatives - especially in the NRA are anti-video game recently. Your dear cult leaders don't like your hobby.

Irrelevant, I never said Dems never did this. I was just trying to show Republican have a anti-video game sentiment. I wasn't making a numerical comparison at that point until you started that straw-man. I'll gladly apologize if it came off as hypocrisy. It doesn't change my point, or the facts I've listed. The Variety link only quotes Quinn because he was more vocal about it and wrote the main memos about it. Not my fault - nor relevant to my claim.

IE: If I state "Right wing terrorism had 219 incidents from 1992 to 2018". You can't say "You're A HYPOCRITE, LEFT WING HAD SOME (23) TOO from 1992 to 2018! That was never part of my argument and this red-herring which doesn't refute my original statement. I never disagreed with such a fact, It just wasn't part of my point. That isn't how debating works.

(P.S. Why does it feel like I'm an English teacher whenever I reply to you.)

Conclusion: Whining about California SJWs on video-games and not making a peep about Trump/GOP/NRA on video-games over the last few years is DUMB AS SHIT.

Without the use Presidential's executive order, federal legislation creation is at House of Representatives and the Democrats controls this government house.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives

The House is charged with the passage of federal legislation, known as bills, which, after concurrence by the Senate, are sent to the President for consideration.

This is US civil school basics 101.

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@ronvalencia said:

Without the use Presidential's executive order, federal legislation creation is at House of Representatives and the Democrats controls this government house.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives

The House is charged with the passage of federal legislation, known as bills, which, after concurrence by the Senate, are sent to the President for consideration.

This is US civil school basics 101.

Yes. I've known these facts since I was in grade-school (in USA, unlike you). But what does this have to do with anything? This is a complete subject change and goal post move. Do you understand English?

Here is my original and main claim:

The Republican Party (your boy Trump included) currentlyhold anti-video game views.

I've proven this claim to be true until shown otherwise.

Oh and,

@ronvalencia said:

Without the use Presidential's executive order,

Not that your post has anything to do with anything in this thread, but I'll touch on it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Donald_Trump

Donald Trump (2017–present)[edit]

Further information: List of executive actions by Donald Trump

YearFirstLastTotal
2017137651381955
2018138201385637
201913857138604
Total137651386096

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@zaryia said:

Irrelevant, I never said Dems never did this. I was just trying to show Republican have a anti-video game sentiment.

This is why you're a hypocrite since you omitted certain Democrat politicians agreeing with this issue.

Again, you used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link to backed your argument which omitted the Democrats from it. Deal with it.

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@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:

Irrelevant, I never said Dems never did this. I was just trying to show Republican have a anti-video game sentiment.

This is why you're a hypocrite since you omitted certain Democrat politicians agreeing with this issue.

Again, you used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link to backed your argument which omitted the Democrats from it. Deal with it.

Straw-Man Argument and red-herring. That omission by Variety (again, because the GOP senator was most vocal) had nothing to do with my claim,

I'm simply stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, several GOP politicians, and many conservatives - especially in the NRA are anti-video game recently. (Far more than Dems).

IE: I state "Right wing terrorism had 219 incidents from 1992 to 2018". You state "You're A HYPOCRITE, LEFT WING HAD SOME (23) TOO from 1992 to 2018! But the problem is my original claim never said anything about the Left, nor was it making a comparison between the two. My claim is still correct, you're just mad I didn't include other data which has nothing to do with my main point.

Please read the above example. I was merely trying to prove the GOP held this view. Not say the GOP held this view and the DNC did not.

I'm beginning to think you're doing this because you know I beat you in the debate. Changing subjects constantly.

If it makes you happy, I'll use another link that isn't Variety. My original statement will still be true.

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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

Without the use Presidential's executive order, federal legislation creation is at House of Representatives and the Democrats controls this government house.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives

The House is charged with the passage of federal legislation, known as bills, which, after concurrence by the Senate, are sent to the President for consideration.

This is US civil school basics 101.

What does this have to do with anything?

You argued "The current administration" when federal legislations are created in the House_of_Representatives

You didn't know US civil 101's federal legislation making process.

@zaryia said:

This is a complete subject change and goal post move. Do you understand English?

Here is my claim:

The Republican Party is the main party which currently holds anti-video game views.

Oh and,

Your argument hypocritical since both Feinstein and Schumer currently still in office.

Your argument hypocritical sinceyou argued BILLS are 6 years old when there's zero 100 percent GOP BILL on this matter. Hint: Republicans doesn't control US House of Representatives.

When Republicans controls House of Representatives, you argument is a nothing burger.

@ronvalencia said:

Without the use Presidential's executive order,

Not that your post has anything to do with anything in this thread, but I'll touch on it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Donald_Trump

I can't state the federal legislationonly comes from House of Representatives since it would omitting Presidential's EO. It's a simple US civil school 101.

Since you posted Donald_Trump's EO list, I'll post Obama's EO list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Barack_Obama

Until legislation is fully applied, your argument is a nothing burger.

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@ronvalencia said:

You argued "The current administration" when federal legislations are created in the House_of_Representatives

You didn't know US civil 101's federal legislation making process.

The Trump Administration is anti-video game - that's literally all I said. That's just a statement of facts. Why are you moving the goal post to make it look like I'm wrong on something?

I never said federal legislation is not made in the House......you're making shit up.

@ronvalencia said:

Your argument hypocritical since both Feinstein and Schumer currently still in office.

Irrelevant, that was over a half decade ago and they gave up. They aren't the ones making most of the anti-video game statements currently. The GOP is. Trump is.

My statement is 100% correct. Nothing you can say or do changes my statement from being 100% correct. This was my only claim:

I'm simply stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, several GOP politicians, and many conservatives - especially in the NRA are anti-video game recently. Your dear cult leaders don't like your hobby.

  • Republican White House Administration https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/
  • Republican President Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo
  • Republican Betsy Devos https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/5/betsy-devos-school-safety-commission-will-consider/
  • Republican President Donald https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html
  • Republican Oliver North https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games
  • Republican NRA http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/
  • Republican Rep. Brian Mast https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting
  • Republican "Media Research Center" https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/media-research-center/
  • Republican Rep. Vicky Hartzle https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • RepublicanMarkwayne Mullen
  • Republican Jeff Sessions https://psmag.com/news/jeff-sessions-reveals-the-department-of-justices-cluelessness-on-gun-violence
  • Republican Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican SenMarco Rubio (R-FL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

I know, it sucks. Your "team" leaders are the ones who currently hate on video games.

Until legislation is fully applied, your argument is a nothing burger.

Huh? Who said anything about that? My "argument' is a fact. Change subjects all you want, people can just click the above links and see Trump and plenty of conservatives anti-video game at the moment.

Which stage of Denial are you in?

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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

You argued "The current administration" when federal legislations are created in the House_of_Representatives

You didn't know US civil 101's federal legislation making process.

The Trump Administration is anti-video game - that's literally all I said. That's just a statement of facts. Why are you moving the goal post to make it look like I'm wrong on something?

I never said federal legislation is not made in the House......you're making shit up.

@ronvalencia said:

Your argument hypocritical since both Feinstein and Schumer currently still in office.

Irrelevant, that was over a half decade ago and they gave up. They aren't the ones making most of the anti-video game statements currently. The GOP is. Trump is.

My statement is 100% correct. Nothing you can say or do changes my statement from being 100% correct. This was my only claim:

I'm simply stating for a fact Trump, the Trump Administration, several GOP politicians, and many conservatives - especially in the NRA are anti-video game recently. Your dear cult leaders don't like your hobby.

  • Republican White House Administration https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/
  • Republican President Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKZn2Sf7bo
  • Republican Betsy Devos https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/5/betsy-devos-school-safety-commission-will-consider/
  • Republican President Donald https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-video-games-guns/index.html
  • Republican Oliver North https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/24/17389724/oliver-north-call-of-duty-nra-blames-video-games
  • Republican NRA http://www.dbknews.com/2018/03/16/gun-violence-video-game-control-trump-conference-nra/
  • Republican Rep. Brian Mast https://www.npr.org/2018/02/16/586315557/gop-rep-brian-mast-on-florida-school-shooting
  • Republican "Media Research Center" https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/media-research-center/
  • Republican Rep. Vicky Hartzle https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • RepublicanMarkwayne Mullen
  • Republican Jeff Sessions https://psmag.com/news/jeff-sessions-reveals-the-department-of-justices-cluelessness-on-gun-violence
  • Republican Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa
  • Republican SenMarco Rubio (R-FL) https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17098230/trumps-video-game-violence-meeting-esa

I know, it sucks. Your "team" leaders are the ones who currently hate on video games.

Which stage of Denial are you in?

1. You argued

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game

You then used https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/pennsylvania-video-game-tax-1203128774/ link that omitted the Democrats from it.

The real HOUSE BILL No.109 http://www.cqstatetrack.com/texis/redir?id=5c493f5ee141&rtype=text&original=y

INTRODUCED BY QUINN, HILL-EVANS AND NEILSON, JANUARY 28, 2019

QUINN = Republican

HILL-EVANS = Democrat https://twitter.com/rephillevans?lang=en

NEILSON = Democrat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_NeilsonEdward "Ed" Neilson is an American politician and member of the Democratic Party.

Your argument is built on a lie that omitted Democrats from the real HOUSE BILL No.109.

You complained about "you linked a 6 year old and 15 year old articles." when Dianne Feinstein is a current Californian Democrat senator.

You're a hypocrite i.e. blame GOP , omitted Democrats while two Democrats sponsored the same HOUSE BILL No.109.

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#122  Edited By Zaryia
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@ronvalencia said:

1. You argued

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game

(I cut out the straw-man arguments)

And may I ask, what in that bold quote is untrue?

Got em'

Brush up on your English and use less Straw-Men. You'll lose less debates.

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#123 BluFalconUltra
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Well duh.

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#124 ronvalencia
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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

1. You argued

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game

(I cut out the straw-man arguments)

And may I ask, what in that bold quote is untrue?

Got em'

Brush up on your English and use less Straw-Men. You'll lose less debates.

You're a hypocrite.

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#125  Edited By Zaryia
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@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

1. You argued

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game

(I cut out the straw-man arguments)

And may I ask, what in that bold quote is untrue?

Got em'

Brush up on your English and use less Straw-Men. You'll lose less debates.

You're a hypocrite.

I was merely stating a fact. I'm sorry if you also wanted me to include completely off-topic facts, but that's not how it works.

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#126  Edited By ronvalencia
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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

1. You argued

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game

(I cut out the straw-man arguments)

And may I ask, what in that bold quote is untrue?

Got em'

Brush up on your English and use less Straw-Men. You'll lose less debates.

You're a hypocrite.

I was merely showing that the GOP and Trump were anti-video game. I wasn't comparing the two at that point. If one of my dozen links happened to leave out Democrats, that wouldn't matter - but I am sorry. I'll use your link in the future.

But yeah, Trump and the GOP are so fucking stupid these last 2 years lmao! Anti-VG nonsense has to stop.

It's hypocritical position to take when you condemn one side while omitted another side's similar actions.

For the record, I use to be center-left until far leftist hacks introduced "race based socialism".

My positions

1. Installing solar panels and driving hybrid vehicles, I dislike oil based wars in the middle east. I don't support coal mine shutdown since reduces energy source competition. I support industrial scale carbon air mining that produces carbon fiber based products. AOC's Green deal is crap. Carbon air mining technology is useful for Mars colony.

2. Support for universal health care, NOT the high overhead Obama care version. Service provider must have the lowest overheads. Must rival Australia's administrative efficiency. Lowest government size to deliver the universal service. I don't support DSA's guaranteed federal jobs blank check. I like Australia's hybrid solution.

3. Support for universal school education that follows each child. Shift spending power towards child's parents not towards schools. This is Sweden style, I don't like blank checks to public education funding.

4. Reciprocal trade deals.

5. LGBT should NOT be killed. I will criticize any ideology that advocates LGBT to be put to death. JC's teachings only limits to teaching role and shouldn't exceed JC's teachings. I'm consistent on this issue. I will criticize Quran text on this issue.

6. Business's generic services should be offered regardless of sex and race, but artwork related expression should be according to US Constitution.

7. Reciprocal Christian/Buddhist evangelical work in gulf states.

8. Illegal queue jumpers should be stopped. Enforced queued legal immigration process.

9. Corporate taxes must be OECD corporate tax average competitive. I don't support higher taxes.

10. All policies must pass race neutrality test.

11. I don't support excessive censorship with games. I'm fine with something like Nier Automata or Witcher 3. Video-games censorship should be consistent with 50 Shades of Grey as an example. I dislike Anita Battle Angel (from Japanese manga franchise) SJW criticism.

I'm not a standard right winger.

With that being said, Trump administration and some GOP on violent video games are "nothing burger" until it's acted upon i.e. where's the BILL question? This BILL question should be addressed to the Democrats controlled House of Reps.

In other countries in the British Commonwealth, the administration that controls the supply bills is the real government.

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#127 ronvalencia
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@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:
@zaryia said:
@ronvalencia said:

1. You argued

But I'm just pointing out the fact the current administration and GOP is anti-video game

(I cut out the straw-man arguments)

And may I ask, what in that bold quote is untrue?

Got em'

Brush up on your English and use less Straw-Men. You'll lose less debates.

You're a hypocrite.

I was merely stating a fact. I'm sorry if you also wanted me to include completely off-topic facts, but that's not how it works.

Your facts omits Democrat's participation with the actual written BILL.

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#128  Edited By tormentos
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@ronvalencia said:

1. Black slavery ownership issue contributed into US civil war trigger with Republican majority north vs Democrat majority south.

2. Trump's argument with the wall is about illegal "queue jumpers". Trump admin boot out real "white" Nazis back to Germany.

3. Islam is not race.

The republicans of that ERA were very different to the ones we have now just so you know,when people try to act like the republican party still is what is was 100 years ago is fooling it self.

And let me tell you more its obvious that you are not an american,so you are as Welcome in US as any mexican is just so you know.

Illegal jumpers were all those who came to america and killed the native Indians more than 500 years ago and took their land,US is a country FORGED by emigrants,you don't see native Americans running the country no emigrants run US,they just forgot about it.

And i know this well since i am Puertorican our history is basically the same,500 years ago emigrants conquer the island and killed the native Indians and took their land.

We today are a mix race of Spanish conquistadors,African American and native Indians.

And? I don't see people as race at least here discrimination by color or religion is pretty low.

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#129 Howmakewood
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Is this Political Gamers

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#130  Edited By tormentos
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@zaryia:

The fun part about the party Ronvalencia is defending is that as a person they would threat him like shit,specially followers of trump which are the most racist in the land,considering ronvalencia is not an american.

Is simple lol worthy seen him put such defense,he would be ask for a green card if he is stop by a cop in Arizona before he would be ask for a license to drive.

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#131  Edited By Zaryia
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@ronvalencia said:

Your facts omits Democrat's participation with the actual written BILL.

@ronvalencia said:.

It's hypocritical position to take when you condemn one side while omitted another side's similar actions.

Here is a perfect example of how foolish you look right now,

IE:

Poster1: SJWs causing so much domestic terrorism!

Zaryia: "Right wing terrorism had 219 modern incidents". You should be more worried about them.

Ronald: You're A HYPOCRITE, LEFT WING HAD SOME TOO!

Zaryia: I agree, both sides do this. But the right (219) do it far more left (23) and I was merely showing Poster1 a simple statistic about the Right. Nothing more.

Ronald: Hypocrite!

Zaryia: Sigh.

But that doesn't matter. I accepted your revised link pages ago (which in 0 way changes my claims). Any cries of Hypocrisy have been quelled.

My original statement is 100% true, and I won the actual debate.

I'm simply stating for a definitive fact that the GOP/Trump are now the primary Anti-Video game party. This is largely in part to defend increasing NRA criticism over the last 2-3 years.

Have fun knowing your cult leaders are by far the most outspoken people against your hobby!

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#132 Zaryia
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@tormentos said:

@zaryia:

The fun part about the party Ronvalencia is defending is that as a person they would threat him like shit,specially followers of trump which are the most racist in the land,considering ronvalencia is not an american.

Is simple lol worthy seen him put such defense,he would be ask for a green card if he is stop by a cop in Arizona before he would be ask for a license to drive.

Agreed, @ronvalencia will never admit that Hate Groups(GAO/SPLC) and Hate Crimes(FBI) are on the rise after the rise of Trump and his rhetoric.

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#133 shurns
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Racist democrats. Didn't realize they still exist the way they do.

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#134 foxhound_fox
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Dominate second place? What an achievement.

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#135 Zaryia
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@shurns said:

Racist democrats. Didn't realize they still exist the way they do.

Most anti-minority hate groups are right leaning at the time being.

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#136 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I hope not. Ps4 is the best console this generation, but this generation sucks harder than Jenna Jamison.

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#137 Raining51
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No.

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#138 shurns
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@zaryia said:
@shurns said:

Racist democrats. Didn't realize they still exist the way they do.

Most anti-minority hate groups are right leaning at the time being.


There's no excuses here whatsoever when some of the left has shown racism and bigotry, especially for Black History Month.

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#139 Zaryia
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@shurns said:
@zaryia said:
@shurns said:

Racist democrats. Didn't realize they still exist the way they do.

Most anti-minority hate groups are right leaning at the time being.

There's no excuses here whatsoever when some of the left has shown racism and bigotry, especially for Black History Month.

There's far more on the right who are racist.

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#140 Son-Goku7523
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@tormentos said:

@zaryia:

The fun part about the party Ronvalencia is defending is that as a person they would threat him like shit,specially followers of trump which are the most racist in the land,considering ronvalencia is not an american.

Is simple lol worthy seen him put such defense,he would be ask for a green card if he is stop by a cop in Arizona before he would be ask for a license to drive.

True lol.

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#141 MonsieurX
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Surprising there haven't been any locks or bans after all this political crap

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@MonsieurX said:

Surprising there haven't been any locks or bans after all this political crap

I was like, WTF am I in the right thread?

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#143  Edited By robert_sparkes
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It would be huge if Sony allowed bc for all generations with trophy support.

I would be more inclined to play the og Xbox games if they found a way to implement achievements.

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#144  Edited By Zaryia
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@the-a-baum said:
@MonsieurX said:

Surprising there haven't been any locks or bans after all this political crap

I was like, WTF am I in the right thread?

Ronald Volencia (from Spain) thinks Trump and the NRA are pro-video game even though video evidence strongly shows otherwise.

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#145 MonsieurX
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@zaryia said:
@the-a-baum said:
@MonsieurX said:

Surprising there haven't been any locks or bans after all this political crap

I was like, WTF am I in the right thread?

Ronald Volencia (from Spain) thinks Trump and the NRA are pro-video game even though video evidence strongly shows otherwise.

Yet nobody gives a shit, stop derailing threads

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#146 Zaryia
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@MonsieurX said:
@zaryia said:
@the-a-baum said:
@MonsieurX said:

Surprising there haven't been any locks or bans after all this political crap

I was like, WTF am I in the right thread?

Ronald Volencia (from Spain) thinks Trump and the NRA are pro-video game even though video evidence strongly shows otherwise.

Yet nobody gives a shit, stop derailing threads

You're going to have to tell that to the person who started it, not me. I almost never start it.

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#147 MonsieurX
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@zaryia said:
@MonsieurX said:
@zaryia said:
@the-a-baum said:
@MonsieurX said:

Surprising there haven't been any locks or bans after all this political crap

I was like, WTF am I in the right thread?

Ronald Volencia (from Spain) thinks Trump and the NRA are pro-video game even though video evidence strongly shows otherwise.

Yet nobody gives a shit, stop derailing threads

You're going to have to tell that to the person who started it, not me. I almost never start it.

But you keep going

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#150 jeezers
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Go to the political forum ffs, this space is for system wars