PSP2 to have a 4 core cell processor

""We've also learned that the PSP 2 may incorporate dual analog sticks as well""

it may? oh no, it F'ing better.

LP4EVA2005

Why not good old MIPS that Sony always love:

http://www.mips.com/products/cores/32-64-bit-cores/mips32-1004k/

It would make high possibility for PS1/PS2/PSP1 compatiblity, since alll those platforms use same architecture

[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]

""We've also learned that the PSP 2 may incorporate dual analog sticks as well""

it may? oh no, it F'ing better.

MisterG333

Dual Analog sticks and san andreas are all this needs to be a winner. Oh and also some childish games so the "Kids" can buy into it

lol. and i thought system wars couldn't get anymore technologically illiterate. srsly people believe anything they read or hear these days without thinking things out themselves

wow. i guess it'll be easy for developers to make PSP2/PS3 games now.

that'd be pretty crazy.

No. few HUGE reasons.

A: Power consumption. Battery life would be atrocious.

B: Heat. It would be too hot without a good heatsink, which wouldn't be possible in a handheld.

Simply too large of a chip to be plausible in a handheld.

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]ps3 doesnt have a 8 core processor neither will psp have a 4 core one. get your facts straightPelon208

"he four-core processors is a fairly new addition to the rumor mill. The inclusion of a powerful four-core processing system would be a large boost over current iterations, and to it put into perspective, is about half the power of the PS3, which runs on an eight-core"

That's from IGN.

Sorry, PS3 has one CPU core, that is fact and IGN just wrote it wrong, or have no idea what they are talking about, pick one

[QUOTE="Pelon208"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]ps3 doesnt have a 8 core processor neither will psp have a 4 core one. get your facts straighttheseekar

"he four-core processors is a fairly new addition to the rumor mill. The inclusion of a powerful four-core processing system would be a large boost over current iterations, and to it put into perspective, is about half the power of the PS3, which runs on an eight-core"

That's from IGN.

Sorry, PS3 has one CPU core, that is fact and IGN just wrote it wrong, or have no idea what they are talking about, pick one

It is have 6 cores (for developers) but it's controlled in diffrent way, this is why not all developers are good in mastering it's power.

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="Pelon208"]

"he four-core processors is a fairly new addition to the rumor mill. The inclusion of a powerful four-core processing system would be a large boost over current iterations, and to it put into perspective, is about half the power of the PS3, which runs on an eight-core"

That's from IGN.

ShadowriverUB

Sorry, PS3 has one CPU core, that is fact and IGN just wrote it wrong, or have no idea what they are talking about, pick one

It is have 6 cores (for developers) but it's controlled in diffrent way, this is why not all developers are good in mastering it's power.

It has 1 CPU core and 6 SPEs.... SPEs are not the same as CPU cores, so don't act like they are.

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

Sorry, PS3 has one CPU core, that is fact and IGN just wrote it wrong, or have no idea what they are talking about, pick one

KingsMessenger

It is have 6 cores (for developers) but it's controlled in diffrent way, this is why not all developers are good in mastering it's power.

It has 1 CPU core and 6 SPEs.... SPEs are not the same as CPU cores, so don't act like they are.

I'm not acting they are, did i said CPU cores? :P did it change the fact that Cell got more processing power then Xenon?

Along with a 5 minute battery life and over-heating every 2 minutes?? Just what I want my handheld to do :?93soccer

You just described the 360 with that last part.

Found the battery pack guys. at least I will beef up while playing my PSP2!

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

It is have 6 cores (for developers) but it's controlled in diffrent way, this is why not all developers are good in mastering it's power.

ShadowriverUB

It has 1 CPU core and 6 SPEs.... SPEs are not the same as CPU cores, so don't act like they are.

I'm not acting they are, did i said CPU cores? :P did it change the fact that Cell got more processing power then Xenon?

"Cores" implies CPU Cores. Regardless, an SPE is technically neither. I'd say it probably has more in common with a stream processor that you would find in a modern GPU than an actual CPU... That is not to say it would be able to perform GPU functions as is, because it wouldn't be able to do the vast majority of them... Just that it isn't really a CPU core at all.

If you believe this then I have beach-front property in Las Vegas that I would like to sell to you.

This would never become a certified product for use by the FCC given that handhelds need to be within a certain TDP(Thermal Power) to be deemed a safe product, especial since people will have to come into physical contact with this.

That means this handheld needs a central processor that draws ~1 watt. Do you honestly think the POWER5 core can function on 1 watt of electricity; a POWER5 core with SPE constituents...?

Considering all of your favorite SmartPhones consume less than 1 watt of power, and are matching the PSP in terms of visuals, the idea of a quad-core handheld is just stupor... Also considering the 45nm Intel Atom processor uses just 6 watts and its far too power hungry for anything smaller than an 8" netbook. A quad-core anything just doesn't seem logical.

we rly should lock this thread before more people believe this garbage

[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]

""We've also learned that the PSP 2 may incorporate dual analog sticks as well""

it may? oh no, it F'ing better.

MisterG333

Face it guys: Sony knows squat about the handheld market.charizard1605

This. Most of the PSP's titles would have fared far better on the PS2 or PS3. Dissidia HD PS3 anyone? I know I'm down for that.

The PSP to me feels like a somewhat successful tread into unknown waters but couldn't truly decide on what it wanted to be.

sony isnt even making money on the current psp why are they gonna waste the time and money on a new one?? they need to stick to strictly ps3... remember how the ps2 had so many exclusive games and sold so much?? ohhhh yea the psp never existed back then... Bangerman15

Face it guys: Sony knows squat about the handheld market.charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Face it guys: Sony knows squat about the handheld market.gamebreakerz__

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Face it guys: Sony knows squat about the handheld market.charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Considering they have the best portable device in the market, I would dispute this.gamebreakerz__

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] You would have had strong grounds to do so, if they DID have the best portable. Considering that the PSP is neither 'best' nor 'portable' I see no reason why you should dispute anything.charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] What is the best portable device then? If PSP ain't portable then niether is DS and nobody could call the Iphone the best. There is absolutely no doubt that PSP has a better list of games than any other portable device.gamebreakerz__

The PSP dominates the DS in graphics, media ability, and online features. Not to mention that any serious games on DS just flop in sales because all the kiddies who have it want are gimmicky casual games.

Wrong on all counts except for the media part, which I gladly concede. Nintendogs is NOT the third best exclusive on the DS, check Metacritic for more. Assuming that it is, though, I fail to see how it dictates standards are any lower. It's a well made fun game, and at the time of its release, it was a very novel idea.

The DS has stuff like The Legend of Zelda DS games, Ninja Gaiden Dragon word, The World Ends With You, Shin Megami Tensei Devil Survivor, Pokemon, New Super Mario Bros, all of which simply blow PSP games right out of the water, to the moon and back.

The DS has better online gaming. Yes, it has those stupid Friend Codes, but the DS online community is highly active, it takes me less than a minute to find matches in Mario Kart, whereas I have never once been able to play a game online on the PSP for lack of people playing.

NO SERIOUS GAME ON THE DS FLOPS. What are serious games? I'd argue with your definition of the word and state that games like Mario and Pokemon are more serious than God of War could ever hope to be,, but I'll pander to yur definitio instead and point out Metroid Prime Hunters, Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin, Castlevania: Order of Eclescia, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: World at War, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Mobilized, Resident Evil Deadly Silence, Dememntium, Dementium II, Moon, Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars, Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword, Contra 4 etc etc ALL OF WHICH (except Moon and Contra) have sold in excess of a million copies. I'd say that's very successful. Also, I'd now point out with equal superiority that NO game on the PSP, kiddie, mature or otherwise, sells at all. I mean, the highest selling PSP game barely cracked 5 million, and there are only eight PSP games to have sold over a million. Not good, huh?

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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] No. The DS IS the best portable device. ANYBODY could emperically or statistically prove that the DS has a better gaming library. It has more AAA, more AA and ore A titles. It has more games in popular series that actually play well (rather than the gimp assed half downgraded portrs that the PSP gets as hand me downs). It has more unique, original and compelling titles. Sure, the PSP has some good games too. They're just outnumbered by the good games on the DS by a ratio of, oh I don't know, 1:70, I guess.charizard1605

The PSP dominates the DS in graphics, media ability, and online features. Not to mention that any serious games on DS just flop in sales because all the kiddies who have it want are gimmicky casual games.

Wrong on all counts except for the media part, which I gladly concede. Nintendogs is NOT the third best exclusive on the DS, check Metacritic for more. Assuming that it is, though, I fail to see how it dictates standards are any lower. It's a well made fun game, and at the time of its release, it was a very novel idea.

The DS has stuff like The Legend of Zelda DS games, Ninja Gaiden Dragon word, The World Ends With You, Shin Megami Tensei Devil Survivor, Pokemon, New Super Mario Bros, all of which simply blow PSP games right out of the water, to the moon and back.

The DS has better online gaming. Yes, it has those stupid Friend Codes, but the DS online community is highly active, it takes me less than a minute to find matches in Mario Kart, whereas I have never once been able to play a game online on the PSP for lack of people playing.

NO SERIOUS GAME ON THE DS FLOPS. What are serious games? I'd argue with your definition of the word and state that games like Mario and Pokemon are more serious than God of War could ever hope to be,, but I'll pander to yur definitio instead and point out Metroid Prime Hunters, Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin, Castlevania: Order of Eclescia, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: World at War, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Mobilized, Resident Evil Deadly Silence, Dememntium, Dementium II, Moon, Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars, Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword, Contra 4 etc etc ALL OF WHICH (except Moon and Contra) have sold in excess of a million copies. I'd say that's very successful. Also, I'd now point out with equal superiority that NO game on the PSP, kiddie, mature or otherwise, sells at all. I mean, the highest selling PSP game barely cracked 5 million, and there are only eight PSP games to have sold over a million. Not good, huh?

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Because sales do mean anything. Lots of kiddies own a DS and many adults have them for the cooking apps and such. PSP is much better for serious gaming. What games were you playing online on PSP?? Games like Resistance and Socom have handreds of people online at a time and the combat is great. Not to mention that the top 10 higest selling games for DS include: Nintendogs (1), Brain Training (3), Brain Training 2 (6) and Animal Crossing (7). Where as the PSP goes GTA, Monster Hunter, Daxter, GTA, R&C, GOW, Crisis Core, MH, NFS, Tekken. These are all seriously great games where as DS sells gimmicks. Most of those games u named have less sales than 'Cooking Mama', wake up!gamebreakerz__

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Because sales do mean anything. Lots of kiddies own a DS and many adults have them for the cooking apps and such. PSP is much better for serious gaming. What games were you playing online on PSP?? Games like Resistance and Socom have handreds of people online at a time and the combat is great. Not to mention that the top 10 higest selling games for DS include: Nintendogs (1), Brain Training (3), Brain Training 2 (6) and Animal Crossing (7). Where as the PSP goes GTA, Monster Hunter, Daxter, GTA, R&C, GOW, Crisis Core, MH, NFS, Tekken. These are all seriously great games where as DS sells gimmicks. Most of those games u named have less sales than 'Cooking Mama', wake up!charizard1605

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] You would have had strong grounds to do so, if they DID have the best portable. Considering that the PSP is neither 'best' nor 'portable' I see no reason why you should dispute anything.charizard1605

I think that you need to really dial down the hyperbole here, and also consider that this isn't a thread about the PSP.

Teufelhuhn

I'm not really doing anything wrong, though, right? At least, not yet :P

gamebreakerz_,

The PSP has none of the crappy stuff because no one bothers to make anything for it. They know it won't sell.

Software sales on the PSP are pathetic, that is a fact. Also, please don't cite VGChartz as a source. Here's something marginally more reliable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#PlayStation_Portable

I see I was wrong about the only eight titles part. Sorry about that. However, just have a look at the total software sales for the PSP: 200 million

Here's the link for the DS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_DS_video_games

Total software sales for the DS: 718.50 million.

Also, the sofware to hardware attach ratio for the PSP therefore turns out to be 1:3 i.e three games owned per hardware unit of the PSP.

For the DS, the software to hardware attach ratio is 1:6, that is DOUBLE that of the PSP.

Also, I went online on Resistance at 11.00am here in India, which would mean it was night mostly everywhere else, so I can see why I would find no one. However, most of the times, I have attempted to go online with GTA, and found no one. That puts me off, I've never faced this problem on the DS.

P.S: In case you were wodering why I gave you an 'expanded' DS list and only a small PSP one in my links, that's because the DS has an expanded list section devoted to it. The PSP doesn't, as best as I could make out. We'll have to make do with what we have.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]I think that you need to really dial down the hyperbole here, and also consider that this isn't a thread about the PSP.

I'm not really doing anything wrong, though, right? At least, not yet :P

gamebreakerz_,

The PSP has none of the crappy stuff because no one bothers to make anything for it. They know it won't sell.

Software sales on the PSP are pathetic, that is a fact. Also, please don't cite VGChartz as a source. Here's something marginally more reliable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#PlayStation_Portable

I see I was wrong about the only eight titles part. Sorry about that. However, just have a look at the total software sales for the PSP: 200 million

Here's the link for the DS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_DS_video_games

Total software sales for the DS: 718.50 million.

Also, the sofware to hardware attach ratio for the PSP therefore turns out to be 1:3 i.e three games owned per hardware unit of the PSP.

For the DS, the software to hardware attach ratio is 1:6, that is DOUBLE that of the PSP.

Also, I went online on Resistance at 11.00am here in India, which would mean it was night mostly everywhere else, so I can see why I would find no one. However, most of the times, I have attempted to go online with GTA, and found no one. That puts me off, I've never faced this problem on the DS.

P.S: In case you were wodering why I gave you an 'expanded' DS list and only a small PSP one in my links, that's because the DS has an expanded list section devoted to it. The PSP doesn't, as best as I could make out. We'll have to make do with what we have.

Lets just agree to disagree. The real argument will start after E3 when (hopefully) the PSP2 and 3DS can be compared.gamebreakerz__

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] You would have had strong grounds to do so, if they DID have the best portable. Considering that the PSP is neither 'best' nor 'portable' I see no reason why you should dispute anything.charizard1605

Not to mention it's designed for stop-and-go use.HuusAsking

Umm... I hate cell... No thanks! That thing is bad at everything it does except folding and multi million dollar programing techniques. Which spells bad things! I know dev's aren't going to want it.

Put a treditional processor in it and call it a day.

I'd hit it, I bet their holding back software PS2 BC for PSP2 launch, then they'll implement it to PS3 too. Double win. 110million

Looking at current PS1 BC model, i would not be suppriced

[QUOTE="110million"]I'd hit it, I bet their holding back software PS2 BC for PSP2 launch, then they'll implement it to PS3 too. Double win. ShadowriverUB

Looking at current PS1 BC model, i would not be suppriced

There are some ports from PS2 to PSP like the POP games, so I don't know about that.

What about a GT3 port, that would be AWESOME.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Considering they have the best portable device in the market, I would dispute this.gamebreakerz__

I think there are sales charts and review scores elsewhere that would disprove your statement.

Dual Analog sticks and san andreas are all this needs to be a winner. Oh and also some childish games so the "Kids" can buy into it

smartcriminal

Good that the handheld will be powerful. But if the games are graphically impressive they will contain a lot of data causing:
-long loading times
-long time to download a game if they go DD only
-can cartridges hold that much data ? Or will they choose a stupid disc type media again ?

I'd rather take a simple 2d game on-the-go that starts up in a few seconds than play a game with God of War III scale graphics which just ends loading when I arrive at my destination.

my 2 cents