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#1251  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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I just played it briefly on XB1, and it looks amazing... forget about what all these "experts" & dumb fanboys say, it looks great. And plays great.

Can't wait to play more when I get home from work.

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#1252 Zero_epyon
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@aigis said:
@Xdrone said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@Xdrone said:

The real story in this thread is the CBS/Sony conspiracy and you people lack the basic perception skills to see it ...

If you're satisfied with the games media being hijacked by a foreign corporation ... and having the Sony Agenda forced down your throats then you're beyond help.

I personally am not going to stand for it.

Wait were you not joking?

No he was not.

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#1253 aigis
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@Zero_epyon said:
@aigis said:
@Xdrone said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@Xdrone said:

The real story in this thread is the CBS/Sony conspiracy and you people lack the basic perception skills to see it ...

If you're satisfied with the games media being hijacked by a foreign corporation ... and having the Sony Agenda forced down your throats then you're beyond help.

I personally am not going to stand for it.

Wait were you not joking?

No he was not.

I just thought Xdrone was a little on the nose, dont you think?

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#1254 Ghost120x
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I'm still getting it tomorrow. I know what to expect from these kinds of games. After being on an RPG binge on 3ds, I need some quick action!

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@Alucard_Prime said:

Awesome to see the overwhelmingly positive reviews on Metacritic, 61 total now. A risky project that could have turned out so much worse, I'm stoked to play the game later and hopefully I will enjoy it as well!

And yet still at 78... Even when most of the new reviews being 90+...

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#1256  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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@aigis said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@aigis said:
@Xdrone said:
@flyincloud1116 said:

If you're satisfied with the games media being hijacked by a foreign corporation ... and having the Sony Agenda forced down your throats then you're beyond help.

I personally am not going to stand for it.

Wait were you not joking?

No he was not.

I just thought Xdrone was a little on the nose, dont you think?

It's quite pathetic.

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#1257 Zero_epyon
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@aigis said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@aigis said:
@Xdrone said:
@flyincloud1116 said:

If you're satisfied with the games media being hijacked by a foreign corporation ... and having the Sony Agenda forced down your throats then you're beyond help.

I personally am not going to stand for it.

Wait were you not joking?

No he was not.

I just thought Xdrone was a little on the nose, dont you think?

yeah I know.

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#1258 Ballroompirate
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Actually Metacritic is wrong in the avg score (they might haven't updated it yet but w/e), assuming my napkin math isn't fubard but it should be a avg of 79, not an avg of 78.

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add all of those which equals 6,264, divide it by the number of reviews which is 79, the meta avg should be something like 79.2911 yada yada

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#1259 ni6htmare01
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@Zero_epyon said:
@aigis said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@aigis said:
@Xdrone said:

If you're satisfied with the games media being hijacked by a foreign corporation ... and having the Sony Agenda forced down your throats then you're beyond help.

I personally am not going to stand for it.

Wait were you not joking?

No he was not.

I just thought Xdrone was a little on the nose, dont you think?

yeah I know.

Is he another Alt of Nya? lol

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@Ballroompirate said:

Actually Metacritic is wrong in the avg score (they might haven't updated it yet but w/e), assuming my napkin math isn't fubard but it should be a avg of 79, not an avg of 78.

As of this post the scores are

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add all of those which equals 6,264, divide it by the number of reviews which is 79, the meta avg should be something like 79.2911 yada yada

Dude we've been saying this for the longest...

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#1261 Zero_epyon
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@ni6htmare01: who knows. I wouldn't be surprised...

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@blessedbyhorus: the only stuff I saw about it is saying the score is off, I haven't seen a post (only went back 1 page) doing the math to prove that indeed the avg is off. It would be like saying someone saw Jennifer Lawrence nude w/o proof XD

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@Ballroompirate said:

@blessedbyhorus: the only stuff I saw about it is saying the score is off, I haven't seen a post (only went back 1 page) doing the math to prove that indeed the avg is off. It would be like saying someone saw Jennifer Lawrence nude w/o proof XD

@dynamitecop and others did the same math you did already.

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#1264 lostrib
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@Ballroompirate: metacritic doesn't do straight averages

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#1265 aigis
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@Ballroompirate said:

Actually Metacritic is wrong in the avg score (they might haven't updated it yet but w/e), assuming my napkin math isn't fubard but it should be a avg of 79, not an avg of 78.

add all of those which equals 6,264, divide it by the number of reviews which is 79, the meta avg should be something like 79.2911 yada yada

Not on my Metacritic
Not on my Metacritic

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#1266 Ballroompirate
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@blessedbyhorus said:
@Ballroompirate said:

@blessedbyhorus: the only stuff I saw about it is saying the score is off, I haven't seen a post (only went back 1 page) doing the math to prove that indeed the avg is off. It would be like saying someone saw Jennifer Lawrence nude w/o proof XD

@dynamitecop and others did the same math you did already.

Just went back 3 pages and no, no one did any sort of math to find the average (conspiracy theories =/= math), the closes comment I could find was Blackaces

"75% of the scores were 70 or higher. Easily more positive reviews then 60 or below reviews. Don't need to cherry pick, it's pretty obvious. The game didn't score in the 60's like The Order 1886 or FlopClub because those games actually did have more scores 60 or lower. If Uncharted 4 scores anything under a 9.0 it will be a flop as well. Cows are hoping and praying for Bloodborne type reviews I'm sure."

which is not even close to finding the average of something, in case Quantum Break.

@lostrib said:

@Ballroompirate: metacritic doesn't do straight averages

That's dumb as hell lol

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#1267 aigis
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@Ballroompirate said:
@blessedbyhorus said:
@Ballroompirate said:

@blessedbyhorus: the only stuff I saw about it is saying the score is off, I haven't seen a post (only went back 1 page) doing the math to prove that indeed the avg is off. It would be like saying someone saw Jennifer Lawrence nude w/o proof XD

@dynamitecop and others did the same math you did already.

Just went back 3 pages and no, no one did any sort of math to find the average (conspiracy theories =/= math), the closes comment I could find was Blackaces

"75% of the scores were 70 or higher. Easily more positive reviews then 60 or below reviews. Don't need to cherry pick, it's pretty obvious. The game didn't score in the 60's like The Order 1886 or FlopClub because those games actually did have more scores 60 or lower. If Uncharted 4 scores anything under a 9.0 it will be a flop as well. Cows are hoping and praying for Bloodborne type reviews I'm sure."

which is not even close to finding the average of something, in case Quantum Break.

Can confirm that they did the same math, I forget how long ago that was though

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#1268 deactivated-5b883bb846c10
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@Ballroompirate:

You didn't go far back enough...

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#1269 Ballroompirate
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@blessedbyhorus said:

@Ballroompirate:

You didn't go far back enough...

Then be my guest and find the post, cause I went back as far as 1 day and 17 hours and didn't find any post doing any sort of math to find the average.

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@lostrib: Both are ridiculous. Maybe this one because you would think he would not repeat such an embarrassment.

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#1271  Edited By aigis
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@Ballroompirate: here you go

@commander said:

Because some sites give the game overly low scores (giantbomb and time 4/10, gamespot , examiner, telegraph and 1 other 6/10 , out of 72 critics) the score has been dragged down.

It has been dragged down more than it seems because sites like gamespot carry more weight in the scoring system of metacritic. It's quite obvious when you calculate the averages yourself. Then the score is not 78 but 80. The average score on gamerankings is also 80.

80 percent is not a flop, especially with those bogus reviews, hype or no hype

Besides let's see how the user review score is for quantum break and for uncharted as well, because quantum break is more of a competitor to uncharted. The last of us is quite some time ago.

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@dynamitecop said:
@Legend002 said:

6/10 max. This looks incredibly uninspiring and generic.

You could try to make your bovine bias a bit less obvious.

that backfired lol

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@wiiboxstation said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Legend002 said:

6/10 max. This looks incredibly uninspiring and generic.

You could try to make your bovine bias a bit less obvious.

that backfired lol

Not at all actually, he didn't say that because he was projecting that, he said that because he's a fanboy.

He could have been aware the game would be a game of the year contender even before review releases and he would have still said that.

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#1274 kvally
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@blessedbyhorus said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Sollet said:

So next flop: Scalebound?

Gears 4. SB got delayed to 2017.

Is Gears 4 really the next "exclusive" for MS this year? I though there were more?

No they also got Recore(which I hope is good), Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3.

Sea of Thieves is a free to play MMO,

Link?

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#1276 aroxx_ab
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Looks like all big Xbox games flopping, only Gears of war left then

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#1277  Edited By Heil68
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@kvally:

http://www.gamepur.com/news/19557-rares-sea-thieves-xbox-one-will-be-free-play-hints-job-listing.html

recore is coming to PC as well

http://www.pcgamer.com/recore-is-hopefully-coming-to-the-pc/

http://www.polygon.com/2016/1/4/10708038/recore-pc-xbox-one-release-keiji-inafune

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#1278 kvally
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@Heil68 said:

@kvally:

http://www.gamepur.com/news/19557-rares-sea-thieves-xbox-one-will-be-free-play-hints-job-listing.html

recore is coming to PC as well

http://www.pcgamer.com/recore-is-hopefully-coming-to-the-pc/

Kudos. I wasn't aware. Looking forward to it. I was bummed about the loss of Legends.

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@aigis said:

@Ballroompirate: here you go

@commander said:

Because some sites give the game overly low scores (giantbomb and time 4/10, gamespot , examiner, telegraph and 1 other 6/10 , out of 72 critics) the score has been dragged down.

It has been dragged down more than it seems because sites like gamespot carry more weight in the scoring system of metacritic. It's quite obvious when you calculate the averages yourself. Then the score is not 78 but 80. The average score on gamerankings is also 80.

80 percent is not a flop, especially with those bogus reviews, hype or no hype

Besides let's see how the user review score is for quantum break and for uncharted as well, because quantum break is more of a competitor to uncharted. The last of us is quite some time ago.

You do realize that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about doing the math to prove (like what I did even though it was pretty half assed) to show the avg was wrong. A 79.2% does not round up to 80%, it would actually just round down to 79%. The only way it would round up to 80% is if Metacritic was a .1 scaling system out of 10, like a 7.8 would just be round up to an 8 so QB and other games that score a 78 or 79 would be a 8/10 or a 80/100, but Metacritic doesn't do this or if they are trying to do it they are failing at it pretty hardcore.

As for QB being a "flop", I don't care I'm dling it as we speak cause the game looks dope as hell. I'm just here to prove the avg rating of QB was not correct.

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#1280 aigis
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@Ballroompirate: It was a few days ago, the scores may have been different, but you are both complaining about the same thing...

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26 pages. Holy f*ck! I have never seen lems this frustrated. Guys this is what happens when the delays, gameplay, DX12 and resolution all fail to deliver. Thank you Remedy for giving us SW worthy title haha

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#1282 jg4xchamp
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@Ballroompirate said:

Actually Metacritic is wrong in the avg score (they might haven't updated it yet but w/e), assuming my napkin math isn't fubard but it should be a avg of 79, not an avg of 78.

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add all of those which equals 6,264, divide it by the number of reviews which is 79, the meta avg should be something like 79.2911 yada yada

Metacritic isn't a strict average, certain websites carry more weight to the overall average of the review. It's why the Metacritic average and open critic average are different.

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#1283 Ballroompirate
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@jg4xchamp: Is there any proof of that though

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#1284 kvally
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@silversix_ said:

26 pages. Holy f*ck! I have never seen lems this frustrated. Guys this is what happens when the delays, gameplay, DX12 and resolution all fail to deliver. Thank you Remedy for giving us SW worthy title haha

Agreed. It looks like the cows and lems have officially gone full postal on each other.

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@Ballroompirate said:

@jg4xchamp: Is there any proof of that though

http://www.metacritic.com/about-metascores

Why the term “weighted average” matters

Metascore is a weighted average in that we assign more importance, or weight, to some critics and publications than others, based on their quality and overall stature. In addition, for music and movies, we also normalize the resulting scores (akin to "grading on a curve" in college), which prevents scores from clumping together.

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@sts106mat said:
@blessedbyhorus said:

I know many people are going to call me "butt hurt" or that im damage controlling and blah blah blah... But I'm surprised MC has not updated the score. The game now has 59 postive reviews(14 mixed and 3 negative) with 3 recent good reviews from the 3th and 4th that are actually in the 90s....

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/quantum-break/critic-reviews

metacritic is a joke. the only opinion that counts is your own.

Exactly. And having now played the first act, watched the episode I am enjoying it. Its definitely a Remedy game and that's good to me. I am enjoying combat as well. Much more refreshing than hiding/running to new cover and just popping up and shooting. I enjoy that with my Gears and Uncharted fix. Running around choosing when to use which power is fun. Don't know what the entire experience will be but its a fun start.

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#1287 Ballroompirate
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@jg4xchamp said:
@Ballroompirate said:

@jg4xchamp: Is there any proof of that though

http://www.metacritic.com/about-metascores

Why the term “weighted average” matters

Metascore is a weighted average in that we assign more importance, or weight, to some critics and publications than others, based on their quality and overall stature. In addition, for music and movies, we also normalize the resulting scores (akin to "grading on a curve" in college), which prevents scores from clumping together.

That's a crappy average system then lol, specially if they have 3 different categories for those "top" sites like most clicked, most active and publication if that's how they do it. Each top site/publication could change on a monthly or even weekly basis, like one month Gamespot could have a slow month(s) and a random site could have a high hit month and replace Gamespot. I mean you can even factor in say for example a Sony publication site could easily "bump" their site with fake hits.

I might be going too much into it but averaging the avg of a score should be simple like if a LoZ game scores a 7,7,8,8,8,9,9,9 which would be an average of 8.1 or 8 if you want to round it.

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#1289 cainetao11
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@Ballroompirate said:
@jg4xchamp said:
@Ballroompirate said:

@jg4xchamp: Is there any proof of that though

http://www.metacritic.com/about-metascores

Why the term “weighted average” matters

Metascore is a weighted average in that we assign more importance, or weight, to some critics and publications than others, based on their quality and overall stature. In addition, for music and movies, we also normalize the resulting scores (akin to "grading on a curve" in college), which prevents scores from clumping together.

That's a crappy average system then lol, specially if they have 3 different categories for those "top" sites like most clicked, most active and publication if that's how they do it. Each top site/publication could change on a monthly or even weekly basis, like one month Gamespot could have a slow month(s) and a random site could have a high hit month and replace Gamespot. I mean you can even factor in say for example a Sony publication site could easily "bump" their site with fake hits.

I might be going too much into it but averaging the avg of a score should be simple like if a LoZ game scores a 7,7,8,8,8,9,9,9 which would be an average of 8.1 or 8 if you want to round it.

I agree. If the sites are worthy enough to be mentioned on Meta then their scores should have equality. Might as well just limit the score to the sites the deem worthy most and not factor in the rest then.

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#1291 QuadKnight
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@speak_low said:

Has this link been posted. Remedy stunned by Uncharted 4. Sam Lake thanks Neil for raising the bar and the constant inspiration.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-4-raises-the-bar-quantum-break-dev-says/1100-6437355/?ftag=GSS-05-10aaa0a

Lems just get used to the idea ND are the real game-changers. Remedy even agrees.

Too bad lems never accept when they've been owned. Remedy being the gracious devs they are recognize when they've been beaten.

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#1292 WeepsForFools
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@quadknight said:
@speak_low said:

Has this link been posted. Remedy stunned by Uncharted 4. Sam Lake thanks Neil for raising the bar and the constant inspiration.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-4-raises-the-bar-quantum-break-dev-says/1100-6437355/?ftag=GSS-05-10aaa0a

Lems just get used to the idea ND are the real game-changers. Remedy even agrees.

Too bad lems never accept when they've been owned. Remedy being the gracious devs they are recognize when they've been beaten.

how do developer nuts taste

sad

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#1294  Edited By dynamitecop
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@speak_low said:
@WeepsForFools said:
@quadknight said:
@speak_low said:

Has this link been posted. Remedy stunned by Uncharted 4. Sam Lake thanks Neil for raising the bar and the constant inspiration.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-4-raises-the-bar-quantum-break-dev-says/1100-6437355/?ftag=GSS-05-10aaa0a

Lems just get used to the idea ND are the real game-changers. Remedy even agrees.

Too bad lems never accept when they've been owned. Remedy being the gracious devs they are recognize when they've been beaten.

how do developer nuts taste

sad

Exactly Quadknight. Look at this Alt that just quoted both of us. Look at what the 78 Metacritic score dragged in.

You numb nuts might want to play the game before you get carried away, I don't care about your vitriol, you're bad mouthing a really good game that you'd likely enjoy.

No amount of bullshit fanboyism is worth missing out on a good gaming experience.

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#1295 finalstar2007
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Watching this movie on twitch is hilarious especially the comments section

its JACK this and JACK that not to mention half of the people thought they were on netflx twitch streams for quantum break are gold

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#1296 QuadKnight
Member since 2015 • 12916 Posts
@dynamitecop said:
@speak_low said:
@WeepsForFools said:
@quadknight said:
@speak_low said:

Has this link been posted. Remedy stunned by Uncharted 4. Sam Lake thanks Neil for raising the bar and the constant inspiration.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-4-raises-the-bar-quantum-break-dev-says/1100-6437355/?ftag=GSS-05-10aaa0a

Lems just get used to the idea ND are the real game-changers. Remedy even agrees.

Too bad lems never accept when they've been owned. Remedy being the gracious devs they are recognize when they've been beaten.

how do developer nuts taste

sad

Exactly Quadknight. Look at this Alt that just quoted both of us. Look at what the 78 Metacritic score dragged in.

You numb nuts might want to play the game before you get carried away, I don't care about your vitriol, you're bad mouthing a really good game that you'd likely enjoy.

No amount of bullshit fanboyism is worth missing out on a good gaming experience.

Save us your butthurt tears. If this game was exclusive to PC and PS4 you wouldn't be defending it like you're doing now. Where were you when SFV flopped?

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#1299 finalstar2007
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@finalstar2007: ahh twitch the site where people who cant play games go to watch real gamers play...

But then again you have probably quit gaming now, i know if i had spent 1500 hours in destiny i would have probably been bored to death.

You deserve a day of remebrence and a worldwide fucking minutes silence for that shit

At least in Destiny im actually playing a video game.. not watching a movie looool

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#1300 QuadKnight
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@speak_low said:

Lemmings need Alts because they're so embarrassed being themselves.

Indeed. They are an embarrassing lot.