Real Price Comparison.

Real Price Comparison
Best options for full utilisation of the systems.
Considering 10 year support... Both companies have revealed they have a 10 year life cycle.
$ based on UK prices for mental comparison.

Xbox 360 Elite Console + Resident Evil 5 + Extra Black Wireless Controller + Headset
http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/9151658/Xbox-360-Elite-Console-Resident-Evil-5-Extra-Black-Wireless-Controller/Product.html
£229.99

Official Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter
http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/719752/Official-Xbox-360-Wireless-Network-Adapter/Product.html
£54.99

XBL Gold Membership
http://www.xbox.com/NR/exeres/F925FE0C-E310-491A-82E0-7A604A353BFB.htm
£30 x 10 Years
£300

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Sony PlayStation 3 PS3 Console with 80GB HDD + inFamous
http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/10039616/Sony-PlayStation-3-PS3-Console-with-80GB-HDD-+-inFamous/Product.html
£279.99

Sony PS3 Black DualShock 3 Wireless Controller
http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/5258216/Sony-PS3-Black-DualShock-3-Wireless-Controller/Product.html
£34.99

Official Sony PS3 Wireless Bluetooth Headset
http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/6704615/Official-Sony-PS3-Wireless-Bluetooth-Headset/Product.html
£17.99

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Xbox 360:£584.98 ($956)(£284.98 ($465)without XBLGold)
PS3: £332.97 ($541)

Even without including XBL gold its a £47.99 ($78 ) difference... Thats it.
I dont see why you would not include XBL fees...

Take what you want from it. Consider all the features of both systems and pick the right one for you.
At the end of the day, stop using pricing as a trump card.

*EDIT*
Taken out the HDD expansion for both consoles.

*EDIT*
Because people dont want to read my further posts before they reply...

Its not about self owning or having a go at who ever owns what system.
I was just trying to show that for the majority of gamers that requires the most fetures out of their console the price is pretty close.
And theres no doubt with the price of XBL Gold your costs goes up.

And at the end of the day it boils down to what system offers the end user the best for their needs.
Majority of console gamers need the added fetures i posted in the 1st post.

Sony needs to hire you for their marketing if they are going to move more units. Right now, even at around 23 Million, they are in last place!

i don't think people do use pricing as a trump card. the simple fact is for someone who just wants a system to play games the 360 can be pick up for £99, the ps3 no matter what type of gamer you are will cost £279-299.

i own both and i have all the accesories minus the harddrive for both, and i bought the 360 at launch for £279? i think it came out at, so the 360 is more expensive for me, but not everybody has the same gaming needs as me.

You don't need an elite to play games.

You don't need a wireless adapter unless you're too lazy to use wires.

You definitely don't need a 500GB harddrive why the hell is that on there...

You don't need an elite to play games.

You don't need a wireless adapter unless you're too lazy to use wires.

You definitely don't need a 500GB harddrive why the hell is that on there...

BigDaddyPOLO

Read the whole post mate.
Its on there because the 360 has a 120 and the PS3 a 80.
Theres a total price at the bottom of the post without the expansion.

I see your point on not all gamers are the same.
ButI belive the majority of gamers interested in an Xbox or PS3 would want the most out of it.

I read the whole post and I still don't get why it's there. For "full utilization" you don't ever need more than 20GB tops. The majority of gamers want to play games, not sit around trying to max out their consoles all day with useless things. You'll never need 10 years of Live either because even if the console is supported for 10 years doesn't mean Sony and MS won't announce their next gen consoles in a few years and then no one will care. Personally I've only paid for a couple years of Live and I don't see myself paying for more than a couple more.

ten years of xbox live......lmao

I read the whole post and I still don't get why it's there. For "full utilization" you don't ever need more than 20GB tops. The majority of gamers want to play games, not sit around trying to max out their consoles all day with useless things. You'll never need 10 years of Live either because even if the console is supported for 10 years doesn't mean Sony and MS won't announce their next gen consoles in a few years and then no one will care. Personally I've only paid for a couple years of Live and I don't see myself paying for more than a couple more.

BigDaddyPOLO

The HDD is the same price on both consoles mate.
So lets take it out of the equation... And say the Elite has more storage that the 80gig PS3 and put it down to features.

You say you paid for 2 years XBL Gold... $100. Couple more? $200.

If you buy a year of LIVE, you get a month free. Add that to the free month of LIVE you get from the beginning, plus the free trials that come with many big games, and you should subtract at least $50 from the total.

I bought my X360 in Dec05. I bought my PS3 in Feb07.

Even with XBL added in, I've still paid more for my PS3 :)

You don't need an elite to play games.

You don't need a wireless adapter unless you're too lazy to use wires.

You definitely don't need a 500GB harddrive why the hell is that on there...

BigDaddyPOLO

Good thread.
Sony should just start selling PS3s without HDDs. Hey, it would be ripping off, but casuals might not notice...

I see the "Let's add accessories to the price of the Xbox 360 to make it seem more expensive than the PS3" argument is never going to die...

Bottom line.

Xbox 360 $299 + $40 for a year of XBL Gold (Amazon and big box stores commonly discount the price) = $339

PS3 $399

There's no getting around this folks. I even threw in a year of XBL Gold, even though I didn't have to.

Yeah and none of the consoles need it. Over those years the Live price is still nothing compared to the costs buying games anyway. Also you're still not getting it, Xbox doesn't need 120 GB, PS3 doesn't need 80 GB, they are not computers. You don't keep hundreds of GB of data on it to keep a bunch of game saves. It's a pretty huge generalization, but people wouldn't keep more than a couple movies and several music albums on there, anyway. So what is it that requires all of this memory? Even then everything else can be streamed off your computer for 360 and I'm pretty sure you can do that with PS3 as well.

I see the "Let's add accessories to the price of the Xbox 360 to make it seem more expensive than the PS3" argument is never going to die...

Bottom line.

Xbox 360 $299 + $40 for a year of XBL Gold (Amazon and big box stores commonly discount the price) = $339

PS3 $399

There's no getting around this folks. I even threw in a year of XBL Gold, even though I didn't have to.

The_Game21x

Heck, I'd say you were being nice as I pay $30/yr for XBL....and have since '05. About twice a year Amazon and Costco have specials on XBL cards for $30/yr and I always get me at least one card, if not two.

Oh my goodness...not this crap again.

Want a real price comparison?

Xbox 360 costs $199

PS3 costs $399.

You mean I have to buy some random HDD that won't work on my 360 to play games?

Oh and I HAVE to buy a wifi adapter to play on XBL??? How am I playing games and talking with friends over xbl right now the

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I see the "Let's add accessories to the price of the Xbox 360 to make it seem more expensive than the PS3" argument is never going to die...

Bottom line.

Xbox 360 $299 + $40 for a year of XBL Gold (Amazon and big box stores commonly discount the price) = $339

PS3 $399

There's no getting around this folks. I even threw in a year of XBL Gold, even though I didn't have to.

LosDaddie

Heck, I'd say you were being nice as I pay $30/yr for XBL....and have since '05. About twice a year Amazon and Costco have specials on XBL cards for $30/yr and I always get me at least one card, if not two.

Yeah but for 360, no one forces you to buy 10 years of XBL or a wireless adapter. It gives the person much choice and freedom. And yeah if you're gonna buy everything for 360 that's included for PS3 you'll save money with the PS3, but i appreciate having the choice and the lower price. It's like sony charges you for stuff you don't need or wont.kratos-7

I've taken out the HDD expansion from both consoles.
LikeI said before I put them on both consoles and the price was the same.

I'm still wondering why you would need 500GB on a console.

Jeez, my computer only has 250GB drive and it can run Crysis on high.

real comparison?

Xbox 360 Elite = £200

PS3 = £280

I'm still wondering why you would need 500GB on a console.

Jeez, my computer only has 250GB drive and it can run Crysis on high.

BigDaddyPOLO

I have allot of games and most of them on the PS3 copies data to the drive. I've used just over 100 gig on games including PSN titles already.
I don't own a 360, I thought the 360 copies game data as well?

The price of the HDDvs GB sizewasnt that much apart so I went for the larger one.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I see the "Let's add accessories to the price of the Xbox 360 to make it seem more expensive than the PS3" argument is never going to die...

Bottom line.

Xbox 360 $299 + $40 for a year of XBL Gold (Amazon and big box stores commonly discount the price) = $339

PS3 $399

There's no getting around this folks. I even threw in a year of XBL Gold, even though I didn't have to.

The_Game21x

Heck, I'd say you were being nice as I pay $30/yr for XBL....and have since '05. About twice a year Amazon and Costco have specials on XBL cards for $30/yr and I always get me at least one card, if not two.

eh.....I feel that adding in XBL's cost is fair. Same for the HDD's cost.

My point was that there are deals on both of those things. I just checked Amazon and there are 20GB HDDs for $40

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

I'm still wondering why you would need 500GB on a console.

Jeez, my computer only has 250GB drive and it can run Crysis on high.

JohnM1983

I have allot of games and most of them on the PS3 copies data to the drive. I've used just over 100 gig on games including PSN titles already.
I don't own a 360, I thought the 360 copies game data as well?

The price of the HDDvs GB sizewasnt that much apart so I went for the larger one.

[QUOTE="JohnM1983"]

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

I'm still wondering why you would need 500GB on a console.

Jeez, my computer only has 250GB drive and it can run Crysis on high.

The_Game21x

I have allot of games and most of them on the PS3 copies data to the drive. I've used just over 100 gig on games including PSN titles already.
I don't own a 360, I thought the 360 copies game data as well?

The price of the HDDvs GB sizewasnt that much apart so I went for the larger one.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="JohnM1983"]

I have allot of games and most of them on the PS3 copies data to the drive. I've used just over 100 gig on games including PSN titles already.
I don't own a 360, I thought the 360 copies game data as well?

The price of the HDDvs GB sizewasnt that much apart so I went for the larger one.

HuusAsking

[QUOTE="kratos-7"]Yeah but for 360, no one forces you to buy 10 years of XBL or a wireless adapter. It gives the person much choice and freedom. And yeah if you're gonna buy everything for 360 that's included for PS3 you'll save money with the PS3, but i appreciate having the choice and the lower price. It's like sony charges you for stuff you don't need or wont.furomaster_99

ten years of xbox live......lmao

Fizzman

FOR people who bought an Xbox and now own an Xbox 360 its been $$$$$$:o :shock:over the years!!!! if your not gonna pay for live then enjoy games OFF LINE:cry: ;)while PS3 owners continue to play online!!! :D :)

No the real price comparison is $199 for a Xbox 360 and $399 for a PS3

Adding up the extras is just retarded, people buy extras for everything. Its the impact of the initial purchase not what you put into it, cause if it were different everyone would be driving around Ferrari's instead of Honda Civics that have enough money put into them to equal the price of the Ferrari.

Fact: I can play COD:WAW on a Xbox 360 for $259, if I wanted to do the same on PS3 $459

You don't need a HDD, Wifi adapter, extra controller, headset, LIVE subscription(first month is free so you can decide if you even want to pay for it), or a camera.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Heck, I'd say you were being nice as I pay $30/yr for XBL....and have since '05. About twice a year Amazon and Costco have specials on XBL cards for $30/yr and I always get me at least one card, if not two.

LosDaddie

eh.....I feel that adding in XBL's cost is fair. Same for the HDD's cost.

My point was that there are deals on both of those things. I just checked Amazon and there are 20GB HDDs for $40

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

ten years of xbox live......lmao

Ravenlore_basic

FOR people who bought an Xbox and now own an Xbox 360 its been $$$$$$:o :shock:over the years!!!! if your not gonna pay for live then enjoy games OFF LINE:cry: ;)while PS3 owners continue to play online!!! :D :)

Umm you can try, and spin it however you want, but when i walk out of a store with either a ps3 or 360 im either spending 200.00 or 400 not 860.44 or whatever the "total" price was. I can spin too lmao 360 costs twice as much as ps3, and still outsells it.

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

You don't need an elite to play games.

You don't need a wireless adapter unless you're too lazy to use wires.

You definitely don't need a 500GB harddrive why the hell is that on there...

ColdfireTrilogy

You don't need a wireless adapter unless you're too lazy to use wires.BigDaddyPOLO

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="kratos-7"]Yeah but for 360, no one forces you to buy 10 years of XBL or a wireless adapter. It gives the person much choice and freedom. And yeah if you're gonna buy everything for 360 that's included for PS3 you'll save money with the PS3, but i appreciate having the choice and the lower price. It's like sony charges you for stuff you don't need or wont.HuusAsking

[QUOTE="ColdfireTrilogy"]

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

You don't need an elite to play games.

You don't need a wireless adapter unless you're too lazy to use wires.

You definitely don't need a 500GB harddrive why the hell is that on there...

HuusAsking

I see the "Let's add accessories to the price of the Xbox 360 to make it seem more expensive than the PS3" argument is never going to die...

Bottom line.

Xbox 360 $299 + $40 for a year of XBL Gold (Amazon and big box stores commonly discount the price) = $339

PS3 $399

There's no getting around this folks. I even threw in a year of XBL Gold, even though I didn't have to.

The_Game21x

Actually, here is the real price comparison:

80 gb PS3 with built in wireless, bluetooth, and blu-raydirect from sony using their sony rewards program - $270 new with taxes

Dualshock 3 controller from newegg.com with free shipping - $42.99 new

Free Online for the life of the console - $0

Motorolla H710 Bluetooth Headset from Amazon.com (this is what I have) - 36.51 new

Total for all this awesomeness at the same prices I purchased all of it - $349.50

Sony needs to hire you for their marketing if they are going to move more units. Right now, even at around 23 Million, they are in last place!

SolidTy

Actually, here is the real price comparison:

80 gb PS3 with built in wireless, bluetooth, and blu-raydirect from sony using their sony rewards program - $270 new with taxes

Dualshock 3 controller from newegg.com with free shipping - $42.99 new

Free Online for the life of the console - $0

Motorolla H710 Bluetooth Headset from Amazon.com (this is what I have) - 36.51 new

Total for all this awesomeness at the same prices I purchased all of it - $349.50

drj077

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Sony needs to hire you for their marketing if they are going to move more units. Right now, even at around 23 Million, they are in last place!

mD-

Blu-ray lol
=(

Just kidding lol

In the long run I think everyone will see the benefits of blu-ray gaming...

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]You don't need a wireless adapter unless you're too lazy to use wires.Couth_

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I see the "Let's add accessories to the price of the Xbox 360 to make it seem more expensive than the PS3" argument is never going to die...

Bottom line.

Xbox 360 $299 + $40 for a year of XBL Gold (Amazon and big box stores commonly discount the price) = $339

PS3 $399

There's no getting around this folks. I even threw in a year of XBL Gold, even though I didn't have to.

killa4lyfe

No, you don't have to add some sort of Xbox Live fee. While I personally am interested in playing games online, not everyone who buys a 360 shares my interests, as evidenced by the fact that MS confirmed that there are 20 million XBL users (including silver accounts) and not close to the 30 million the Xbox 360 has shipped.

And yes, you're right. I own all three current gen consoles and I prefer the 360.

Actually, here is the real price comparison:

80 gb PS3 with built in wireless, bluetooth, and blu-raydirect from sony using their sony rewards program - $270 new with taxes

Dualshock 3 controller from newegg.com with free shipping - $42.99 new

Free Online for the life of the console - $0

Motorolla H710 Bluetooth Headset from Amazon.com (this is what I have) - 36.51 new

Total for all this awesomeness at the same prices I purchased all of it - $349.50

drj077

In the long run I think everyone will see the benefits of blu-ray gaming...

JohnM1983

I'm thinking most things will go to digital distribution before Blu-Ray gains serious momentum.