Reasons for Ps4's success?

So what? It means people who buy PS4 have twice as many games to play and look forward to than xbone.

That doesn't mean the X1 doesn't have games which is what he said. PS4 and X1 libraries are virtually the same minus the wealth of indie titles the PS4 has.

@ShadowDeathX: Yeah pretty much... or to put it more simply, hype.

You said PS4 HAS 907 total games.

Implies they currently can play them,which is false.

Most being indies but since when is 500 games == no games? When I go to Gamestop and look at the libraries I see virtually the same games available for both. So, yeah he was wrong with his assessment. He had power right and that was it.

Stop taking everything a literal sense. No one buys consoles just for what is currently out. People look at the big picture and what they will be playing for the next 5+ years. PS4 has more games out and in development than any other 8th gen console and its not even close.

Going to Gamestop was your first mistake.

I'm a die hard PC gamer and I bought a PS4 at the age of 30 years old because Igrew up with Play Station.....

Gamestop, BestBuy, Fry's ect.... same games available. Making the assertion more games == the other has none is your mistake among many others.

Except PS4 actually does have a superior library of games and it's not an opinion it's verifiable fact.

Perhaps it's your ignorance of this fact that lead you to place your bets on xbox one instead of the console that has more high quality games to choose from.

Your thread is based on simple ignorance to the facts and thus irrelevant based on your argument here.

You seemed to be focused on why they PS4 is beating xbox one so your question really shouldn't be reasons for PS4's success, it should be, "Why people aren't choosing xbox one over PS4".

As stated before, your thread is based on ignorance to the facts simply put, PS4 is superior in graphics, overall library catalog, membership discounts, membership game offers, overall 3rd party game support, 1st party game support, number of high rated games, Japanese game support, PC to console game support, indie game support.

To highlight this fact PS4 has about 14 high profile games in 2016 that aren't available on xbox or PC while xbox one only has about 3 that aren't available on PS4 or PC this year.

So, exactly what reason would even a mildly informed person have for choosing xbox one over PS4? People seem to be tired of the yearly MS trio Halo/Forza/Gears rotation so other than being a wildly loyal Halo fan, or buying based of some deeply in bedded sense of nationalism, why would anyone be buying an xbox one over PS4 today?

Yes,because people go to Wikipedia to look at all those games without any release date.

Had the better message and price from the start. Gets all the best third party games. 1st party software will finally deliver in 2016.

More games sure but a better lineup is subjective and therefore not a verifiable fact. Believe or it not, not everyone likes the PS4s exclusives.

Cows just can't seem the grasp what an opinion is vs what a fact is.

This.....

I own them all, and the only 2 exclusives worth playing were bloodborne and ... a lot lesser extent... infamous ... nothing else has come to the system as a "must have".

Xbone only has 38 exclusives out/in development and its the weakest machine compared to PS4 and PC so unless those 38 exclusives really matter to someone there is no reason to buy an xbone. Only an idiot buys xbone for multiplats.

Still doesn't negate the fact that it does indeed have games, which makes MY point correct.

Lot's of reasons to purchase an X1 and not just exclusives. Only a cow (see idiot) would think there is no reason to buy one.

What reasons? Kinect and TV? lol

Only an idiot buys a console for multiplats.

@casharmy: I don't see why you have to call people ignorant, instead of admitting that PS4 had a weak year. If we're talking about quantity, then why would anyone buy a console instead of gaming on Pc that has a way more huge library than al consoles combined?

No because consoles are cheaper.

Friends on top of the exclusives. Need there be any more reason. I mean isn't that one of THEE biggest reasons people purchase consoles?

I know it's hard for you cows to understand these concepts but try removing your head from Sony's ass for once.

They're not really

Well just because gamespot mods decided to run away from the old rules allowing fanboys to argue quality of games with just their biased opinion doesn't make them have credibility.

You don't have to agree with me or "cows" for that matter but you can't bring ANY credible argument to claim that PS4 doesn't have a superior library of games other than your personal opinion or that of other loud talking fanboys of microsoft and xbox.

It's a fact that on the basis of the collective critical acclaim from professional journalists around the world that PS4 does indeed have a superior library! Perhaps "lemmings" just can't to grasp the fact that majority opinion vs minority opinion is something that has to be taken into account when having a discussion like this and in the argument of opinion the majority rules.

Sorry you don't like that and can't deal with the rules we have used for years to quantify games but your opinion isn't a counter professional sources that show PS4 has more high rated games than xbox one. Your "cow" response doesn't mean anything since the sources I am referring to don't come from "cows".

Xbox fanboys like to say xbl is "superior" to PSN but have 0 verifiable sources to back up that opinion other than talking loudy. It's funny tho that when a playstaton fan challenges that opinion you guys like to call it a "fact". Until you have something to argue with other than your own opinion I think I'll stay with my original message.

PS4 = more high quality games than xbox one? Fact. Thus PS4 has a superior library, pretty simple.

Funny how you have 0 verifiable sources to back that "fact"

And by professional journalist,you mean magazines like "Playstation Official Magazine Australia" or "Playstation Official Magazine UK" that will obvious overrate any PS games

Neither can you. It's opinion whether you like it or not.

The only fact you just mentioned is that it PS4 games have been reviewed but still nothing more than people's opinions. No amount of banter is going to change that fact no matter how hard you try.

No it doesn't, especially when it comes to something as subjective as games. The majority holds no weight when it comes to a persons preference for games. You can stop trying to convince me that a review or majority of reviewers opinions is going to magically == fact. It's not

Those rules no longer apply AND I've ALWAYS stated reviews are nothing more than opinions. BTW the meta game determined flops or games meeting hype. You can't stop trying to use the "professionals" angle. Just because someone reviews games for a living doesn't mean their OPINION holds more weight. It's still a personal preference for that individual as well as all others. How man times has someone reviewed a game from a genre they don't like and gave a low score? Many many times.

Until you can verify an opinion is indeed a fact, I'll stand by mine. Good luck with that though cause you and I both know opinions based on subjective subjects could NEVER be considered fact.

PS4 == more games - Fact, PS4 == higher quality games == subjective in other words OPINION. Sure is pretty simple......for non cows.

Well, I call it as I see it.

And "admitting that PS4 has a weak year"? What the hell are you talking about there? You don't even seem to be making any point here other than desperately trying to knock PS4 when it's just a hot air opinon that has no relevance to anything.

Not that it matters but PS4 had an exclusive game in the top 5 contenders in the running for game of the year in 2015; PC didn't make that cut and neither did xbox one. You should kill the desperate flaky attempts to knock the PS4 in replies when you aren't giving a boost to any other systems here when put under the same microscope.

As far as your "quantity" argument goes and the PC reply. People like to play games consoles for specific reasons that I don't want to get into. That said, if someone wants to play games on consoles it's natural for people to want to get the best one.

Your post seems more deflection than anything or you just don't want people to choose PS4 for any reasons you can make up which is just silly on your part.

So you agreed that some Lems here keep saying XB1 has better games than PS4 are just opinion right than?

lol ok cool, I won't lose sleep :)

Meanwhile people continue to overwhelmingly choose the console with the most high quality game library amount the other choices. keh

Did I ever call it a fact?

People were purchasing the console BEFORE all those "high quality" games came out. Even Sony didn't know why the PS4 was selling so well.

I own a PS4 so I was one of those people that bought it but it wasn't because it had all those "high quality" games. I got it to play Destiny as well as BB. I also bought an X1 to play H5.

The best selling games are multi plat games, sort of suggests that the primary reason for buying a console is to see if it plays those first. You're not going to want them on a weaker piece of hardware. If PS4 had no exclusives what so ever, do you really believe it would be so far out in front in sales, in my opinion exclusives are only a secondary objective in deciding which to buy,

I got my PoS4 to play TLOuR and Killzone SF, I got my X1 to play Halo MCC, Halo 5 and GOW, eventually purchased Sunset so right now my Xj1 has more exclusives than my PoS4, that one still has only 2 exclusives ( I don´t care about any of the remaining 102 exclusives it supposedly has ).

You not liking the other exclusives doesn't change the fact they exist. Maybe try expanding your horizons beyond generic shooters like Halo and Gears.

Bc it's a good system to own?

Commonsense logic has no place in SW. You are probably correct as usual Matt.

ITT: Ridiculous misinterpretations of the words "fact" and "opinion"

@italygamer: I think PS4s success is because of Xbox One's poor start. It sure as hell isn't because PS4 is somehow better.

In every way that matters Xbox One and PS4 are identical.

There was always a chance at the start of this gen that Microsoft could claw it back. They've definitely regained face in the grand scheme of things but despite their efforts they've still not had many months where they've outsold PS4.

Which considering they've introduced backwards compatibility, released a Halo game, reversed policies, dropped the Kinect and dropped the console price it isn't like they've been sitting on their hands. They have made serious attempts to claw back but PS4 has so far simply swatted them away.

PS4 at this stage has too much momentum and too much of a user base. Just on hype and numbers alone they are self sustaining right now.

The advantages of PS4 have been blown WAY out of proportion though. Plus as far as I'm concerned neither console has had a tremendous amount of truly great games this gen. Witcher 3 was the first game that blew me away. No other game has come close.

But it wasn't the same price. XB1 was $100 more expensive for the first 6 months on the market.

Xbox reveal was a colossal failure and the PS4 $100 cheaper price tag helped loads of parents make the choice for their kids Christmas present easier.

Probably the Xbox One's failures, though I kind of feel that might not have made a difference really. I'd say the wave of anti-MS'ism / pro-Sony'ism was already taking hold anyways, and MS's scew up just really sped things along.

Exactly, this ain't the 90's anymore when 1st party exclusives mattered. Even if Sony never made a single 1st party exclusive for the PS4, it would have still outsold the XB1 2:1 in WW sales. The only way the XB1 could have beat the PS4 in sales is if they paid to make all future Madden and COD games XB1 exclusives.

Just look at the Wii U to see what happens when a device is mainly 1st party driven. If your box doesn't have Madden, GTA or Call of Duty then you can't expect your box to sell well.

I feel it does have a better library than the Xbox one because SONY has embraced indie and arcade games much like MS did last gen with the 360, it feels like MS have gone backwards this gen as far as support for indie and arcade games go.

Theres a hell of a lot of gamers that really dig Arcade and indie games

Some people want to act like indies shouldn't count as they think somehow great games can't be made with modest budgets.

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that's true. Even better for the PS4!

it was a combination of things

1) sony sent out a very clear message. this is the most powerful gaming console on the planet...and it costs less than the main competition. its the console you know and it plays all the games you are looking for. compare that to last gen where sony were promoting the PS3 as a blu-ray player and "teh cell" development platform before games even got a mention. it also cost more and gave no inherent benefit and the market bloody well knew it. PS4: most powerful gaming console, has all the games your looking for....no fussing...enjoy.

even at E3 last year they knew they had nothing ready for 2015 from internal development..so they focused on building hype and let the 3rd party games sell away....quite a clever strategy. i mean its really bad when no one bats an eyelid that PSN will be a paid for service because MS and nintendo have made such a complete mess of their consoles launches.

2) nintendo BEEPED up royal and continue to struggle to find a good use for the gamepad. they messed up like sony messed up last gen. they released a console and had absolutely no idea what to do with it. the announcement left industry veterans confused and it was just a mess. it launched and fell flat on its face.

3 MS beeped up royal too at launch. a console that is less powerful, more expensive (since corrected) and had useless extras. neither MS nor the market knew the point of it and MS have been struggeling to claw back momentum ever since.

Marketing and the abysmal launch for the other two systems.

That's more of a reaction from last gen when cows claimed they didn't count.

similar to how people pretend being in 150 countries vs 50 doesnt matter.

Ps4 launched at a lower price point, in more locations, and without localization issues that Xbox One still have. As much as people want to make this about power the difference in silicon is negligible.