Reasons for Ps4's success?

Wow, the Xbone is so hardcore lol.....

Stupid lems and their excuses as to why the Xbone is a flop.

The PS4 is a success because it had a launch that appealed to gamers as a whole. Sony won because of....

• The reputation they built with the PS3 and all their previous consoles of delivering world class exclusives like Uncharted, TLOU, God of War, GT, LBP, R&C, etc. that appeal to a broad range of gamers and not just dudebros
• Not selling off their studios like MS did and actually buying more studios to create a formidable arsenal of 1st party studios that deliver a wide range of content.
• Continuing to support their old consoles late into their lifespans with strong first party games like TLOU.
• Not having shitty gimmicks like Kinect inflating the price of their console
• Not having stupid gimmicks like Skype, TV integration, and Fantasy Sports distract them from making a gamer-friendly, fast and responsive UI
• They invested in making the most powerful console they could at the most affordable price and not releasing underpowered garbage like WiiU or a 720p/900p focused Xbone
• Fostering great relationship with indie and 3rd party devs. Not being stupid like Nintendo thinking they could go it alone without 3rd party and not being foolish like MS with their stupid parity clause that drove indies away.
• By actually making a console that appeals to the world and not just North America (see stupid NFL deals, horrible localization, tier 2 country release BS, etc.)
• Their long history in the market and more powerful brand name than MS, especially in places like Asia and Europe. PS4 was always going to sell better in places like these regardless of what MS did.
• Not trying to force DRM on gamers. I cannot emphasize this enough. Just compare the backlash MS got at E3 to the response Sony got....

Xbone was dead on arrival after this.

Can you blame them?

1st impressions where bad, so they never gave it a 2nd look.

1. Worldwide Appealing Video Games
2. Worldwide Appealing Brand Power
3. Worldwide Marketing
4. PS3 customer satisfaction. Just look at how Sony ended the PS3 - MLB The Show 13 , God of War Ascension , The Last of Us , Beyond Two Souls , Puppeteer , Ratchet &Clank Into the Nexus , and Gran Turismo 6. They just didn't drop the PS3 like a bad habit when they easily could have. They did the same thing the previous gen with PS2. Not only do PS fans know what Playstation is about , but people on the outside looking in will notice too eventually if a pattern appears. You can't go wrong with a PS console. The customer satisfaction can span generations deep.

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1. Pricepoint
2. Release timing / countries released in
3. Big controller improvement
4. Party Chat
5. Sharing / community features
6. PS+ offerings - Microsoft was LTTP and a joke when they finally arrived
7. Power advantage
8. Not only was the system easy to develop for , the tools were more mature than the Bone's in the early going and Sony put the work and money in courting 3rd parties. Microsoft had their heads in the clouds while their fingers were up each others butts .3rd party support on PS4 dwarfs the Bone's.All of the other PS4 positives help inspire publisher / developer confidence.
9. Word of mouth / friends - snowball effect

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1. Xbone pricepoint / Kinect required lmfao
2. Xbone wordwide release dates , countries released in , and how they treat their customers overseas
3. Xbox wordwide brand power and marketing lol.
4. Xbone worldwide Appealing Games. They at least tried last gen with Lost Odyssey , Blue Dragon , and other various attempts. Scalebound is just a drop in an ocean of potential. They stopped caring and stopped spending like they once did.
5. Nintendo failed to come up with a successful gimmick and 3rd parties bailed on them or were never fully there from the get go. Sony really only has to compete with Nintendo in Asia right now.
6. Microsoft tried to pull some major bullshit pre-release and said some really stupid things. Some of that putrid stench still lingers.
7. The Xbox community itself. It's so young and/or so immature with the Minencraft / Call of Duty/ Halo / Xbox Live combo already. Just look at the fanboys here , on youtube , and the rest of the internet. Who really wants to be around that when they really don't have to be? Missing out on a few a few generic hyped up shooters / racers is not a big deal in the end. There's always plenty of those to choose from on PS4.
8. Other Xbone missteps - the console is pretty weak , the ontroller took numerous steps backwards (you're going to have to shell out the big bucks for a good contoller) , the UI and ease of use was atrocious and is still behind where it should be , the ugly scaler is still present , and the game installs are too long , achievements are popping late or not at all , and lots of games headed to PC. They almost completely abandoned one of the key advertised ventures of the machine in the beginning which was all of the original programming that was promised. Bait and switch. What a mess.

I'm not knocking the Ps4, on the contrary I want to see lots of great exclusives come out for the console; last year was very weak for me, other than a couple of titles and remasters. I'm merely talking about exclusive games. This year does look promising instead. I have higher expectations from Sony than from Microsoft when it comes to exclusives. I personally haven't bought any of the 2 because as far as the exclusive library is concerned, they don't really offer that much (yet).

I try not to play the blame game with anything. Nobody is perfect, and everyone can take blame for something.

1st impressions were bad, but you also don't read a book by it's cover. One of those people is on my Live friends list with an Xbox One he bought this holiday so the second look does happen.

@MonsieurX: You need some salve for your butt?

@quadknight: Wow, talk about a highlight reel.

Top fails and wins are of the chart.

@Ant_17: @quadknight:

the only reason why xbox lost this gen is

the always online mandatory kinect.

@commander: Yeah, but i was more iffed by Nelson when he talked to Angry Joe.

But then again i hated that guy ever since i saw him on my 360

I honestly dont see the ps4's succuss unless I am on gamespot or ign. Where I live at in Alabama, WAY more people own a XB1. I honestly cannot think of anyone that I know that has a ps4 besides my self(which I have all 3 platforms+pc). Out of my work friends, they all have xb1. The past 2 Christmases I know at least 20 people that I work with that got their kids an xb1. No one ever talks about PS4. Walmart and Gamestop in my town has their ps4 section in the very back and doesnt have nowhere near the shelf space as xb1. Heck the wii u has more shelf space at our walmart the ps4.

Now I contrast that to what I see on the internet and it boggles my mind that it is so different than everything I see or hear "word of mouth". So I asked my brother(former gamer but doesnt keep up with it much these days, he has 6 kids...the youngest is 5 and the oldest is 17) what is the most popular gaming system where he lives in Kentucky? He said, "Well all my friends I work with has a xb1. And I know countless people through work, church, the kids school that bought xb1 for their kids for Christmas" I asked him what about the ps4? And he told me that he didnt know anyone that has one but hes seen them at walmart.

So I dunno where all these ps4 owners live??? I dont really game online, so i couldnt tell you how many people are online in ps4 games. Whats weird is according to vgchartz and othe reports, Black ops 3 sold on ps4 more than xb1. I dont like cod but i was in gamestop the day bo3 came out and I seen at least 20 people come in there to pick up their reserved copy of bo3 on xb1 and i didnt see anyone get it for ps4. The stack of ps4 versions never changed.

Slightly more powerful than the Xbox on. It also helps that the reception for the Xbox One was so bad in the being all Sony had to say is we aren't the Xbox One.

The Uncharted Port didn't fail. It sold 4 million copies.

Microsoft at least dropped the ball in northern EU with their localization shit which lead to the console arriving roughly a year late, so you'd have to order it from somewhere else(obviously most people didnt want to do that and got ps4 that was available) and well people buy the console their friends already have which was the ps4.

Here in europe, it is vice versa. Nearly everybody has a PS4 and nobody a One.

Source? Uncharted 1-2-3 sold about 21 millions in their lifetime. So you're telling us this remaster sold 4 millions in 2 months

It fell off quickly the charts and probably sold only because it was included in all the PS4 bundles.

http://www.craveonline.com/culture/923777-uncharted-nathan-drake-collection-underperformed-sony-ps4

The most Important reason was that Xbox Fucked up . the reveal was terrible , way too much focus on non-gaming stuff , the Console looked stupid and even worse was the DRM and Second hand game policies and later there was the 500$ price and forced Kinect , then the 1080p vs 720p argument . of course since Phil spencer was the head of Xbox , Xbox One got better each day but the damage was way too much and its simply impossible for Xbox one to reach PS4 and PS4 has became the default console . even thought I think Xbox One is a great console right now .

this isn't the first time this happens . the opposite happened with PS3 and Xbox 360 , the real reason that Xbox 360 was so successful was that PS3 fucked up at the start with 600$ price .

so bad choices by the competing company is the main reason for PS4 success .

Wow

Yup, outstanding sales.

Nathan Drake Collection sales soar by 999%

That's twice as much as Halo 5 sold.

PS4's success is due to MS's cocky/horrible unveiling of the Xbox One. MS provided no reasons or showed people what exactly they were trying to do with the Xbox One they just came out and said "we said so, and you'll like it". People didn't like that, they whined, Xbox One got changed. I almost went and got a PS4, because I was interested in what MS was originally going to do with Xbox One. I wanted more than just PS3/360.5's and that's all we got with PS4's and Xbox One's a small graphics bump.

A PS4 still caters to the Sony crowd, Sony has always been a great single player games experience and weeaboo games. And it still is, I don't know why people are going to that system and expecting more, they are the ones disappointed and they should of stuck with Xbox. Xbox is still multiplayer oriented that's their focus and most of there games appeal to that crowd.

MS kinda fucked up by letting the COD contract go to PS4 but who can blame them they got burned with the awfulness of Ghosts and Advanced Warfare, who knew Black Ops 3 would bring COD sales back up so much and be decent again.

So far my only grip with MS/XB1 is they need to get on this PC/Xbox One cross play, it's the one of the reasons they lost out on SFV. They aren't having it in Rocket League either doesn't make sense, they say Killer Instinct will have it but they are letting other dev's do it and IMO that's the only area MS is dropping the ball in.

PS1 and PS2 smoked the competition. PS3 still outsold 360 despite launching a year late and costing $600. PS4 is Sony's natural place on the market when they launch on time at a reasonable price.

@reavis86: wel, come to New York than way more people have who own a PS4 rather than the Bone.

No it didn't. Cows keep saying this but the official numbers don't back that up. Keep clinging to that hope cows, PS3 was a failure.

@NathanDrakeSwag: now that I can use my Xbox One Elite controller on the PS4 I may give it a try. There just isn't anything worth getting a PS4 to play. All my friends play Multiplats on Xbox One, I don't play very much single player, and I don't play Weeaboo games. I was super amped for Street Fighter IV and was let down, so SFV isn't doing it for me. There are no new Twisted Metal games. What's the point of shelling out $275+ for a PS4? I'm content and satisfied with what I got. I don't ride hype trains, I get something I know I will use.

You can find a number of sources that go both ways. A lot of them say the PS3's lifetime sales were higher, while an equal number says the same about the X360. The net result is that neither of those has any significant lead over the other in terms of sales. They sold roughly the same amount.

And no, the PS3 isn't a "failure". That's a gross exaggeration. It didn't dominate the market the way the PS1 and the PS2 did, but it did very well in almost every way possible. Microsoft succeeded in what they were originally attempting to do, which was to break Sony's dominance in the market, but as the PS4 perfectly illustrates, that success, too, was only temporary.

@kingtito: it's still a valid argument both PS3 and Xbox 360 finished out selling 80 million consoles+ and 360 came out a year before so PS3 wasn't in any way a failure.

Just because I don't prefer or play single player heavy games like TLOU or Uncharted doesn't mean there isn't a successful market out there for those types of games and PS3 was the place to play those. Cows are just socially awkward apparently lol ;)

Better hardware than Xbox one and starting price duh. Certainly not for its exclusives so far lol

The reason it's so successful is because Microsoft and Nintendo were fucking idiots.

Pretty much this.

I have so many friends that jumped shipped from the 360 to PS4, when MS tanked their E3 2013, everyone and their mothers went the route of the PS4, which also influenced my decision (along with the cheaper price tag and beefer system)

The Xbone is not a bad system, but the launch price and e3 crap really destroyed its image, however its nice to see it bouncing back.

@khoofia_pika@xxyetixx I'm calling it a failure strictly from the stand point that it came off the highest selling console ever. It lost Sony all the profits it gained from both the PS1 and PS2 and even Sony thought of it as a failure. PS3 failing in Sony's eyes are the reason the PS4 is what it is today.

I know it sold 80m+ and in reality it's not a failure but I wasn't talking in those terms. Just from the point of view of what preceded it and what Sony thought.

Smaller, more efficient, has better running hardware, and has the worlds largest number of in house development teams out of any of the console makers. So ya makes sense it sells more then the others.

Simply put, PS in a much stronger brand WW, with solid traditions and wide spread recognition!!!

Think about it, even with a year ahead start( a year and a half in some places ), snow ball effect, lower price and slightly better multiplats, ms did not manage to win over the ps brand.

How can any sane person think that without any of these mentioned advantages, xbone can stand a chance???

Add to that the worse reveal ever and you can call it a day.

On a even ground, Xbox brand is simply not a match for the playstation brand, not even close. There are two places in the world that care more or less about it and these are NA an UK. Since the xbone can't even pull ahead in these, it's over.

SW fuss about exclusives and hardware is utterly irrelevant in the real world, top selling games lists is a proof enough in that matter.

@ni6htmare01: its weird that its like that. I for one never hardly play neither. I play my pc more. I just have the xb1 and ps4 for exclusives. With over 36million ps4s sold and around 20 million or less xb1s, it would seem that I would see more ps4s in public. But the xb1 is only about a million and a half less in the us than the ps4. And the gap was smaller. It explains certa8n parts of america being pro-xb1

Everyone is acting like Sony wasn't already a top dog the industry by the time the PS4 came out. The reality is, the PS4 didn't have to be a groundbreaking console. It just needed to have a relatively more positive consumer perception. That's like looking for a long list of reasons why a particular iPhone model was a success. Yes, it may have a few attractive traits compared to the less successful models, but at the end of the day, it's an iPhone, and it's Apple. It does not need a revolutionary feature to sell well.

Besides, this gen makes 3 out of 4 Sony consoles having sold really really well. So there's no need to look for reasons where there may be none....as if the PS4 is Sony's first break into the industry.

A mixture of right price point, capitalising on MS's cock ups at launch and it being good bang for buck as a console.

I own both and ps4 drew me in first purely cause the price point was just right at the time and it edged it on the power side of things despite the difference being totally negligible unless you pull out a magnifying glass.

1) built in fanbase - Sony consoles no matter what will always sell well. They have more loyal fans then Nintendo or MS that will buy then regardless

2) Competition failed - Nintendo came out way behind and MS shot themselves in the foot

3) Cheaper and more power

4) Early lead - means more people will go with what their friends got when they upgrade now

and apple has over 1 million apps in their app store. quantity =/= quality

Lights on the controller, kids love lights on their toys.

Haven't got a clue

On top of all of the launch issues for MS, I'd like to think a lot of consumers learned their lesson from the RROD fiasco from last generation also. Once bitten, twice shy. If I have a bad experience with an electronic product, I usually never end up buying from that company again. I had a POS 2nd generation iPod and have never owned an (cr)Apple product since.

I also think Sony consoles have a more loyal core of consumers than Microsoft.

@khoofia_pika:

Well let me ask, outside of Wii coming after 360, Didn't the other consoles that won in sales came out before their Rivals?

The main reasons were the trainwrecks of wii u and xbox1 on launch

Uh, I don't really see how that relates to my post. But to answer your question, a console releasing before its competitors doesn't mean it will sell better. For example, the SNES came out after the Genesis and still sold more. This gen, the PS4 came out after the Wii U, and it has a massive lead. And, as you mentioned, the Wii came out after the Xbox 360.

So what was the reason the PS1 and PS2 were so dominant?

The 360 was a success because Sony botched the PS3's launch. It doesn't work the other way around when history goes against it.

Dude, we're just talking about the PS4 here. No one's badmouthing the PS1 or the PS2. No need to be so insecure and defensive for no reason.

History can't be ignored. Nintendo and M$ have never stood a chance against Sony when they don't botch a launch. People saying PS4 is only a success because M$ and Nintendo screwed up are lying to themselves.

@NathanDrakeSwag: Nobody said that. That is exactly my point. We're just talking about the PS4's launch here. No one came along to say something like "the PS2 was a success only because the others failed." No one did that. Which is why I said you're being unnecessarily insecure and defensive.

Plenty of people are saying its only because M$ screwed up. All I'm doing is correcting how wrong they are.

Plenty of people here are saying that for the PS4. No one said that for the PS1 and the PS2. You brought them up.

Which is why, for the third time, I'll say-

Again, the PS4 just follows the natural trajectory of Sony home consoles. PS3 was the anomaly. It's like asking why WiiU failed even though it follows the trajectory of every Nintendo home console's decline if you remove Wii from the equation.

PS4's success has nothing to do with its competitors.