Reasons why the Last of Us is the start of Next Gen.

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#151 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="spiderluck"] Cows are in church man...praying for a miracleThe_Game21x

V.S the 360:

More higher rated exclusives - Check

Reliable Hardware - Check

No hidden fees - Check

More variety in exclusives in the AAA rating category - Check

It seems like to me that God have answered us before we even started praying. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:

The 360's hardware is reliable and none of the Xbox Live fees are "hidden".

And if we're doing comparisons...

The 360 has more variety overall, better sales, better multiplatform titles, more games and a better online service.

Just sayin...

1. While the new 360S are far more reliable than the older 360, it's % still doesn't matches the ps3 or the Wii reliable % to this day, as seeing that the RROD was the biggest issues with the 360, but not the only.;)

2. So you can just buy a 360, take it home, and right straight out of the box, put a game on, and play online without ANY other methods being utilized??!?!!! You can't, and the price of XBL Gold isn't advertised on the front of the 360 boxes either. It does say on the back "in small print" that there's a fee to having XBL Gold Membership, but that's what I'm talking about when I say "hidden fees".

3. As seeing that sales =/= quality, having more sales doesn't really justifies a system in quality per say, and I never argued about the overall library of the 360 because the 360 not only get's PC shared games, but was also out a year longer than the ps3, in fact, the ps3 should be behind in exclusives as well, but it isn't.

4. Most multiplats do look better on the 360, but most of them are marginally, and aren't even noticeable without a side-by-side comparison.

5. As far as "better online service", I do agree, but I can see where someone wouldn't. XBL is far more stable to me, but for someone who's new to XBL, I can see where XBL can come off as confusing, since you still launch your xbox guide in your home page. So if someone see XBL as confusing over the PSN, I can see why one would like the PSN more than XBL.

Just sayin...;)

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#152 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"] *insert butthurt/angry comeback image here*Tessellation

we all know who is the butthurt here :cool:

We sure do.;)

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#153 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"] *insert butthurt/angry comeback image here*ermacness

we all know who is the butthurt here :cool:

We sure do.;)

butthurts defending each other to a new level.
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#154 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]

we all know who is the butthurt here :cool:

Tessellation

We sure do.;)

butthurts defending each other to a new level.

Hook, Line, Sinker!!!!!!:lol:

You're WAY too easy LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How did you know I was defending ispeakfact?

The butthurt is so massive with you that you fall into traps very easily.

Good show dude, and nevermind what your inner conscience is telling you, you make butthurt look good.:lol:

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#155 tryagainlater
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It's this gen and it looks good. Why hype it any more than that?

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#156 deactivated-57d307c5efcda
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]its on ps3, its not next gen. cows are dumbDavekeeh


It's always great to see some Lem jealousy lmao

TC that was amazing thank you for that great post. TLOU is going to be so amazing, alot of people on the internet who don't have a PS3 yet are going to get one

But he is right, are you so delusional that forget what a "gen" is?? A next gen game, is a game built for the next generation of consoles. The Last of Us is being developed for the PS3, which is a current gen console, and not it's successor, which results in, it's not a next gen game.

Needs to be developed on the PS4 for it to be considered next gen buddy, plus storytelling, I think the RPG devs figured all that out long time ago.

No doubt TLoU will be great just like everything naughty dog has done, but some people need to actually learn what these terms mean.

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#157 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="ermacness"]We sure do.;)

ermacness

butthurts defending each other to a new level.

Hook, Line, Sinker!!!!!!:lol:

You're WAY too easy LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How did you know I was defending ispeakfact?

The butthurt is so massive with you that you fall into traps very easily.

Good show dude, and nevermind what your inner conscience is telling you, you make butthurt look good.:lol:

look the butthurt was owned and now is writing long excuses to make him feel good,keep trying mr butthurt.
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1. While the new 360S are far more reliable than the older 360, it's % still doesn't matches the ps3 or the Wii reliable % to this day, as seeing that the RROD was the biggest issues with the 360, but not the only.;)

Notice how we stopped hearing about how bad the RROD was back in like 2008/2009? The 360 is reliable now. Prospective buyers have very little to worry about if they wanted to buy a 360.

2. So you can just buy a 360, take it home, and right straight out of the box, put a game on, and play online without ANY other methods being utilized??!?!!! You can't, and the price of XBL Gold isn't advertised on the front of the 360 boxes either. It does say on the back "in small print" that there's a fee to having XBL Gold Membership, but that's what I'm talking about when I say "hidden fees".

Actually, you can since the creation of a new account still gives you a free month of Live and the cost of Xbox Live is hardly hidden. Any informed consumer knows that Xbox Live costs money. If someone buys it blind without doing the research, that's on them, not Microsoft.

3. As seeing that sales =/= quality, having more sales doesn't really justifies a system in quality per say, and I never argued about the overall library of the 360 because the 360 not only get's PC shared games, but was also out a year longer than the ps3, in fact, the ps3 should be behind in exclusives as well, but it isn't.

According to Metacritic it is, but we don't count that here do we?

4. Most multiplats do look better on the 360, but most of them are marginally, and aren't even noticeable without a side-by-side comparison.

Better is better. If it were the other way around (and on the rare occasions it is...) Sony fanboys would be singing the praises of said multiplatform game.

5. As far as "better online service", I do agree, but I can see where someone wouldn't. XBL is far more stable to me, but for someone who's new to XBL, I can see where XBL can come off as confusing, since you still launch your xbox guide in your home page. So if someone see XBL as confusing over the PSN, I can see why one would like the PSN more than XBL.

The only reason I'd see for someone liking the PSN over Xbox Live is because it's free. The PSN still has a way to go before it can say it has parity with Xbox Live in terms of features and the Xbox 360 UI is far easier to navigate to me but that's just my opinion. PSN Plus is certainly a step in the right direction but that costs money, doesn't it?

Just sayin...;)

Yep. Me too.

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#160 heretrix
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This didn't come from AtariKid, it came from Official PlayStation Magazine, so it is very credible.

GamerwillzPS

:lol:

Jeez.

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#161 heretrix
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Lol at all butthurt Lems! This didn't come from AtariKid, it came from Official PlayStation Magazine, so it is very credible. The whole 'next-gen' thing is partially true, it's the game that has next-gen feel to it, not the hardware. The Last of Us is something that all next-gen consoles are expected to follow.

I know it hurts for Lems to see. They've got to face the truth for once. The PS3 is more powerful and the huge advantage of Blu-ray, hence the game would be impossible on the 360.

ispeakfact

Uh...no it's not.

It's either on next generation hardware or it's not next gen.

This shouldn't be a difficult concept to undestand.

I think what's implied here is that this game is so advanced, it jumps gens into the next one. Hence, the ps3 is a gen jumping console. It's just that powerful with the exclusives to back it up. You know...not that difficult concept to understand. :cool:

Except everything you said was bullsh!t.

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#162 ThePoliteArtist
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If a cliche setting and a predictable storyline is what the next gen is going to be associated with; I'll pass.
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#163 clr84651
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its on ps3, its not next gen. cows are dumbmems_1224

Cows aren't dumb. Just some of them just as some lems and some Sheep.

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#164 Mazoch
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http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2012/08/03/7-reasons-the-last-of-us-is-next-gen-now/

1.) Suble Storytelling

This isntAngry Men With Guns II, its a tale of a man whos done questionable things in the past charged with transporting a young girlacross a near feral America. Ellie has describedJoel asa violent thug, a brutal killer and a torturerand shes on his side. The combination of world weary guilt and youthfullynaïvecuriosityis an interesting mix. And with much of the exposition andcharacterdevelopment coming as much from in-gamedialogueas it does from beautifully acted cut scenes this is going to be quite the tale.


2.) Violence Means Something

Most games make death such a casual thing that it literally becomes a press button event. The Last Of Us takes a different route the violence is there but it resonates with meaning and ramifications. This is a game about ordinary people simply trying to not die, both you and the enemy. No special training or powers, justsurvivalof thefittest. Underlining the far moretangible motivations is a shocking sense of impact to it all; frenzied beatings, guns that feel like ugly and heavy tools rather thanbeautifullydesigned machines. Youve only youve only got to watch the closing moments of thisThe Last Of Us gameplayto see how killing leaves a mark not a score.

3.)It's not all about the Monsters.

Usually when a game has a monster/power/gimmickit revolves around it like a planet in orbit, tied to, and bound by, it inescapably. Here these fungus-infected zombie folk are the cause of the events in the game but little else. The disease has broughtcivilisationto its knees but as a result the biggest threat is other people, not monsters. Theyre there, and always a threat, but are an ingredient rather than the whole cake. Because The Last Of Us isnt beholden to its monsters it opens up the narrative and potential action in so many ways. It also means theyll be so much more powerful when they do appear in-game. Think about it: that thing might look scary the first time, but third? Tenth? Compare that to another dirty, twitchysurvivor encounter that could go either way


4,)It's Going to be Tough.

Not in a punishing way, more a challenge. For starters theres no regenerating health, you need to use med packs to heal. Plus Naughty Dog have talked aboutThe Last Of Us live inventory management and dynamic stealth- you cantpausethe action to craft weapons for example. Enemies will eventually notice if their friends startdisappearing as well, meaning stealth isnt an automatically safe option. Ammo is also super rare. You might not want to risk tackling a rival group of survivors but you might have to if theres nothing in yourrucksackbut dreams.


5.)It's Next-Gen Acting.

If anyone can do incredible videogame acting its Naughty Dog. Theyve had three Uncharted games to flex their dramatic chops and perfect those skills. Now everything theyve learned is going into The Last Of Us. The level of emotion displayed so far has been been believable enough to pass right through Wow Im watching a great looking video game and straight into Im watching a great story territory. And a big part of that is the cast. With Troy Baker andAshley Johnson playing Joel and EllierespectivelyNaughty Dog has made them as much a part of the games development as any programmer or artist. There have been script rewrites andcharacterdesigntweaks as a result of their performances, and the rapportbetween the two on screen is one of the games biggest strengths.


6.)It's Beautiful.

Its the little things that really make The Last Of Us pop visually. The way that sun lit walls seem to almost glow slightly, how Joel flexes his hands when hes thinking and the way the animation has its own AI pulling out movements and blending them depending on theenvironment and things around you. Everything Naughty Dog learned about blending motion caption, hand animation and procedural stuff is combined with a mastery of the PS3 great than even Sonys own engineers. This will quite possibly be the absolute peak of current gen graphics.


7.)It's Not A Traditional Post-Apocalypse.

This is important: this isnt the usual end of the world, all scorched earth and brown dust. This is a world thatd ended within the lifetime of most of the people its left behind. It totally changes the context because instead ofsurvivorslooking on ruins generations later, its all familiar everyday remains that are almosttauntingthe ones who lived. This is asocietystill grieving for what its lost, the transition to a strange other world future still hundreds of years away. A beautiful counterpoint to it all is Ellie who, at 14, has nomemoryof what came before. It leaves herwith a burning curiosity of a world shes never seen but can sense in the ruins of both the buildings and people around her.

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1) Suble Storytelling

Nothing new here. Heavy Rain, Ferenheit, Alan Wake plus most survival horror games have done this to some extent. The next concern is if Naughty Dog have what it takes to pull off subtle story telling. Remember that for all the praise that Uncharted 2 gets, they've never even tried to tell an emotionally stirring story. If someone told me that Michael Bay was making a movie that focused on subtle storytelling I'd be more than a little skeptical. Naughty Dog has never told a story that went beyond 'kinda like Indiana Jones'.

2.) Violence Means Something

The idea that violence carries a real impact will only hold if the whole game treats violence as something rare and unique. If that's the case we still need to see what you'll do for the rest of the 95% of the time. If not, violence will be just as common and generic as in other survival horror shooters.

3.) Its not all about the Monsters.

Really.. that's supposed to be unique? That's pretty much at the heart of most zombie genre movies, books and a fair number of the games. It's not a bad idea, it works well and it's part of the genre, but it's about as innovative as Mario jumping on turtles.

4,)It's Going to be Tough.

Not regenerating health is next gen now?! I dont even... As for brutal, unforgiving and not pausing the game while browsing your inventory, try Day Z now THAT is unforgiving (that does not automatically mean that its better or worse, just that Last of Us is not offering anything new here).

5.)It's Next-Gen Acting.

Again, that's a helluva an assumption to make before playing the game. I agree that Naughty Dog has a history of superb voice acting and presentation and hopefully that will be one of the core strengths of the game. But again remember that theyve never even tried to do script, voice acting and storytelling with any emotional impact before. This is not territory where they've proven themselves yet.

6.)It's Beautiful.

It is, but no more so than Uncharted 2 and 3 and those games are certainly not next gen. Compared to the high end stuff on the PC it's not outstanding its simply solid graphics with a lot of polish. That is impressive and worthy of praise, but that does not make it something new to the industry.

7.)It's Not A Traditional Post-Apocalypse.

Again, nothing all that new. big city in ruins? How is that innovative or unique? Look at Enslaved for example. Look at Day Z, look at Im Alive.

People might want to remember that Naughty Dog is not a company that became famous for innovating or moving the industry forward, they became famous for doing what others had done already for a decade but doing it really really well. Note for example that there is very very little in Uncharted 1-3 that Lara Croft hadnt already done to the point of repetition. It just did it really well.

Last of Us looks like itll be a lot of fun (at least I think so). But theres not really anything there that is going to show us anything we havent already seen before. Its going to be a pretty linear third person shooter with lots of cut scenes, dialog and focus on the two main characters Kinda like Enslaved but better realized.

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#165 spiderluck
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Might not be bad as sony's swan song as they exit out of the business

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Play....Station....Magazine.... Hyping..... a Play...Station.... Exclusive....... 10 hour...... graphic whoring, mediocre gameplayed..... linear..... Third person shooter... Cool story.
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#167 layton2012
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TL: DR So it's tough, tell me it has at least a 10 hr story and it's permadeath and if you die you start from the beginning then I'll believe it's tough.
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#168 Pray_to_me
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The Hermits and Lemmings being spoonfed generic and boring shooters like Halo and Crysis year after year and love it. Of course they wouldn't have an interest in this excellent game.

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#169 Tessellation
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The Hermits and Lemmings being spoonfed generic and boring shooters like Halo and Crysis year after year and love it. Of course they wouldn't have an interest in this excellent game.

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aren't you the dweller always talking about Killzone 2 and 3? yet you use the word GENERIC :lol:
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#170 Lucianu
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Play....Station....Magazine.... Hyping..... a Play...Station.... Exclusive....... 10 hour...... graphic whoring, mediocre gameplayed..... linear..... Third person shooter... Cool story.MBirdy88

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#171 PinnacleGamingP
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welcome to next gen folks, welcome to.......The Last of Us.