Red Dead Redemption is a Masterpiece

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#101 TheEpicGoat
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I agree

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#102 Vaasman
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Hell no. I liked a lot about it but there was a lot wrong with it too, and it's in no way a masterpiece.

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#103 Cloud567kar
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It was a good game, but theres nothing to do after your done.

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#104 Head_of_games
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Dumbest. Ending. Ever. So no.
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#105 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Dumbest. Ending. Ever. So no.

I loved the ending except for all the annoying yelps that Jack said "WORK YA DAMN NAG!"
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#106 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Dumbest. Ending. Ever. So no.

I loved the ending except for all the annoying yelps that Jack said "WORK YA DAMN NAG!"

:lol: Aah yes.
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#107 sethman410
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To me it is a masterpiece. The biggest reason is because there aren't enough high quality Western games. But really other than that, it's excellent in every category.
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#108 tempest91
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I thought it was a colossal bore myself, but i guess that's what opinions are for.

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#109 Head_of_games
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[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Dumbest. Ending. Ever. So no.GunSmith1_basic
I loved the ending except for all the annoying yelps that Jack said "WORK YA DAMN NAG!"

I'm sorry, but it just made no F***ing sense.

[spoiler] Who the hell walks right into the middle of twenty well-armed enemies ant tries to shoot them?!?! Had that not been a cutscene, I'd have handed their asses to them. [/spoiler]

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#110 Wiimotefan
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Great game, but masterpiece? That's not a word I throw around so easily, so no.

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#111 Dead-Memories
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it's definitely one of the most well-made authentic pieces of video game entertainment ever released.

i'd say it is a masterpiece on many levels , a lot of people might not like the gameplay and claim rightfully that the game gets repetitive on some levels, but a certain level of appreciation is expected from gamers that play this game; the attention to detail and passion put into RDR deserves, at the very least, respect.

walking through armadillo and its meticulously rendered houses, passing through the frontier on a horse, everything is incredibly well done. definitely one of the few games that are worth the full 60 dollars.

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#112 m64
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Masterpiece : Yes

Better than OoT : No

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#113 soulitane
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It was a fun game but I wouldn't say it was a masterpiece.
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#114 Kiro0
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One of my absolute favorite games of this generation, gets a solid 9.5 from me. It's only not a 10 because Mexico got really boring after a while in terms of story missions. It's a masterpiece yes, but I think OoT is still better.

And to Head of Games (can't get quotes to work for some reason.):

[spoiler] He knew they wouldn't leave him and his family alone. The number of men they sent after him even after promising to leave him be made that pretty obvious. Yes he could have run. He didn't because he knew - or at least believed - that they wouldn't keep going after his family after they got him. Marston clearly loved his family very much, so it made plenty of sense to me that he would do whatever it took to protect them. One man can't fight off the entire U.S. government, game mechanics aside, so he sacrificed himself to spare his family. [/spoiler]

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#116 XenoNinja
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The game looked beautiful especially considering the overall size, but I found most of the missions boring.
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#117 Another-World
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A very good game = yes

A masterpiece = no

Better than Oot = not a valid question

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#118 outatime557
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It's not better than OoT, but there is no doubt that it's a modern materpiece, and the ending (and especially the aftermath imo) is right up there with the greatest moments of gaming ever.

I still prefer GTA IV though, I found it to be a much more replayable game than RDR, much due to fast cars combined with exaggerated though realistic looking physics and the awesome ragdoll system = hours upon hours of mindless sadistic fun. :P While in return all RDR had was the hunting & collecting elements, and the game kind of lost its merit once you've 100%'ed it.

Man, if it weren't for Rockstar I'd quit gaming long ago, lol.

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#119 drinkerofjuice
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It's a great game that fell short on a few aspects in design. In regards of it being a masterpiece, it's fairly close. Its atmosphere is one of the best out of any game this gen.
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#121 deactivated-5ec2b2cb7a41e
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I finished the game yesterday and it is one of the best games I've ever played, even better than ocarina of time

anyone agree?

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i am playing it atm and it is SO good!!!! one of the best this gen.
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#122 deactivated-5ec2b2cb7a41e
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also as a character John masrston >>>>>>>> Link. seriously he is LEAGUES more interesting.

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#123 AmayaPapaya
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Eh, not really IMO. I really liked it though. I'd give it a 9.

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#124 tagyhag
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Nope, it was almost as boring as GTA4.
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#125 lazerface216
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classic gaming, like most of the stuff rockstar puts out.

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#126 Asim90
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A great game - Yes

A masterpiece - That's a stretch.

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#127 Master_ShakeXXX
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Awesome game. One of 2010's best, but Vanquish and GoW3 were the absolute best that year.
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#128 ImaPirate0202
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Best available game depicting the wild west.

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#129 Forza4Champion
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Far from it.Randoggy
i agree. good game though
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#130 AmazingGaming
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Agreed. Amazing game, far better then GTA4.
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#131 Badosh
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No, not at all. RDR > RDR. Everything about RDR was leagues above RDR, as least mostly. Personally RDR is the true masterpiece, while RDR was just a pile of ****.
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#132 lazerface216
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Awesome game. One of 2010's best, but Vanquish and GoW3 were the absolute best that year.Master_ShakeXXX

NOTHING about god of war 3 is better than red dead redemption, NOTHING. it's a fun rental though.

i've yet to play vanquish.

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#133 AmazingGaming
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[QUOTE="Badosh"]No, not at all. RDR > RDR. Everything about RDR was leagues above RDR, as least mostly. Personally RDR is the true masterpiece, while RDR was just a pile of ****.

Yeah more midget clowns hooting and fat clowns with gatling guns and dynamite, thats what a Western game needs! Wait, what? :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzQZiztdMfE
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#134 Badosh
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[QUOTE="Badosh"]No, not at all. RDR > RDR. Everything about RDR was leagues above RDR, as least mostly. Personally RDR is the true masterpiece, while RDR was just a pile of ****.AmazingGaming
Yeah more midget clowns hooting and fat clowns with gatling guns and dynamite, thats what a Western game needs! Wait, what? :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzQZiztdMfE

Don't think you quite understand, RDr just was simply better than RDr, don't deny that one part of RDR beat the whole RDR experience put together.
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#136 the-obiwan
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is not. atleats not to me that is.
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#137 turtlethetaffer
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RDR is a 8, but it is overrated The story is hideously flawed, poorly paced, with one dimensional characters, pointless tasks, no choice except for side missions, morality system that doesn't work...etc. The story brights spots are at the begining (with Bonnie and Marshall) and the Cormac McCarthy ending. The middle sucks, especially when the three stooges (Nigel Dickens, Irish, and Seth) are introduced. This game could have easily been called Red Dead Retarded....whats with all the characters having mental problems? Most characters are either A) Stupid or B) Psychotic and clearly messed up. Look at the stranger missions...it actually gets predictable with their twists. The world is just not believable. Rockstar are overrated storytellers. Silly game critics want to praise their plots for being a movie like experience, but R* has so many flaws in their narrative, its nowhere near close. Same goes to GTAIV. Hopefully LA Noire will break this trend.texasgoldrush

I agree wit this post. Story was bad until the end.

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#138 AmazingGaming
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[QUOTE="AmazingGaming"][QUOTE="Badosh"]No, not at all. RDR > RDR. Everything about RDR was leagues above RDR, as least mostly. Personally RDR is the true masterpiece, while RDR was just a pile of ****.Badosh
Yeah more midget clowns hooting and fat clowns with gatling guns and dynamite, thats what a Western game needs! Wait, what? :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzQZiztdMfE

Don't think you quite understand, RDr just was simply better than RDr, don't deny that one part of RDR beat the whole RDR experience put together.

Whoops completely missed your joke! O well, any excuse to show clown midgets haha.
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#139 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]Awesome game. One of 2010's best, but Vanquish and GoW3 were the absolute best that year.lazerface216

NOTHING about god of war 3 is better than red dead redemption, NOTHING. it's a fun rental though.

i've yet to play vanquish.

It has better graphics and tighter controls (I still can't understand why R* related games have such bad movement), that's a start.

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]RDR is a 8, but it is overrated The story is hideously flawed, poorly paced, with one dimensional characters, pointless tasks, no choice except for side missions, morality system that doesn't work...etc. The story brights spots are at the begining (with Bonnie and Marshall) and the Cormac McCarthy ending. The middle sucks, especially when the three stooges (Nigel Dickens, Irish, and Seth) are introduced. This game could have easily been called Red Dead Retarded....whats with all the characters having mental problems? Most characters are either A) Stupid or B) Psychotic and clearly messed up. Look at the stranger missions...it actually gets predictable with their twists. The world is just not believable. Rockstar are overrated storytellers. Silly game critics want to praise their plots for being a movie like experience, but R* has so many flaws in their narrative, its nowhere near close. Same goes to GTAIV. Hopefully LA Noire will break this trend.turtlethetaffer

I agree wit this post. Story was bad until the end.

What really makes me mad is Bonnie, the BEST character ion the game, just completely disappears from the story until the end after she is hanged but survives. She is not even EASED out of the story, the McFaralane's just vanish. The greatness of the story vanishes at this point as well. Now I have to deal with the three idiots....with more idiots in Mexico, and some more in Blackwater. In fact Reyes gets WORST character in the game. Rockstar just doesn't know how to weave tones together....its irriatating, and the rebel leader highlights this flaw.
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#141 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]Awesome game. One of 2010's best, but Vanquish and GoW3 were the absolute best that year.FIipMode

NOTHING about god of war 3 is better than red dead redemption, NOTHING. it's a fun rental though.

i've yet to play vanquish.

It has better graphics and tighter controls (I still can't understand why R* related games have such bad movement), that's a start.

RDR's graphics were better, espeically artistically than GOW. RDR is more inspired than GOW III as well. GOW III is just a corporate game nothing more.
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#142 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]RDR is a 8, but it is overrated The story is hideously flawed, poorly paced, with one dimensional characters, pointless tasks, no choice except for side missions, morality system that doesn't work...etc. The story brights spots are at the begining (with Bonnie and Marshall) and the Cormac McCarthy ending. The middle sucks, especially when the three stooges (Nigel Dickens, Irish, and Seth) are introduced. This game could have easily been called Red Dead Retarded....whats with all the characters having mental problems? Most characters are either A) Stupid or B) Psychotic and clearly messed up. Look at the stranger missions...it actually gets predictable with their twists. The world is just not believable. Rockstar are overrated storytellers. Silly game critics want to praise their plots for being a movie like experience, but R* has so many flaws in their narrative, its nowhere near close. Same goes to GTAIV. Hopefully LA Noire will break this trend.texasgoldrush

I agree wit this post. Story was bad until the end.

What really makes me mad is Bonnie, the BEST character ion the game, just completely disappears from the story until the end after she is hanged but survives. She is not even EASED out of the story, the McFaralane's just vanish. The greatness of the story vanishes at this point as well. Now I have to deal with the three idiots....with more idiots in Mexico, and some more in Blackwater. In fact Reyes gets WORST character in the game. Rockstar just doesn't know how to weave tones together....its irriatating, and the rebel leader highlights this flaw.

I agree. I disliked the majority of the characters. And Reyes is probably one of the worst of them all.

IMO the game was at it's best in the last "set" of missions as far as story goes, but the gameplay was just boring... any mission in the game that didn't involve shooting was bad.

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#143 Heil68
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I think it's a fantastic open-world game, I don't think I'd call it a masterpiece but it's a game that I really enjoyed.fabz_95
Same, really loved playing it.
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#144 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

NOTHING about god of war 3 is better than red dead redemption, NOTHING. it's a fun rental though.

i've yet to play vanquish.

texasgoldrush

It has better graphics and tighter controls (I still can't understand why R* related games have such bad movement), that's a start.

RDR's graphics were better, espeically artistically than GOW. RDR is more inspired than GOW III as well. GOW III is just a corporate game nothing more.

It has great draw distance, some beautiful vistas, but nothing in it was more impressive than the boss fights in GOW3 showing off a huge scale. Then there's polish which is another category GOW3 has RDR beat, RDR has too much pop in and some bad framerate drops to be on the same level of graphical polish.

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#145 Meinhard1
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Everyone has their favorite games. I would give Donkey Kong Country 2 a 10 even though most would probably give it around 8.0.
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#146 archvile_78
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An excellent game but not the best.

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#147 AmazingGaming
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[QUOTE="Meinhard1"]Everyone has their favorite games. I would give Donkey Kong Country 2 a 10 even though most would probably give it around 8.0.

Who'd give it an 8.0? It's definitely a 9 or 10.
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#148 outatime557
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Everyone has their favorite games. I would give Donkey Kong Country 2 a 10 even though most would probably give it around 8.0.Meinhard1

Donkey Kong Country 2 is the second best platformer ever after Super Mario World. There's no doubt it's a 10.

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#149 meetroid8
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Well besides all of the generic, boring missions where it tried to be a shooter.
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#150 Mr_Cumberdale
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Nah, it was a good game, but never stood out to me. OOT remains king.