REDFALL looks incredibly rough, but its time to predict its score.

Probably looking weakest Arkane title yet.

Dishonored, Prey, Deathloop are masterpieces and now this? online only Coop game but they also call it single player?

its wait and see.

Arkane is a good studio but since this is an Xbox Studios release I am giving it a 6/10. Its by Xbox studios, releases under that banner usually hilariously f**k something up so bad we will bring it up for years.

I would highly suggest y'all to read the comments in that ign video. Shit's gold🤣🤣🤣Butthurt lems are always pretending like SW's opinion is just a tiny demographic that doesn't mean anything, but youtube comments are everyone, be it casuals and your core gamer. Have a peek at what they're thinking about this game LOL

Based on that it doesn’t look like it’ll get above a 7

And i think that we're being too generous with a 7. My officially prediction has dropped to a 6.

6. I dont see anything special

Look, I haven't been that impressed from what I've seen of it from the beginning & I wasn't a fan of Deathloop either (I hope Arkane goes back to Dishonored-style games tbh)... but you cows need to seriously get a life.

I don't know why, but your post made me giggle irl. Its like some of you are pissed off that we, cows, are NOT ignoring your gamepass exclusives, and are actually showing them to the public in broad daylight😂I understand, MS exclusives are looking so rough as of late you'd prefer nobody makes any threads about them, ignores them completely, and let them come out under a table, and hope nobody notices.

The current microsoft situation is something we've never seen before, even during the dark Xbone days.

@hardwenzen said:

@hrt_rulz01 said:

Look, I haven't been that impressed from what I've seen of it from the beginning & I wasn't a fan of Deathloop either (I hope Arkane goes back to Dishonored-style games tbh)... but you cows need to seriously get a life.

I don't know why, but your post made me giggle irl. Its like some of you are pissed off that we, cows, are NOT ignoring your gamepass exclusives, and are actually showing them to the public in broad daylight😂I understand, MS exclusives are looking so rough as of late you'd prefer nobody makes any threads about them, ignores them completely, and let them come out under a table, and hope nobody notices.

The current microsoft situation is something we've never seen before, even during the dark Xbone days.

^^^ This, ladies and gentlemen, is the result of system wars consuming your life 24/7. Incoherent drivel. Very sad.

Anyway, I'm sure there will be an audience for the game. Doesn't look like my cup of tea, but either do most of Sony's exclusives 🤷‍♂️

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@hardwenzen said:

@hrt_rulz01 said:

Look, I haven't been that impressed from what I've seen of it from the beginning & I wasn't a fan of Deathloop either (I hope Arkane goes back to Dishonored-style games tbh)... but you cows need to seriously get a life.

I don't know why, but your post made me giggle irl. Its like some of you are pissed off that we, cows, are NOT ignoring your gamepass exclusives, and are actually showing them to the public in broad daylight😂I understand, MS exclusives are looking so rough as of late you'd prefer nobody makes any threads about them, ignores them completely, and let them come out under a table, and hope nobody notices.

The current microsoft situation is something we've never seen before, even during the dark Xbone days.

^^^ This, ladies and gentlemen, is the result of system wars consuming your life 24/7. Incoherent drivel. Very sad.

Anyway, I'm sure there will be an audience for the game. Doesn't look like my cup of tea, but either do most of Sony's exclusives 🤷‍♂️

I struck a nerve🤡We hit the jackpot LOL

I kinda knew that you simply don't want anyone to pay attention to all these extremely rough titles that are coming out on the green side, but guess what? I will be the one in charge of exposing them, and you will hate me for it.

@ghosts4ever: “online only co op game”

That’s factually wrong

@hardwenzen said:

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@hardwenzen said:

@hrt_rulz01 said:

Look, I haven't been that impressed from what I've seen of it from the beginning & I wasn't a fan of Deathloop either (I hope Arkane goes back to Dishonored-style games tbh)... but you cows need to seriously get a life.

I don't know why, but your post made me giggle irl. Its like some of you are pissed off that we, cows, are NOT ignoring your gamepass exclusives, and are actually showing them to the public in broad daylight😂I understand, MS exclusives are looking so rough as of late you'd prefer nobody makes any threads about them, ignores them completely, and let them come out under a table, and hope nobody notices.

The current microsoft situation is something we've never seen before, even during the dark Xbone days.

^^^ This, ladies and gentlemen, is the result of system wars consuming your life 24/7. Incoherent drivel. Very sad.

Anyway, I'm sure there will be an audience for the game. Doesn't look like my cup of tea, but either do most of Sony's exclusives 🤷‍♂️

I struck a nerve🤡We hit the jackpot LOL

I kinda knew that you simply don't want anyone to pay attention to all these extremely rough titles that are coming out on the green side, but guess what? I will be the one in charge of exposing them, and you will hate me for it.

Struck a nerve? Lol, unlike you I don't take this sh*t that seriously. It's a videogame. We all know you obviously do... what an exciting life you lead 😂

Cows will be obsessed with this game whatever the score/10

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@hardwenzen said:

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@hardwenzen said:

@hrt_rulz01 said:

Look, I haven't been that impressed from what I've seen of it from the beginning & I wasn't a fan of Deathloop either (I hope Arkane goes back to Dishonored-style games tbh)... but you cows need to seriously get a life.

I don't know why, but your post made me giggle irl. Its like some of you are pissed off that we, cows, are NOT ignoring your gamepass exclusives, and are actually showing them to the public in broad daylight😂I understand, MS exclusives are looking so rough as of late you'd prefer nobody makes any threads about them, ignores them completely, and let them come out under a table, and hope nobody notices.

The current microsoft situation is something we've never seen before, even during the dark Xbone days.

^^^ This, ladies and gentlemen, is the result of system wars consuming your life 24/7. Incoherent drivel. Very sad.

Anyway, I'm sure there will be an audience for the game. Doesn't look like my cup of tea, but either do most of Sony's exclusives 🤷‍♂️

I struck a nerve🤡We hit the jackpot LOL

I kinda knew that you simply don't want anyone to pay attention to all these extremely rough titles that are coming out on the green side, but guess what? I will be the one in charge of exposing them, and you will hate me for it.

Struck a nerve? Lol, unlike you I don't take this sh*t that seriously. It's a videogame. We all know you obviously do... what an exciting life you lead 😂

I can tell

This will become my new Halo Infinite. Its looking THIS rough.

i'm with ghost on this one

Can I suggest you buy a PS5 and play some actual games.

8/10 possibly 9

Don't get the hate, looks better than most co op shooters

It's Arkane, they haven't made a bad or even a mediocre game yet. Videos usually don't do justice to their games. Having said that it's also being released by MS and as an online only game so...Still will give it a try just based on Arkane's past.

Not gonna work, come on.

Their games are usually not Destiny/Borderlands wannabes, so there's nothing usual with this one.

I think it looks quite good and this is the most interested that I’ve ever been for an Arkane game. Looking forward to playing this via Game Pass. Thinking it’ll probably get an 8/10.

Would be a major blow to Lems if this game doesn’t get at least a 9.

The fun thing about Gamepass is that scores don't matter (not like it did for me within the past 10 years). If the game scores great the cost is still the same and is part of your sub. If the game is trash, the cost is still the same and is part of your sub.🤷🏽‍♂️

I just read that thread millsy linked, you don't own a PS5. Look if you want one, I will start a go fund me page for you and donate a Redback (Aussie for $20)

So you mentioned to me that you watch people play Remnant in the lounge and now it becomes all clear. That is where you're getting your Elden Ring info from. Look there is no shame in being strapped for cash, we've all been there.

What do you say SW should we help him out? if that doesn't work out maybe we can tweet your SW history in the hope a Sony rep sees it and gives you a PS5 for your long service history.

A 7 or something, like pretty much all their games. Average stuff from an average studio.

Can you imagine how many copies this would've sold if it wasn't on gp? 70k tops😕

They are way above average.🤷🏽‍♂️

Sounds like early damage control already 😆

Most people here seem to think that. A 7 to me is an average score, and the score I give all their games that I've played so far.

Google translation; “Xbox is absolutely wrecking Sony in 2023. There’s only Spidey 2 to look forward to, and I hate Spider-Man. I have to make a bitter post to feel better about myself.”

Are you OK?

Looking like a 7/10

@hardwenzen: All those comments that I read are by Sony fanboys. Yall are the most insecure bunch of goofs on the internet.

Watch the Halo Infinite preview, and explain to me why it doesn't look anywhere near as bad? Do you think Sony haters all of a sudden stopped hating on MS's flagship title? You're delusional.

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@hardwenzen said:

@hrt_rulz01 said:

Look, I haven't been that impressed from what I've seen of it from the beginning & I wasn't a fan of Deathloop either (I hope Arkane goes back to Dishonored-style games tbh)... but you cows need to seriously get a life.

I don't know why, but your post made me giggle irl. Its like some of you are pissed off that we, cows, are NOT ignoring your gamepass exclusives, and are actually showing them to the public in broad daylight😂I understand, MS exclusives are looking so rough as of late you'd prefer nobody makes any threads about them, ignores them completely, and let them come out under a table, and hope nobody notices.

The current microsoft situation is something we've never seen before, even during the dark Xbone days.

^^^ This, ladies and gentlemen, is the result of system wars consuming your life 24/7. Incoherent drivel. Very sad.

Anyway, I'm sure there will be an audience for the game. Doesn't look like my cup of tea, but either do most of Sony's exclusives 🤷‍♂️

Could you possibly be more asshurt?

Damn looks like the comments have struck a nerve dalem. So people calling a shit game shit = insecure? projecting much bud? Lmao

Now scores and quality of games don’t matter because it’s on gamepass Lmao. This is your typical Xbox gamer ladies and gents, the standard they accept is whatever Microsoft gives them. Pathetic!

@randy_lahey: OK, altboy.

Nice retort dalem. 5/10 incoming lmao

7/10. Keep in mind however I consider that a good score for any title...I'm not some fanboy/hater that cries/celebrates when a major title scores something other than a 9 or 10.

It does look like it might be the worst Arkane title so far, but that isn't as dire as it sounds since Arkane makes only brilliant, amazing games.

As I said before, they are bound to make a "less good" game sooner or later.

This still looks fun, though.

I can see GS giving it a 6/10 just because they're Xbox hating Sony shills, and probably feeling the entitled sense of rage because they can't play it on PlayStation. Surely the MetaCritic score will dragged down by sites nobody has ever heard of from countries most people couldn't point to on a map.

But on the upside, it won't matter. 10 years ago a game's MetaCritic score could be the game's instant death. These days with Game Pass, review sites can crap all over a game and it could thrive regardless because 25-30 million subscribers can check it out for themselves at no major sacrifice, whereas 10 years ago getting people to part with $60 would be an iffy proposition for a low scoring game. High On Life on Game Pass demonstrated that despite poor reviews, people will check it out anyways, and strong word of mouth will counter-balance the shills in gaming media putting their thumbs on the scales.

So, what's it score? Don't matter to me, I'll play it anyways, make up my own mind. Seems most the hate for the game now comes from the same people who were crying and begging for it and claiming MS took it away from PlayStation and how regulators should go after MS for it. Now that the definitive answer is "no, no, never in a million years, oh hell no", now they're like "that's okay, the game is trash anyways".

I see people recently mostly critical of its graphics, which is funny because it's pretty much on par graphically with Deathloop, or Arkane's other games for that matter. Deathloop was widely celebrated for its gameplay, but the Sony Defense Force seemed fine with this back when Deathloop was a PS console exclusive. Now that Redfall won't be coming to PS consoles, suddenly these graphics are problematic. But, typical reaction given context we're all aware of.

This doesn't look like a "less good" game. This is more of a complete shift of quality. We're talking about RARE on N64 vs RARE on Xbox. Or Bioware prior to 2013 vs Bioware of nowadays.

Scores not mattering is not equal to quality not mattering. But expecting you to know the difference would be expecting too much.😂

I see that you had a sequential breakdown in this thread. I look forward to more in the future.😎

$70 for Redfall? Nope.

Game Pass for Redfall? Yep👌

The score doesn’t matter. The Lems will be pleased regardless

Something tells me this will be Microsoft's motto for this whole generation. None of their exclusives will be worth $60, let alone $70, but for "free" on gp, well, why the hell not.

Well yeah, that's the idea. MS wants everyone to join Game Pass sub revenue so you'll never have to pay $70 again...on their games. Game Pass revenue is more important to them than the $70 price tag.

You didn't get what i meant. Their games are not worth what they're charging. Remove gamepass, and the same titles are simply not worth buying for $60-70. If i had to guess, the kind of shovelware we've been seeing from them (Halo infinite, Redfall, etc), those are $29.99 titles at their best. If gamepass wasn't a thing, and $70 is what MS was charging, we would see all their games flop in sales like we've never seen before. And only then Phil would have some fire under his ass to actually deliver. As is, they're hiding behind gamepass, and its a pretty good shield to defend themselves against the critics.