Reggie: WiiU isn't aimed at the Wii market. Two products will coexist. EXPENSIVE

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#1 D4W1L4H
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Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime briefly spoke to All Things Digital about what consumers should expect from Wii U. One of the things Fils-Aime did mention is that pricing for console will be priced substantially higher than Wii and that Wii U will mainly interest consumers who want to have the latest gadgets and have a higher disposable income.

The market is going to continue to differentiate based on the types of experiences that consumers want. As an example, if I'm the head of a household of a family of four, and my disposable income is $50,000 to $60,000, I'm going to continue to look at the Wii because of the software, and it's a great entertainment device. For consumers who want to have the latest gadgets and have a higher disposable income, that's for the Wii U.


We haven't announced pricing or availability or any other details, but given the current pricing of the Wii, it's not going to be there.


We've been very clear, the market is going to decide how long these products will coexist side by side. Our goal is to launch the Wii U and drive it into the marketplace, but it will speak to a different consumer than the one that is buying the Wii today during the holidays.

Inb4 Nintendo is doomed.

Inb4 Wii U will fail.

Inb4 AtariKidX

Inb4 3DS flopped.

Inb4 Sony is doomed

Inb4 Gimmicks

Inb4 $600

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#2 RickTophen
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Argh! I cannot deal with this incompetence!
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Bomba incoming. Brace yourselves!
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#4 ceelogic
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seems to me that nintendo is making the sega mistake. Too many consoles out at one time. the ds was the same price as the 3ds last time I hit the game store, the wii should just die out cause doesn't the wii u support the wii motes anyway. Hell a new pokemon was announced for the ds, what sense does that make.

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#5 heretrix
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EXPENSIVE?

DEAD.

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#6 vashkey
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Yeah, remember when they said that about the Gameboy Advance and DS?
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#7 ChubbyGuy40
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This really makes me wonder if Wii-U has something hidden we don't know about, or Nintendo needs to find someone else for PR. That situtation Reggie gave sounds like they'd be more interested in Wii-U, not Wii. Nintendo is going to have to keep the Wii alive themselves.

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#8 Tikeio
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pricing for console will be priced substantially higher than WiiD4W1L4H

That's not good. :?

I was expecting a $250 money printer that did at least what Dolphin does to Wii games. I didn't care if it was going to be a "powerhouse."

I don't think casuals are willing to spend $300+ to play Wii Sports and 360/PS3 multiplats in HD.

Oh well.... it's still too early to predict the Wii U's success.

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#9 ZumaJones07
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Hmm...interest piqued. Can't wait for more details.
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#10 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

pricing for console will be priced substantially higher than WiiTikeio

That's not good. :?

I was expecting a $250 money printer that did at least what Dolphin does to Wii games. I didn't care if it was going to be a "powerhouse."

I don't think casuals are willing to spend $300+ to play Wii Sports and 360/PS3 multiplats in HD.

Oh well.... it's still too early to predict the Wii U's success.

Well, it didn't say if it was talking about current or launch price.

They already shot down Wii-U natively playing Wii games in HD. If they did, the hardware would've been a lot weaker and similar to the Wii.

It's not aimed at casuals. They aren't all 360/PS3 multiplats (but the ones that are will actually be HD instead of sub-HD :P.) It has a few exclusives and games such as Lego City Stories and that Dragon Quest MMO. Darksiders 2 will be a PC port, as well as Metro Last Light. Arkham City would only make sense as a PC port since it has the extra work already done. It also has that Ghost Recon Online game that'll be F2P on PC.

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#11 laus_basic
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Was thinking it would be $300 but "substantially" sounds like it'll be much more than that.
And I'm sure the heavy price tag won't be because the console is super powerful but because of that tablet controller.
Not liking the sound of that.

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#12 D4W1L4H
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seems to me that nintendo is making the sega mistake. Too many consoles out at one time. the ds was the same price as the 3ds last time I hit the game store, the wii should just die out cause doesn't the wii u support the wii motes anyway. Hell a new pokemon was announced for the ds, what sense does that make.

ceelogic

Wii released in 2006.

Wii U released in 2012

DS released in 2004.

3DS released in 2011

Sega Mega CD released in 1993

Sega 32X released in 1994

Sega Saturn released in 1994/1995

I see no similarity.

PSP released in 2005

PSV released in 2011/2012

PS3 released in 2005/2006

Now there's a similarity.

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#13 Kaze_no_Mirai
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:lol: @ the inb4 atarikid but anyway i really hope that its not expensive, i was hoping for 250 but its looking unlikely
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#14 silversix_
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"Pricing will be substantially higher than Wii" I like this unless this "substantially higher price" is because of the stupid controller. Make the console powerful and that feels *next gen* instead of betting your money on an iPad wannabe. 450$ would be perfect for me if friend codes are removed.
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#15 loosingENDS
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I will probably not buy wiiU due to the terrible controller idea, no matter the price

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#16 DireOwl
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EXPENSIVE?

DEAD.

heretrix

My thoughts exactly.

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#17 M8ingSeezun
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R.I.P. Nintendo Consoles if EXPENSIVE.

HelloForever Nintendo Handhelds :)

What we've learned from Generation 4 (Nintendo vs Sega vs NEC), Generation 5 (Nintendo vs Sega vs Sony), and Generation 6 (Nintendo vs MS vs Sony) is that THREE CONSOLES marketing towards the CORE market CANNOT possibly exist at the same time. There's always TWO after that same CORE market.

Showing Assassin's Creed, Ninja Gaiden or boasting about Battlefield 3 coming on the WiiU bandwagon doesn't exactly cut it.

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#18 Kaszilla
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The wii is currently $149.99. No **** the Wii U will be more expensive. I say $250-$300.

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#19 ChubbyGuy40
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I will probably not buy wiiU due to the terrible controller idea, no matter the price

loosingENDS

>Thinks real controller ideas are a joke

>Supports an absolute joke of control that's ruining Microsoft's image

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#20 eboyishere
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if it's over 400 they wil have a problem. even 300 is pushing it for Ninty products.
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What we've learned from Generation 4 (Nintendo vs Sega vs NEC), Generation 5 (Nintendo vs Sega vs Sony), and Generation 6 (Nintendo vs MS vs Sony) is that THREE CONSOLES marketing towards the CORE market CANNOT possibly exist at the same time. There's always TWO after that same CORE market.

Showing Assassin's Creed, Ninja Gaiden or boasting about Battlefield 3 coming on the WiiU bandwagon doesn't exactly cut it.

M8ingSeezun

Well duh. It's obvious Microsoft and Sony are going to try and capture the casual market and leave the core untapped/unsatisfied. Nintendo will swoop those people up while Microsoft and Sony will be left in the dust again.

It's still due for another "reveal" at the next E3. Why show their hand so early? So MS and Sony can copy it?

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He said the "current price" of the Wii. Which is much less than $200.

Nintendo has a history of not having the previous generation stick around that long.

We can look at the DS and 3DS coexisting now, but where are the first party games going? to the 3DS.

Nintendo never supports a previous generation that long into the next-gen life cycle.

I think this whole excerpt is being taken way out of context...

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[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

pricing for console will be priced substantially higher than WiiChubbyGuy40

That's not good. :?

I was expecting a $250 money printer that did at least what Dolphin does to Wii games. I didn't care if it was going to be a "powerhouse."

I don't think casuals are willing to spend $300+ to play Wii Sports and 360/PS3 multiplats in HD.

Oh well.... it's still too early to predict the Wii U's success.

They already shot down Wii-U natively playing Wii games in HD. If they did, the hardware would've been a lot weaker and similar to the Wii.

By "what Dolphin does to Wii games" I meant Dolphin quality Wii graphics in Wii U games.

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#24 Peredith
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I will probably not buy wiiU due to the terrible controller idea, no matter the price

loosingENDS

Don't you hype and praise Kinect to high heaven? :|

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He said the "current price" of the Wii. Which is much less than $200.

Nintendo has a history of not having the previous generation stick around that long.

We can look at the DS and 3DS coexisting now, but where are the first party games going? to the 3DS.

Nintendo never supports a previous generation that long into the next-gen life cycle.

I think this whole excerpt is being taken way out of context...

sonic_spark
ninty dont support previous generations because previously there was nothing to support. by the time the wii was released the GC was a completly dead husk of a console. nothing, nada, zip for it. retailers here even removed all GC stock completly. the N64 wasnt much better. no point beating a dead horse. despite what SW likes to think ninty are not stupid...supporting dead platforms is a waste of money and time. reggie said it himself.....the market will dictate how long the wii and wiiu co-exist. if there is still a demand for games like wii sports and just dance on the wii 2-3 years from now then support will continue. if not then they will drop it like a stone. as for the price of the wiiu....no point in making any sort of final judgement on it until we know a lot more about what comes in the box. as long as they dont do something monumentally stupid like release at 600 (ideally keep it under 450 and at 450 itll want to be making jaws drop) there isnt much point in making a final judgement of any sort.
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I am afraid the Wii U it will be the next Dreamcast..........
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#27 Lionheart08
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Yeah, remember when they said that about the Gameboy Advance and DS?vashkey

I actually think Nintendo will be pulling a page from Sony's playbook, keeping the Wii around like Sony did the PS2 for multiplats and shovelware. As bad as the PS3 was selling in the past, PS2 sells gave Sony extra cash.

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Expensive? you would think Nintendo would have learned from the 3DS.

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The market is going to continue to differentiate based on the types of experiences that consumers want. As an example, if I'm the head of a household of a family of four, and my disposable income is $50,000 to $60,000, I'm going to continue to look at the Wii because of the software, and it's a great entertainment device. For consumers who want to have the latest gadgets and have a higher disposable income, that's for the Wii U.Reggie
"It requires a significant financial investment of $59,900 US Dollars."
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#30 starjet905
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Latest gadgets? Just because it's latest, doesn't mean it's going to be picked up by a tech geek if the tech is actually no good. But then again, it all depends on the games. So still can't say anything.
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#31 ceelogic
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I've been having that same feeling and if the vite becomes the winner of the handheld wars bye bye nintendo

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I am afraid the Wii U it will be the next Dreamcast..........AtariKidX

lol..nah were going to own the playstaion for another gen!

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By "what Dolphin does to Wii games" I meant Dolphin quality Wii graphics in Wii U games.

Tikeio

Oh that's what you mean. Well I wouldn't be mad with this.

[spoiler] [/spoiler]

After seeing that Wii-U Zelda tech demo, I definitely want that. More of that picture above wouldn't be bad though too.

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#34 HarlockJC
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I am done with Sony and MS.... next gen unless my son wants a system it's going to be just the Wii U and my PC.
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#35 Chutebox
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As long as it can play Wii games, I'm all for it. I'll sell the way and make up some of the difference.

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#36 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I will probably not buy wiiU due to the terrible controller idea, no matter the price

Peredith

Don't you hype and praise Kinect to high heaven? :|

You don't know this troll, do you?
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#37 elbert_b_23
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Reggie Fils-Aime is a bit insane he is a pure business man and a hell of a good one but when it comes to games and gamers he isn't the smartest person when he opens his mouth he tends to say the stupidest things at times
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I am done with Sony and MS.... next gen unless my son wants a system it's going to be just the Wii U and my PC. HarlockJC

No 3DS or Vita? :o

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#39 JohnF111
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Shouldn't have ditched your fanbase Nintendo, this is your own doing and it appears it's not a welcome one. Just have the Wii U slightly better than Xbox and PS3 and have accessories and games for casuals, have a 50/50 split on focus for both markets, casuals won't feel neglected, "core" gamers will enjoy the support and the hardware in general will improve both of these gamer style experiences.
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As long as it can play Wii games, I'm all for it. I'll sell the way and make up some of the difference.

Chutebox



This, unless it's like, PS3 launch price. And I probably won't get it at launch anyway.

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#41 Nengo_Flow
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I think they are just saying that to get the hardcore hyped, but they will depend on the casuals to survive. Yeah they'll push for devs and erd parties to make "hardcore" games, but I dont seem them sticking to it after a while. They'll probebly have to pull a M$ and start paying and buying devs over, time exclusives, and DLC, but I only see them doing that for like the first wo years. Of course this is if they are really serious about being Hardcore. I dont think they are thought, pretty sure its a front to fool people in and get them Hyped
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#42 nitekids2004
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BS propaganda considering Wii is already in life support at the moment.

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#43 Nengo_Flow
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]I am afraid the Wii U it will be the next Dreamcast..........KBFloYd

lol..nah were going to own the playstaion for another gen!

The Wii didnt own the PS3. Yeah it sold more, but thats becuz SONY pretty much owned them selves, the Wii really didnt anything to the PS3. Nintendo didnt attack playstation at all, unlike M$ who had one thing in mind this gen and it wasnt to be #1, but to take down Playstation

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#44 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]I am afraid the Wii U it will be the next Dreamcast..........Nengo_Flow

lol..nah were going to own the playstaion for another gen!

The Wii didnt own the PS3. Yeah it sold more, but thats becuz SONY pretty much owned them selves, the Wii really didnt anything to the PS3. Nintendo didnt attack playstation at all, unlike M$ who had one thing in mind this gen and it wasnt to be #1, but to take down Playstation

You're wrong. The majority of PS2 owners were casuals and many of them flocked to the Wii.
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#45 KBFloYd
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

lol..nah were going to own the playstaion for another gen!

ActionRemix

The Wii didnt own the PS3. Yeah it sold more, but thats becuz SONY pretty much owned them selves, the Wii really didnt anything to the PS3. Nintendo didnt attack playstation at all, unlike M$ who had one thing in mind this gen and it wasnt to be #1, but to take down Playstation

You're wrong. The majority of PS2 owners were casuals and many of them flocked to the Wii.

yea fact is...both wii and microsoft used playstation as their gimp this gen..

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#46 starjet905
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BS propaganda considering Wii is already in life support at the moment.

nitekids2004
Err... No, it's so far the winner as far as real life is concerned.
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#47 Kaszilla
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Capcom will save the wii U. Monster hunter 5 confirmed.
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#48 nintendofreak_2
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Capcom will save the wii U. Monster hunter 5 confirmed.Kaszilla
MH4 isn't even out yet. :P Besides, the Wii U is getting DQX. That's all it'll need in Japan for a while because that's probably going to be in the launch window.

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#49 Zeviander
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Vague statement is vague. "Substantially" could mean $50 more, or $500 more. Also, is this "substantially" more than when the Wii launched, or the Wii currently? I'm waiting for E3. And even then, I doubt I will want to early adopt. Too many games left from this gen to play.
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#50 nini200
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Day one buy here unless they release it for $400+ like Playstation did. Then I may have to think about it. Anything under $400 is day one purchase for me.