Reggie: WiiU isn't aimed at the Wii market. Two products will coexist. EXPENSIVE

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#51 nitekids2004
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BS propaganda considering Wii is already in life support at the moment.

starjet905

Err... No, it's so far the winner as far as real life is concerned.

Even hardware sales have dwindled.

I'm talking about the "co-existing" portion. For both to co exist, both must be alive. However, Ninty seems to have pulled the plug on the Wii already with SS being the last good 1st party game.

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#52 jhcho2
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I find it funny that Nintendo justified the lackluster 2011 lineup by claiming that they are focusing on the Wii U. That would only make sense if the Wii U is to replace the Wii. Now they are saying that the Wii U will cater for a different demographic altogether. If that's the case, then they shouldn't be shifting focus at all, since the Wii and Wii U will coexist.

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#53 nintendoboy16
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seems to me that nintendo is making the sega mistake. Too many consoles out at one time. the ds was the same price as the 3ds last time I hit the game store, the wii should just die out cause doesn't the wii u support the wii motes anyway. Hell a new pokemon was announced for the ds, what sense does that make.

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Oh yeah, having two consoles around at the same time is deadly, that's Sony must be de... OH WAIT!
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#54 AmayaPapaya
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What? Please, no Nintendo. I don't want to spend more than 300$ on a console. I haven't yet and I will continue to do so. If that means never picking up the Wii U, then so be it.

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#55 madsnakehhh
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Damn, they will try to install discipline too :o

Anyway, if it is over $300 i will probably wait for a price cut, $350 if the launch titles are looking extrememly good.

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#56 Heil68
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That should make things interesting.
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#57 commonfate
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:?

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#58 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Expensive? This is GREAT news. I'm being serious. Nintendo finally realizes that gamers like technology, as well as games.

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#59 nintendoboy16
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Let's see, how much is the Wii now, like $150 right now? I can't see the Wii U being as expensive as everyone else is pointing out. I mean yeah, it will obviously be more expensive than the Wii, but I still can't see it being too high.
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#60 haziqonfire
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I'm expecting $349.99 or $399.99.

If it's $399.99 I'm definitely waiting till a price drop.

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#61 commonfate
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Expensive? This is GREAT news. I'm being serious. Nintendo finally realizes that gamers like technology, as well as games.

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My concern is that the controller is what will be expensive, not the hardware :/ If it's expensive hardware... I'm interested.

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#62 super600  Moderator
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Let's hope the console isn't too expensive.

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#63 ChubbyGuy40
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Let's see, how much is the Wii now, like $150 right now? I can't see the Wii U being as expensive as everyone else is pointing out. I mean yeah, it will obviously be more expensive than the Wii, but I still can't see it being too high.nintendoboy16

If the whole article was posted, people would've saw he was comparing to the price of the Wii now which is like, what? $100-150? $300-$500 would definitely be a lot more than whatever the Wii is.

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#64 Victorious_Fize
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I was almost sure they were striving to attract the consumers they had for the Wii..
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#65 Firebird-5
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thats what they about the GBA and the DS
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Expensive? This is GREAT news. I'm being serious. Nintendo finally realizes that gamers like technology, as well as games.

commonfate

My concern is that the controller is what will be expensive, not the hardware :/ If it's expensive hardware... I'm interested.

I'm slightly worried about that as well. However, Nintendo simply cannot sell "another" wii. The "wii" crowd that Nintendo gained this gen will not see a reason to upgrade unless it is readily apparent the upgrade is actually worth it.

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#67 BadNewsBen
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If the technology has been pushed substantially above Sony and Microsofts product, I'd be willing to pay $350 (assuming they are going to give us a strong launch lineup).
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#68 789shadow
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Nintendo: We don't even know what the Wii U is.

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#69 haziqonfire
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I don't see Nintendo pricing this thing above what they're comfortable with and what works for Nintendo. Nintendo has always been a company that waits till hardware is cheap and sells it at a profit. It's the same situation here, the controller might add to costs but the hardware is inexpensive by today's standards (as it mostly seems like a minimal jump from PS3/360).

After the 3DS didn't do as well as they expected at $249.99, I don't see them selling the Wii U at an expensive price.

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#70 layton2012
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I don't see Nintendo pricing this thing above what they're comfortable with and what works for Nintendo. Nintendo has always been a company that waits till hardware is cheap and sells it at a profit. It's the same situation here, the controller might add to costs but the hardware is inexpensive by today's standards (as it mostly seems like a minimal jump from PS3/360).

After the 3DS didn't do as well as they expected at $249.99, I don't see them selling the Wii U at an expensive price.

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This. I have faith in Nintendo after the less than perfect 3ds launch they are sure to be extra careful with the wii u launch.
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#71 ActionRemix
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That controller is not going to be nearly as expensive as everyone is expecting. It's just a resistive touch screen.
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#72 HaloinventedFPS
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im not paying over $400 for a buffed up 360

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#73 ActionRemix
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im not paying over $400 for a buffed up 360

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The Wii U GPU blows away the 360's.
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

im not paying over $400 for a buffed up 360

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The Wii U GPU blows away the 360's.

Not even close.....a bit more powerful but nothing amazing.
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#75 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

im not paying over $400 for a buffed up 360

ActionRemix

The Wii U GPU blows away the 360's.

You need that to sleep at night, don't you?

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#76 Basinboy
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Wii and Wii U will never coexist as exchangeable options. Developers arent going to keep making new games for the Wii because consumers dont care about old consoles any longer than a year after the next one has launched. Plus whats the pricing game going to put it at? You'll never get people to buy lesser quality games for the same price as Wii U games.

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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

im not paying over $400 for a buffed up 360

AtariKidX

The Wii U GPU blows away the 360's.

Not even close.....a bit more powerful but nothing amazing.

We still don't know how powerful the WiiU's GPU is.

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#78 bbkkristian
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"Pricing will be substantially higher than Wii" I like this unless this "substantially higher price" is because of the stupid controller. Make the console powerful and that feels *next gen* instead of betting your money on an iPad wannabe. 450$ would be perfect for me if friend codes are removed.silversix_
Did Nintendo drown your goldfish (if you know where I got this from, brofist to you :P ) or something? You hate on them on every thread.

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[QUOTE="silversix_"]"Pricing will be substantially higher than Wii" I like this unless this "substantially higher price" is because of the stupid controller. Make the console powerful and that feels *next gen* instead of betting your money on an iPad wannabe. 450$ would be perfect for me if friend codes are removed.bbkkristian

Did Nintendo drown your goldfish (if you know where I got this from, brofist to you :P ) or something? You hate on them on every thread.

They probably scared him really badly one day.

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#80 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]The Wii U GPU blows away the 360's.super600

Not even close.....a bit more powerful but nothing amazing.

We still don't know how powerful the WiiU's GPU is.

We know it's based off of the chip used for these tech demos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YjXCae4Gu0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2fS9covXBs
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wait a second .... so this guy thinks that a man who has $50,000 - $60,000 disposable income (meaning after bills, food, car , insurance, mortgage , debt, etc.... so the peroson would need to make at least $75-100k a year , I don't even make a 3rd of that..) would be who would be buying a wii? and what the person with more money...meaning someone who has 75-100k disposable income and makes 200k-1mil a year will be buying wii-u? What the hell? In this economy that isn't going to happen. Many people don't have jobs or aren't getting raises because the market sucks. I don't think so Nintendo..and if you think only rich people making 75-100k a year are the ones buying a wii .you are wrong reggie. Most wii buyers were soccor moms who don't even work or who are poor...because the console was cheap. This wii-u is not gonna hit too good I will say that. Is it just me or does Reggie kinda sound like Ken Kutarai in this interview....two jobs for wii-u.... Not everyone makes your salary reggie. Hell most working adults make under 40k with maybe 15k disposable... just saying.
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#82 Fizzman
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Nintendo burned their hardcore bridges with the Wii. Nintendo is no longer on my radar for videogames.

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#83 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]wait a second .... so this guy thinks that a man who has $50,000 - $60,000 disposable income (meaning after bills, food, car , insurance, mortgage , debt, etc.... so the peroson would need to make at least $75-100k a year , I don't even make a 3rd of that..) would be who would be buying a wii? and what the person with more money...meaning someone who has 75-100k disposable income and makes 200k-1mil a year will be buying wii-u? What the hell? In this economy that isn't going to happen. Many people don't have jobs or aren't getting raises because the market sucks. I don't think so Nintendo..and if you think only rich people making 75-100k a year are the ones buying a wii .you are wrong reggie. Most wii buyers were soccor moms who don't even work or who are poor...because the console was cheap. This wii-u is not gonna hit too good I will say that. Is it just me or does Reggie kinda sound like Ken Kutarai in this interview....two jobs for wii-u.... Not everyone makes your salary reggie. Hell most working adults make under 40k with maybe 15k disposable... just saying.

He meant a FAMILY with $50k disposable income. That's around minimum wage.
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#84 nitekids2004
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The sweet spot fora systemis around $300 to $350. Anything above I'd consider as expensive.

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We know it's based off of the chip used for these tech demosActionRemix

The RV770 was just rumored, nothing confirmed. You should know that.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"] Not even close.....a bit more powerful but nothing amazing.ActionRemix

We still don't know how powerful the WiiU's GPU is.

We know it's based off of the chip used for these tech demos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YjXCae4Gu0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2fS9covXBs

Yeah....sure.............. :?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tn-sM7pCFk

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#87 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]We know it's based off of the chip used for these tech demos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YjXCae4Gu0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2fS9covXBsAtariKidX

Yeah....sure.............. :?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tn-sM7pCFk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHUwDShrD4 You can't seriously tell me this looks like a PS3 game.
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So Nintendo is telling me they plan on supporting 2 systems at once right? Because that's worked for anyone... Hell PS2 pretty much canabalized any footing the PS3 could have garnered without it's presense, I can only imagine how bad the Wii will canabalize Wii U sales.
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]wait a second .... so this guy thinks that a man who has $50,000 - $60,000 disposable income (meaning after bills, food, car , insurance, mortgage , debt, etc.... so the peroson would need to make at least $75-100k a year , I don't even make a 3rd of that..) would be who would be buying a wii? and what the person with more money...meaning someone who has 75-100k disposable income and makes 200k-1mil a year will be buying wii-u? What the hell? In this economy that isn't going to happen. Many people don't have jobs or aren't getting raises because the market sucks. I don't think so Nintendo..and if you think only rich people making 75-100k a year are the ones buying a wii .you are wrong reggie. Most wii buyers were soccor moms who don't even work or who are poor...because the console was cheap. This wii-u is not gonna hit too good I will say that. Is it just me or does Reggie kinda sound like Ken Kutarai in this interview....two jobs for wii-u.... Not everyone makes your salary reggie. Hell most working adults make under 40k with maybe 15k disposable... just saying.

He meant a FAMILY with $50k disposable income. That's around minimum wage.

What...?? Minimum wage? way over...me and my wife put together bring home maybe $55-60k a year... i work full time and she works part time and we have two kids 6 and 8... I myself make way more than double minimum wage. After mortgage, car, food, etc... our disposable income is very very small..maybe around 15k a year .... Life is expensive when you have kids and don't get raises because you make websites for real estate agents who don't want to spend money because the market flat out sucks. Anyway...to have that much spending money you need to make a lot and in America...the economy isn't there...
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]We know it's based off of the chip used for these tech demos:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YjXCae4Gu0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2fS9covXBsActionRemix

Yeah....sure.............. :?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tn-sM7pCFk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHUwDShrD4 You can't seriously tell me this looks like a PS3 game.

I don't see anything amazing on that.U3 just blows away this.........................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWfjeSrDg9U

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So Nintendo is telling me they plan on supporting 2 systems at once right? Because that's worked for anyone... Hell PS2 pretty much canabalized any footing the PS3 could have garnered without it's presense, I can only imagine how bad the Wii will canabalize Wii U sales.Jynxzor
Um, Sony still supported the PS1 for a while during PS2 era and the PS2 sales didn't get "canabalized". The reason PS3 did so bad was launching it at (the number of nightmares) $599. I fail to see how still supporting the Wii would canabalize Wii U's sales.

Then again, it is Nintendo. One of the most frowned upon companies since 1996.

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So Nintendo is telling me they plan on supporting 2 systems at once right? Because that's worked for anyone... Hell PS2 pretty much canabalized any footing the PS3 could have garnered without it's presense, I can only imagine how bad the Wii will canabalize Wii U sales.Jynxzor

It's an advantage to the business, the Wii is inexpensive to manufacture and will gain more sales, which means more money for Nintendo. By 2012, the Wii U will be more of a risk for Nintendo to bring to the market than the Wii is. If they start to lose revenue from one, they're still gaining revenue from the other while gaining revenue from the Wii, 3DS, DSi and DSi XL.

Sony continuing support of the PS2 was probably one of the smarter things they did handling their business back then.

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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

Yeah....sure.............. :?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tn-sM7pCFk

AtariKidX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHUwDShrD4 You can't seriously tell me this looks like a PS3 game.

I don't see anything amazing on that.U3 just blows away this.........................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWfjeSrDg9U

I predict that you will be very disappointed with the leap between PS3 and PS4.
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]So Nintendo is telling me they plan on supporting 2 systems at once right? Because that's worked for anyone... Hell PS2 pretty much canabalized any footing the PS3 could have garnered without it's presense, I can only imagine how bad the Wii will canabalize Wii U sales.nintendoboy16

Um, Sony still supported the PS1 for a while during PS2 era and the PS2 sales didn't get "canabalized". The reason PS3 did so bad was launching it at (the number of nightmares) $599. I fail to see how still supporting the Wii would canabalize Wii U's sales.

Then again, it is Nintendo. One of the most frowned upon companies since 1996.

I think the problem is.... Nintendo isn't even supporting the Wii now. How can anyone say that they can evensupport both consoles?

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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHUwDShrD4 You can't seriously tell me this looks like a PS3 game.ActionRemix

I don't see anything amazing on that.U3 just blows away this.........................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWfjeSrDg9U

I predict that you will be very disappointed with the leap between PS3 and PS4.

This Wii U Tech Demo it is not look better even than Crysis 2 on the XBOX........lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF67XFXq_ys

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]So Nintendo is telling me they plan on supporting 2 systems at once right? Because that's worked for anyone... Hell PS2 pretty much canabalized any footing the PS3 could have garnered without it's presense, I can only imagine how bad the Wii will canabalize Wii U sales.nitekids2004

Um, Sony still supported the PS1 for a while during PS2 era and the PS2 sales didn't get "canabalized". The reason PS3 did so bad was launching it at (the number of nightmares) $599. I fail to see how still supporting the Wii would canabalize Wii U's sales.

Then again, it is Nintendo. One of the most frowned upon companies since 1996.

I think the problem is.... Nintendo isn't even supporting the Wii now. How can anyone say that they can evensupport both consoles?

Not supporting the Wii eh? I guess that must be true considering they won't... ...OH WAIT! Wasn't this one of the games the fanbase was completely whining about due to previous plans of NOT localizing to the states?
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#97 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

I don't see anything amazing on that.U3 just blows away this.........................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWfjeSrDg9U

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I predict that you will be very disappointed with the leap between PS3 and PS4.

This Wii U Tech Demo it is not even look better than Crysis 2 on the XBOX........lol

Did you watch at 360p?
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#98 haziqonfire
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I think the problem is.... Nintendo isn't even supporting the Wii now. How can anyone say that they can evensupport both consoles?

nitekids2004

No one said anything about continual support on the software front. More so, it's about seeing how much milage Nintendo can get out of the Wii. Once the demand is ata level where it's not profitable to leave it on store shelves, Nintendo will hault production. I'm sure a lot of people don't heavily invest in gaming who are willing to spend $150 or so on a console with an already solid library of titles.

The little else Nintendo releases throughout the year will be enough to add onto the existing library, like Xenoblade.

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Sony continuing support of the PS2 was probably one of the smarter things they did handling their business back then.Haziqonfire
Oh of course, but the superior library of the PS2 really held the PS3 down for much longer than it should have. Nintendo has a clear advantage of not needing the Wii U to sell gangbusters when it launches due to the lack of competing "Next gen" systems. But I still have my concerns on Nintendo actively supporting the Wii during the Wii U's birth, Sony for the most part just let the PS2 die out on it's own accord and the system for the most part sold itself. Nintendo sounds like they are going to try and actively promote and sell the two systems that could possibly lead them to the same clusterf*ck that was the 3DS launch, with mass market confusion. Much like the 3DS they are also similariy named after their parent system with no real defining characteristic in the name to say "This is the new one" When I worked in electronic sales one of the most commonly asked questions I got around 3DS launch was people being downright confused about it being a new handheld from looks, packaging, and even advertisements the two systems look awefully similar. We haven't seen the true Wii-U system yet but it's not doing itself any favors by sticking so closely to it's parent system.
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]I predict that you will be very disappointed with the leap between PS3 and PS4.ActionRemix
This Wii U Tech Demo it is not even look better than Crysis 2 on the XBOX........lol

Did you watch at 360p?

Do you ever have play Crysis 2 on XBOX360.......?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF67XFXq_ys