Resistance 2 a failure compared to Resistance in terms of sales

I checked vgchartz a couple of minutes ago and I saw what I think was the sales of the games. Anyway Resistance 2 has barely managed to sell over a million while Resistance sold around 3.5 million. I for one did not buy Resistance 2 and I'm not going to compared to other quality titles that are currently available out on the market Resistance 2 doesn't crack the top 5 and propbably doesn't make the top 10 for me either. I would rather own uncharted than resistance 2.

I don't see sales picking up for Resistance 2 and even though I think Insomniac is a decent dev I by no means think they have one of the top 5 games out maybe not even in the top 10.

Also while thinking about this game do I think it could be better yeah, do I think the 60 man online really makes that big of a difference......no. I say wait for Killzone 2. I would be surprised if Resistance 2 managed to sale 1.5 million.

Bu Bu Bu But its a great game. IIJuggaNottII

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]Bu Bu Bu But its a great game. odin2019

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]Bu Bu Bu But its a great game. IIJuggaNottII

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

Well actually I was just trying to agree with you its not that great. However, I did say that I wouldn't buy it and I won't so it must not be that great.

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]Bu Bu Bu But its a great game. IIJuggaNottII

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]Bu Bu Bu But its a great game. IIJuggaNottII

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

Blazerdt47

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

If Gears of War 2 sold because its great, or because it didnt have games...or because some kid liked the cover art and got his mother to buy it doesnt matter. Damage control....lets take point away from Gears 2 because of _______________. Okay, Im with it.

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"][QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

IIJuggaNottII

If Gears of War 2 sold because its great, or because it didnt have games...or because some kid liked the cover art and got his mother to buy it doesnt matter. Damage control....lets take point away from Gears 2 because of _______________. Okay, Im with it.

Gears 2 = 9.0
Resistance 2 = 9.0

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

Mongo-Boss

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

In Fanboys/Hardcore gamers minds they will make up any type of excuse to why their games are GREAT and other games are so poor. IF LBP sold 3 million they would hoot and hoot. Wii Sports sells like hot cakes, but its garbage. Think about this....who does Nintendo target? Hardcore Gamers? NO....wii fans are not represented on this site...so it may seem as if EVERYONE thinks the game is garbage. I dont like it, Im a hardcore gamer. What about the TARGET...who obviously LOVE the game...and the BOUGHT IT. Sony Fanboys will bark about the greatness of their games but will not purchase them. LOL. okay. That means that the game did a poor job appealing to its TARGET. Nintendo achieves that, the 360 gets it done. PS3 does not. Ask the guys who purchased Wii sports if they like it......dont come in a room full of Hardcore gamers and SONY/MICROSOFT fanboys and bark about how weak Nintendo games are...they will agree. Ask the Target,not guys who already dont like it..so you point failed. PERIOD>

The desperation to show R2 in a bad light is amusing

both good games, get over it.

[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"][QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

IIJuggaNottII

In Fanboys/Hardcore gamers minds they will make up any type of excuse to why their games are GREAT and other games are so poor. IF LBP sold 3 million they would hoot and hoot. Wii Sports sells like hot cakes, but its garbage. Think about this....who does Nintendo target? Hardcore Gamers? NO....wii fans are not represented on this site...so it may seem as if EVERYONE thinks the game is garbage. I dont like it, Im a hardcore gamer. What about the TARGET...who obviously LOVE the game...and the BOUGHT IT. Sony Fanboys will bark about the greatness of their games but will not purchase them. LOL. okay. That means that the game did a poor job appealing to its TARGET. Nintendo achieves that, the 360 gets it done. PS3 does not. Ask the guys who purchased Wii sports if they like it......dont come in a room full of Hardcore gamers and SONY/MICROSOFT fanboys and bark about how weak Nintendo games are...they will agree. Ask the Target,not guys who already dont like it..so you point failed. PERIOD>

Resistance is directed at a casual market.

Second by your logic Okami was a crappy game while Wii Sports was great. Sales do not reflect quality. More people enjoy Scary Movie 3, does it make it a higher quality movie than The Godfather? More people enjoying it doesn't give it higher quality just a higher appeal.

No idea what any of this has to do with Sony, MS or Nintendo but ok.

EDIT: I confused 2 posts and ended up putting Gears in this :P

*Removes*

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

Blazerdt47

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

what it did was because the 360 had no games at the time and all of a sudden Gears comes along with CASUAL written all over it. Same goes for Halo.

Hates Halo-check

Hates GEOW-check

It's just missing an RROD comment.

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"][QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"] Just like Wii SportsMongo-Boss

In Fanboys/Hardcore gamers minds they will make up any type of excuse to why their games are GREAT and other games are so poor. IF LBP sold 3 million they would hoot and hoot. Wii Sports sells like hot cakes, but its garbage. Think about this....who does Nintendo target? Hardcore Gamers? NO....wii fans are not represented on this site...so it may seem as if EVERYONE thinks the game is garbage. I dont like it, Im a hardcore gamer. What about the TARGET...who obviously LOVE the game...and the BOUGHT IT. Sony Fanboys will bark about the greatness of their games but will not purchase them. LOL. okay. That means that the game did a poor job appealing to its TARGET. Nintendo achieves that, the 360 gets it done. PS3 does not. Ask the guys who purchased Wii sports if they like it......dont come in a room full of Hardcore gamers and SONY/MICROSOFT fanboys and bark about how weak Nintendo games are...they will agree. Ask the Target,not guys who already dont like it..so you point failed. PERIOD>

First off both Gears and Resistance are directed at a casual market.

Second by your logic Okami was a crappy game while Wii Sports was great. Sales do not reflect quality. More people enjoy Scary Movie 3, does it make it a higher quality movie than The Godfather? More people enjoying it doesn't give it higher quality just a higher appeal.

No idea what any of this has to do with Sony, MS or Nintendo but ok.

Where in my post did I sale Sales=Great? My point is....if the game sales then they got the job done as far as appealing to its TARGET. If Gears 2, and Resistance 2 were for casuals doesnt matter with what I was saying. If Scary Movie 3 has a wide turnout...well they got it done as far as appealing to their target. I went on about Nintendo...MS...because guys want to write of games as being weak....but people are buying them...obviously because they are interested, or like it. While they do have people who will go to a store and pick up anything....I dont think you can do that to reach Millions of sales. So....someone liked the game.

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]Bu Bu Bu But its a great game. IIJuggaNottII

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

the sales match how good the game was

IIJuggaNottII

The original RS sold that much because at the time wasn't any good ps3 game,now there's couple of desent titles to pick up over resistance 2.McdonaIdsGuy

DING DING DING DING

We have a winner.

Seriously, go look at the other PS3 games back in the day when Resitance came out. There are loads of great multi plat and PS3 exclusives titles out now for people to choose from.

Comparing one game sales for over two years to another games sales for two months is really logical and makes all the sense in the world.lusitanogamer

I know right? Who can argue with that logic!

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

II_Seraphim_II

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

I wrote a review....you can read that. That sums it up.

I wrote a review....you can read that. That sums it up.

IIJuggaNottII

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]Bu Bu Bu But its a great game. odin2019

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

I've checked VGChartz and Resistance 2 has sold more in it's first month than the first. If VGChartz are correct, anyway.Floppy_Jim

[QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]Bu Bu Bu But its a great game. Dreams-Visions

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

Some people... :lol:

Resistance 1 was a launch title right?

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

II_Seraphim_II

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

sci-fi alien-sty1e invasion has been done how many times? face it: it's a standard-fare shooter with what seems to be a mediocre story.

hum-ho weapons.

mediocre graphics in all but a few sequences.

it borrowed heavily from Call of Duty 4. but didn't do it nearly as well.

sci-fi alien-sty1e invasion has been done how many times? face it: it's a standard-fare shooter with what seems to be a mediocre story.

hum-ho weapons.

mediocre graphics in all but a few sequences.

Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I've checked VGChartz and Resistance 2 has sold more in it's first month than the first. If VGChartz are correct, anyway.Dreams-Visions

*Shrugs* I'm just going by VGChartz here, like the TC did. Here's the sales figures for the first Resistance-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1893®ion=All

And Resistance 2-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=15255®ion=All

Resistance 2 sold around 850,000 in it's first 4 weeks compared to around 550,000 for the first game. So it's certainly not a failure compared to the first game if it sold 300,000 more in the same timeframe. And what's Gears of War 2 got to do with anything? If anything we should be comparing it to COD:WAW, it came out on the same system and it's the same genre.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

I'm not saying that it isn't a great a game but it simply is not good enough thus sales reflect. Its just too bad they really didn't make more use of the money they made from Resistance becuase now they won't make near as much.

munu9

1.) I wasn't a big fan of Resistance 1. I thought the story was mediocre and the gameplay was uninspired. I did enjoy the MP on ocassion...though the lack of people with mics was a big turn-off at the time.

2.) The *consensus* seems to be that the SP story is not as good as the R1 story. that doesn't bode well for me, as I'd only put the R1 story at a 7/10.

3.) Many people feel the gameplay experience in the R1 MP is better than R2. More polished and refined. This concerns me greatly, as I felt like there were several better MP shooters out there when R1 came out. Though its netcode was fantastic (almost always lag-free). Still it was not all that enjoyable to me.

4.) I did not enjoy the R2 Beta. I felt like the huge battles were just kill-festivals. hang back with a sniper rifle and just kill, kill, kill. little challenge from what I could find. and the god-awful auto-aim offended me. it just...locks on! lol, wth? but again, I appreciate the fantastic netcode that allows for it all to happen with very little lag. but in my time in the beta, I did not find it inspirational.

5.) The only place of consensus greatness is when playing co-op.

6.) With a lightly played CoD4, Bioshock, Halo 3 and now Left4Dead in my library, I'm pretty sure that a mediocre R2 won't get any play from me. Why would I put money into something I might not play? I can put that money towards Persona 4 or Valkyria Chronicles.

Idunno man. The masses are pretty disappointed with R2. I can't say I'm interested in joining them in their disappointment $60 later.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I've checked VGChartz and Resistance 2 has sold more in it's first month than the first. If VGChartz are correct, anyway.Floppy_Jim

*Shrugs* I'm just going by VGChartz here, like the TC did. Here's the sales figures for the first Resistance-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1893®ion=All

And Resistance 2-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=15255®ion=All

Resistance 2 sold around 850,000 in it's first 4 weeks compared to around 550,000 for the first game. So it's certainly not a failure compared to the first game if it sold 300,000 more in the same timeframe. And what's Gears of War 2 got to do with anything? If anything we should be comparing it to COD:WAW, it came out on the same system and it's the same genre.

Thank you for posting this! I was looking for some numbers myself of the game sells within a set time frame.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I've checked VGChartz and Resistance 2 has sold more in it's first month than the first. If VGChartz are correct, anyway.Floppy_Jim

*Shrugs* I'm just going by VGChartz here, like the TC did. Here's the sales figures for the first Resistance-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1893®ion=All

And Resistance 2-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=15255®ion=All

Resistance 2 sold around 850,000 in it's first 4 weeks compared to around 550,000 for the first game. So it's certainly not a failure compared to the first game if it sold 300,000 more in the same timeframe. And what's Gears of War 2 got to do with anything? If anything we should be comparing it to COD:WAW, it came out on the same system and it's the same genre.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] it borrowed heavily from Call of Duty 4. but didn't do it nearly as well.

sci-fi alien-sty1e invasion has been done how many times? face it: it's a standard-fare shooter with what seems to be a mediocre story.

hum-ho weapons.

mediocre graphics in all but a few sequences.

munu9

Hm, maybe next time you'll take into account that they released on different dates

http://www.vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Resistance%3A+Fall+of+Man+-+PS3®2=All&game2=Resistance+2+-+PS3®3=All&game3=&weeks=100

[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

I wrote a review....you can read that. That sums it up.

munu9

If it makes you feel better to "think" Im being fanboyish....thats cool. Its my opinion that the game didnt jump out at me, It was an okay game. When I say that it has good game play, or great weapons....that means that the game is now GREAT because I thought the Weapons were good? If I think that the controls are smooth that means that the game is now...GREAT because of the controls? If you enjoy the game...Im fine with that.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] that's not saying anything at all. in the first month of R1 availability, the PS3 had just come out and was impossible to find thanks to lack of blu-ray diodes. so of course R1 sales would be low. that's a very low bar to jump over. what we do know is that R2 got molested by Gears 2 in sales last month. embarrassed.Dreams-Visions

*Shrugs* I'm just going by VGChartz here, like the TC did. Here's the sales figures for the first Resistance-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1893®ion=All

And Resistance 2-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=15255®ion=All

Resistance 2 sold around 850,000 in it's first 4 weeks compared to around 550,000 for the first game. So it's certainly not a failure compared to the first game if it sold 300,000 more in the same timeframe. And what's Gears of War 2 got to do with anything? If anything we should be comparing it to COD:WAW, it came out on the same system and it's the same genre.

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"][QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]

Well ummmm, I dont think its a great game but is GENERIC at best. It sold what it should, the sales match how good the game was. Lack Luster, boring, forgetable.....but it has smoooooth controls and GREAT weapons.

heretrix

what it did was because the 360 had no games at the time and all of a sudden Gears comes along with CASUAL written all over it. Same goes for Halo.

Hates Halo-check

Hates GEOW-check

It's just missing an RROD comment.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

*Shrugs* I'm just going by VGChartz here, like the TC did. Here's the sales figures for the first Resistance-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1893®ion=All

And Resistance 2-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=15255®ion=All

Resistance 2 sold around 850,000 in it's first 4 weeks compared to around 550,000 for the first game. So it's certainly not a failure compared to the first game if it sold 300,000 more in the same timeframe. And what's Gears of War 2 got to do with anything? If anything we should be comparing it to COD:WAW, it came out on the same system and it's the same genre.

Floppy_Jim

1.) they're both big-budget exclusives.

2.) they're both shooters

3.) they were both scored similarly (here, anyway)

4.) there was major hype behind both of them

5.) WaW is multiplat. if you want to discuss WaW, compare 360 sales to PS3 sales of that same game.

1.) bigger install base.

2.) availability of consoles.

3.) availability of the game.

4.) amount of competition. you can't ignore the mitigating factors.

it's an obtuse and ineffective way to look at statistics. but whatever. carry on. if you really want to talk about success or failure, one should be looking to figure out what percentage of the PS3 userbase bought R2 relative to R1.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] that's not saying anything at all. in the first month of R1 availability, the PS3 had just come out and was impossible to find thanks to lack of blu-ray diodes. so of course R1 sales would be low. that's a very low bar to jump over. what we do know is that R2 got molested by Gears 2 in sales last month. embarrassed.Lewisite

*Shrugs* I'm just going by VGChartz here, like the TC did. Here's the sales figures for the first Resistance-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1893®ion=All

And Resistance 2-

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=15255®ion=All

Resistance 2 sold around 850,000 in it's first 4 weeks compared to around 550,000 for the first game. So it's certainly not a failure compared to the first game if it sold 300,000 more in the same timeframe. And what's Gears of War 2 got to do with anything? If anything we should be comparing it to COD:WAW, it came out on the same system and it's the same genre.

Thank you for posting this! I was looking for some numbers myself of the game sells within a set time frame.

[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] it borrowed heavily from Call of Duty 4. but didn't do it nearly as well.

sci-fi alien-sty1e invasion has been done how many times? face it: it's a standard-fare shooter with what seems to be a mediocre story.

hum-ho weapons.

mediocre graphics in all but a few sequences.

Dreams-Visions