Rumor: ESRAM always be bottleneck, no chance for PS4 parity

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#1 -Damien-
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bombs dropping by the hour now

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#2  Edited By Heil68
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That would suck if true considering it's a selling point of xbone, but I imagine updates could fix any potential problems.

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#3  Edited By Snugenz
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There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making has "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

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#4 psymon100
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Well duh, that's why the Xbox One is more expensive.

Huh. Wait a second...

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Son of a bitch you're fast. I'll add to it atleast.

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PSN better than Live confirmed

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#7  Edited By -Damien-
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@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making has "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

wat? censorship? why don't you go live in North Korea

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#8 Locutus_Picard
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@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making had "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

No fun allowed? I'd rather have neogamespotgaf taken care of...we shouldn't be mirroring gaf.

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#9 GTSaiyanjin2
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maybe this is why EDRAM, and ESRAM is not used in retail GPU's... MS should of just gone with GDDR5.

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#10 bobbetybob
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@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making has "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

Yeah I'm sick of all these rumours, until someone actually has proper sources and concrete facts can't the mods just stick everything into a Rumour Mill thread or something.

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#11 KellyKelly
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Just cancelled my X1 pre-order

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#12  Edited By Snugenz
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@Locutus_Picard said:

@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making had "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

No fun allowed? I'd rather have neogamespotgaf taken care of...we shouldn't be mirroring gaf.

Whats fun about the ever growing ball of shit of unsubstantiated rumours being brought up constantly in nearly everythread?, do you not remember SW when we argued facts?.

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Oh snap!

Shit, I crashed.

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#14 Locutus_Picard
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@kellykelly said:

Just cancelled my X1 pre-order

Yeah, space sims aren't what they used to be.

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So wait, ddr3 won't somehow be as fast as ddr5 in the future? Surely you jest, lol. But seriously, game development is only as good as the talent that dev has. The hardware is what it is, but if the dev sucks and the game sucks who gives a crap if its 1080p and 60 frames a second.

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#16  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@Locutus_Picard said:

@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making had "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

No fun allowed? I'd rather have neogamespotgaf taken care of...we shouldn't be mirroring gaf.

Grow a pair.

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#17  Edited By -Damien-
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@bobbetybob said:
@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making has "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

Yeah I'm sick of all these rumours, until someone actually has proper sources and concrete facts can't the mods just stick everything into a Rumour Mill thread or something.

It's MS's job to debunk these rumors, but what have they done? where are they? they went into hiding....so there's truths to these stories

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#18 Chutebox
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I don't believe any of this shit coming out.

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#19  Edited By GotNugz
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It's like I've been saying all along the esram was some last minute bandage that MS thought would help the system after Sony dropped 8gb gddr5 on them. The truth is it just doesn't work and there is far too little of it to make much difference. I could have designed a better system in one hour that would be about on budget if anything a slight loss.

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#20 danabo
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This is 100% true and accurate. Thread title needs changing.

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#21  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@Chutebox said:

I don't believe any of this shit coming out.

Normally I wouldn't but those that are leaking this shit are prominent posters at Neogaf, Have been known to have access to such information before and are not known to lie.

MS really should put some of this shit to bed if it's not true however, it's killing what little image they had left after the TV/Sports/NSA Camera always online no used games reveal.

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#22  Edited By bobbetybob
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@-Damien- said:

@bobbetybob said:
@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making has "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

Yeah I'm sick of all these rumours, until someone actually has proper sources and concrete facts can't the mods just stick everything into a Rumour Mill thread or something.

It's MS's job to debunk these rumors, but what have they done? where are they? they went into hiding....so there's truths to these stories

That doesn't stop them from being rumours and I'm sick of picking through piles of crap threads that all say the same thing to find stuff I actually care about and want to discuss. I know the fanboys just want to throw shit at each other like the mentally challenged baboons they are but that doesn't mean we can't isolate that to a single thread.

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#24 Locutus_Picard
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Locutus_Picard said:

@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making had "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

No fun allowed? I'd rather have neogamespotgaf taken care of...we shouldn't be mirroring gaf.

Grow a pair.

Look, I know this is all hot stuff but I'd rather count foliage and not mirror gaf. we need to continue DVD drama and foliage expertise at some point.

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#25  Edited By shawn30
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@-Damien- said:

@bobbetybob said:
@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making has "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

Yeah I'm sick of all these rumours, until someone actually has proper sources and concrete facts can't the mods just stick everything into a Rumour Mill thread or something.

It's MS's job to debunk these rumors, but what have they done? where are they? they went into hiding....so there's truths to these stories

Lol, dude there comes a point where so much is said, so much rumored, that if I were MS I wouldn't say a damn thing until I could prove it was it was no longer true. And saying something is running well when you know it isn't and you're working on it won't calm the online Anti-MS horde. I don't have a problem with the silence until Nov 22. That's when it needs to be fixed and resolved at least to a fully functional degree. If you want MS to admit its OS has issues and they are working on it, that not shocking. If you want them to say the One will not be able to produce visuals as good as the PS4, well you'd have to be ignoring the specs yourself. No matter what MS says right now it won't do much good. There are times silence works best. When the issues are fixed, then talk and show it off and everyone shuts up. But to respond to ever damn twitter and online forum comment when the issues aren't yet fixed would be stupid and a waste of time. The graphics issue is handled by showing off Xbox One games, not going at people on twitter. Smart isn't always immediate. Patience is sometimes the way to go.

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#26 urbansys
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The cool thing to do on twitter, post crap to grab attention. This is funny as hell.

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#28  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@Locutus_Picard said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Locutus_Picard said:

@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making had "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

No fun allowed? I'd rather have neogamespotgaf taken care of...we shouldn't be mirroring gaf.

Grow a pair.

Look, I know this is all hot stuff but I'd rather count foliage and not mirror gaf. we need to continue DVD drama and foliage expertise at some point.

We need Saolin present for the Foliage charts to begin.

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pack it up lems.

http://abload.de/img/major-nelson-xbox-oneh7x98.gif

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#31  Edited By NineTailedGoku
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@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making has "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

I'm guessing youre not a big fan of the news....

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@NineTailedGoku said:

@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making has "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

I'm guessing youre not a big fan of the news....

What "news"?

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#33  Edited By avigeil
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@kellykelly:

how many xbox one did you pre order? because every time their is a topic about xbox one you magically cancel your pre order !!!!

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#34  Edited By Snugenz
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@NineTailedGoku said:

@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making has "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

I'm guessing youre not a big fan of the news....

I'm a fan of SW when it was more than just rumours and people like you.

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#35  Edited By Harisemo
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Why do these SonyGAF "insiders" only get bad insider info about Xbox One? Rarely have I heard these "insiders" get "insider" knowledge about PS4 and what little they do say about PS4 is quickly buried on SonyGAF.

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@avigeil said:

@kellykelly:

how many xbox one did you pre order? because every time their is a topic about xbox one you magically cancel your pre order !!!!

0. Or maybe he keeps cancelling and re-pre ordering the same one? I never understood dave.

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#37  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@Harisemo said:

Why do these SonyGAF "insiders" only get bad insider info about Xbox One? Rarely have I heard these "insiders" get "insider" knowledge about PS4 and what little they do say about PS4 is quickly buried on SonyGAF.

Possibly there is much more bad news about the xbone than there is about the ps4 at the moment.

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@avigeil said:

@kellykelly:

how many xbox one did you pre order? because every time their is a topic about xbox one you magically cancel your pre order !!!!

LOL...now that's funny.

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#39  Edited By RR360DD
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Very believable

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#40  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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MS PR isn't even trying to mask this shit anymore.

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#41  Edited By MonsieurX
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@Locutus_Picard said:

@kellykelly said:

Just cancelled my X1 pre-order

Yeah, space sims aren't what they used to be.

I lol'd.

Well done,well done.

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another major beat down to the Xbox One.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Locutus_Picard said:

@Snugenz said:

There should be a rule here at SW that if the thread you were planning on making had "Rumour" anywhere in the title, you should'nt.

No fun allowed? I'd rather have neogamespotgaf taken care of...we shouldn't be mirroring gaf.

Grow a pair.

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#44  Edited By Netherscourge
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And to think... Microsoft is charging $100 more for this mess.

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#45  Edited By tormentos
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Like there would be parity even if ESRAM worked as intended,ESRAM is not a performance enhancer,is basically a cheap way to make up for DDR3 slow ass bandwidth.

I wonder where is Ronvalencia now,Stormy Joe,Blackace,superclocked,Tessellation and the rest of the lemming squad now,like i say all alone ESRAM was just a cheap patch,and it would not make for the difference,hell is adding complexity long live Mark Cerny..

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#46  Edited By tormentos
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@kellykelly said:

PSN better than Live confirmed

Whaaaaaaaaatt..? You take that back how there you..

The 300K dedicated servers for all games the mighty morphing power cloud is unbeatable.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..

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#47  Edited By EG101
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What is funny is that the guy Posting these rumors is an ADMITTED Sony Fanboy also known as Thuway on Neo Gaf.

Real XB1 units are already playable and the UI and snap has been shown.

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#48  Edited By Gue1
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@tormentos said:

Like there would be parity even if ESRAM worked as intended,ESRAM is not a performance enhancer,is basically a cheap way to make up for DDR3 slow ass bandwidth.

I wonder where is Ronvalencia now,Stormy Joe,Blackace,superclocked,Tessellation and the rest of the lemming squad now,like i say all alone ESRAM was just a cheap patch,and it would not make for the difference,hell is adding complexity long live Mark Cerny..

oh dear. I'm expecting the XB1 to at least be on par after all the damage control from Ron and his secret sauce. I never imagined he was a closet lem to be honest. XD

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#49  Edited By danjammer69
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@kellykelly said:

PSN better than Live confirmed

Yeah, THIS is not what people were expecting.

Everyone pretty much just had Live > PSN as a given. At this point if Live is that far behind, will their (MS) experience be enough to reach parity?

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#50  Edited By lhughey
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@avigeil said:

@kellykelly:

how many xbox one did you pre order? because every time their is a topic about xbox one you magically cancel your pre order !!!!

LOL. I got on to him last week about the same thing!