Rumor: Original Crysis Bound for Xbox 360?

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

It´s not possible to emule the game on high settings but it´s probably possible on medium. Same happened to The Witcher 2 right?

AnnoyedDragon

It's not about graphical settings. It's about the core components of an entire game level being stored in memory simultaneously, rather than cutting it up into chunks; and streaming those chunks depending on the players location.

Consoles are built for streaming, they don't have the memory to store large amounts of information at once like PC can.

I only tried the game for a short period of time so i couldnt know! Still, i would love to see how would a console handle it. There are complex console games after all like RDR and Skyrim.

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[QUOTE="SajuukSW"] You were impressed by a game that routinely dropped to 15 fps?SajuukSW

...exaggerate much?

From Digital Foundry:

"Put simply, on certain stages, frame-rate varies rather drastically to the point where the game can feel almost unplayable.Thankfully these areas don't account for the majority of the gameplay by any stretch of the imagination"

But it's not all firefights. These frame rate dips are isolated to specific pockets/areas of the game so if a firefight is occurring in that area where the game seemed to be unoptimized then yes of course for that specific area you will see a dip in frame rate.

Again from the same article...

"Interestingly, the really poor-performing sections do seem isolated to specific areas in the campaign"

I only tried the game for a short period of time so i couldnt know! Still, i would love to see how would a console handle it. There are complex console games after all like RDR and Skyrim.

PAL360

Again, there is a difference between what Crysis 1 does, and what games like those do.

Crysis stored the entire map in memory, then streamed individual assets as they were needed. Open world games like TES titles cut the map into cells, loading those cells in and out of memory; depending on the players location on the map.

Obviously, you cannot load a map 1GB in size into consoles 256mb of ram. But if you cut it up into 20mb chunks, and loaded those chunks around the player as they moved around, you could make it fit in a fraction of the memory. But, you can only interact with chunks of the map that exist in memory, which would be a fraction of the entire game map as a whole.

If theyre releasing the game for the 360, its likely they making the game in Cryengine 3.

Its possible, but theyre going to have to cut some kind of corners to fit the entire of a Crysis level on a console.

Wouldn't be too bad... they would just have to tone down the graphics... a lot.SaltyMeatballs

It's not just the graphics. I've played Crysis 1 on low and the game is still using over 1GB of RAM on my system. Consoles simply can't handle that. Maybe Crytek has found a work around for that, I don't know. Just sayin', though.

Wouldn't be too bad... they would just have to tone down the graphics... a lot.SaltyMeatballs

Crysis 2 looked really good on my PS3. I don't see why the couldn't make a good looking Crysis 1 on the 360. If so, that'd be cool. Allow more people to enjoy the game.

another PC exclusive lost

Harisemo

another drop in the bucket.

It's going to be like Far Cry Instincts, does anyone remember that game? It's a butchered Far Cry made for consoles and it may be a different game.

Crysis 2 looked really good on my PS3. I don't see why the couldn't make a good looking Crysis 1 on the 360. If so, that'd be cool. Allow more people to enjoy the game.

brickdoctor

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Wouldn't be too bad... they would just have to tone down the graphics... a lot.TreyoftheDead

It's not just the graphics. I've played Crysis 1 on low and the game is still using over 1GB of RAM on my system. Consoles simply can't handle that. Maybe Crytek has found a work around for that, I don't know. Just sayin', though.

Crysis 2 looked really good on my PS3. I don't see why the couldn't make a good looking Crysis 1 on the 360. If so, that'd be cool. Allow more people to enjoy the game.

brickdoctor

Meh. I've played a portion of Crysis before & I'd prefer a new game personally.

Yeah they would have to change the rendering technique, but it's not exactly GTA IV. It's mostly repetitive environments and enemies look the same, empty areas every now and then you see like 6 dudes, AI is nothing special.SaltyMeatballs

How many times does it have to be said? It has nothing to do with graphics.

You cannot just scale the visuals down, and fit 600mb worth of level assets into 256mb of ram.

I think it would be pretty sweet. There isn't anything in Crysis 1 gameplay wise that can't be done with a controller. Hell the default game nativly supports and Xbox 360 controller.

The graphics wouldn't be nearly as good, but it would be intresting to see if they could do a port of Crysis 1 with the CryEngine 3 and get it to run on the consoles.

Wasdie

Didnt it lack lean and prone with a 360 controller?

looks like the original crysis can work on consoles afterall.Espereful

looks like the original crysis can work on consoles afterall.Espereful

who doubted it? any game can run on any system...it just might look different.

looks like the original crysis can work on consoles afterall.Espereful

I don't think anybody doubted it. The game will have to be changed fundamentally in order to fit into the consoles restricted memory. It's likely it'll go to something like cell-streaming, similar to what games like Oblivion did. Who knows, though.

[QUOTE="Espereful"]looks like the original crysis can work on consoles afterall.CaseyWegner

who doubted it? any game can run on any system...it just might look different.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Espereful"]looks like the original crysis can work on consoles afterall.red12355

who doubted it? any game can run on any system...it just might look different.

such as and what did they say?

If Crysis 2 ran like crap on 360..............

haha, cant wait for the upcoming slideshow of this

A lot of hermits.red12355

Most of the arguments I have ever seen on SW were with regards to Crysis' current form running on consoles. No doubt it'll run if altered to fit into the consoles memory.

[QUOTE="Espereful"]looks like the original crysis can work on consoles afterall.lawlessx

looks like the original crysis can work on consoles afterall.Espereful

The argument was whether consoles could run Crysis maxed out...or with high settings...or even medium.

That answer should obvious.

That answer should obvious.BigBoss154

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]That answer should obvious.Espereful

Crysis 2 not only looks worse than Crysis 1, but the console versions are a mix of low and medium at low resolutions and run @ sub 30fps.

[QUOTE="red12355"]A lot of hermits.lundy86_4

Most of the arguments I have ever seen on SW were with regards to Crysis' current form running on consoles. No doubt it'll run if altered to fit into the consoles memory.

It could run on the Wii if you changed it enough. But that doesn't mean people can go around saying the Wii can run Crysis, when it would require radically altering the game.

I've been explaining this over and over again in SW since 2007, and the results are always the same. Ignore, deny, downplay.

It's a ridiculous assumption in SW that the only difference between PC and console is graphics. That the typical gaming PC today has 4GB of ram, and that consoles typically dedicate 256mb for ram related tasks, never gets considered.

based off crysis 2, the answer is a obvious yes it can run it at medium to high settinsEspereful

Crysis 2 DOES NOT use the same memory management model as Crysis 1, it was streaming based, and it showed in the level design.

[QUOTE="red12355"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

who doubted it? any game can run on any system...it just might look different.

CaseyWegner

such as and what did they say?

Annoyed Dragon just stated it was impossible.

I will hold back all judgement until I hear more confirmation.

It could run on the Wii if you changed it enough. But that doesn't mean people can go around saying the Wii can run Crysis, when it would require radically altering the game.

I've been explaining this over and over again in SW since 2007, and the results are always the same. Ignore, deny, downplay.

It's a ridiculous assumption in SW that the only difference between PC and console is graphics. That the typical gaming PC today has 4GB of ram, and that consoles typically dedicate 256mb for ram related tasks, never gets considered.

AnnoyedDragon

Exactly. The argument was never "the consoles can't run Crysis", it was always "it won't run Crysis similarly to the PC version", AFAIK.

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[QUOTE="red12355"] A lot of hermits.15strong

such as and what did they say?

Annoyed Dragon just stated it was impossible.

I will hold back all judgement until I hear more confirmation.

Crysis 2 not only looks worse than Crysis 1, but the console versions are a mix of low and medium at low resolutions and run @ sub 30fps.BigBoss154

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]Crysis 2 not only looks worse than Crysis 1, but the console versions are a mix of low and medium at low resolutions and run @ sub 30fps.Espereful

BigBoss didn't dispute that :?

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

such as and what did they say?

lawlessx

Annoyed Dragon just stated it was impossible.

I will hold back all judgement until I hear more confirmation.

I'm not an expert or anything but let's use The Witcher 2 as an example. It is going to 360 and is goingto be generally the asme game as the PC version. So why is that possible and not crysis? Witcher 2 is suppossed to be a beast with huge enviroments and stunning visuals.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]Crysis 2 not only looks worse than Crysis 1, but the console versions are a mix of low and medium at low resolutions and run @ sub 30fps.Espereful

Annoyed Dragon just stated it was impossible.

I will hold back all judgement until I hear more confirmation.

15strong

There is nothing to confirm.

You cannot fit 1GB worth of information into 256mb of ram, it's common sense.

You would have to change the game to use less memory, which involves streaming, which cannot replicate Crysis 1's interactive scale.

I'm not an expert or anything but let's use The Witcher 2 as an example. It is going to 360 and is goingto be generally the asme game as the PC version. So why is that possible and not crysis? Witcher 2 is suppossed to be a beast with huge enviroments and stunning visuals.

15strong

1) Witcher 2 was designed with future console porting in mind, Crysis 1 wasn't.

2) GRAPHICS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="15strong"]

Annoyed Dragon just stated it was impossible.

I will hold back all judgement until I hear more confirmation.

15strong

I'm not an expert or anything but let's use The Witcher 2 as an example. It is going to 360 and is goingto be generally the asme game as the PC version. So why is that possible and not crysis? Witcher 2 is suppossed to be a beast with huge enviroments and stunning visuals.

The Witcher 2 (as far as I am), doesn't have environments as large as Crysis. Also, define "generally the asme game as the PC version."

If they port Crysis 1, it will not be Crysis 1 when they are done with it. No current console is powerful enough to handle Crysis. Even years later that facts stands. The consoles still have the same specs they had then. That's why they had to make an all new engine for Crysis 2 that wasn't anywhere near as powerful as the engine used to make Crysis 1.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="15strong"]

Annoyed Dragon just stated it was impossible.

I will hold back all judgement until I hear more confirmation.

15strong

I'm not an expert or anything but let's use The Witcher 2 as an example. It is going to 360 and is goingto be generally the asme game as the PC version. So why is that possible and not crysis? Witcher 2 is suppossed to be a beast with huge enviroments and stunning visuals.

If its true then PC loses another exclusive.TheGuardian03

If its true then PC loses another exclusive.TheGuardian03

If its true then PC loses another exclusive.TheGuardian03

When a console game gets ported to PC a few months later, it's apparently ancient now; and of no relevance. PC is getting consoles left overs, and the delayed port proves the platforms irrelevance.

When a 2007 PC game possibly gets ported to consoles years later, it's epic fail for PC and proves consoles rock?

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]Crysis 2 not only looks worse than Crysis 1, but the console versions are a mix of low and medium at low resolutions and run @ sub 30fps.Espereful

You realize you have just been ignoring everything AnnoyedDragon his posted. Crysis 2 is in linear environments while Crysis renders an ENTIRE island at once. You realize that the console RAM limitations prevent that. Cevat Yurli himself said that RAM limitations is why Crysis wasn't coming to consoles when the game was first shown.