RUMOR: PSP2 specs leaked

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#51 GTSaiyanjin2
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On par with iphone? i r disapoint, was expecting a bit better. did people honestly believe it would be as powerful as PS3? heck even half as powerful?

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It has a better CPU, and more ram if it does have 1gb. And the resolution is a little bit lower, so that should help it as well. I think PSP2 games can be comparable to PS3 games, but never look as good. Kinda how it was with the PSP, the games never really looked as good as a pS2, but they sure did get close.

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A quad-core cpu and 1gb of ram in a handheld:shock:. I think they are trying too hard to make it like a home console.

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[QUOTE="rolo107"]This is too good to be true. It has everything you could possibly want in a modern portable. If this thing is priced reasonably, $300, which would be possible, then this thing could be incredible for me. laus_basic

Only way for this to be priced at $300 is if Sony's willing to lose quite a bit of money per system and I don't see that happening. $350 minimum.

Hm... I don't think they'd lose any pricing it at $300. How much does any of this stuff really cost? It can't be that much. Unless they charge a premium for being early adopters. Maybe I'm mistaken though, but this is a portable. OLED screens are expensive, but this is a portable-sized screen.
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[QUOTE="BreakTheseLinks"] Because of the poor balance between performance and battery life?

[QUOTE="SoraX64"] Battery life.

You never know. The newest generation of multi-core processors are pretty amazing. I wouldn't discount the battery life just yet. I'm not sure where it will stand, but anything is possible at this point. More cores are going to be more common than less. Even the iPhone 5 is rumored to have multiple cores. If you know anything about Apple, you know they're very cautious with their power to battery life ratio.

lol.......HOW??

no way in hell is 4 cores a standard in a freakin handheld

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Do some reading on the future of processors. Multiple cores shouldn't really be that big of a "lol HOW??"
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]I'm going to say these are strictly debug specs if true. Quad core for a handheld is moronic.musicalmac
Why is it moronic?

This^ A dual core A9 uses 40% less power to perform the same tasks of a single core A9.

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="SoraX64"]Most PC games don't even utilize 4 cores, putting a quad core in a handheld is more than overkill. SoraX64
I understand most PC games don't utilize 4 cores. However, if 4 cores were the standard, they would. Based on these rumors, 4 cores may be standard in the new PSP. That means every game would be made with 4 cores in mind. From a technological standpoint, why is having 4 cores ridiculous?

Battery life.

That wasn't really your initial argument though. Good point though nonetheless. However, I'd wait and see what the actual battery life is before crying foul that the quad core is taking up too much.
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#57 GTSaiyanjin2
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I think Sony will charge $250 for the device to at least be competitive with the 3DS pricing. But I would pay $300 for it, those specks look real to me. A lot of the tech there is coming to smart phones this year, so they aretotally possible.

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Hm... if true, even I would have a hard time seeing this come in under $299. I just hope Sony doesn't push any farther than that or it'll be DOA.

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#59 Zune_HD
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So this is DD only? What's the game medium? With specs like that I expect it's game to be priced even higher than 3DS games ($40)

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#60 CDUB316
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So this is DD only? What's the game medium? With specs like that I expect it's game to be priced even higher than 3DS games ($40)

Zune_HD

wait....is this DD only?

if so then that's total fail and turns me off completely

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] Why would it possibly need it?

Why wouldn't they need it? You have to understand my question is just as valid as yours. Why, technologically speaking, is it moronic to have 4 cores in a handheld? Sounds like standards being embraced to me.

Sure technically it's awesome. It could lead the ps3 to bring xbox 360 quality like games. But realistically that sounds really stupid. Why would developers spend the same amount of time and money (or more) on a portable device that is likely to bring less sales than the console counterpart. From a financial perspective it doesn't make a lot of sense, they will lose lots of potential third party support making it share the same fate as the psp1. Next-gen systems are already encountering financial problems due to the amount of time and money it takes to release a game. This is leading many publishers to turn down new ideas due to the fact they don't have a proven track record yet. Furthermore, one bad idea could lead studios to be shut down. That being said, if the psp2 does have the rumored specifications you can expect uninspired games, little third party support, and a bland experience. IMO, if they want to produce the rumored level of visuals they should invest in cloud computing to connect to your psp to the ps3 via 3g or a similar network. Paralleling next-gen systems just doesn't seem profitable IMO.
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I dont think its a quadcore.... dualcores is all I can find when you google search the CPU.

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[QUOTE="Zune_HD"]

So this is DD only? What's the game medium? With specs like that I expect it's game to be priced even higher than 3DS games ($40)

CDUB316

wait....is this DD only?

if so then that's total fail and turns me off completely

Since they're packaging in 3G, I'd assume so but I can't find anything else about it.
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#64 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Zune_HD"]

So this is DD only? What's the game medium? With specs like that I expect it's game to be priced even higher than 3DS games ($40)

Zune_HD

wait....is this DD only?

if so then that's total fail and turns me off completely

Since they're packaging in 3G, I'd assume so but I can't find anything else about it.

yea i haven't heard any rumors at all on the games, backwards compatibility or anything like that

hmmmm....interesting

i really hope this isn't another PSP go

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This^ A dual core A9 uses 40% less power to perform the same tasks of a single core A9.

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] Why would it possibly need it?

Why wouldn't they need it? You have to understand my question is just as valid as yours. Why, technologically speaking, is it moronic to have 4 cores in a handheld? Sounds like standards being embraced to me.

Well technologically speaking it's just fine, but how much is it going to cost vs. a dual core? Is the performance increase really worth jacking up the production costs for, when competitive pricing is THE most important factor here?
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wait....is this DD only?

if so then that's total fail and turns me off completely

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Apple and 10 billion digitally downloaded apps disagree.
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More hype and speculation, I'll just chill til the 27th see what's what, then start to talk.
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

wait....is this DD only?

if so then that's total fail and turns me off completely

musicalmac

Apple and 10 billion digitally downloaded apps disagree.

PSPgo disagrees with your disagree

lol...do you have ANYTHING you don't like about the PSP2?

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The trackpad on the back sounds weird to me, not sure how I'd use it.

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No. Battery. Life. Whatsoever. mrmusicman247

You must've meant to post that in the 3DS thread. :P

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="CDUB316"]

wait....is this DD only?

if so then that's total fail and turns me off completely

CDUB316

Apple and 10 billion digitally downloaded apps disagree.

PSPgo disagrees with your disagree

lol...do you have ANYTHING you don't like about the PSP2?

PSP GO failing wasn't because of DD, it was Sony's poor execution.
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Well technologically speaking it's just fine, but how much is it going to cost vs. a dual core? Is the performance increase really worth jacking up the production costs for, when competitive pricing is THE most important factor here?Cherokee_Jack
All they have to do it get it to 299USD. Hit that price point, and you've got a bargain (IF, it's a big if). I'm more interested in a company doing everything they can to make the best possible products for the consumer. Assuming this is true, Sony did that better than Nintendo for the next round of handhelds. That's where I stand.
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3DS more powerful am confirmed. well someone had to do a silly :P. seriously though thats quite pokey. they havent given a speed for the CPUs though but knowing sony they will probably be on the faster side of things (wikipedia mentions 2GHz as their max speed). if true it also shows a clear shift in focus away from nintendo as a competitor in the handheld market as i speculated....sony are clearly going after apple. now if they sell it at cost (im assuming itll cost 350-400 per unit to make at launch) and advertise it well they could pull the rug from under apple as far as apple making inroads into gaming goes. they will also need to work on the interface...XMB simply wont cut it. as for the battery....there using an OLED screen which is very smart. there far more power efficent than normal LCDs and the screen is always one of the big drains in portable devices. i reckon ninty will take a similar route for the 3DSLite but thats for another thread. there is still going to be quite a bit of juice sucking though so a big battery will be a must. if they can get it to 6 hours of gaming then job done. but yeah interesting indeed.
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PSPgo disagrees with your disagree

lol...do you have ANYTHING you don't like about the PSP2?

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It's different when the main delivery system is digital download. If Sony can do a fraction of what Apple did (all digital download with a way to organize and back-up your apps on a computer), it's going to be wonderful. And no, I don't see a whole lot I dislike about this. It's does about everything Nintendo didn't do, but should have. Hope these rumors are confirmed soon.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="CDUB316"]

wait....is this DD only?

if so then that's total fail and turns me off completely

CDUB316

Apple and 10 billion digitally downloaded apps disagree.

PSPgo disagrees with your disagree

lol...do you have ANYTHING you don't like about the PSP2?

The screen is high class.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Apple and 10 billion digitally downloaded apps disagree.CDUB316
PSPgo disagrees with your disagree

DD failing once does not mean it will fail every time. The GO was just about the worst time and the worst way to carry out such an experiment. If this is DD, Sony is only doing what they should have done in the first place: launch an entirely new system with DD instead of awkwardly shoehorning it into an existing system late in its lifespan.
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#78 NVIDIATI
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Again for those wondering why quad core...

Single core A9 vs Dual core A9

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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

PSPgo disagrees with your disagree

lol...do you have ANYTHING you don't like about the PSP2?

musicalmac

It's different when the main delivery system is digital download. If Sony can do a fraction of what Apple did (all digital download with a way to organize and back-up your apps on a computer), it's going to be wonderful. And no, I don't see a whole lot I dislike about this. It's does about everything Nintendo didn't do, but should have. Hope these rumors are confirmed soon.

god...this REALLY sounds like last gens PSP vs. DS

but i really hope the PSP2 actually has ALOT of good games this time around and not just a mere handful

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god...this REALLY sounds like last gens PSP vs. DS

but i really hope the PSP2 actually has ALOT of good games this time around and not just a mere handful

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Dual analogs alone are going to make the games better.
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#81 YoYo278
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yes! this is more like it, as soon as people get over the gimmicky 3ds this will definately rule the market :D

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3DS more powerful am confirmed. well someone had to do a silly :P. seriously though thats quite pokey. they havent given a speed for the CPUs though but knowing sony they will probably be on the faster side of things (wikipedia mentions 2GHz as their max speed). if true it also shows a clear shift in focus away from nintendo as a competitor in the handheld market as i speculated....sony are clearly going after apple. now if they sell it at cost (im assuming itll cost 350-400 per unit to make at launch) and advertise it well they could pull the rug from under apple as far as apple making inroads into gaming goes. they will also need to work on the interface...XMB simply wont cut it. as for the battery....there using an OLED screen which is very smart. there far more power efficent than normal LCDs and the screen is always one of the big drains in portable devices. i reckon ninty will take a similar route for the 3DSLite but thats for another thread. there is still going to be quite a bit of juice sucking though so a big battery will be a must. if they can get it to 6 hours of gaming then job done. but yeah interesting indeed.osan0
I can't really see that... Apple will continue to make inroads into gaming regardless of how the PSP2 does, as long as the iPhone remains the single most popular smartphone on the market. And with their recent spread over to Verizon, that's pretty much a guarantee at this point. A phone is viewed as a utility of necessity (even though no one really needs an iPhone) but a gaming console is seen as a utility of choice. If this device is successful, it will get a lot of iOS ports, but it probably won't affect the continued growth of App Store.

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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

god...this REALLY sounds like last gens PSP vs. DS

but i really hope the PSP2 actually has ALOT of good games this time around and not just a mere handful

musicalmac

Dual analogs alone are going to make the games better.

yea i hope you're right

IMO the 3DS doesn't need dual because the touch screen is great for aiming in FPS's.....metroid prime hunters had amazing FPS controls IMO...game sucked though :P

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yea i hope you're right

IMO the 3DS doesn't need dual because the touch screen is great for aiming in FPS's.....metroid prime hunters had amazing FPS controls IMO...game sucked though :P

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It's ok, I have Hunters on my DS. Dual analogs is really a more comfortable experience, though. Plus, it seems like a waste of touch screen space to use it as a way to control the camera.
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BEAST

[spoiler] if true :P [/spoiler]

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]No. Battery. Life. Whatsoever. wakefulness

You must've meant to post that in the 3DS thread. :P

just posting this here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419354

"How's the battery power?

The system will take about 3 1/2 hours to charge and then last about three to five hours on a full charge. That's with the 3D effects activated. The company guesses that people who keep the 3D turned off could get as many as eight hours. Turning off the system's wireless via a switch, lowering its brightness settings or even running it in a dimmer power-save mode will all help the machine last longer. The system charges off of a power cord or while sitting in a plugged-in "cradle."

^ not the first time I'm posting this and it will not be the last.

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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

yea i hope you're right

IMO the 3DS doesn't need dual because the touch screen is great for aiming in FPS's.....metroid prime hunters had amazing FPS controls IMO...game sucked though :P

musicalmac

It's ok, I have Hunters on my DS. Dual analogs is really a more comfortable experience, though. Plus, it seems like a waste of touch screen space to use it as a way to control the camera.

really it just depends if the analogs have improved at all

having two is great...but i also want the quality of the analogs to improve as well

the nubs just really cramped my thumps way too fast....i think 3ds inward design looks more comfortable than the PSP's nubs

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Well technologically speaking it's just fine, but how much is it going to cost vs. a dual core? Is the performance increase really worth jacking up the production costs for, when competitive pricing is THE most important factor here?musicalmac
All they have to do it get it to 299USD. Hit that price point, and you've got a bargain (IF, it's a big if). I'm more interested in a company doing everything they can to make the best possible products for the consumer. Assuming this is true, Sony did that better than Nintendo for the next round of handhelds. That's where I stand.

We'll see on Thursday. Personally I don't think having the shiniest graphics will allow them to charge whatever they want.
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i'll LMAO is thursday is just a spec announcement and a design show and they say NOTHING about the price and show NO games...lmao

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Well technologically speaking it's just fine, but how much is it going to cost vs. a dual core? Is the performance increase really worth jacking up the production costs for, when competitive pricing is THE most important factor here?musicalmac
All they have to do it get it to 299USD. Hit that price point, and you've got a bargain (IF, it's a big if). I'm more interested in a company doing everything they can to make the best possible products for the consumer. Assuming this is true, Sony did that better than Nintendo for the next round of handhelds. That's where I stand.

Yeah i agree, atleast Sony want to move forward in the world, not wait for someone to do something and then just try and outdo them.(looks at Intel and AMD). Atleast Sony push the industry forward instead of stalemate waiting for someone else to make the first move.
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If it is DD only then I guess PSP owners with a pile of games on UMD better get ready to buy them again... :(
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#92 CDUB316
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If it is DD only then I guess PSP owners with a pile of games on UMD better get ready to buy them again... :(misiufraggle

or just not get rid of their PSP's?

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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

yea i hope you're right

IMO the 3DS doesn't need dual because the touch screen is great for aiming in FPS's.....metroid prime hunters had amazing FPS controls IMO...game sucked though :P

musicalmac

It's ok, I have Hunters on my DS. Dual analogs is really a more comfortable experience, though. Plus, it seems like a waste of touch screen space to use it as a way to control the camera.

Take your DS in your hands right now. Put your thumb where the 3DS stick is and put the other on the right part of the touch screen (like with RE: Revelations). Is it really uncomfortable to you, I mean really.

and how is it a waste of space, touch screen is there for menus and additional controls (like a 2nd analog) and also for Backward compatibility.

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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

god...this REALLY sounds like last gens PSP vs. DS

but i really hope the PSP2 actually has ALOT of good games this time around and not just a mere handful

musicalmac
Dual analogs alone are going to make the games better.

Some games. Just like some games were better suited for PSP because it had an analog input. But the DS had no problem producing great games that didn't require precise camera control, and I doubt the 3DS will either.
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Original Link Updated!

-Features External 'Pocket Processing Unit' , resembles a 'heavily stylized grenade'

-Games streamed from PPU to screen 'via Wifi', extremely fast with new image compression technology

-Battery life Up to 8 hours

-PPU takes 3.5 hours to charge, Core Unit 2-2.5 hours

Wow, looks like it's going down the OnLive route, should be interesting for those who game naked though..

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#96 danish-death
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="CDUB316"]

wait....is this DD only?

if so then that's total fail and turns me off completely

CDUB316

Apple and 10 billion digitally downloaded apps disagree.

PSPgo disagrees with your disagree

lol...do you have ANYTHING you don't like about the PSP2?

There was not real reason to by the PSP GO when you could just as well buy an older model that was way cheaper. This however, is a completely new system and who knows if Sony has something up their sleeves? If Sony markets this the right way I don't see why this shouldn't work..
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#97 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

We'll see on Thursday. Personally I don't think having the shiniest graphics will allow them to charge whatever they want.

I'm not sure what that means. I never said anything about this.

Take your DS in your hands right now. Put your thumb where the 3DS stick is and put the other on the right part of the touch screen (like with RE: Revelations). Is it really uncomfortable to you, I mean really.

and how is it a waste of space, touch screen is there for menus and additional controls (like a 2nd analog) and also for Backward compatibility.

laus_basic
It's a waste of space because removing the need to occupy it with a camera control region frees the entire thing up. You can do loads of cool stuff with a touch screen, because you have total freedom over how the user interacts with it. Utilizing the space for camera controls alone really seems like a wasted opportunity.
Some games. Just like some games were better suited for PSP because it had an analog input. But the DS had no problem producing great games that didn't require precise camera control, and I doubt the 3DS will either. Cherokee_Jack
Assuming the rumored dual analogs are better than the current nub, it will give developers a world of options for controlling their games, and it'll be a more natural development process as well, since dual analog controllers are the standard.
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Just as long as the price is not five-hundred-and-ninety-nine-US-Dollars. I'm happy.

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#99 Easyle
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]I'm going to say these are strictly debug specs if true. Quad core for a handheld is moronic.SoraX64
Why is it moronic?

Most PC games don't even utilize 4 cores, putting a quad core in a handheld is more than overkill.

If PC games don't use quad core yet, how long do you think the PSP2 will last? A lot longer then 6 years. Think a little.
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#100 wakefulness
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]No. Battery. Life. Whatsoever. laus_basic

You must've meant to post that in the 3DS thread. :P

just posting this here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419354

"How's the battery power?

The system will take about 3 1/2 hours to charge and then last about three to five hours on a full charge. That's with the 3D effects activated. The company guesses that people who keep the 3D turned off could get as many as eight hours. Turning off the system's wireless via a switch, lowering its brightness settings or even running it in a dimmer power-save mode will all help the machine last longer. The system charges off of a power cord or while sitting in a plugged-in "cradle."

^ not the first time I'm posting this and it will not be the last.

I saw you before in another thread and didn't comment but, 3 hours on the lowest settings with 3D on (that some games may use) isn't something to promote. Even with the 3D being toggled on and off (adding a a few more mins), it is nothing. The PSP at max settings got at least 4.5 hours (check wikipeda).

I posted in another thread that the Pica GPU also hasn't been as well tested as something like the PowerVR and considering the bulk of extreme multimedia processgoes through the gpu, I wouldn't be surprised if the PSP2 does better than the 3DS.

I also said it would be best to see the official specs of both consoles, gage personal usage and make a fair assumption. This was just a quick jive. I didn't expect other to be involved and take it seriously but, it's on theinternet.

Smile, your on candid camera! :P lol

Edit: my thumb slipped and had typed some gibberish. :p