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[QUOTE="GrieverTheGreat"][QUOTE="-Y2J-"]i heard its a fakeVasichko
thats not fake somethings you cant photoshop
You can pretty much photoshop everything. It looks kinda fishy to me. yeah it looks real suspicious that M$ would actually do this BS screwing me and other early xbox 360 gamersany who it just proves if true that MS rushed there console and that ps3 is future proof either way you look at it.
[QUOTE="T-Zone"]Now, it seems that MS doesnt really care about its gamers, if they just gon giive up on the first 360. Take a look at the original Xbox, after the 360's release. The Xbox was completely kicked to the curb after a short lifespan due to 360. If this happens again, then Version 2, would be more focused on...mjd1001I say just the opposite. By not offering HDMI and a larger hard drive last year, MS gave gamers a console that will play the same games as this 'updated' one will, but gave them that console for a LOT less money than if this updated one was available at launch. Had these features been available at launch, there wouldn't have been much use for them (or at least as much as there is now) and it would have cost a lot more. MS has not been shy about saying they are going to give consumers the best product for the money, and offer upgrades when available. I wouldn't be surprised if when this is launched, an HDMI cable is also going to be made available for owners of the current 360. but the question i ask you is, why did MS say we dont need HDMI or a bigger HD like what 8-9months ago, to counter PS3 hd space and HDMI. now they are saying we need it? are they trying to future proof a product now? I trusted MS word and bought it . felt comfortable with my purchase. NOw MS comes out a year later pretty much stating what they said before is bunch of BS.
[QUOTE="Alucard-Shat"][QUOTE="blackace"]Yes..yes, and that's why HD-DVD is currently beating it in both hardware and DVD sales. Even the demand for the PS3 has started to slow as well. I think you need to do some research. osusfaith
HDDVD isn't even close in beating DVD in sales.
DVD is still selling overwhelmingly more than HDDVD and Blu Ray.
I think he meant hardware as in "players", and dvd's as in "software" (meaning hd-dvd software vs. blu-ray software)I was responding to this comment.
"Do some research before your talk BS. BluRay in PS3 is the best on the market. Where does MS find these guys?"
Had nothing to do with regular DVD's. Had to do with Blu-Ray, which is not outselling DVD's or HD-DVD at the moment. LG just announced the dual-player anyways. So why even waste your money on a seperate Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player, when you can get them both in one dual-player?
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]If this comes out and MS doesn't offer some sort of free or cheap upgrade service (as unlikely as that is) I'm going to be pissed. This milkage is pretty high up on the list in my opinion.Doomlike_Mitc
Now lemmings telling me its my fault for buying a console at launch and should of waited. If i would of knowng a year and half later a new version of 360 is coming out i would of. But what MS should OF DONE IS GET THE JOB DONE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. AND NOT FUTURE PROOF A PRODUCT 1AND HALF Y EARS LATER.
Why is it always Microsoft's fault?
They told everyone a new CPU that is smaller, less heat and less energy would be released in 2007.
They told everyone that if there was a demand for HDMI... They would include it.
They told everyone that they would be looking at making a larger hard drive in the future.
Now it's coming to life. Because the demand is there. Now every one is crying about it. Well now you have it. Now you can stop crying about you not having it.
Don't cry because you couldn't wait an extra year to get one of these upgraded Xbox 360s. It's your fault. Not Microsoft's.
problem with your logic is this. MS KNEW THEY WAS GOING TO ADD CONTENT THAT YOU CAN DL which is going to EAT UP 20GIGS OF SPACE REALLY FAST (you know the stuff they been braggina bout in the past month like TV SHOWS , MOVIES) . but yet they rushed a console out. 2 MS KNEW ABOUT HDMI TECH, BUT FELT THEY SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT OUT. Because they wanted to rushe a console out. yes im pissed. because MS SAID , WE DOTN NEED THAT . OUR CONSOLE IS JUST FOR GAMING. and made fun of sony for making a MEDIA PLAYER.Why is it always Microsoft's fault?
They told everyone a new CPU that is smaller, less heat and less energy would be released in 2007.
They told everyone that if there was a demand for HDMI... They would include it.
They told everyone that they would be looking at making a larger hard drive in the future.
Now it's coming to life. Because the demand is there. Now every one is crying about it. Well you now you have it. Now you can stop crying you don't have it.
Don't cry because you couldn't wait an extra year to get one of these upgraded Xbox 360s. It's your fault. Not Microsoft's.
Truth_Hurts_U
problem with your logic is this. MS KNEW THEY WAS GOING TO ADD CONTENT THAT YOU CAN DL which is going to EAT UP 20GIGS OF SPACE REALLY FAST (you know the stuff they been braggina bout in the past month like TV SHOWS , MOVIES) . but yet they rushed a console out. 2 MS KNEW ABOUT HDMI TECH, BUT FELT THEY SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT OUT. Because they wanted to rushe a console out. yes im pissed. because MS SAID , WE DOTN NEED THAT . OUR CONSOLE IS JUST FOR GAMING. and made fun of sony for making a MEDIA PLAYER. alfy13
Problem with your logic. You didn't keep up with the 360 through it's life.
HDMI is expensive. They left it out because the cable would be to much for people to want to purchase. Xbox 360 uses a universal output... It can do many things. They said that a HDMI cable is possible.
20 Gigs is more then enough for me. I don't have Xbox live and I delete old save files. I still have 14 GB free. The 20 GB portable hard drive is expensive to make. Due to it's study designe. They left out bigger versions till the time is right for the demand and the price.
Xbox 360 is a games console. You don't need any of that for games. VGA is fine. 20 GB is fine.
When you want more then a games console then... VGA isn't fine and 20 GB isn't fine. This market is smaller... This market comes last.
[QUOTE="alfy13"] problem with your logic is this. MS KNEW THEY WAS GOING TO ADD CONTENT THAT YOU CAN DL which is going to EAT UP 20GIGS OF SPACE REALLY FAST (you know the stuff they been braggina bout in the past month like TV SHOWS , MOVIES) . but yet they rushed a console out. 2 MS KNEW ABOUT HDMI TECH, BUT FELT THEY SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT OUT. Because they wanted to rushe a console out. yes im pissed. because MS SAID , WE DOTN NEED THAT . OUR CONSOLE IS JUST FOR GAMING. and made fun of sony for making a MEDIA PLAYER. Truth_Hurts_U
Problem with your logic. You didn't keep up with the 360 through it's life.
HDMI is expensive. They left it out because the cable would be to much for people to want to purchase. Xbox 360 uses a universal output... It can do many things. They said that a HDMI cable is possible.
20 Gigs is more then enough for me. I don't have Xbox live and I delete old save files. I still have 14 GB free. The 20 GB portable hard drive is expensive to make. Due to it's study designe. They left out bigger versions till the time is right for the demand and the price.
Xbox 360 is a games console. You don't need any of that for games. VGA is fine. 20 GB is fine.
When you want more then a games console then... VGA isn't fine and 20 GB isn't fine. This market is smaller... This market comes last.
problem with your logic is this
1. HDMI is not expensive. here www.monoprice.com have a blast buying a 10-17dollar hdmi oh after looking at that site. read this http://hdguru.com/?p=12 enjoy. really good read i must say. but like i said. MS knew about this so called DL MOVIES AND TV SHOWS and they knew that 20GIGS GETS USED UP FAST for this type of service. but oh yah im paying 50.00 a year for what? to play FPS MP ganes that i can play on my PC for free? oh well this is the last time MS bends me over and dupe me.
sad things is with xbox 1 they at least gave me 3-4yrs to enjoy my purchase before they screwe me over. now this time its 1 and half year later. i rather have 3-4yrs Vs 1 1/2 yrs
problem with your logic is this
1. HDMI is not expensive. here www.monoprice.com have a blast buying a 10-17dollar hdmi oh after looking at that site. read this http://hdguru.com/?p=12 enjoy. really good read i must say. but like i said. MS knew about this so called DL MOVIES AND TV SHOWS and they knew that 20GIGS GETS USED UP FAST for this type of service. but oh yah im paying 50.00 a year for what? to play FPS MP ganes that i can play on my PC for free? oh well this is the last time MS bends me over and dupe me.
sad things is with xbox 1 they at least gave me 3-4yrs to enjoy my purchase before they screwe me over. now this time its 1 and half year later. i rather have 3-4yrs Vs 1 1/2 yrs
alfy13
Did you skip reading class?
HDMI cable would have cost to much. Xbox 360 uses a universal output. It is a nonstandard cable. There for it would cost more...
Like I said 360 is a games console. It uses a specially designed hard drive. It is a nonstandard hard drive. There for it would cost more...
They have to weigh everything. You just can't make something and expect people to buy it. There has to be demand. People have to be willing to pay for it.
Costs came down. It's been over a year since the launch of the 360. It will be almost 2 years since the launch once this stuff sees the light of day.
Where is the surprise and the deceit?
[QUOTE="alfy13"] problem with your logic is this. MS KNEW THEY WAS GOING TO ADD CONTENT THAT YOU CAN DL which is going to EAT UP 20GIGS OF SPACE REALLY FAST (you know the stuff they been braggina bout in the past month like TV SHOWS , MOVIES) . but yet they rushed a console out. 2 MS KNEW ABOUT HDMI TECH, BUT FELT THEY SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT OUT. Because they wanted to rushe a console out. yes im pissed. because MS SAID , WE DOTN NEED THAT . OUR CONSOLE IS JUST FOR GAMING. and made fun of sony for making a MEDIA PLAYER. Truth_Hurts_U
Problem with your logic. You didn't keep up with the 360 through it's life.
HDMI is expensive. They left it out because the cable would be to much for people to want to purchase. Xbox 360 uses a universal output... It can do many things. They said that a HDMI cable is possible.
20 Gigs is more then enough for me. I don't have Xbox live and I delete old save files. I still have 14 GB free. The 20 GB portable hard drive is expensive to make. Due to it's study designe. They left out bigger versions till the time is right for the demand and the price.
Xbox 360 is a games console. You don't need any of that for games. VGA is fine. 20 GB is fine.
When you want more then a games console then... VGA isn't fine and 20 GB isn't fine. This market is smaller... This market comes last.
DID YOU JUST FORGOT WHAT YOU TYPED EARLIER?
DID YOU JUST FORGOT WHAT YOU TYPED EARLIER?
alfy13
Good day sir.. You proved my point. :wink:
[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"][QUOTE="alfy13"] problem with your logic is this. MS KNEW THEY WAS GOING TO ADD CONTENT THAT YOU CAN DL which is going to EAT UP 20GIGS OF SPACE REALLY FAST (you know the stuff they been braggina bout in the past month like TV SHOWS , MOVIES) . but yet they rushed a console out. 2 MS KNEW ABOUT HDMI TECH, BUT FELT THEY SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT OUT. Because they wanted to rushe a console out. yes im pissed. because MS SAID , WE DOTN NEED THAT . OUR CONSOLE IS JUST FOR GAMING. and made fun of sony for making a MEDIA PLAYER. alfy13
Problem with your logic. You didn't keep up with the 360 through it's life.
HDMI is expensive. They left it out because the cable would be to much for people to want to purchase. Xbox 360 uses a universal output... It can do many things. They said that a HDMI cable is possible.
20 Gigs is more then enough for me. I don't have Xbox live and I delete old save files. I still have 14 GB free. The 20 GB portable hard drive is expensive to make. Due to it's study designe. They left out bigger versions till the time is right for the demand and the price.
Xbox 360 is a games console. You don't need any of that for games. VGA is fine. 20 GB is fine.
When you want more then a games console then... VGA isn't fine and 20 GB isn't fine. This market is smaller... This market comes last.
problem with your logic is this
1. HDMI is not expensive. here www.monoprice.com have a blast buying a 10-17dollar hdmi oh after looking at that site. read this http://hdguru.com/?p=12 enjoy. really good read i must say. but like i said. MS knew about this so called DL MOVIES AND TV SHOWS and they knew that 20GIGS GETS USED UP FAST for this type of service. but oh yah im paying 50.00 a year for what? to play FPS MP ganes that i can play on my PC for free? oh well this is the last time MS bends me over and dupe me.
sad things is with xbox 1 they at least gave me 3-4yrs to enjoy my purchase before they screwe me over. now this time its 1 and half year later. i rather have 3-4yrs Vs 1 1/2 yrs
Good, sale your Xbox 360 to someone whom wants it and you can stick to playing PC games. End of argument, go do that now.[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"][QUOTE="alfy13"] problem with your logic is this. MS KNEW THEY WAS GOING TO ADD CONTENT THAT YOU CAN DL which is going to EAT UP 20GIGS OF SPACE REALLY FAST (you know the stuff they been braggina bout in the past month like TV SHOWS , MOVIES) . but yet they rushed a console out. 2 MS KNEW ABOUT HDMI TECH, BUT FELT THEY SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT OUT. Because they wanted to rushe a console out. yes im pissed. because MS SAID , WE DOTN NEED THAT . OUR CONSOLE IS JUST FOR GAMING. and made fun of sony for making a MEDIA PLAYER. shawn7324
Problem with your logic. You didn't keep up with the 360 through it's life.
HDMI is expensive. They left it out because the cable would be to much for people to want to purchase. Xbox 360 uses a universal output... It can do many things. They said that a HDMI cable is possible.
20 Gigs is more then enough for me. I don't have Xbox live and I delete old save files. I still have 14 GB free. The 20 GB portable hard drive is expensive to make. Due to it's study designe. They left out bigger versions till the time is right for the demand and the price.
Xbox 360 is a games console. You don't need any of that for games. VGA is fine. 20 GB is fine.
When you want more then a games console then... VGA isn't fine and 20 GB isn't fine. This market is smaller... This market comes last.
problem with your logic is this
1. HDMI is not expensive. here www.monoprice.com have a blast buying a 10-17dollar hdmi oh after looking at that site. read this http://hdguru.com/?p=12 enjoy. really good read i must say. but like i said. MS knew about this so called DL MOVIES AND TV SHOWS and they knew that 20GIGS GETS USED UP FAST for this type of service. but oh yah im paying 50.00 a year for what? to play FPS MP ganes that i can play on my PC for free? oh well this is the last time MS bends me over and dupe me.
sad things is with xbox 1 they at least gave me 3-4yrs to enjoy my purchase before they screwe me over. now this time its 1 and half year later. i rather have 3-4yrs Vs 1 1/2 yrs
Good, sale your Xbox 360 to someone whom wants it and you can stick to playing PC games. End of argument, go do that now. so your tellling me . i should of waited a year and half to get the 360? because MS WASNT SURE WHAT TO DO ? god you lemmings are so sad. and you want us casuuals to buy the system. BUT DOWN US FOR BUYING IT A YEAR AND HALF TO EARLY.What the gay I just got a 360 for Christmas and now they're "allegedly" making a new one??cyborgjak427Yep but to lemmings, its your fault. even though you didnt know a year later there will be a better version out. DONT YOU JUST LOVE HOW LEMMINGS THINK? OR ANY FANBOY OF ANY CONSOLE? god they are so pathetic. but they want us causual to sit and take it up the axx and say its A OK MS.
if this is true. i hope it cost more then 399.00, because if not. then i guess that is what i get for getting a launch version 360. Hopefully they will alllow us to upgrade our hard drives at least. http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/05/the-second-xbox-360-revealed-codename-zephyr/alfy13
[QUOTE="shawn7324"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"][QUOTE="alfy13"] problem with your logic is this. MS KNEW THEY WAS GOING TO ADD CONTENT THAT YOU CAN DL which is going to EAT UP 20GIGS OF SPACE REALLY FAST (you know the stuff they been braggina bout in the past month like TV SHOWS , MOVIES) . but yet they rushed a console out. 2 MS KNEW ABOUT HDMI TECH, BUT FELT THEY SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT OUT. Because they wanted to rushe a console out. yes im pissed. because MS SAID , WE DOTN NEED THAT . OUR CONSOLE IS JUST FOR GAMING. and made fun of sony for making a MEDIA PLAYER. alfy13
Problem with your logic. You didn't keep up with the 360 through it's life.
HDMI is expensive. They left it out because the cable would be to much for people to want to purchase. Xbox 360 uses a universal output... It can do many things. They said that a HDMI cable is possible.
20 Gigs is more then enough for me. I don't have Xbox live and I delete old save files. I still have 14 GB free. The 20 GB portable hard drive is expensive to make. Due to it's study designe. They left out bigger versions till the time is right for the demand and the price.
Xbox 360 is a games console. You don't need any of that for games. VGA is fine. 20 GB is fine.
When you want more then a games console then... VGA isn't fine and 20 GB isn't fine. This market is smaller... This market comes last.
problem with your logic is this
1. HDMI is not expensive. here www.monoprice.com have a blast buying a 10-17dollar hdmi oh after looking at that site. read this http://hdguru.com/?p=12 enjoy. really good read i must say. but like i said. MS knew about this so called DL MOVIES AND TV SHOWS and they knew that 20GIGS GETS USED UP FAST for this type of service. but oh yah im paying 50.00 a year for what? to play FPS MP ganes that i can play on my PC for free? oh well this is the last time MS bends me over and dupe me.
sad things is with xbox 1 they at least gave me 3-4yrs to enjoy my purchase before they screwe me over. now this time its 1 and half year later. i rather have 3-4yrs Vs 1 1/2 yrs
Good, sale your Xbox 360 to someone whom wants it and you can stick to playing PC games. End of argument, go do that now. so your tellling me . i should of waited a year and half to get the 360? because MS WASNT SURE WHAT TO DO ? god you lemmings are so sad. and you want us casuuals to buy the system. BUT DOWN US FOR BUYING IT A YEAR AND HALF TO EARLY. No I'm saying you shouldn't of gotten an Xbox 360 at all. I got the Xbox 360, it runs fine has awesome games, and if a new verison is released thats not going to stop me from not having any trouble what so ever to play games is it. So as I've stated before quit blabbing on and on fanboy this microsoft that and just get rid of your Xbox 360 stick to your PC, which is better anyways right, and move on.[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="shawn7324"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"][QUOTE="alfy13"] problem with your logic is this. MS KNEW THEY WAS GOING TO ADD CONTENT THAT YOU CAN DL which is going to EAT UP 20GIGS OF SPACE REALLY FAST (you know the stuff they been braggina bout in the past month like TV SHOWS , MOVIES) . but yet they rushed a console out. 2 MS KNEW ABOUT HDMI TECH, BUT FELT THEY SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT OUT. Because they wanted to rushe a console out. yes im pissed. because MS SAID , WE DOTN NEED THAT . OUR CONSOLE IS JUST FOR GAMING. and made fun of sony for making a MEDIA PLAYER. shawn7324
Problem with your logic. You didn't keep up with the 360 through it's life.
HDMI is expensive. They left it out because the cable would be to much for people to want to purchase. Xbox 360 uses a universal output... It can do many things. They said that a HDMI cable is possible.
20 Gigs is more then enough for me. I don't have Xbox live and I delete old save files. I still have 14 GB free. The 20 GB portable hard drive is expensive to make. Due to it's study designe. They left out bigger versions till the time is right for the demand and the price.
Xbox 360 is a games console. You don't need any of that for games. VGA is fine. 20 GB is fine.
When you want more then a games console then... VGA isn't fine and 20 GB isn't fine. This market is smaller... This market comes last.
problem with your logic is this
1. HDMI is not expensive. here www.monoprice.com have a blast buying a 10-17dollar hdmi oh after looking at that site. read this http://hdguru.com/?p=12 enjoy. really good read i must say. but like i said. MS knew about this so called DL MOVIES AND TV SHOWS and they knew that 20GIGS GETS USED UP FAST for this type of service. but oh yah im paying 50.00 a year for what? to play FPS MP ganes that i can play on my PC for free? oh well this is the last time MS bends me over and dupe me.
sad things is with xbox 1 they at least gave me 3-4yrs to enjoy my purchase before they screwe me over. now this time its 1 and half year later. i rather have 3-4yrs Vs 1 1/2 yrs
Good, sale your Xbox 360 to someone whom wants it and you can stick to playing PC games. End of argument, go do that now. so your tellling me . i should of waited a year and half to get the 360? because MS WASNT SURE WHAT TO DO ? god you lemmings are so sad. and you want us casuuals to buy the system. BUT DOWN US FOR BUYING IT A YEAR AND HALF TO EARLY. No I'm saying you shouldn't of gotten an Xbox 360 at all. I got the Xbox 360, it runs fine has awesome games, and if a new verison is released thats not going to stop me from not having any trouble what so ever to play games is it. So as I've stated before quit blabbing on and on fanboy this microsoft that and just get rid of your Xbox 360 stick to your PC, which is better anyways right, and move on.Oh now its called babbling , because MS made a console that i like, but thougth they shoudl just rush it out the door. and future proof it a year and half later. you know how stupid that sounds? they could of done a year ago. but all of sudden its babbling. because your precious MS can never do wrong to its customers.
You and lemmings can stay blind, like fanboys ususally do. but the truth is. they could of done this right the first time. but yet they didnt , but now its ok because its MS that done it. .
[QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="Alucard-Shat"][QUOTE="blackace"]Yes..yes, and that's why HD-DVD is currently beating it in both hardware and DVD sales. Even the demand for the PS3 has started to slow as well. I think you need to do some research. Alucard-Shat
HDDVD isn't even close in beating DVD in sales.
DVD is still selling overwhelmingly more than HDDVD and Blu Ray.
I think he meant hardware as in "players", and dvd's as in "software" (meaning hd-dvd software vs. blu-ray software)He said DVD's.
Blu Ray discs aren't DVD's. They are completely different media. They look the same, but they're not... just like how CD's and DVD's look the same but are different forms of optical disc media.
I meant Blu-Ray discs. I was responding to a Blu-Ray comment, so it was kind of obvious.
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