Rumour: Revised Wii U Controller - Proper Analog Sticks.

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#101 the9thinning
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Actually, I think that is the old design (or what was originally claimed to be the old design is in fact the new design but I doubt it)...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35468866&postcount=10922

Yep, after doing a minimal amount of research I'm calling this as the old model and not a new model.

amaneuvering

Actually, the guy later said that it is indeed the new model. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38023740&postcount=15580

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#102 SuperFlakeman
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I have no preference when it comes to what kind of stick they should use. Can't really tell which version I'd prefer overall either. Visually I prefer the old version, why did they make the new one wider?

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#103 SuperFlakeman
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CVLEp.jpg

Oh great, they added a mystery square under the D-Pad. Now I'm going to have many sleepless nights 'till E3.

Also, that ring around the home button lights up blue when you press it.

D4W1L4H

Vitality Sensor placeholder :P

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#104 PatchMaster
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The sticks look a little awkward but that doesn't really matter since it should make the whole thing more ergonomic. Switching to proper analog is definitely the right choice. Without it third-party games (especially shooters) just wouldn't work.

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#105 Audacitron
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Seems less like a tablet with buttons; more like a controller with a screen.

Approved.

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#106 SuperFlakeman
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Seems less like a tablet with buttons; more like a controller with a screen.

Approved.

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#107 m_machine024
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The home button looks hard to reach.

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#108 SuperFlakeman
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The home button looks hard to reach.

m_machine024

Thankfully it is never used during gameplay.

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#109 YoshiYogurt
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Ah much nicer, not a fan of the circle pad, works nicely on the clam-shell 3ds, but they are just unnecessary on the WiiU
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#110 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

The home button looks hard to reach.

SuperFlakeman

Thankfully it is never used during gameplay.

Yeah. I was gonna say that the + and - buttons are right next to it but it looks like they change places in the latest revision. The controller is getting more and more perfect. :P

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#111 osan0
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[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Actually, I think that is the old design (or what was originally claimed to be the old design is in fact the new design but I doubt it)...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35468866&postcount=10922

Yep, after doing a minimal amount of research I'm calling this as the old model and not a new model.

the9thinning

Actually, the guy later said that it is indeed the new model. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38023740&postcount=15580

oh thanks for that.
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#112 sailor232
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Maybe one of the square buttons is a sync button, which would be good as it means their will be more than one controller tablet allowed per WiiU.

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#113 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

:evil: They made... The touch screen... Smaller?laus_basic

It's not gonna be smaller. Also, nice comparison gif between the old and new version (credit to hym from neoGAF)

dat controller be derpin'.
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#114 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]What do the squares do? WHAT DO THE SQUARES MEAN? WHATS GOING ON? PLZ SOMEONEZ!painguy1


upTLE.jpg

according to a poster on GAF the controller will say "What's wrong with you" if u turn off the WiiU

This picture made me laugh pretty good. lol. The mystery square is where Regie watches you from. It opens like a door and he goes "waa" when it opens.
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#115 killzowned24
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Looks terrible!!! The right analog spot is a joke and will no doubt be worse.just put you keyboard in right hand and switch the wiiu controls with keys to get a feeling= crap
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#116 Kashiwaba
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Wii u is shaping to be my console of choice for next gen.

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#117 SaltyMeatballs
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I have no preference when it comes to what kind of stick they should use. Can't really tell which version I'd prefer overall either. Visually I prefer the old version, why did they make the new one wider?

SuperFlakeman
It's not wider, it's more narrow so it looks wider.
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#118 DSmon
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My guess for the functions of the square buttons is that one is for changing screen brightness and one for either syncing the controller or for streaming games to the Upad.

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#119 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]What do the squares do? WHAT DO THE SQUARES MEAN? WHATS GOING ON? PLZ SOMEONEZ!painguy1


upTLE.jpg

according to a poster on GAF the controller will say "What's wrong with you" if u turn off the WiiU

That picture alone made me laugh really hard. Why the hell is that so funny. :lol:

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#120 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

I have no preference when it comes to what kind of stick they should use. Can't really tell which version I'd prefer overall either. Visually I prefer the old version, why did they make the new one wider?

SaltyMeatballs

It's not wider, it's more narrow so it looks wider.

If we assume the screen and button sizes are the same, it definitely is the same height but wider. Look at the space between the d-pad and the edge on both screenshots.

Edit: lol I just went through the gaf thread: "It's wider. See how much space there is between the d-pad and the edges in both pics?"great minds something something

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#121 tomarlyn
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Looks legit, kinda messy though with all the buttons scattered around. Thanks Nintendo for going back to analogue.
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#122 SuperFlakeman
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Looks legit, kinda messy though with all the buttons scattered around. Thanks Nintendo for going back to analogue.tomarlyn

But what if Zelda HD will be wm+ based, like SS?

Aonuma has already hinted multiple times that they can't see themselves abandoning motion controls ^_^

I.e., use the control scheme that works best for the specific game. The Wiimote will still very much be in play considering it will be the only way to play local MP since there is no way it can support 4 tablets, maybe not even 2.

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#123 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

I have no preference when it comes to what kind of stick they should use. Can't really tell which version I'd prefer overall either. Visually I prefer the old version, why did they make the new one wider?

SuperFlakeman

It's not wider, it's more narrow so it looks wider.

If we assume the screen and button sizes are the same, it definitely is the same height but wider. Look at the space between the d-pad and the edge on both screenshots.

Edit: lol I just went through the gaf thread: "It's wider. See how much space there is between the d-pad and the edges in both pics?"great minds something something

they moved the Dpad and the buttons closer to the screen :/
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#124 SolidTy
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Okay, I'm sold. Are they clickable?charizard1605

People love Sony's clickable R3/L3. It's a standard these days. :P

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#125 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] It's not wider, it's more narrow so it looks wider.BrunoBRS

If we assume the screen and button sizes are the same, it definitely is the same height but wider. Look at the space between the d-pad and the edge on both screenshots.

Edit: lol I just went through the gaf thread: "It's wider. See how much space there is between the d-pad and the edges in both pics?"great minds something something

they moved the Dpad and the buttons closer to the screen :/

Yeah but I still think it's slightly wider, wanna bet??

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#126 Raymundo_Manuel
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I had no idea they were circle pads to begin with, so this news doesn't really phase me.

I'm more concerned with other controller news. I really really really really really really really really really really don't want them to keep the Wii Remote around as a "primary" controller for the console.

I would like to see either compatibility with four tablet controllers, or one tablet controller + three standalone wireless (with rechargeable battery pack) classic controller pros.

Unless of course they really enhance the Wii Remote, and actually make it accurate, and give it a rechargeable battery pack, and remove the need to tether it to the nunchuk or classic controller

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#127 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, I'm sold. Are they clickable?SolidTy

People love Sony's clickable R3/L3. It's a standard these days. :P

Shhhhhhhh SONY only copies they never innovate.

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#128 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

If we assume the screen and button sizes are the same, it definitely is the same height but wider. Look at the space between the d-pad and the edge on both screenshots.

Edit: lol I just went through the gaf thread: "It's wider. See how much space there is between the d-pad and the edges in both pics?"great minds something something

SuperFlakeman

they moved the Dpad and the buttons closer to the screen :/

Yeah but I still think it's slightly wider, wanna bet??

no. the word "bet" has a sick, twisted definition in the realms of system wars :|
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#129 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Looks legit, kinda messy though with all the buttons scattered around. Thanks Nintendo for going back to analogue.SuperFlakeman

But what if Zelda HD will be wm+ based, like SS?

Aonuma has already hinted multiple times that they can't see themselves abandoning motion controls ^_^

I.e., use the control scheme that works best for the specific game. The Wiimote will still very much be in play considering it will be the only way to play local MP since there is no way it can support 4 tablets, maybe not even 2.

I doubt they'll pack in a Wiimote so support will be sketchy. I wouldn't dismiss the idea of Wiimote support but I'm just happy the default controller is more sensible. You can probably forget about split screen multiplayer IMO, how many mainstream multiplat games even have it this gen? First party casual games and 3rd party shovelware maybe, I just don't see it in the long run otherwise because the Wiimote will be relegated to an accessory.
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#130 senses_fail_06
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Yeah, not interested. Looks obtrusive.
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#131 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, I'm sold. Are they clickable?SolidTy

People love Sony's clickable R3/L3. It's a standard these days. :P

i'd rather not have them ever exist, TBH. it's just bad, but now it's become standard and trying to not have it will gimp your game :/
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#132 SuperFlakeman
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CVLEp.jpg

nintendo-wii-u-controller-bottom-edge_sl

nintendo_wii_u_controller_1.jpeg

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Looks wider to me

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#133 FIipMode
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That's much better.
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#134 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, I'm sold. Are they clickable?Kashiwaba

People love Sony's clickable R3/L3. It's a standard these days. :P

Shhhhhhhh SONY only copies they never innovate.

;)

Oops! :oops:

:P

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#135 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Looks legit, kinda messy though with all the buttons scattered around. Thanks Nintendo for going back to analogue.tomarlyn

But what if Zelda HD will be wm+ based, like SS?

Aonuma has already hinted multiple times that they can't see themselves abandoning motion controls ^_^

I.e., use the control scheme that works best for the specific game. The Wiimote will still very much be in play considering it will be the only way to play local MP since there is no way it can support 4 tablets, maybe not even 2.

I doubt they'll pack in a Wiimote so support will be sketchy. I wouldn't dismiss the idea of Wiimote support but I'm just happy the default controller is more sensible. You can probably forget about split screen multiplayer IMO, how many mainstream multiplat games even have it this gen? First party casual games and 3rd party shovelware maybe, I just don't see it in the long run otherwise because the Wiimote will be relegated to an accessory.

a) 100m Wii's sold => 100/200/300m Wiimotes out there in the wild.

b) having the wiimotes in play is a great way to off-set the loss of not getting profits off of Wii U tablet sales, since those won't be sold separately.

c) Nintendo heavily depends on local MP; Wii Sports, Resort, MK Wii, NSMB Wii

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#136 Big_Pecks
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I'm glad they're still playing around with it before launch instead of releasing it and then releasing an updated controller.

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CVLEp.jpg

nintendo-wii-u-controller-bottom-edge_sl

nintendo_wii_u_controller_1.jpeg

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Looks wider to me

SuperFlakeman

I'm just glad they are actually trying to polish the hardware b4 release. Not bashing the 3DS but I wish it had recieved the same treatment.

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#138 The_Joker1721
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Boy that controller looks awesome. Can't wait to try it out.
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#139 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

But what if Zelda HD will be wm+ based, like SS?

Aonuma has already hinted multiple times that they can't see themselves abandoning motion controls ^_^

I.e., use the control scheme that works best for the specific game. The Wiimote will still very much be in play considering it will be the only way to play local MP since there is no way it can support 4 tablets, maybe not even 2.

SuperFlakeman

I doubt they'll pack in a Wiimote so support will be sketchy. I wouldn't dismiss the idea of Wiimote support but I'm just happy the default controller is more sensible. You can probably forget about split screen multiplayer IMO, how many mainstream multiplat games even have it this gen? First party casual games and 3rd party shovelware maybe, I just don't see it in the long run otherwise because the Wiimote will be relegated to an accessory.

a) 100m Wii's sold => 100/200/300m Wiimotes out there in the wild.

b) having the wiimotes in play is a great way to off-set the loss of not getting profits off of Wii U tablet sales, since those won't be sold separately.

c) Nintendo heavily depends on local MP; Wii Sports, Resort, MK Wii, NSMB Wii

Yeah casual games may support them, may. Do you think casuals will even be encouraged to buy Wii U yet though? Just to play games the same way they do on their Wii? The rest of us will buy it just because its new. Motion control in games like Wii Sports stole them this gen, I think it will be social apps running on the tablet that they hope will steal them this time. Not more waggle.
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#140 sammyjenkis898
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I hope this is true. I can't stand circle pads. That said, that is one ugly controller.
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#141 Gamingclone
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Really it doesnt matter to me if the controller thinner but wider or somehow still the same size. As long as it is light, has good battery life, is comfy, and the squares do something amazing, then my body is ready.

*edit* Or in this case, my hands are ready, lol :P

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#142 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] I doubt they'll pack in a Wiimote so support will be sketchy. I wouldn't dismiss the idea of Wiimote support but I'm just happy the default controller is more sensible. You can probably forget about split screen multiplayer IMO, how many mainstream multiplat games even have it this gen? First party casual games and 3rd party shovelware maybe, I just don't see it in the long run otherwise because the Wiimote will be relegated to an accessory.tomarlyn

a) 100m Wii's sold => 100/200/300m Wiimotes out there in the wild.

b) having the wiimotes in play is a great way to off-set the loss of not getting profits off of Wii U tablet sales, since those won't be sold separately.

c) Nintendo heavily depends on local MP; Wii Sports, Resort, MK Wii, NSMB Wii

Yeah casual games may support them, may. Do you think casuals will even be encouraged to buy Wii U yet though? Just to play games the same way they do on their Wii? The rest of us will buy it just because its new. Motion control in games like Wii Sports stole them this gen, I think it will be social apps running on the tablet that they hope will steal them this time. Not more waggle.

You are out of touch with reality.

Well tbh it's software based, but I'm certain Nintendo has nailed it. Wii Pictionary = print moneys

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#143 bbkkristian
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I actually liked the circle pads :(

gameofthering
Yeah I was actually looking forward to the circle pads... Oh well. Analogs are good too.
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#144 TilxWLOC
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I figured the squares were hiding screws or something, controller looks great either way to me, functionally that is, and no it doesn't look bigger.

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#146 D4W1L4H
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That comparison GIF from GAF isn't accurate. Here's a better one I made using the Sizes from the patents:

They made the screen smaller!:cry:

WII-u-GIF-1.gif

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#147 SuperFlakeman
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It's ugly now...

And oh yeah eat crow btchess, it's noticeably wider.

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#148 -Patrick_92-
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It's ugly now...

SuperFlakeman
I disagree, it looks much better now.
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#149 TilxWLOC
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It's ugly now...

And oh yeah eat crow btchess, it's noticeably wider.

SuperFlakeman

Alright, you win this time.

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#150 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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With all the room there should be a drink holder or at least an indented space to place some. Nuts