Rumour: Revised Wii U Controller - Proper Analog Sticks.

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#201 AtariKidX
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And again it is a big ugly uncomfortable controller.lol
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#202 Timbury
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Just wondering what the weight of that thing is going to be? I'm not going to condemn it to I have seen more of it in action, it really doesn't make me want to pick it up and play with it.
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#203 haziqonfire
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Just wondering what the weight of that thing is going to be? I'm not going to condemn it to I have seen more of it in action, it really doesn't make me want to pick it up and play with it.Timbury
Based on what people said last year, it's fairly light. Really want to get my hands on one though.
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#204 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

a) 100m Wii's sold => 100/200/300m Wiimotes out there in the wild.

b) having the wiimotes in play is a great way to off-set the loss of not getting profits off of Wii U tablet sales, since those won't be sold separately.

c) Nintendo heavily depends on local MP; Wii Sports, Resort, MK Wii, NSMB Wii

SuperFlakeman

Yeah casual games may support them, may. Do you think casuals will even be encouraged to buy Wii U yet though? Just to play games the same way they do on their Wii? The rest of us will buy it just because its new. Motion control in games like Wii Sports stole them this gen, I think it will be social apps running on the tablet that they hope will steal them this time. Not more waggle.

You are out of touch with reality.

Well tbh it's software based, but I'm certain Nintendo has nailed it. Wii Pictionary = print moneys

For a moist slice of reality pie you should take a look at how popular tablets and social connectivity is becomming, then take another look at the controller. I could be wrong but I'm just putting two and two together. Trust me if a Wiimote isn't bundled it won't be taken anywhere near as seriously as Dual Analogue. Nintendo has become a here and now company and the Wiimote is on its deathbed.
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#205 yoshi_64
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Interesting, this is making the wait for E3 even more exciting. I want to play it now! When I do get my hands on it, I will be sure to let you know what I think! I found the tablet very light and easy to hold last year, and the thing was not even that heavy, despite the big brick on the back that was tethering it to the wall.
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#206 Timbury
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Interesting, this is making the wait for E3 even more exciting. I want to play it now! When I do get my hands on it, I will be sure to let you know what I think! I found the tablet very light and easy to hold last year, and the thing was not even that heavy, despite the big brick on the back that was tethering it to the wall. yoshi_64
That's good to hear about the weight just look at the WiiU controller and think about holding my iPad up for extended periods.
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#207 Kaze_no_Mirai
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[QUOTE="Timbury"]Just wondering what the weight of that thing is going to be? I'm not going to condemn it to I have seen more of it in action, it really doesn't make me want to pick it up and play with it.Haziqonfire
Based on what people said last year, it's fairly light. Really want to get my hands on one though.

I could believe that. The Vita looks like a heavy machine, but it is very light. It's surprising.
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#209 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Yeah casual games may support them, may. Do you think casuals will even be encouraged to buy Wii U yet though? Just to play games the same way they do on their Wii? The rest of us will buy it just because its new. Motion control in games like Wii Sports stole them this gen, I think it will be social apps running on the tablet that they hope will steal them this time. Not more waggle. tomarlyn

You are out of touch with reality.

Well tbh it's software based, but I'm certain Nintendo has nailed it. Wii Pictionary = print moneys

For a moist slice of reality pie you should take a look at how popular tablets and social connectivity is becomming, then take another look at the controller. I could be wrong but I'm just putting two and two together. Trust me if a Wiimote isn't bundled it won't be taken anywhere near as seriously as Dual Analogue. Nintendo has become a here and now company and the Wiimote is on its deathbed.

Wiimote is strongly supported for the system :? Whats wrong with bundling a WM+?
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#211 taterfrickintot
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controller actually looks pretty good to me now.

but what i want from nintendo is good online support and proper hardware for proper graphics.

i dont see at least one of those happening :(

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#212 taterfrickintot
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controller actually looks pretty good to me now.

but what i want from nintendo is good online support and proper hardware for proper graphics.

i dont see at least one of those happening :(

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#213 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Yeah casual games may support them, may. Do you think casuals will even be encouraged to buy Wii U yet though? Just to play games the same way they do on their Wii? The rest of us will buy it just because its new. Motion control in games like Wii Sports stole them this gen, I think it will be social apps running on the tablet that they hope will steal them this time. Not more waggle. tomarlyn

You are out of touch with reality.

Well tbh it's software based, but I'm certain Nintendo has nailed it. Wii Pictionary = print moneys

For a moist slice of reality pie you should take a look at how popular tablets and social connectivity is becomming, then take another look at the controller. I could be wrong but I'm just putting two and two together. Trust me if a Wiimote isn't bundled it won't be taken anywhere near as seriously as Dual Analogue. Nintendo has become a here and now company and the Wiimote is on its deathbed.

Who said the Wiimote will be taken "as seriously as dual analog" I said it'll be in play next gen because it's still needed for some games like bowling/tennis, wm+ in Zelda HD and of course for local multiplayer.

Most Nintendo games will be tablet based ofc.

I said your're out of touch with reality because you think it's all gonna be F-Zero, Metroid, Zelda, 3D Mario, StarFox and sht, nope, there will be a ton of focus on Mii stuff aswell for the expanded audience. Wii U sports, animal crossing mmo, wii pictionary, wii fit 2/vitality sensor, nsmb mii with "shtty graphics" and mii integration, etc.

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#214 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

You are out of touch with reality.

Well tbh it's software based, but I'm certain Nintendo has nailed it. Wii Pictionary = print moneys

LastRambo341
For a moist slice of reality pie you should take a look at how popular tablets and social connectivity is becomming, then take another look at the controller. I could be wrong but I'm just putting two and two together. Trust me if a Wiimote isn't bundled it won't be taken anywhere near as seriously as Dual Analogue. Nintendo has become a here and now company and the Wiimote is on its deathbed.

Wiimote is strongly supported for the system :? Whats wrong with bundling a WM+?

More cost.
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#215 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

You are out of touch with reality.

Well tbh it's software based, but I'm certain Nintendo has nailed it. Wii Pictionary = print moneys

SuperFlakeman

For a moist slice of reality pie you should take a look at how popular tablets and social connectivity is becomming, then take another look at the controller. I could be wrong but I'm just putting two and two together. Trust me if a Wiimote isn't bundled it won't be taken anywhere near as seriously as Dual Analogue. Nintendo has become a here and now company and the Wiimote is on its deathbed.

Who said the Wiimote will be taken "as seriously as dual analog" I said it'll be in play next gen because it's still needed for some games like bowling/tennis, wm+ in Zelda HD and of course for local multiplayer.

Most Nintendo games will be tablet based ofc.

I said your're out of touch with reality because you think it's all gonna be F-Zero, Metroid, Zelda, 3D Mario, StarFox and sht, nope, there will be a ton of focus on Mii stuff aswell for the expanded audience. Wii U sports, animal crossing mmo, wii pictionary, wii fit 2/vitality sensor, nsmb mii with "shtty graphics" and mii integration, etc.

I didn't say that's all its going to be, I just said its very unlikely you will see much support for the Wiimote if its an accessory IMO. Its on its way out otherwise we wouldn't have the tablet at all, but an improved Wiimote/Nunchuck combo instead and I'm glad they're not doing that.
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#216 SuperFlakeman
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I didn't say that's all its going to be, I just said its very unlikely you will see much support for the Wiimote if its an accessory IMO. Its on its way out otherwise we wouldn't have the tablet at all, but an improved Wiimote/Nunchuck combo instead and I'm glad they're not doing that.tomarlyn

Wow you just don't get it man.

The only game leak we have so far is Rayman Legends, and that game requires Wiimotes for multiplayer, which is a huge deal for that game.

Aonuma has heavily hinted that Zelda HD will be wm+ exlusive. Z E L D A H D

~

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#217 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]I didn't say that's all its going to be, I just said its very unlikely you will see much support for the Wiimote if its an accessory IMO. Its on its way out otherwise we wouldn't have the tablet at all, but an improved Wiimote/Nunchuck combo instead and I'm glad they're not doing that.SuperFlakeman

Wow you just don't get it man.

The only game leak we have so far is Rayman Legends, and that game requires Wiimotes for multiplayer, which is a huge deal for that game.

Aonuma has heavily hinted that Zelda HD will be wm+ exlusive. Z E L D A H D

~

Aonuma is incharge of Zelda Wii U? Miyamoto said that he was handling Zelda Wii U personally.

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#218 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]I didn't say that's all its going to be, I just said its very unlikely you will see much support for the Wiimote if its an accessory IMO. Its on its way out otherwise we wouldn't have the tablet at all, but an improved Wiimote/Nunchuck combo instead and I'm glad they're not doing that.Nintendo_Ownes7

Wow you just don't get it man.

The only game leak we have so far is Rayman Legends, and that game requires Wiimotes for multiplayer, which is a huge deal for that game.

Aonuma has heavily hinted that Zelda HD will be wm+ exlusive. Z E L D A H D

~

Aonuma is incharge of Zelda Wii U? Miyamoto said that he was handling Zelda Wii U personally.

Is that a counter?

You should know that it was Miyamoto who championed for WM+ in the first place, while Aonuma was sceptical.

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#219 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]I didn't say that's all its going to be, I just said its very unlikely you will see much support for the Wiimote if its an accessory IMO. Its on its way out otherwise we wouldn't have the tablet at all, but an improved Wiimote/Nunchuck combo instead and I'm glad they're not doing that.SuperFlakeman

Wow you just don't get it man.

The only game leak we have so far is Rayman Legends, and that game requires Wiimotes for multiplayer, which is a huge deal for that game.

Aonuma has heavily hinted that Zelda HD will be wm+ exlusive. Z E L D A H D

~

Cool, but you're going to need more than that to convince me :P
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#220 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]I didn't say that's all its going to be, I just said its very unlikely you will see much support for the Wiimote if its an accessory IMO. Its on its way out otherwise we wouldn't have the tablet at all, but an improved Wiimote/Nunchuck combo instead and I'm glad they're not doing that.tomarlyn

Wow you just don't get it man.

The only game leak we have so far is Rayman Legends, and that game requires Wiimotes for multiplayer, which is a huge deal for that game.

Aonuma has heavily hinted that Zelda HD will be wm+ exlusive. Z E L D A H D

~

Cool, but you're going to need more than that to convince me :P

Convice you of what, exactly? I haven't proposed anything outside of what I said. Those two alone solidifies that the Wiimote is very much in play, to what extent we don't know yet.

I have another one for you. They showed Wiimote gameplay in the very first Wii U reel, you need it to play golf in Wii U Sports.

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#221 umcommon
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controller actually looks pretty good to me now.

but what i want from nintendo is good online support and proper hardware for proper graphics.

i dont see at least one of those happening :(

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We know multiple devs are happy with the system's hardware capabilities, and that Ghost Recon Online will be a release game.
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#222 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

Wow you just don't get it man.

The only game leak we have so far is Rayman Legends, and that game requires Wiimotes for multiplayer, which is a huge deal for that game.

Aonuma has heavily hinted that Zelda HD will be wm+ exlusive. Z E L D A H D

~

SuperFlakeman

Cool, but you're going to need more than that to convince me :P

Convice you of what, exactly? I haven't proposed anything outside of what I said. Those two alone solidifies that the Wiimote is very much in play, to what extent we don't know yet.

I have another one for you. They showed Wiimote gameplay in the very first Wii U reel, you need it to play golf in Wii U Sports.

I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me but if its that the Wimmote is only along for the ride in a handfull of games then we agree.
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Words cannot describe how uncomfortable that looks.
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#224 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Cool, but you're going to need more than that to convince me :Ptomarlyn

Convice you of what, exactly? I haven't proposed anything outside of what I said. Those two alone solidifies that the Wiimote is very much in play, to what extent we don't know yet.

I have another one for you. They showed Wiimote gameplay in the very first Wii U reel, you need it to play golf in Wii U Sports.

I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me but if its that the Wimmote is only along for the ride in a handfull of games then we agree.

I think both controllers would be used for all games
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#225 LastRambo341
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Words cannot describe how uncomfortable that looks. Ninja-Hippo
Looks...Ok. How about "feels"?
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#226 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Cool, but you're going to need more than that to convince me :Ptomarlyn

Convice you of what, exactly? I haven't proposed anything outside of what I said. Those two alone solidifies that the Wiimote is very much in play, to what extent we don't know yet.

I have another one for you. They showed Wiimote gameplay in the very first Wii U reel, you need it to play golf in Wii U Sports.

I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me but if its that the Wimmote is only along for the ride in a handfull of games then we agree.

We don't know to what extent other than that it is relevant next gen.

I expect it to be used alot. You need Wiimotes for local MP and that's huge for games like Mario Party, NSMB Mii, Mario Kart Wii with its Wii Wheel, Smash Bros 4.

For the OMG HARDCORE FZERO STARFOX METROID NINTENDO IS BACK BABY = uPad. Core games that are SP focused will mainly use the uPad, unless it's Zelda where wm+ is a better fit. I think that's where your ignorance stems from, you only care about this part of the spectrum.

3rd party games will obviously only use the uPad because their games are SP or online MP, not local MP, and all they will do is port the PS3/360 experience which practically demands the dual analog setup.

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#227 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Words cannot describe how uncomfortable that looks. LastRambo341
Looks...Ok. How about "feels"?

Question is, can you hold it for hours on end like you would a classic controller?

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#228 umcommon
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You need Wiimotes for local MP SuperFlakeman

As much as I like the Wii remote for certain games, I hope it isn't a "need". There are many games I can think of where I'd much rather have the ability to use at the very least two tablets for local multiplayer.

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#229 Gue1
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the only thing they need to do now is remove the screen and I'm sold.

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#230 pickleman999
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Controller is going to be so clunky, I can already see it.
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#231 wewantdoom4now
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Let me know when the nes,snes,n64 era nintendo is back.

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#232 wewantdoom4now
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LOL @ e3 1996 nintendo bragging about n64 having the best graphics what happened to you nintendo?

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#233 LastRambo341
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the only thing they need to do now is remove the screen and I'm sold.

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#234 TilxWLOC
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...what I want from Nintendo is... proper hardware for proper graphics...

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This is the mindset I have a problem with in gamers, "proper graphics"? How about good hardware for more freedom to create? Imagine what Nintendo could do to their action/adventure games, like Metroid and Zelda, with enough power. Imagine what new tricks and physics Mario could deal with-- but nope, graphics.

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#235 GameboyTroy
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Here's a model comparison for it in different angles.

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#236 runbleduck
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That's the best Nintendo could do given the entire year? They're nearly identical! The revised one looks bigger and bulkier as well and still fail to address the cheap lousy single touch resistive screen that requires the controller to be held with one hand and stylus with the other. It's was miserable enough playing kid icarus on the 3ds, just imagine how much more miserable it's gonna be with the 3ds replaced by a giant bulky controller.
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#237 runbleduck
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The analog stick doesn't have the octagon gate around it this time. This basically makes the Wii U controller analog sticks the first 'true' analog sticks Nintendo has ever had, with full 360 degrees movement, and L3/R3 functionality.charizard1605
Nintendo copying Sony. Finally took them long enough to admit that Sony was right with their true 360 degree analog sticks and clickable ones.
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#238 KBFloYd
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]The analog stick doesn't have the octagon gate around it this time. This basically makes the Wii U controller analog sticks the first 'true' analog sticks Nintendo has ever had, with full 360 degrees movement, and L3/R3 functionality.runbleduck
Nintendo copying Sony. Finally took them long enough to admit that Sony was right with their true 360 degree analog sticks and clickable ones.

thats ok..we actually invented the analog stick...sony liked it so much they put 2 on their controllers.

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#239 Zaibach
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Its just a contoller people, calm the fvck down!

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#240 GunSmith1_basic
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That's the best Nintendo could do given the entire year? They're nearly identical! The revised one looks bigger and bulkier as well and still fail to address the cheap lousy single touch resistive screen that requires the controller to be held with one hand and stylus with the other. It's was miserable enough playing kid icarus on the 3ds, just imagine how much more miserable it's gonna be with the 3ds replaced by a giant bulky controller. runbleduck
Wow you talk like the Wii U controller was a bad thing when it first came out. The truth is that almost all analysts loved the controller and most people accept the resistive touch screen as a way to keep the costs down. Since the games will still be mainly on the TV screen and will be supplemented by the touch screen I think it is the right call. So no, the Wii U is similar but not completely similar to the DS in that way. I agree that it seems strange that it apparantly got a little bigger than it was before but it doesn't look that much different. The WiiU controller will always be bulky, which is PREFERABLE because that's what allows the innovative touch screen to exist, and besides everyone who's tried it says that the bulk is hardly noticable.

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#241 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="runbleduck"]That's the best Nintendo could do given the entire year? They're nearly identical! The revised one looks bigger and bulkier as well and still fail to address the cheap lousy single touch resistive screen that requires the controller to be held with one hand and stylus with the other. It's was miserable enough playing kid icarus on the 3ds, just imagine how much more miserable it's gonna be with the 3ds replaced by a giant bulky controller. GunSmith1_basic

Wow you talk like the Wii U controller was a bad thing when it first came out. The truth is that almost all analysts loved the controller and most people accept the resistive touch screen as a way to keep the costs down. Since the games will still be mainly on the TV screen and will be supplemented by the touch screen I think it is the right call. So no, the Wii U is similar but not completely similar to the DS in that way. I agree that it seems strange that it apparantly got a little bigger than it was before but it doesn't look that much different. The WiiU controller will always be bulky, which is PREFERABLE because that's what allows the innovative touch screen to exist, and besides everyone who's tried it says that the bulk is hardly noticable.

It got wider but it also looks like it got smaller in other places.

It looks about an inch wider and then from top to bottom it looks smaller.

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#242 ShadowMoses900
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Is it seriously going to be that large? I don't know about this....

Too bad they don't do the same thing with the 3DS, it needs better controls my God. The thing is unplayable.

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#243 Rayne718
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I swear that touch screen BETTER be capacitive and smooth as butter like the iPad. It's 2012, there is no excuse for it to be using a resistive touch screen. Especially on a screen that big, it will be a nightmare.

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#244 LastRambo341
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Is it seriously going to be that large? I don't know about this....

Too bad they don't do the same thing with the 3DS, it needs better controls my God. The thing is unplayable.

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I dunno man....Vita is really unplayable
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#245 LastRambo341
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I swear that touch screen BETTER be capacitive and smooth as butter like the iPad. It's 2012, there is no excuse for it to be using a resistive touch screen. Especially on a screen that big, it will be a nightmare.

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Nah sorry, its resistive. Its for the low costs, sorry.
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#246 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

You need Wiimotes for local MP umcommon

As much as I like the Wii remote for certain games, I hope it isn't a "need". There are many games I can think of where I'd much rather have the ability to use at the very least two tablets for local multiplayer.

Steering your kart by turning the tablet like a wheel, with a map or rear view mirror right there in front of on its screen as well would be a great novelty.
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#247 tomarlyn
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Its just a contoller people, calm the fvck down!

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Nay, for it is not mearly a controller. It is a philosphy :o
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#248 GamerwillzPS
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I can't see why many people are excited over this thing. :|

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#249 GameboyTroy
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Rumor: Employee Responsible for Leaking Wii U Controller Photo Fired, May Face Litigation

Nintendo doesn't mess around when people leak stuff they'd rather save for E3. According to Erlend Wollan, a system development consultant for several platforms, the employee who posted up the photo of his dev kit Wii U controller has been fired and may face a suit in court. Some secrets are best kept to yourself, especially in a business that takes information leakage very seriously!

"Dev at Traveller's Tales who leaked updated WiiU controller (now with sticks!) already fired and may be taken to court. Respect NDA's folks."

http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/comments/rumor-employee-responsible-for-leaking-wii-u-controller-photo-fired?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Wow!! This guy is in trouble.

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#250 haziqonfire
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^^ That man is going to have a hard time finding another job in the industry if true.