Rumour: The Xbox One is getting an upgrade GPU and RAM?

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#51 GD-1369211121
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Not possible. Too close to release for such a hardware change. I'm sure they already have systems manufactured and ready to go. Such a change would force them to raise the price of the system as well.

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#52 Vari3ty
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With less than 5 months until launch? Doubt it. 

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Can some1 tell me why the f*ck would anyone release a console with 12gb of ram!? PC is far needing this and a console does? INVEST THE ADDITIONAL MONEY ON A BETTER GPU, dumbasses...
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12 gigs is not needed, most games on PC don't even need anywhere near that much.
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#56 mprince131
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Anything is possible. As noted Xbox 360 had a late upgrade in ram. In fact, if you remember the console only began production 69 days before launch. But I would say this rumor is not probable.

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#57 inggrish
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As a lot of people have aready said, this close to console launch it's not possible to change the hardware without losing a lot of money and likely even pushing the release date back. The most they ould probably do is raise the clock speed of the GPU or CPU a bit, but even with that, it would require a lot of testing with heating conditions etc... At this point it would just not be worth it to anyone.

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#58 inggrish
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12 gigs is not needed, most games on PC don't even need anywhere near that much.TheWalkingGhost

 

I would wonder why on Earth a console would need 12GB, what are they going to do with that? Load the entire game into memory at once?!

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Dat sweat.

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#60 ShoulderOfOrion
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Xbox 360 had its ram doubled at the last minute. It's not outside the realm of possibility.
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]12 gigs is not needed, most games on PC don't even need anywhere near that much._Matt_

 

I would wonder why on Earth a console would need 12GB, what are they going to do with that? Load the entire game into memory at once?!

Does give plenty of room to grow and lessens the need to release a new console in 5 to 6 years. Anyway, why does your rig need 12 gigs?
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#62 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

like you arent a joke :lol:

XBOunity

I'm not the one with an XBone T-shirt avatar :lol:

no but you have a chick as your avatar, how fitting :lol:

that's the closes virgin basement dweller cows get to a woman :cool:
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#63 xmanfan91
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[QUOTE="EYE-OF-HORUS999"]

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

All this backpedaling...

Good grief, MS.

Sagem28

 

Their backpedaling and 180ing may actually make me get their console, still getting the PS4 first but I may get BOTH when they first come out.

I'm not even a M$ fanboy but keep up the good work M$.

I'm sure you made a great post, but that ass in your sig keeps distracting me from reading it.

 

LMAO!

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#64 inggrish
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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]12 gigs is not needed, most games on PC don't even need anywhere near that much.TheWalkingGhost

 

I would wonder why on Earth a console would need 12GB, what are they going to do with that? Load the entire game into memory at once?!

Does give plenty of room to grow and lessens the need to release a new console in 5 to 6 years. Anyway, why does your rig need 12 gigs?

 

I need more than 12 gigs in my rig, try having 6 8k textures open in Photoshop, UDK open, 3DS Max Open, and a Mudbox file open with millions of polys and THEN tell me I wouldn't need 12GB. 

 

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#65 super600  Moderator
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This rumor is fake unless they upgraded the xbox one's hardware before they started the manufacturing process.

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#66 TheWalkingGhost
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="_Matt_"]

 

I would wonder why on Earth a console would need 12GB, what are they going to do with that? Load the entire game into memory at once?!

_Matt_

Does give plenty of room to grow and lessens the need to release a new console in 5 to 6 years. Anyway, why does your rig need 12 gigs?

 

I need more than 12 gigs in my rig, try having 6 8k textures open in Photoshop, UDK open, 3DS Max Open, and a Mudbox file open with millions of polys and THEN tell me I wouldn't need 12GB. 

 

Somebody is mad....:lol: Relax man.
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#67 bigbaldwolf86
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I know nothing of how long it takes them to make these consoles but surely with only 4 months before launch it's too late to upgrade anything inside the console? I might be wrong but it seems veery late in the day to be making changes like this. I don't think it's true but you never know.

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#68 inggrish
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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] Does give plenty of room to grow and lessens the need to release a new console in 5 to 6 years. Anyway, why does your rig need 12 gigs?TheWalkingGhost

 

I need more than 12 gigs in my rig, try having 6 8k textures open in Photoshop, UDK open, 3DS Max Open, and a Mudbox file open with millions of polys and THEN tell me I wouldn't need 12GB. 

 

Somebody is mad....:lol: Relax man.

 

Life's too short to get mad. You asked a question and I answered. :)

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Ehhh, I doubt it without sources, but I could see a RAM bump.  Their 3 OSes put them in a real deficit compared the competition in available RAM, and that's without getting into the menmory bandwith.  Sure, it'd be really expensive to do this late, but I bet it's also cheaper to do than a price cut, and could be used as a talking point to justify that sticker price.

 

Paying with clockspeeds this close to launch seems borderline irresponsible.  If they try, it tells me they are really afraid of their box getting outclassed by the competition... and sooner rather than later.  Scared enough to risk another billion dollar hardware fiasco.

 

Bottom line is there are a lot of system engineers that should be looking for a job after this mess.  Mattrick was lucky to get a cushy job while he could.

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#70 Tessellation
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This rumor is fake unless they upgraded the xbox one's hardware before they started the manufacturing process.

super600
upclock's are possible.. that is going to happen? i doubt it and ram increase is not impossible either their dev kits support 16GB modules already.
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="_Matt_"]

 

I need more than 12 gigs in my rig, try having 6 8k textures open in Photoshop, UDK open, 3DS Max Open, and a Mudbox file open with millions of polys and THEN tell me I wouldn't need 12GB. 

 

_Matt_

Somebody is mad....:lol: Relax man.

 

Life's too short to get mad. You asked a question and I answered. :)

In a rather defensive manner. ;)
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It's a cute rumor. Won't happen, a ton of people on here have already outlined why that would be.

 

For the person who stated that 360 had its RAM doubled last minute, understand that Xenon dev-kits already had 512 RAM, all MS did was make the dev kit allotment the retail manufacturing spec. And they did it because Epic strong-armed them into it, and even then Epic originally wanted 1 gig of ram, not 512.

Later Xenon dev kits ended up shipping with 1GB of RAM for development purposes.

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#73 commander
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]I'm not the one with an XBone T-shirt avatar :lol:I_can_haz

no but you have a chick as your avatar, how fitting :lol:

 If that was supposed to be a jab at me you're failing hard.

So you aren't a girl?
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#74 XBOunity
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Ehhh, I doubt it without sources, but I could see a RAM bump.  Their 3 OSes put them in a real deficit compared the competition in available RAM, and that's without getting into the menmory bandwith.  Sure, it'd be really expensive to do this late, but I bet it's also cheaper to do than a price cut, and could be used as a talking point to justify that sticker price.

 

Paying with clockspeeds this close to launch seems borderline irresponsible.  If they try, it tells me they are really afraid of their box getting outclassed by the competition... and sooner rather than later.  Scared enough to risk another billion dollar hardware fiasco.

 

Bottom line is there are a lot of system engineers that should be looking for a job after this mess.  Mattrick was lucky to get a cushy job while he could.

santoron

I think that is overstating it a bit much, the Xbox One in its current state is a more than capable machine.   Is it on par with the PS4 graphically?   No, but the difference isnt going to be a dealbreaker in my opinion.    I doubt an overclock, maybe a 50 clock uptick if anything, but doubt it, and the ram definitely not happening.    Im sure 5 gigs will be enough for next gen, i really dont see that getting exceeded in 95 percent of the games.   The Xbox one has other advantages other than hardware to make it a desired item.   The only problem is the price, which I predict will come in line with PS4.     I think many on this forum and elsewhere are way ahead of themselves deeming the XBO a failure at such an early stage.   

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#75 XBOunity
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

no but you have a chick as your avatar, how fitting :lol:

evildead6789

 If that was supposed to be a jab at me you're failing hard.

So you aren't a girl?

i guess he is a chick :lol:

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#76 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

no but you have a chick as your avatar, how fitting :lol:

evildead6789

If that was supposed to be a jab at me you're failing hard.

So you aren't a girl?

It's pretty normal that people with girls in their sig are females.
Look at me, for example.


Now, don't hit on me you silly boys. :oops:

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pff lol

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#78 bigbaldwolf86
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It's a cute rumor. Won't happen, a ton of people on here have already outlined why that would be.

 

For the person who stated that 360 had its RAM doubled last minute, understand that Xenon dev-kits already had 512 RAM, all MS did was make the dev kit allotment the retail manufacturing spec. And they did it because Epic strong-armed them into it, and even then Epic originally wanted 1 gig of ram, not 512.

Later Xenon dev kits ended up shipping with 1GB of RAM for development purposes.

Shensolidus

Didn't they have like over a year before the console released as well? That might not be true but I'm sure MS had a lot more time to change the specs with the 360.

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#79 II_Seraphim_II
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wtf is MS doing? its like they are completely lost and just making up the console as they go lol.
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[QUOTE="evildead6789"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"] If that was supposed to be a jab at me you're failing hard.XBOunity

So you aren't a girl?

i guess he is a chick :lol:

:roll: everybody with a girl in their avatar is automatically a girl. Man, you lems are dumbasses.
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#81 inggrish
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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]Somebody is mad....:lol: Relax man.TheWalkingGhost

 

Life's too short to get mad. You asked a question and I answered. :)

In a rather defensive manner. ;)

 

Apologies if it came off that way sir, was not intended.

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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

no but you have a chick as your avatar, how fitting :lol:

evildead6789
 If that was supposed to be a jab at me you're failing hard.

So you aren't a girl?

:P If girls can be 6'6" with hairy arms and chests then I'm a girl. :oops: Don't hit on me boys.
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#83 always_explicit
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In my opinion what they should be doing right now is getting rid of the kinect in order to lower the price of the console

Raziel831991
Why would they remove one of the few elements of the console that makes them different from the competition??? The kinect 2.0 is the awesome piece of tech the original kinect should have been. It remains to be seen how it will impact next gen but to remove it just because some people dont think its useful is silly. Its integrated with every console for a reason, its going to be integral to next gen.
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[QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

In my opinion what they should be doing right now is getting rid of the kinect in order to lower the price of the console

always_explicit

Why would they remove one of the few elements of the console that makes them different from the competition??? The kinect 2.0 is the awesome piece of tech the original kinect should have been. It remains to be seen how it will impact next gen but to remove it just because some people dont think its useful is silly. Its integrated with every console for a reason, its going to be integral to next gen.

It should be removed because people like to have different choices, the fact they are forcing the kinect on you is bs. And the fact is there are many people who dont give sh*t about the kinect.

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#85 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

In my opinion what they should be doing right now is getting rid of the kinect in order to lower the price of the console

always_explicit
Why would they remove one of the few elements of the console that makes them different from the competition??? The kinect 2.0 is the awesome piece of tech the original kinect should have been. It remains to be seen how it will impact next gen but to remove it just because some people dont think its useful is silly. Its integrated with every console for a reason, its going to be integral to next gen.

You see but the thing is its not just "some people". Its the overwhelming majority. What you just said is like saying "why remove DRM? Its what makes it different from the other consoles and to remove it just cause some people dont think its useful is just silly." lol.
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600$ :P
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="_Matt_"]

 

Life's too short to get mad. You asked a question and I answered. :)

_Matt_

In a rather defensive manner. ;)

 

Apologies if it came off that way sir, was not intended.

It's cool. Maybe I misread.
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[QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

In my opinion what they should be doing right now is getting rid of the kinect in order to lower the price of the console

II_Seraphim_II

Why would they remove one of the few elements of the console that makes them different from the competition??? The kinect 2.0 is the awesome piece of tech the original kinect should have been. It remains to be seen how it will impact next gen but to remove it just because some people dont think its useful is silly. Its integrated with every console for a reason, its going to be integral to next gen.

You see but the thing is its not just "some people". Its the overwhelming majority. What you just said is like saying "why remove DRM? Its what makes it different from the other consoles and to remove it just cause some people dont think its useful is just silly." lol.

How do you come to the conculusion that it is the overwhelming majority? Even if everyone on here hated Kinect being included, which isn't the case anyway, it wouldn't be the overwhelming majority. Remember, Kinect is the reasons for 360 resurgance in many markets on top of the fact that 24+ million have bought one. Remember these forums are only a tiny fraction of the population. People tend to feel so strongly against kinect because knee jerk reactions are a thing of the interwebs. 

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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="evildead6789"] So you aren't a girl?I_can_haz

i guess he is a chick :lol:

:roll: everybody with a girl in their avatar is automatically a girl. Man, you lems are dumbasses.

Or just 8 years old.
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#90 always_explicit
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[QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

In my opinion what they should be doing right now is getting rid of the kinect in order to lower the price of the console

II_Seraphim_II
Why would they remove one of the few elements of the console that makes them different from the competition??? The kinect 2.0 is the awesome piece of tech the original kinect should have been. It remains to be seen how it will impact next gen but to remove it just because some people dont think its useful is silly. Its integrated with every console for a reason, its going to be integral to next gen.

You see but the thing is its not just "some people". Its the overwhelming majority. What you just said is like saying "why remove DRM? Its what makes it different from the other consoles and to remove it just cause some people dont think its useful is just silly." lol.

But the console was built with kinect as an integral part of the console, the console is designed to operate with kinect functionality. Its not a "feature" that MS want to be adopted or left on the shelf...its part of the console for a reason, because they obviously view it to be as important as the console itself. If you dont like the integral component of the console the X1 is obviously not the console for you, its a simple as that. MS has included it as standard so developers KNOW that their entire fanbase has kinect functionality, in theory this means no more half baked kinect games and the ability to actually utilise it in a meaningful way. Im not trying to persuade anyone to love it but to remove it when its a focal point of the whole unit is beyond silly. Also this "overwhelming majority" are only those who are vocal about their dislike of the kinect on gaming forums, which is a minority in comparison to overall gamers.
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#91 tdkmillsy
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Its just one of the options they will be weighing up. Sony got lucky with the increase in GDDR5 memory, Microsoft didn't expect they would get it in on budget. Its technically inferior to PS4 in some respects, they either compete by upping what they got or drop the price (but keep Kinect included). The priority is to get it out this year and although its pretty simple to increase the RAM or even overclock I'd be hoping for a price drop to the same price as the PS4 with a big push on what can be done with Kinect to differentiate it from the competition. They could clean up if they can cater for hard-core gamers and the family.
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#92 bigbaldwolf86
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="always_explicit"] Why would they remove one of the few elements of the console that makes them different from the competition??? The kinect 2.0 is the awesome piece of tech the original kinect should have been. It remains to be seen how it will impact next gen but to remove it just because some people dont think its useful is silly. Its integrated with every console for a reason, its going to be integral to next gen.mprince131

You see but the thing is its not just "some people". Its the overwhelming majority. What you just said is like saying "why remove DRM? Its what makes it different from the other consoles and to remove it just cause some people dont think its useful is just silly." lol.

How do you come to the conculusion that it is the overwhelming majority? Even if everyone on here hated Kinect being included, which isn't the case anyway, it wouldn't be the overwhelming majority. Remember, Kinect is the reasons for 360 resurgance in many markets on top of the fact that 24+ million have bought one. Remember these forums are only a tiny fraction of the population. People tend to feel so strongly against kinect because knee jerk reactions are a thing of the interwebs. 

To be fair. 24 million sales don't mean that all of those people liked Kinect either. I bought it and it quickly became an ornament. A lot of people don't like it or don't want to try it because of how poorly the current one was used, supported etc. The main issue with Kinect seems to be that it's pushing the price up above the PS4 and that's a deal breaker. If MS had not made in mandatory and given people the freedom to choose by releasing 2 bundles they could have made a lot of people happier.

I know they want Kinect as standard so that devs know everyone has one and can develop for it but we risk having it shoe horned onto so many games that don't necessarily need it. I don't want to shout orders for troops at my TV and I don't want to jump around like an idiot. I just want my console and my controller.

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#93 always_explicit
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[QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

In my opinion what they should be doing right now is getting rid of the kinect in order to lower the price of the console

Raziel831991

Why would they remove one of the few elements of the console that makes them different from the competition??? The kinect 2.0 is the awesome piece of tech the original kinect should have been. It remains to be seen how it will impact next gen but to remove it just because some people dont think its useful is silly. Its integrated with every console for a reason, its going to be integral to next gen.

It should be removed because people like to have different choices, the fact they are forcing the kinect on you is bs. And the fact is there are many people who dont give sh*t about the kinect.

If you want the ability to pick and choose the components of your gaming hardware I suggest you buy a PC. They are not forcing anything on you, to suggest they are wreaks of self entitlement. If you dont like it vote with your money, but to say that a product should be changed just because you dont like it makes no real sense at all.
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#94 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="always_explicit"] Why would they remove one of the few elements of the console that makes them different from the competition??? The kinect 2.0 is the awesome piece of tech the original kinect should have been. It remains to be seen how it will impact next gen but to remove it just because some people dont think its useful is silly. Its integrated with every console for a reason, its going to be integral to next gen.always_explicit
You see but the thing is its not just "some people". Its the overwhelming majority. What you just said is like saying "why remove DRM? Its what makes it different from the other consoles and to remove it just cause some people dont think its useful is just silly." lol.

But the console was built with kinect as an integral part of the console, the console is designed to operate with kinect functionality. Its not a "feature" that MS want to be adopted or left on the shelf...its part of the console for a reason, because they obviously view it to be as important as the console itself. If you dont like the integral component of the console the X1 is obviously not the console for you, its a simple as that. MS has included it as standard so developers KNOW that their entire fanbase has kinect functionality, in theory this means no more half baked kinect games and the ability to actually utilise it in a meaningful way. Im not trying to persuade anyone to love it but to remove it when its a focal point of the whole unit is beyond silly. Also this "overwhelming majority" are only those who are vocal about their dislike of the kinect on gaming forums, which is a minority in comparison to overall gamers.

No it doesn't mean anything; one could argue that this would mean devs HAVE to intergrate the kinect into games one way or another, leading to half baked kinect funtionality.

 

Look at Kinect games sale, see what gamer gives a fvck about them? I see none.

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#95 Senor_Kami
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:lol: what a fvcking disaster of a console. 4 months from launch and they still don't know what to do.

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Sony still hasn't fixed the issues with the PS3 but that's awesome. MS fixes every potential problem with the X1 like 4 months before launch but it's considered a disaster. Cows say the darndest things.
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#96 always_explicit
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[QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] You see but the thing is its not just "some people". Its the overwhelming majority. What you just said is like saying "why remove DRM? Its what makes it different from the other consoles and to remove it just cause some people dont think its useful is just silly." lol.rjdofu

But the console was built with kinect as an integral part of the console, the console is designed to operate with kinect functionality. Its not a "feature" that MS want to be adopted or left on the shelf...its part of the console for a reason, because they obviously view it to be as important as the console itself. If you dont like the integral component of the console the X1 is obviously not the console for you, its a simple as that. MS has included it as standard so developers KNOW that their entire fanbase has kinect functionality, in theory this means no more half baked kinect games and the ability to actually utilise it in a meaningful way. Im not trying to persuade anyone to love it but to remove it when its a focal point of the whole unit is beyond silly. Also this "overwhelming majority" are only those who are vocal about their dislike of the kinect on gaming forums, which is a minority in comparison to overall gamers.

No it doesn't mean anything; one could argue that this would mean devs HAVE to intergrate the kinect into games one way or another, leading to half baked kinect funtionality.

 

Look at Kinect games sale, see what gamer gives a fvck about them? I see none.

Why would they have to...just because its included doesnt mean it needs to be used. Again im not trying to persuade anyone to like it...I didnt own the first one. However the 2.0 is obviously designed to be an important part of the XboxOne so to ask for it to be removed seems rash.
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12 gigs, kinda overkill for a console isn't it?
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#98 Raziel831991
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[QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

[QUOTE="always_explicit"] Why would they remove one of the few elements of the console that makes them different from the competition??? The kinect 2.0 is the awesome piece of tech the original kinect should have been. It remains to be seen how it will impact next gen but to remove it just because some people dont think its useful is silly. Its integrated with every console for a reason, its going to be integral to next gen.always_explicit

It should be removed because people like to have different choices, the fact they are forcing the kinect on you is bs. And the fact is there are many people who dont give sh*t about the kinect.

If you want the ability to pick and choose the components of your gaming hardware I suggest you buy a PC. They are not forcing anything on you, to suggest they are wreaks of self entitlement. If you dont like it vote with your money, but to say that a product should be changed just because you dont like it makes no real sense at all.

First Im sick of this whole "self entitlement bs". I am in fact entitled to state my opinion and my opinion is that the kinect is nothing more than a very expensive gimmick. The kinect was in fact the reason why the 360 was flooded with shovelware at the end of its lifecycle.

Anyway you say I should vote with my money and thats exactly what I will be doing by getting a ps4

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:lol: what a fvcking disaster of a console. 4 months from launch and they still don't know what to do.

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What damage control. you know if they implement changes, then your cow claims on hardware are sunk. So spin it as bad. I saw no problem with what E3 showed from either console.
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#100 always_explicit
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[QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

It should be removed because people like to have different choices, the fact they are forcing the kinect on you is bs. And the fact is there are many people who dont give sh*t about the kinect.

Raziel831991

If you want the ability to pick and choose the components of your gaming hardware I suggest you buy a PC. They are not forcing anything on you, to suggest they are wreaks of self entitlement. If you dont like it vote with your money, but to say that a product should be changed just because you dont like it makes no real sense at all.

First Im sick of this whole "self entitlement bs". I am in fact entitled to state my opinion and my opinion is that the kinect is nothing more than a very expensive gimmick. The kinect was in fact the reason why the 360 was flooded with shovelware at the end of its lifecycle.

Anyway you say I should vote with my money and thats exactly what I will be doing by getting a ps4

I never said you were not entitled to you opinion, but your opinion was that MS are "forcing the kinect on you". I was simply stating that nothing was being forced on you and offered the PC as a viable alternative if your concern is picking and choosing your hardware. No need to thank me :) You and the PS4 sound like your going to be very happy together :)