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lol at cow's design choice damage control for the order 1886Â :lol:
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The developer it self told people what they are aiming for dude and is not fildelity or graphics,they are targeting an experience like you get in movies,they are even emulating lents..:lol:
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if you're concerned about what looks better than other shit, might as well go with the best and thats pc gaming my friend.
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Find me a $399 one that beat the PS4 an i am there..
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Other wise take your over priced GPU and your full damage controll and GTFO..:lol:
I can't even stand 1080p nowadays. Once you go 1440p you don't go back.GhoXDepends on the game, Super Metroid is amazing in 480p.
Find me a $399 one that beat the PS4 an i am there..Do you get tired of making stupid arguments? Find me a PS4 that can do everything the same as a PC. Comparing the price of the two is utterly inane.Â
Other wise take your over priced GPU and your full damage controll and GTFO..:lol:
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Do you get tired of making stupid arguments? Find me a PS4 that can do everything the same as a PC. Comparing the price of the two is utterly inane.soulitane
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Oh please the PS4 is a damn PC with unified memory if MS would port windows to it,it will do anything your PC does,the same for the xbox one.
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How is comparing prices utterly insane.? Maybe to you who want to justify those over priced GPU,fact is you don't have a 78XX PC for $399.
[QUOTE="soulitane"]Do you get tired of making stupid arguments? Find me a PS4 that can do everything the same as a PC. Comparing the price of the two is utterly inane.tormentos
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Oh please the PS4 is a damn PC with unified memory if MS would port windows to it,it will do anything your PC does,the same for the xbox one.
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How is comparing prices utterly insane.? Maybe to you who want to justify those over priced GPU,fact is you don't have a 78XX PC for $399.
But yet the software can't do what a PC can do, they're entirely different machines due to this. Can I do my work on a PS4? Nope, can I make spreadsheets, edit videos or make music on a PS4? Nope. A PC is completely different to a PS4, so comparing the price isn't logical, since they're not built to do the same thing. On top of that, the price is different to everyone, for instance if someone has a pretty decent rig (ie quad core, decent amount of RAM etc) then all they'd need to buy to beat a PS4 is a GPU. There are a lot more variables involved with a PC that making a direct price comparisons redundant. Overpriced in what way? You want these companies to make a profit off of their R&D and hard work?[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]
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Ok my last topic was closed, but ill just leave this here. Looks like both systems are having a tough time with 1080p.
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Wow! You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this as fact. This is really really pathetic.
Indeed, wtf is this shit.
Some random dude posts a "IGN" comment, and lems are posting it as facts.
They are really drawing at straws here.Â
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Ok my last topic was closed, but ill just leave this here. Looks like both systems are having a tough time with 1080p.
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Random comment in IGN = true...:lol:
That screen has won some one a ban on Neogaf..:lol:
anonymous devs in edge magazine=True?isn't posting information from 'anonymous' devs from EDGE magazine in the same ballpark?delta3074
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Your damage control know no limits..
Since when you can compare a moron posting random sh** on a open board vs a site with sources reporting a news got from their sources...
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Our contacts have told us that memory reads on PS4 are 40-50 per cent quicker than Xbox One, and its ALU (Arithmetic Logic Unit) is around 50 per cent faster. One basic example we were given suggested that without optimisation for either console, a platform-agnostic development build can run at around 30FPS in 1920×1080 on PS4, but itll run at 20-something FPS in 1600×900 on Xbox One. Xbox One is weaker and its a pain to use its ESRAM, concluded one developer.
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Here is what Edge reported which cause you to go into an endless war about how John Carmack some how >> a guy from people can fly based on pass history.
Se how edge claimed that xbox one games were running at 900P.?
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Then after claming that Ryse was 1080p native a few days ago this land.
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Ryse is not 1080p but 900p....
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Does that number sound familiar.? How could have Edge guess the exact resolution of Ryse a few days before it was confirmed.?
The leak was valid games on xbox one are running on 900p confirmed,Ryse is one of those games,which make one think if the leak was actually Crytek which i think is also helping in Timesplitter rewind for PS4.
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anonymous devs in edge magazine=True?delta3074
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 What a severa case of damage control you have by now you just loss it,comparing a moron that could be even any of you on IGN claming stupid sh**,vs a site with credible sources that want to remain anonimous with good reasons since anything xbox one still under NDA.
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We have confirmed with sources that recently leaked tech specs are accurate. Though Durango devkits offer 8GB of DDR3 RAM, compared to Orbiss 4GB, Sonys GDDR5 solution is capable of moving data at 176 gigabytes per second, which should eliminate the sort of bottlenecks that hampered PS3 game performance. Importantly, weve learned that Sony has told developers that it is pushing for the final PS4 RAM to match up to Microsofts 8GB.
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Now before you continue to downplay edge sources,they were the first to confirm 8GB of GDDR5 on the PS4,before the PS4 ferbuary conference,and they never put a name to their source.
[QUOTE="delta3074"] isn't posting information from 'anonymous' devs from EDGE magazine in the same ballpark?tormentos
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Your damage control know no limits..
Since when you can compare a moron posting random sh** on a open board vs a site with sources reporting a news got from their sources...
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Our contacts have told us that memory reads on PS4 are 40-50 per cent quicker than Xbox One, and its ALU (Arithmetic Logic Unit) is around 50 per cent faster. One basic example we were given suggested that without optimisation for either console, a platform-agnostic development build can run at around 30FPS in 1920×1080 on PS4, but itll run at 20-something FPS in 1600×900 on Xbox One. Xbox One is weaker and its a pain to use its ESRAM, concluded one developer.
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Here is what Edge reported which cause you to go into an endless war about how John Carmack some how >> a guy from people can fly based on pass history.
Se how edge claimed that xbox one games were running at 900P.?
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Then after claming that Ryse was 1080p native a few days ago this land.
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Ryse is not 1080p but 900p....
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Does that number sound familiar.? How could have Edge guess the exact resolution of Ryse a few days before it was confirmed.?
The leak was valid games on xbox one are running on 900p confirmed,Ryse is one of those games,which make one think if the leak was actually Crytek which i think is also helping in Timesplitter rewind for PS4.
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but forza 5 is 1080p and 60fps, doesn't that debunk what these 'anonymous' devs said in Edge magazine? your problem is you cherry pick too much and you ignore Facts that don't fit with your argument. An 'anonymous dev' has the same level as credibility as an 'anonymous' poster on IGN whichever way you slice it. Anonymous = No credibility full stop. Besides, they never mention ryse in there article so where did you get the idea that they guessed ryse resolution?Now before you continue to downplay edge sources,they were the first to confirm 8GB of GDDR5 on the PS4,before the PS4 ferbuary conference,and they never put a name to their source.tormentosGetting it right once or twice= getting it right all the time? i don't think so mate.
But yet the software can't do what a PC can do, they're entirely different machines due to this. Can I do my work on a PS4? Nope, can I make spreadsheets, edit videos or make music on a PS4? Nope. A PC is completely different to a PS4, so comparing the price isn't logical, since they're not built to do the same thing. On top of that, the price is different to everyone, for instance if someone has a pretty decent rig (ie quad core, decent amount of RAM etc) then all they'd need to buy to beat a PS4 is a GPU. There are a lot more variables involved with a PC that making a direct price comparisons redundant. Overpriced in what way? You want these companies to make a profit off of their R&D and hard work? soulitane
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It can't do it because is not intended to run a PC OS period,there is little you could not do with the PS4 is it had windows on it,hell it would benefit from several things like dedicated hardware for recording like fraps style but without performance hit.
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You can edit video even on a damn cell phone dude,the Ps4 allows for that to..:lol:
Once again the only thing separating it is a PC,if apps are build for the PS4 to make music the PS4 can do it.
Fact is a complete PC with a GPU that beat the PS4 is way more than $399 and will not last you 7 years running games even less 8 years,play Crysis 3 on 7800GTX and tell me how it goes.
The Order=800p=design choice Ryse=900p=hardware limitations what if 900p was a design choice and not hardware limitations? People around here make too many baseless assumptions. And Ryse may not be a graphics king contender but it certainly doesn't have 'shit' graphics as some idiots on here like to claim And tormentos, quit with the same old tired argument 'show me a Pc that can do what a Ps4 can do for 399' My PC may not be able to render the same kind of Graphics but it was cheaper than a Ps4 and i can do a lot more things with it than you can do with a Ps4, your argument about Price is asanine as any PC can do more than the Ps4 can. The hyperbole on this forum has reached critical mass, somethings gonna break,loldelta3074
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Funny enough developers already explain what they are shooting for with The Order and they claimed that fidelity and graphics wasn't their north,but rather a cinematic experience,they are emulating how movie theaters cameras works and they want certain aspect ratio on their game,they claim it already and that game is not even close to launch.
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Ryse resolution was never confirmed in stone,then like a week a go some one claimed to be 1080p native like forza,a few days latter that same person from MS corret him self and stated the game is 900p,which by something strage it is the same resolution Edge leaked that xbox one games were running vs PS4 games 1080p games.
And this is causing you a severa damage control and immotional scaring...:lol:
also gotta love how The order 66 being 800p or whatever is = "a design choice" but ryse = "hardware limitations".[QUOTE="delta3074"]but forza 5 is 1080p and 60fps, doesn't that debunk what these 'anonymous' devs said in Edge magazine? your problem is you cherry pick too much and you ignore Facts that don't fit with your argument. An 'anonymous dev' has the same level as credibility as an 'anonymous' poster on IGN whichever way you slice it. Anonymous = No credibility full stop.sts106mat
his new sig about double standards is especially laughable considering the shit this guy comes out with daily.
I'm the last person to defend that fool. But the Order is running in full HD, just in a different aspect ratio, as you would get in a film. There is no upscaling or anything. If the black bars they are using for cinematic effect were rendered gameplay instead, the game would be 1080P. While Ryse is running full screen, just at a lower res that is then upscaled.also gotta love how The order 66 being 800p or whatever is = "a design choice" but ryse = "hardware limitations".[QUOTE="delta3074"]but forza 5 is 1080p and 60fps, doesn't that debunk what these 'anonymous' devs said in Edge magazine? your problem is you cherry pick too much and you ignore Facts that don't fit with your argument. An 'anonymous dev' has the same level as credibility as an 'anonymous' poster on IGN whichever way you slice it. Anonymous = No credibility full stop.sts106mat
his new sig about double standards is especially laughable considering the shit this guy comes out with daily.
Not to mention 1920x800p is more pixles then 1600x900p 1920x800p= 1536000 pixels 1600x900p= 1440000 pixelsi find it funny how he is insulting somebody who clearly knows more about what they are talking about in his sig, it's obvious Rov knows more than Eltormo, have you noticed how tormentos is always on the back foot in there debates:)delta3074
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Ron is an even bigger fanboy than you,he invent crappy info pulled from his a$$ and when you ask him for links he refuse to give any..
Now he claimed that the xbox one GPU was..
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hybrid between 7790 and 7800 is the lastest one based on info pulled from deep deep down his a$$.
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He make crappy comparisons that are a joke to downplay the PS4,like when he claim GDDR5 would be limited to 108GB/s because the 5870 is limited,how the fu** can that be when the GPU on the PS4 is not even close to that GPU or even from the same series,worse a developer already claimed to be getting 172GB/s from the 176Gb/s which would make that bandwidth 97% effective on launch which is incredibly good.
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You are on denial i admited to be wrong when you show me you owned a PS3,apparently you can't do the same comparing morons posting on forums vs Edge source is a joke on your part.
I'm the last person to defend that fool. But the Order is running in full HD, just in a different aspect ratio, as you would get in a film. There is no upscaling or anything. If the black bars they are using for cinematic effect were rendered gameplay instead, the game would be 1080P. While Ryse is running full screen, just at a lower res that is then upscaled. well where is this 900p thing coming from? when i watch a 1080p movie at 2:35:1 on my TV, there aren't fewer pixels than if the movie was 1080p and set to 1:85:1 is there? Â[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] also gotta love how The order 66 being 800p or whatever is = "a design choice" but ryse = "hardware limitations".
his new sig about double standards is especially laughable considering the shit this guy comes out with daily.
sts106mat
1920 * 1080 is 16:9 ratio.
1920 * 800 is 2.4 ratio.
They are both "full HD", they are just different shapes. If you play a 2.4 movie (or game) on a 16:9 TV, you will get black bars. The resolution isn't lower, it's just the shape of the picture doesn't fit the shape of the screen.
Edit: The 900P they are talking about is still 16:9 ration, meaning it will fill the whole screen, meaning it has to be upscaled to 1080P to fill the screen, similar to how 720P games were upscaled this gen.
but forza 5 is 1080p and 60fps, doesn't that debunk what these 'anonymous' devs said in Edge magazine? your problem is you cherry pick too much and you ignore Facts that don't fit with your argument. An 'anonymous dev' has the same level as credibility as an 'anonymous' poster on IGN whichever way you slice it. Anonymous = No credibility full stop. Besides, they never mention ryse in there article so where did you get the idea that they guessed ryse resolution?delta3074
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No Forza is a reacing game racing games engines are not as taxing as FPS or 3rd person shooters,in fact a GPU running a FPS at 30FPS can run a racing game way faster if not double the speed using the same resolution.
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Look at the 7870 running Dirt 3 at 2560x1600 on Ultra AAX4 74 FPS.
Look at Crysis 2560x1600 25FPS
Nother test show 18 FPS
Metro 28 FPS
Total War 19 FPS
Batman 45 FPS
BF3 41 FPS
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The only one that does better frames is Portal 2 which we all know it doesn't demand anything.
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But let me answer your question with another,if Forza runs at 1080p 60FPS why is Killer Instint 720 60 FPS.? Why Is Ryse 900p 30 FPS,why is DR3Â 30 FPS with unconfirmed resolution yet.?
If one game was prove that all game could run the same shouldn't the PS3 be running games at 60 FPS 1080p wipe out is 1080p 60 FPS.
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That bolded part pretty much confirm you loss it,hey i am a moron on a forum here is what i claim Titafall will not be 60FPS it will be 30 with 720 reslution,now take my word for it is as good as the developer from the Edge article..:lol:
Doesn't matter what the resolution is... 1440p wouldnt change the fact that Donkey Kong Country (SNES) has better animations.
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Today a huge blow was dealt to the Kinect camp.. Our condolences to their supperters
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The entire console camp actualyy.
Ryse is not on PS4 thankfully so No.Â
:lol::lol: serves lems right. This summer they've been on a self ownage marathon
The lemmings summer rollercoaster ride:
DRM - This is the future, Microsoft is doing it right. PS4 is old
No DRM - Microsoft is listening to us, we never wanted DRM
Always online - The future
Not always online - Microsoft just listening again
Kinect is the headset - No need for a headset, Kinect detects your voice
Headset included - What an amazing and essential piece of hardware!
Titanfall - Best game ever based on E3 awards
Titanfall Multiplat - ...What is titanfall?
Ryse - 1080P Native!
Ryse 900P - :cry:
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please explain why all PS4 games aren't  1080p and 60fps eltormo? i can't quite figure it out.
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Is quite easy really all GPU have a mamixum level of power and efficiency,this doesn't apply to the PS4 and xbox one also to PC GPU the 7970 can't run Crysis 3 max out at 60 FPS iin 1080p either,when you reach certain point you will have to give up something,in this case the PS4 has more to give than the xbox one just like the PC has more to give than the PS4.
^ ^ This. I don't know why Lems continue to damage control, it only makes them look worse. Why not just admit the XBone is the weaker console and move on? Every attempt to place the XBone on the same level with PS4 on performance has failed so far. In this thread alone we have lemmings quoting IGN comments sections as proof that KZSF isn't running at 1080p while the devs confirmed since February that KZSF is 1080p native. :lol: Truly pathetic damage control to say the least.
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:lol::lol: serves lems right. This summer they've been on a self ownage marathon
The lemmings summer rollercoaster ride:
DRM - This is the future, Microsoft is doing it right. PS4 is old
No DRM - Microsoft is listening to us, we never wanted DRM
Always online - The future
Not always online - Microsoft just listening again
Kinect is the headset - No need for a headset, Kinect detects your voice
Headset included - What an amazing and essential piece of hardware!
Titanfall - Best game ever based on E3 awards
Titanfall Multiplat - ...What is titanfall?
Ryse - 1080P Native!
Ryse 900P - :cry:
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Today a huge blow was dealt to the Kinect camp.. Our condolences to their supperters
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The entire console camp actualyy.
Ryse is not on PS4 thankfully so No. No, but Drive Club is and it looks worse then Forza 5 and GT6. Developer are barely keeping it at 30fps and it's a racing game as tormentos keeps telling us. Should be able to do 60fps since it doesn't tax the system.[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] well where is this 900p thing coming from? when i watch a 1080p movie at 2:35:1 on my TV, there aren't fewer pixels than if the movie was 1080p and set to 1:85:1 is there? Â1920 * 1080 is 16:9 ratio. 1920 * 800 is 2.4 ratio. They are both "full HD", they are just different shapes. If you play a 2.4 movie (or game) on a 16:9 TV, you will get black bars. The resolution isn't lower, it's just the shape of the picture doesn't fit the shape of the screen. i thought there had to be 1080 horizontal lines x 1920 vertical lines to be "full HD", anyhing below 1080 but above 720 = "HD". a 1080p 2:35:1 movie looks as clear as a 1080p 1:85:1 movie to me?sts106mat
They are just arbitrary standars made by organizations like VESA or TV and monitor makers and other companies like that.
Common standarized 16:9 resolutions:
720p = 0.92MP = HD
900p = 1.44MP = HD+
1080p = 2.07MP = FHD
1440p = 3.69MP = WQHD
For example some TV and monitor manufacturers don't recognize 720p as HD but 768p(1.05MP) instead.
So what he said is false since 1920*800 = 1.54MP, away from the 2.07MP of FHD and close to the 1.44MP of HD+.
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lol at cow's design choice damage control for the order 1886Â :lol:
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The developer it self told people what they are aiming for dude and is not fildelity or graphics,they are targeting an experience like you get in movies,they are even emulating lents..:lol:
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if you're concerned about what looks better than other shit, might as well go with the best and thats pc gaming my friend.
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Find me a $399 one that beat the PS4 an i am there..
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Other wise take your over priced GPU and your full damage controll and GTFO..:lol:
Your butthurt and damage control is way off the charts in this thread.  Oh the irony of you claiming damage control on someone else haha.  All you ever do in SW is damage control for Sony, it's sad and pathetic, yet very hilarious at the same time.  If your English was better, you could seriously do PR work for Sony :lol:
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