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#101 deactivated-587acdd100f19
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@silversix_ said:

Where is NyaDC!? We need more damage control, its an important day.

He's being debriefed at Microsoft HQ as we speak on how to proceed.

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@boycie said:

Real gamer will see this as a lose of a interesting looking game.

Fanboys will just use this as excrement to fling.

Very well said and this news sucks for gamers!

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#103 aigis
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rip scalebound, im sure the xbone will follow suit

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I'm hearing rumblings about Kamiya having a full fledged breakdown, and taking a break from making games... WTF

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@davillain- said:

I was going to take this with a grain of salt, but given that it's Jason Schreier reporting, I am now concerned. This would really suck as it is one of the games I was actually looking forward to.

Well the news is on the official website so the game is done with. :(

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Hopefully MS gets another dev to finish, really wanted to see more from this game.

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#107  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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And lems think sales are not important. No one will be making games for the xbone if it doesn't sell. MS should just discontinue the xbox and leave the space for someone else.

Microsoft made the decision, because the game wasn't good enough.

The first CGI trailer looked great, but once I saw the gameplay I wasn't impressed at all. A shame they weren't able to create a decent game, hopefully the available funds will translate to a new, better game.

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@FastRobby said:
@dakur said:

And lems think sales are not important. No one will be making games for the xbone if it doesn't sell. MS should just discontinue the xbox and leave the space for someone else.

Microsoft made the decision, because they destroyed the game and the developer with their moronic management.

Fixed

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I wasn't totally sold by it, but I was definitely interested in Scalebound. Really unfortunate for those who were waiting in anticipation.

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@Xabiss said:
@davillain- said:

I was going to take this with a grain of salt, but given that it's Jason Schreier reporting, I am now concerned. This would really suck as it is one of the games I was actually looking forward to.

Well the news is on the official website so the game is done with. :(

Yeah I just read the news it's a done deal.

I just don't understand, how a game that was 4 years in development can just get the axe? Especially with a lot of time and money invested into it? I guess Sea of Thieves is MS only wild card game they have now.

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Lems damage controlling already.

Hope Sony picks up the remnants of this and decides to support kamiya

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It's disappointing but i think it is for the best. The game looked terrible.

Maybe they can revive it later on.

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#113 A-new-Guardian
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I imagine MS will sever all ties with platinum after this fallout, no?

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Sucks that a game is cancelled but...

it serves right to PG for alligning themselves with MS. They're the cancer of gaming ever since they came to it

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This is kind of unbelievable. What in the hell is going on with MS? How could they let this happen? Wasn't Scalebound one of their biggest upcoming games? All I can say is they better have a fantastic E3 with new games shown if they don't want to start losing some serious ground.

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#116 zassimick  Moderator
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This is... surprising. I wanted to be interested in this game but there were a few things I wasn't too keen on. Definitely kept an open-mind though since we hadn't seen everything.

It's a shame, for sure.

@charizard1605 said:

I'm hearing rumblings about Kamiya having a full fledged breakdown, and taking a break from making games... WTF

And this part is interesting. What in the world happened with it? Could Microsoft be difficult to work with or was the project just a little too ambitious? I have not read all the posts so if I'm missing something please enlighten me.

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#117  Edited By silversix_
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@boycie said:

Real gamers will see this as a loss of a interesting looking game.

Fanboys will just use this as excrement to fling.

when this kind of shit is the main lead, nope, don't think much was lost

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#118 nintendoboy16
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So, it's confirmed. F***!

@Vatusus said:

Sucks that a game is cancelled but...

it serves right to PG for alligning themselves with MS. They're the cancer of gaming ever since they came to it

Well, this proved an earlier post correct.

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#119  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@charizard1605 said:

I'm hearing rumblings about Kamiya having a full fledged breakdown, and taking a break from making games... WTF

One possible situation was that Scalebound was a complete mess and Microsoft would have had to invest a lot of resources into it hoping that Platinum would fix it and they decided against it. Scalebound E3 2016 showing had that terrible framerate drops and giving the fact that this game had a lot of issues, I guess MS just say **** it and go with something else.

Edit: The same happen with Fable Legends from Liongates studios situation.

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Now I have zero reason to get xbox.. thanks MS.... you con me twice for Halo, Gear and Forza box and there will not going to be a third time!

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This sucks! :(

Damn it! I was really anticipating this game.

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Lems damage controlling already.

Hope Sony picks up the remnants of this and decides to support kamiya

Can't, Microsoft owns the IP

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  • Shut down Emsemble for no reason
  • Closed down Lionhead for unprofitable projects that they had assigned them to against Lionhead's wishes
  • Destroyed Rare
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  • Refused to swoop in and buy multiple gaming studios and support them, that could actually have been great additions to their arsenal, including Bizarre and Bioware

They don't care about the medium. They care about how Xbox can further their other ambitions. To them, Xbox is a scapegoat, a sacrificial lamb, a Trojan horse, that means nothing to them in and of itself.

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This is kind of unbelievable. What in the hell is going on with MS? How could they let this happen? Wasn't Scalebound one of their biggest upcoming games? All I can say is they better have a fantastic E3 with new games shown if they don't want to start losing some serious ground.

Even if they do put on a good show, who can trust them? Fable Legends, Scalebound. Just buy our system and wait three years before you're told it ain't happening.

Watch Crackdown, Halo 6 and Gears 5 all become Scorpio exclusive. Just one more way to shove it up the fanbases' asses.

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@silversix_ said:
@boycie said:

Real gamers will see this as a loss of a interesting looking game.

Fanboys will just use this as excrement to fling.

when this kind of shit is the main lead, nope, don't think much was lost

Well FF XV seemed to do alright and it's way worse

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The inside story is that Platinum were unable to make deadlines (they took on too many projects), the game was unable to run properly on standard Xbox systems (it was too ambitious), and Microsoft was unwilling to work with them and invest more money into the game.

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@silversix_: lol spot on ?

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Well that sucks for Xbox owners. I know alot of people here were excited for this game.

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@reduc_ab_ said:

This is kind of unbelievable. What in the hell is going on with MS? How could they let this happen? Wasn't Scalebound one of their biggest upcoming games? All I can say is they better have a fantastic E3 with new games shown if they don't want to start losing some serious ground.

this e3 will be about scorpio, not games.

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@Ghost_Dub said:
@reduc_ab_ said:

This is kind of unbelievable. What in the hell is going on with MS? How could they let this happen? Wasn't Scalebound one of their biggest upcoming games? All I can say is they better have a fantastic E3 with new games shown if they don't want to start losing some serious ground.

Even if they do put on a good show, who can trust them? Fable Legends, Scalebound. Just buy our system and wait three years before you're told it ain't happening.

Watch Crackdown, Halo 6 and Gears 5 all become Scorpio exclusive. Just one more way to shove it up the fanbases' asses.

I do have a hard time taking their claims seriously. But to be fair, all corporations lie. A lot.

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@silversix_ said:
@reduc_ab_ said:

This is kind of unbelievable. What in the hell is going on with MS? How could they let this happen? Wasn't Scalebound one of their biggest upcoming games? All I can say is they better have a fantastic E3 with new games shown if they don't want to start losing some serious ground.

this e3 will be about scorpio, not games.

Because they don't fucking have any.

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@howmakewood said:
@silversix_ said:
@boycie said:

Real gamers will see this as a loss of a interesting looking game.

Fanboys will just use this as excrement to fling.

when this kind of shit is the main lead, nope, don't think much was lost

Well FF XV seemed to do alright and it's way worse

i wouldn't say its worse. Pronto is on par, yeah, but the others are much better than this douche.

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@reduc_ab_ said:
@Ghost_Dub said:
@reduc_ab_ said:

This is kind of unbelievable. What in the hell is going on with MS? How could they let this happen? Wasn't Scalebound one of their biggest upcoming games? All I can say is they better have a fantastic E3 with new games shown if they don't want to start losing some serious ground.

Even if they do put on a good show, who can trust them? Fable Legends, Scalebound. Just buy our system and wait three years before you're told it ain't happening.

Watch Crackdown, Halo 6 and Gears 5 all become Scorpio exclusive. Just one more way to shove it up the fanbases' asses.

I do have a hard time taking their claims seriously. But to be fair, all corporations lie. A lot.

True. Only difference is, they used to be subtle about it.

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Cows using this as an excuse to claim they "cared" about this IP, lmao.

MS knows what it's doing, there's a reason it was cancelled.

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Remember the "what the hell is going on at Sony " meme?

Guess it's MS's turn. You messed up,MS

Time to drop out of the race and try again next gen.

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@silversix_ said:
@reduc_ab_ said:

This is kind of unbelievable. What in the hell is going on with MS? How could they let this happen? Wasn't Scalebound one of their biggest upcoming games? All I can say is they better have a fantastic E3 with new games shown if they don't want to start losing some serious ground.

this e3 will be about scorpio, not games.

Likely. I'm willing to give MS the benefit of the doubt, though. Maybe that's dumb of me, but whatever. We'll see.

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@navyguy21 said:

MS owns the IP, so if they parted ways with Platinum then some other developer could finish it.

It may not end well if that happens.

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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

MS knows what it's doing

Clearly

@charizard1605 said:
  • Shut down Emsemble for no reason
  • Closed down Lionhead for unprofitable projects that they had assigned them to against Lionhead's wishes
  • Destroyed Rare
  • Drove away Bungie with their relentless tentpole brand focus
  • Drove away Epic with their relentless tentpole brand focus
  • Refused to swoop in and buy multiple gaming studios and support them, that could actually have been great additions to their arsenal, including Bizarre and Bioware

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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

Cows using this as an excuse to claim they "cared" about this IP, lmao.

MS knows what it's doing, there's a reason it was cancelled.

That is the truth. They are not happy to cancel it, but they felt it needed to be done. Sometimes you just need to end it.

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This is very upsetting.

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@charizard1605 said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

MS knows what it's doing

Clearly

@charizard1605 said:
  • Shut down Emsemble for no reason
  • Closed down Lionhead for unprofitable projects that they had assigned them to against Lionhead's wishes
  • Destroyed Rare
  • Drove away Bungie with their relentless tentpole brand focus
  • Drove away Epic with their relentless tentpole brand focus
  • Refused to swoop in and buy multiple gaming studios and support them, that could actually have been great additions to their arsenal, including Bizarre and Bioware

You don't know what goes down inside MS and why those went down, You are just spewing random MS hate.

SONY has gotten rid of MANY developers over the years too, this is MS 3rd console, SONY has 4.. SONY lost a lot of franchises and IPs from PS2-3.

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@charizard1605 said:
@a-new-guardian said:

Lems damage controlling already.

Hope Sony picks up the remnants of this and decides to support kamiya

Can't, Microsoft owns the IP

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Microsoft is poisonous, plain and simple. I am never giving them the benefit of the doubt again.

  • Shut down Emsemble for no reason
  • Closed down Lionhead for unprofitable projects that they had assigned them to against Lionhead's wishes
  • Destroyed Rare
  • Drove away Bungie with their relentless tentpole brand focus
  • Drove away Epic with their relentless tentpole brand focus
  • Refused to swoop in and buy multiple gaming studios and support them, that could actually have been great additions to their arsenal, including Bizarre and Bioware

They don't care about the medium. They care about how Xbox can further their other ambitions. To them, Xbox is a scapegoat, a sacrificial lamb, a Trojan horse, that means nothing to them in and of itself.

Something is going on with MS and relationships with developers. I don't know of they are poison, but MS is having some issues none the less. I really wanted Scalebound and I'm pissed.

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@BassMan said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

Cows using this as an excuse to claim they "cared" about this IP, lmao.

MS knows what it's doing, there's a reason it was cancelled.

That is the truth. They are not happy to cancel it, but they felt it needed to be done. Sometimes you just need to end it.

Exactly, the dude went insane.. what if they had released a buggy and unfinished mess, that flopped 2/10 everywhere?

Rather just kill it, it was probably a smart move, MS is a billion dollar company and most posters here are armchair CEOs

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#144  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@FLOPPAGE_50: And yet Sony will spend 10 years on a niche game like TLG, six years on Gran Turismo 5, just to ensure that the damn thing actually gets made. MS will... dump the studio like a hot potato if the game spends too long in development? And oh, the funny thing is, Sony is poorer than MS, you'd think it would be the other way around.

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Wow that sucks. I know it was going through some problems but I didn't think it would get delayed.

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#146  Edited By Moistcarrot
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Kamiya has apparently been having mental health problems or something, perhaps that was what influenced this decision?

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@charizard1605 said:

The inside story is that Platinum were unable to make deadlines (they took on too many projects), the game was unable to run properly on standard Xbox systems (it was too ambitious), and Microsoft was unwilling to work with them and invest more money into the game.

So why is Microsoft the bad guy exactly? This isn't for children, money isn't endless in this industry. Do you know how much money the game already costed? It's been in development for almost 4 years (since 2013) with apparently barely anything to show for. But no Microsoft should just keep pouring money in an empty pit, because it's for the "arts".

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@charizard1605 said:

@FLOPPAGE_50: And yet Sony will spend 10 years on a niche game like TLG, six years on Gran Turismo 5, just to ensure that the damn thing actually gets made. MS will... dump the studio like a hot potato if the game spends too long in development? And oh, the funny thing is, Sony is richer than MS, you'd think it would be the other way around.

How is that even your argument? you've got a whole other agenda going on.

YOU DO NOT KNOW what happened with the game and STUDIO.. the game could be in a real bad state, do you not know what a development hell is?

Very few franchise recuperate, look at DUKE NUKEM forever.

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@FastRobby said:
@charizard1605 said:

The inside story is that Platinum were unable to make deadlines (they took on too many projects), the game was unable to run properly on standard Xbox systems (it was too ambitious), and Microsoft was unwilling to work with them and invest more money into the game.

So why is Microsoft the bad guy exactly? This isn't for children, money isn't endless in this industry. Do you know how much money the game already costed? It's been in development for almost 4 years (since 2013) with apparently barely anything to show for. But no Microsoft should just keep pouring money in an empty pit, because it's for the "arts".

Sony will spend 10 years on a niche game like TLG, six years on Gran Turismo 5, just to ensure that the damn thing actually gets made. Nintendo will buy a developer who have never made a single commercial hit, and give them carte blanche access and six years to come out with a new IP, delaying deadlines so the game meets their vision (with Xenoblade and Monolith Soft). MS will... dump the studio like a hot potato if the game spends too long in development? And oh, the funny thing is, MS is richer than the other two, you'd think it would be the other way around.

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@FLOPPAGE_50: Duke Nukem Forever flat out changed studios at least twice.

Platinum Games are among the most talented developers in the industry. If they had been given time, they would have delivered.