Seriously, Name 1 thing the PS3 has done right.

[QUOTE="mclazyj"]

[QUOTE="kentaro22"]How about "no 3 rings of death type of problems" or "no external but internal power brick" How about a "Blu-ray player" that will most probably be the standad next-gen movie video disk? User replaceble Hard drive? 97% backwards compatibility (sorry for the europeans, but software emulation may be even better after a while).kentaro22

Blue Ray will not become a standard until they allow Porn on the format. And replacing the hard drive voids the warranty. Two things that it has definitely done wrong.

[QUOTE="Zeke129"]

• The launch

Hurt it more than anything. Ebay sellers, robbings, etc.
Both of those are irrelavent. In the end, the consoles get to the consumers. And you can hardly blame the robberies on Sony.

• Hype

Again, hurt the system, as it was not a supercomputer and did not blow the 360 away graphically like Sony claimed.
But it made the launch sell out. The PS3 launch was better than the 360 launch supply-wise, as well.

• Resistance

Good game. Give you that.

• Motorstorm

Not out yet, but solidly AA by most reviews.
I was referring mostly to the demo, as it showed the power of the PSN. But it will be a high quality game, and there's no denying that.

• VF5

Good fighter, coming to 360 though and not really a "system seller".
No one game is a system seller, and exclusivity doesn't matter. If you own a PS3, you'll probably get VF5. And games are where Sony makes a profit.

• Downloadable content and PS1 emulator

And PS2 BC, which Sony did well.

• Free online play

Again, a good thing for Sony.

• Multimedia features

Not as robust as the 360's PC linking,IMO, but far better than the Wii.
Xbox360 doesn't take 3 types of memory cards and offer compatibility with tons of Bluetooth and USB devices, though. And the PC linking is useless if you don't run Windows as your main OS.

• The actual hardware (eg, cooling system)

Not sure what you mean, but it is a solid machine so far.
There aren't many defects and the fans are whisper quiet. And the hardware itself is very powerful.

• Blu-ray movie playback (considered by many as the best BD player)

Best selling, maybe, but not the best. Home theater review sites have many others that top it in quality.
But not with the same value. $600 for a Blu-ray player is a fantastic deal.

• Tried and true controller design

True

• HDD standard

Does not make much difference from a gamin perspective. Makes development a bit trickier, but nothing really drastic here.
PC game devs use the hard drive constantly. It's not any harder for a console dev. Also, a standard HDD allows for mods and extra content for everyone, not just those who bought the "premium" edition.

Need I say more? That's more than what can be listed for the Wii or 360.
SpruceCaboose

• Ability to install a seperate OS on another partition
• HDMI standard
  

[QUOTE="kentaro22"][QUOTE="mclazyj"]

[QUOTE="kentaro22"]How about "no 3 rings of death type of problems" or "no external but internal power brick" How about a "Blu-ray player" that will most probably be the standad next-gen movie video disk? User replaceble Hard drive? 97% backwards compatibility (sorry for the europeans, but software emulation may be even better after a while).SpruceCaboose

Blue Ray will not become a standard until they allow Porn on the format. And replacing the hard drive voids the warranty. Two things that it has definitely done wrong.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Zeke129"]

• The launch

Hurt it more than anything. Ebay sellers, robbings, etc.
Both of those are irrelavent. In the end, the consoles get to the consumers. And you can hardly blame the robberies on Sony.

• Hype

Again, hurt the system, as it was not a supercomputer and did not blow the 360 away graphically like Sony claimed.
But it made the launch sell out. The PS3 launch was better than the 360 launch supply-wise, as well.

• Resistance

Good game. Give you that.

• Motorstorm

Not out yet, but solidly AA by most reviews.
I was referring mostly to the demo, as it showed the power of the PSN. But it will be a high quality game, and there's no denying that.

• VF5

Good fighter, coming to 360 though and not really a "system seller".
No one game is a system seller, and exclusivity doesn't matter. If you own a PS3, you'll probably get VF5. And games are where Sony makes a profit.

• Downloadable content and PS1 emulator

And PS2 BC, which Sony did well.

• Free online play

Again, a good thing for Sony.

• Multimedia features

Not as robust as the 360's PC linking,IMO, but far better than the Wii.
Xbox360 doesn't take 3 types of memory cards and offer compatibility with tons of Bluetooth and USB devices, though. And the PC linking is useless if you don't run Windows as your main OS.

• The actual hardware (eg, cooling system)

Not sure what you mean, but it is a solid machine so far.
There aren't many defects and the fans are whisper quiet. And the hardware itself is very powerful.

• Blu-ray movie playback (considered by many as the best BD player)

Best selling, maybe, but not the best. Home theater review sites have many others that top it in quality.
But not with the same value. $600 for a Blu-ray player is a fantastic deal.

• Tried and true controller design

True

• HDD standard

Does not make much difference from a gamin perspective. Makes development a bit trickier, but nothing really drastic here.
PC game devs use the hard drive constantly. It's not any harder for a console dev. Also, a standard HDD allows for mods and extra content for everyone, not just those who bought the "premium" edition.

Need I say more? That's more than what can be listed for the Wii or 360.
Zeke129

• Ability to install a seperate OS on another partition
• HDMI standard
  

Price?

Blue-ray?

Backward Compatability?

Games?

So far it seems like they totally missed the mark on a lot of things.  I'm sure in about a year or so they will get in line but man that's a bad way to get thigns started.

chulomex3

Of course not! Though digital distribution is gaining more and more, but Disk based content (games, music, video, etc...) will not phase out until the rest of the world have decent internet connections (china, south asia, South america, India... etc where the use of internet is still infant). So I guess, at least not for now.kentaro22

Well for one its got every1 talking about it...even so called "lemmings" and "sheep"

Who in fact spend more time discussing Ps3's 'failure' (mere months from launch) and less time discussing the attraction of their own respective systems! :?

cheapness1

That's because the number of things wrong with the PS3 is greater than the number of both the good and bad things of both the 360 and Wii put together... :|

[QUOTE="chulomex3"]

Price?

Blue-ray?

Backward Compatability?

Games?

So far it seems like they totally missed the mark on a lot of things. I'm sure in about a year or so they will get in line but man that's a bad way to get thigns started.

mrboo15

    VGA has the same function, and Blu-Ray has yet to be proven useful for gaming.

It's still selling to the dismay of those who are anti-sony.DementedDragon

[QUOTE="DementedDragon"]It's still selling to the dismay of those who are anti-sony.psycotictaratua

[QUOTE="kentaro22"]Of course not! Though digital distribution is gaining more and more, but Disk based content (games, music, video, etc...) will not phase out until the rest of the world have decent internet connections (china, south asia, South america, India... etc where the use of internet is still infant). So I guess, at least not for now.SpruceCaboose

sixaxis contoller duh

but seriously as a PS3 owner: resistance, free online and a blu ray player

Price?

Blue-ray?

Backward Compatability?

Games?

So far it seems like they totally missed the mark on a lot of things.  I'm sure in about a year or so they will get in line but man that's a bad way to get thigns started.

chulomex3

MGS4 is all u need to know. :)

[QUOTE="kentaro22"]Of course not! Though digital distribution is gaining more and more, but Disk based content (games, music, video, etc...) will not phase out until the rest of the world have decent internet connections (china, south asia, South america, India... etc where the use of internet is still infant). So I guess, at least not for now.SpruceCaboose

Price?

right, 599.99 seems reasonable to me

Blue-ray?

nice feature, I enjoyed it very much

Backward Compatability?

kicks ass, I'm currently playing Okami and FFXII on it

Games?

Resistence, RR7, and VF5 all occupying too much of my time (I need to spend more time studying:P)

Price?

Blue-ray?

Backward Compatability?

Games?

So far it seems like they totally missed the mark on a lot of things. I'm sure in about a year or so they will get in line but man that's a bad way to get thigns started.

chulomex3

Blue Ray will not become a standard until they allow Porn on the format. And replacing the hard drive voids the warranty. Two things that it has definitely done wrong.

mclazyj

In my eyes, the only reason Xbox360 games got perfect scores when it first launched is because they were the first freaking "next-gen" games of 2005... Now they're comparing Ps3s first launch titles to ones that have been out for months on the Xbox360..Iplancy

And that is a totally fair comparison, the PS3 has to be competitive right out of the gates. With all the delays and extra dev time they should be equal if not better than 360, especially cuz of price.

40 person multiplayer with no lag on its 1st big title (R: FOM)

Can 360 do this?

finally putting some great games on PSP and great 2007 lineup for PS3.

Resistance.  That's one.

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40 person multiplayer with no lag on its 1st big title (R: FOM)

Can 360 do this?

AvIdGaMeR444

Resistance.

Nike_Air

Price?

Blue-ray?

Backward Compatability?

Games?

So far it seems like they totally missed the mark on a lot of things.  I'm sure in about a year or so they will get in line but man that's a bad way to get thigns started.

chulomex3

Price?

Blue-ray?

Backward Compatability?

Games?

So far it seems like they totally missed the mark on a lot of things. I'm sure in about a year or so they will get in line but man that's a bad way to get thigns started.

chulomex3

[QUOTE="chulomex3"]

Price?

Blue-ray?

Backward Compatability?

Games?

So far it seems like they totally missed the mark on a lot of things. I'm sure in about a year or so they will get in line but man that's a bad way to get thigns started.

PS2Hawk

[QUOTE="chulomex3"]

Price?

Blue-ray?

Backward Compatability?

Games?

So far it seems like they totally missed the mark on a lot of things. I'm sure in about a year or so they will get in line but man that's a bad way to get thigns started.

PS2Hawk

So what are you playing on your quality product?

Price?

Blue-ray?

Backward Compatability?

Games?

So far it seems like they totally missed the mark on a lot of things. I'm sure in about a year or so they will get in line but man that's a bad way to get thigns started.

chulomex3

Blu-Ray is worth the price alone and it is considered one of the best if not the best player on the market so chalk 1 thing right for Sony. Oh and the online works so make that 2 things for sony. Free GTHD game, I consider that right. Why bash PS3, If you dont want it, dont buy it. But get over it already. I own both and they are both great systems.rockydog1111

[QUOTE="rockydog1111"]Blu-Ray is worth the price alone and it is considered one of the best if not the best player on the market so chalk 1 thing right for Sony. Oh and the online works so make that 2 things for sony. Free GTHD game, I consider that right. Why bash PS3, If you dont want it, dont buy it. But get over it already. I own both and they are both great systems.Illumination77

It doesn't have to do anything right its SONY. you will buy it or Krazy Ken will say you are not playing true next Gen Nugtoka

Resistance.

Nike_Air

It's still selling to the dismay of those who are anti-sony.DementedDragon