Seriously, When you look at it, Wii is Crap, its a GIMMICK.

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#251 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]It's garbage, yet it may very well win this generation. :lol:Lord_Mango_Jr


It's sad really, how dumb the world can be. All these granmothers and four-year olds buying a Wii. The day I have to play an FPS with my grandmother is the day I quit playing videogames.

Can't bear the thought of losing to your Grandmother? :lol:
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]It's garbage, yet it may very well win this generation. :lol:Lord_Mango_Jr


It's sad really, how dumb the world can be. All these granmothers and four-year olds buying a Wii. The day I have to play an FPS with my grandmother is the day I quit playing videogames.

I don't quite get all this bragging about family get togethers. My best gaming time is still spent alone. I had folks playing Guitar Hero II, Gears, and DOA4 at a house party I had on Sunday and its all alot of fun but I still want to play alone so I can put a dent in the career mode of GHII or insane mode in Gears of War.

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#253 X360PS3AMD05
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[QUOTE="Lord_Mango_Jr"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]It's garbage, yet it may very well win this generation. :lol:Jandurin


It's sad really, how dumb the world can be. All these granmothers and four-year olds buying a Wii. The day I have to play an FPS with my grandmother is the day I quit playing videogames.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

QFT, the Wii brought my family closer together since we play games and we never used to before. But i guess some people just want to "look cool" and he hates his grandmother for some reason :lol:
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#254 BuryMe
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as for Wii, its just getting last gen games, the only difference is that last gen games are now played(wiimote) differently. RE N64 to RE 4 was revolutionary, you are never going to see a revolution like that from Gamecube to Wii. whats the difference between Zelda: TP on Gamecube and Zelda: TP on Wii? nothing, just wiimote gimmicky gameplay.xxThyLordxx
The 360 was getting alot of last gen ports when it first came out too. Yet, most of its good game comming out later are original to the generation. Super Paper mario isn't a port, neither is sadness, no more heroes, sonic and the secret rings (i know it's already out), and metroid prime 3.

The wii is getting alot of original games, and exclusive. If developers would put some time into their games, they could be making great looking games with some great AI. You just choose not to believe that

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#255 bruno_fmenedes
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[QUOTE="Tristam22"]LOL. "Lets face facts, Wii is the worst console ever created." I must assume that this is a sheep going undercover to give cows a bad name. There's no way any self-respecting cow would post this nonsense.

TOTALLY OWNED!!!
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#256 blacktorn
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From a hardware perspective...i guess.

But i think Warioware smooth moves proves the wii isn't just an xbox with a wand.Although it actually is lol,if Microsoft or Sony came out with a type of wifi-pen that would work like the wii-remote,but i guess it's Microsoft/Sony's fault for not trying to be revolutionary and take a chance,we'll good for Nintendo for taking the risk,it's paying off big time.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]To the raving graphics ***** of a TC, most of the early games weren't even done on Hollywood dev kits,they were done on GC dev kits. We have no clue what the technological ceiling is on the Wii.xxThyLordxx



Xbox 1 Specs:

Wii Specs:






Power PC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Intel Chips

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#258 Arnalion
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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]To the raving graphics ***** of a TC, most of the early games weren't even done on Hollywood dev kits,they were done on GC dev kits. We have no clue what the technological ceiling is on the Wii.FireEmblem_Man




Xbox 1 Specs:

Wii Specs:






Power PC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Intel Chips

Nothing confirmed by Nintendo so it's not even discussable.
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#259 X360PS3AMD05
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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]To the raving graphics ***** of a TC, most of the early games weren't even done on Hollywood dev kits,they were done on GC dev kits. We have no clue what the technological ceiling is on the Wii.FireEmblem_Man




Xbox 1 Specs:

Wii Specs:






Power PC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Intel Chips

ehhh, depends, but in this case i'll agree.
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#260 samusarmada
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to thylord. Yes the leap from the ps1 to the ps2 was very large. But the leap from the GC to the 360 was not as large as we were seeing from the ps1 to ps2 games. If you look at games like body harvest and GTA3, you will se noticeable differences. (The reason I am using these games is because they are both sandbox games and have certain things in common.) Now if you look at Resi 4, it lookis great and then you compare it to the 30 sectrailer of resi5. It is not that big of a difference compared to the leap from body harvest to GTA3. Yes there is a leap but the graphical jump from generation to generation is now getting smaller and smaller meaning that although the wii has much worse graphics than the 360/ps3 it is much better than say releasing the wii with n64 graphics when the xbox1 and ps2 were revealed.
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[QUOTE="Lord_Mango_Jr"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]It's garbage, yet it may very well win this generation. :lol:Bread_or_Decide



It's sad really, how dumb the world can be. All these granmothers and four-year olds buying a Wii. The day I have to play an FPS with my grandmother is the day I quit playing videogames.

I don't quite get all this bragging about family get togethers. My best gaming time is still spent alone. I had folks playing Guitar Hero II, Gears, and DOA4 at a house party I had on Sunday and its all alot of fun but I still want to play alone so I can put a dent in the career mode of GHII or insane mode in Gears of War.

I couldn't be happier about being able to play with my non-gaming friends and relatives. This way I can continue to play my 1 player games (Zelda, Metroid, Mario) but I can get people around me into my hobby as well. Everybody wins!
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#262 swade
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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"][QUOTE="tmgwarrior72"]

so thats y wii is outselling ps3 3-1

explains alot

tmgwarrior72



lol.

sheep and sales.

sheep dont care if all their games are crap, as long as sales are good. they are happy.

the reason its selling is cause it has way better games then ps3, and ps3 is sitting on shelves cause it doesnt have any games worth getting it for

making a game that will sell a $250 is easy,  making a game that will sell a $600 ps3 is not gunna happen any time soon

I actually own a wii... Tell me exactly what good game is on it except for Zelda.

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so im guessing that makes the sixaxis a gimmick too right?since it uses motion sensing just like the wii mote.

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#265 X360PS3AMD05
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="Lord_Mango_Jr"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]It's garbage, yet it may very well win this generation. :lol:Metrovania



It's sad really, how dumb the world can be. All these granmothers and four-year olds buying a Wii. The day I have to play an FPS with my grandmother is the day I quit playing videogames.

I don't quite get all this bragging about family get togethers. My best gaming time is still spent alone. I had folks playing Guitar Hero II, Gears, and DOA4 at a house party I had on Sunday and its all alot of fun but I still want to play alone so I can put a dent in the career mode of GHII or insane mode in Gears of War.

I couldn't be happier about being able to play with my non-gaming friends and relatives. This way I can continue to play my 1 player games (Zelda, Metroid, Mario) but I can get people around me into my hobby as well. Everybody wins!

Plus, Chicks digg the Wii.
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#266 swade
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[QUOTE="swade"]I actually own a wii... Tell me exactly what good game is on it except for Zelda.

Jandurin

VC games. Trauma Center. Wario Ware. Excite Truck and DBZ (both for some people).

ARE YOU SERIOUS???..... Please... Wario Ware isnt a real game..... Excite Truck was flop. Dont know what Trauma center is .... Stop kidding yourself none of those games I think got that good of rating Excite Truck got like a 4 or a 5/10

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[QUOTE="swade"]I actually own a wii... Tell me exactly what good game is on it except for Zelda.

Jandurin

VC games. Trauma Center. Wario Ware. Excite Truck and DBZ (both for some people).

That's good enough for me! You forgot Elebits!
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so im guessing that makes the sixaxis a gimmick too right?since it uses motion sensing just like the wii mote.

mlbslugger86
only no where near as good.
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#272 Metrovania
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[QUOTE="Metrovania"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="Lord_Mango_Jr"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]It's garbage, yet it may very well win this generation. :lol:X360PS3AMD05



It's sad really, how dumb the world can be. All these granmothers and four-year olds buying a Wii. The day I have to play an FPS with my grandmother is the day I quit playing videogames.

I don't quite get all this bragging about family get togethers. My best gaming time is still spent alone. I had folks playing Guitar Hero II, Gears, and DOA4 at a house party I had on Sunday and its all alot of fun but I still want to play alone so I can put a dent in the career mode of GHII or insane mode in Gears of War.

I couldn't be happier about being able to play with my non-gaming friends and relatives. This way I can continue to play my 1 player games (Zelda, Metroid, Mario) but I can get people around me into my hobby as well. Everybody wins!

Plus, Chicks digg the Wii.

and in one fell swoop my two favorite things come together! :P
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#273 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="Lord_Mango_Jr"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]It's garbage, yet it may very well win this generation. :lol:Metrovania



It's sad really, how dumb the world can be. All these granmothers and four-year olds buying a Wii. The day I have to play an FPS with my grandmother is the day I quit playing videogames.

I don't quite get all this bragging about family get togethers. My best gaming time is still spent alone. I had folks playing Guitar Hero II, Gears, and DOA4 at a house party I had on Sunday and its all alot of fun but I still want to play alone so I can put a dent in the career mode of GHII or insane mode in Gears of War.

I couldn't be happier about being able to play with my non-gaming friends and relatives. This way I can continue to play my 1 player games (Zelda, Metroid, Mario) but I can get people around me into my hobby as well. Everybody wins!

Did you honestly care about this before Nintendo told you to care about it?

Last gen were you really distressed that your family wasn't playing video games with you? Was that like your number one wish for the next gen of gaming?  Come on man, I just don't buy it.

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#274 Bread_or_Decide
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In fact, how about this: I've had more fun with a few hours of Wario Ware. Shoot, I've had more fun with Wii sports than I did with Gears of War.Jandurin

Careful, thats fanboy talk. 

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#275 Sonick54
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*sigh* Another wii bashing thread got to over 14 pages :(
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[QUOTE="Metrovania"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="swade"]I actually own a wii... Tell me exactly what good game is on it except for Zelda.

Jandurin

VC games. Trauma Center. Wario Ware. Excite Truck and DBZ (both for some people).

That's good enough for me! You forgot Elebits!

Didn't really like Elebits. :P I got 90% through the game or so before I had to return it (rental). It was fun for awhile (really fun in the middle), but it lacked... story, and got too nitpicky in collections and the weird things you had to do to progress (like put this thing on that pole and put this bucket upside down on that thing...

Well I liked it :P Guess it's not for everyone. Really looking forward to Dewy's Adventure.
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#279 SecretPolice
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                Jandurin........ Looks as though you posted 7800 or so times; my guess is you have posted far more meaningless post in your time. lmao Anyway, IMHO though I may be wrong but unlike you, I was already knee deep in my love for video games when the 80's game crash accured and I can see this latest greed from "N" turning back time and I for one do not want to see it happen again.

             Thanks for you're thoughts though, I will take it with a grain of salt.

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Wow, you have changed my opinion /sarcasm
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[QUOTE="Metrovania"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="Lord_Mango_Jr"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]It's garbage, yet it may very well win this generation. :lol:Bread_or_Decide



It's sad really, how dumb the world can be. All these granmothers and four-year olds buying a Wii. The day I have to play an FPS with my grandmother is the day I quit playing videogames.

I don't quite get all this bragging about family get togethers. My best gaming time is still spent alone. I had folks playing Guitar Hero II, Gears, and DOA4 at a house party I had on Sunday and its all alot of fun but I still want to play alone so I can put a dent in the career mode of GHII or insane mode in Gears of War.

I couldn't be happier about being able to play with my non-gaming friends and relatives. This way I can continue to play my 1 player games (Zelda, Metroid, Mario) but I can get people around me into my hobby as well. Everybody wins!

Did you honestly care about this before Nintendo told you to care about it?

Last gen were you really distressed that your family wasn't playing video games with you? Was that like your number one wish for the next gen of gaming? Come on man, I just don't buy it.

yes actually! When I got my first console (NES) I was able to play with my mum and dad, it was loads of fun. As the consoles got more complex, they got left behind, as did many of my friends. My hobby became more and more solitary. I always wanted to show my friends or my Dad how cool MGS was; I wanted my family to see why I enjoyed gaming, but they couldn't understand. Now, I'm able to have my friends round and play Wii Sports, or take on my Mum at WarioWar when she visits my halls of residence. Just cause I'm not a graphics w**** doesn't mean I didn't come to this conclusion on my own. You think all the casuals who bought a Wii care what Nintendo tells them?
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#282 smackbang
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To luigigreen: thos GTA pics are for people who played both games and know how much difference between both games, the leap was huge in terms of everything. and Wii owners will never see that type of leap.



Yes the leap from 2d from 3d WAS a massive transition. But now we have three dimensional worlds. Wii owners now get motion sensing, if it succeeds it could be the future default control scheme. I believe that would be a massive transition in its own merit.
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"even in an interview with Miyamoto, he said when first created Mario, he wanted Mario to ride on Yoshi but the NES could not do it because of specs but he could later do it on SNES because SNES had better specs."

This is the most stupid thing I've ever read. Mario couldn't ride Yoshi because of specs? There were lots of NES games where your character rode animals and vehicles.

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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

same applies to Metriod, compare Metriod Gamecube to past Metriod games, you will see that Metriod Gamecube is a better game,

fanboy-buster

Many ppl will disagree with ya Including me....prepare yourself to get flamed....

As much as i liked Super Metroid, Metroid Prime is simply leaps and bounds better.
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[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"][QUOTE="fanboy-buster"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

same applies to Metriod, compare Metriod Gamecube to past Metriod games, you will see that Metriod Gamecube is a better game,

Jandurin

Many ppl will disagree with ya Including me....prepare yourself to get flamed....

As much as i liked Super Metroid, Metroid Prime is simply leaps and bounds better.

Disagree. Super Metroid was the better game.



Seconded

Super Metroid >>>> Metroid Prime.
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[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"][QUOTE="fanboy-buster"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

same applies to Metriod, compare Metriod Gamecube to past Metriod games, you will see that Metriod Gamecube is a better game,

Jandurin

Many ppl will disagree with ya Including me....prepare yourself to get flamed....

As much as i liked Super Metroid, Metroid Prime is simply leaps and bounds better.

Disagree. Super Metroid was the better game.

Agreed 100%... Super Metroid is a better game. Metroid Prime was an amazing 3D approximation of Super Metroid, but it was just an approximation. The world in SM is far more organic and the game never suffers from the tedium that the 3D games sometimes did. Also, I would argue that SM is the most beautiful game ever made; but then that's just me.
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"even in an interview with Miyamoto, he said when first created Mario, he wanted Mario to ride on Yoshi but the NES could not do it because of specs but he could later do it on SNES because SNES had better specs."

This is the most stupid thing I've ever read. Mario couldn't ride Yoshi because of specs? There were lots of NES games where your character rode animals and vehicles.

Number_1_Gamer

Do you realize how limited it would have been?

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#290 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]

"even in an interview with Miyamoto, he said when first created Mario, he wanted Mario to ride on Yoshi but the NES could not do it because of specs but he could later do it on SNES because SNES had better specs."

This is the most stupid thing I've ever read. Mario couldn't ride Yoshi because of specs? There were lots of NES games where your character rode animals and vehicles.

Bread_or_Decide

Do you realize how limited it would have been?

a big mess of green and brown thats what.
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#293 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]

"even in an interview with Miyamoto, he said when first created Mario, he wanted Mario to ride on Yoshi but the NES could not do it because of specs but he could later do it on SNES because SNES had better specs."

This is the most stupid thing I've ever read. Mario couldn't ride Yoshi because of specs? There were lots of NES games where your character rode animals and vehicles.

samusarmada

Do you realize how limited it would have been?

a big mess of green and brown thats what.

Miyamoto, like any artist, wants the product to match his vision. Often that requires a whole new level of graphic capabilities.

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#294 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

They still won't understand or be able to play MGS. My mom loves tetris on her gameboy but thats all she's willing to play. Mini games is all your mum and dad will play.  So no matter what you'll end up playing the best games alone unless all you wanna play is mini game crap the rest of your life.

Jandurin

Are you calling Diablo and Diablo 2 mini-games?

No, did I mention those games?

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#295 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="samusarmada"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]

"even in an interview with Miyamoto, he said when first created Mario, he wanted Mario to ride on Yoshi but the NES could not do it because of specs but he could later do it on SNES because SNES had better specs."

This is the most stupid thing I've ever read. Mario couldn't ride Yoshi because of specs? There were lots of NES games where your character rode animals and vehicles.

Bread_or_Decide

Do you realize how limited it would have been?

a big mess of green and brown thats what.

Miyamoto, like any artist, wants the product to match his vision. Often that requires a whole new level of graphic capabilities.

so I doubt he would need a ps3 to "fully" produce his intended results for super mario galaxy.
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#297 Metrovania
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They still won't understand or be able to play MGS. My mom loves tetris on her gameboy but thats all she's willing to play. Mini games is all your mum and dad will play. So no matter what you'll end up playing the best games alone unless all you wanna play is mini game crap the rest of your life.

Bread_or_Decide

Well I can deal with that. With my parents I used to play Popeye, Tetris or Balloon Fight. I just want to be able to have fun with the people I love. The last couple of gens I haven't had that option. I don't consider WarioWare to be a single-player masterpiece, but I can play it with my parents and my non-gamer friends. I don't understand your animosity towards mini games. I'll still spend time playing Zelda/Mario/Metroid games this gen, but I also have the option to play with my Mum. I reiterate: I couldn't be happier!!
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#298 bloodychimp
Member since 2006 • 933 Posts
[QUOTE="Miyomatic"]Your opinion sucks.xxThyLordxx


its not an opinion, it is a FACT.



You should probably check dictionary.com. You just stated an opinion. NOT A FACT. And I agree with Miyomatic.
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#299 Metrovania
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

They still won't understand or be able to play MGS. My mom loves tetris on her gameboy but thats all she's willing to play. Mini games is all your mum and dad will play. So no matter what you'll end up playing the best games alone unless all you wanna play is mini game crap the rest of your life.

Jandurin

Are you calling Diablo and Diablo 2 mini-games?

No, did I mention those games?

I said my dad played them. Let me reiterate. He spent 40 hours a week on Diablo 2 for a month. He still plays to this day, though I bought him WoW because I knew he would like it. "Mini games is all your mum and dad will play" you said. It's a blatant untruth. My dad has been playing video games his whole life, and he's 50-some now. I've played Diablo 1+2 WITH him.

Well... I think the point is that you are one of the lucky few. Most parents are more like mine when it comes to gaming.