Set sail for Booty cause it's time to get hype for Sea of Thieves!

depth is not a vague and nebulous term. you just want it to be that, but its actually not.

how many decision trees, how many branches on those decision trees, how many possible outcomes.

its pretty easy to quantify.

Where you are lost is the assumption that 'depth' means 'good' and it doesn't. depth is far easier to quantify then quality.

never the less, I am not interested in ad hominem's while debating substance, so what I am or am not is not relevant really to any discussion.

And it turns out you aren't bright either. Some of the SW users such as myself enjoy playing No Man's Sky and I'm still playing it from time to time since launch and as for SoT, it's basically NMS but with MP.

again...ad hominem doesnt affect me.

but yes...some people like NMS but it was not the second coming of christ that people thought it would be and I could see that a friggin mile away

by the way...

This looks more intresting:

Another misunderstood game that leads to poor reviews.

I applaud them for trying different avenues of games but Microsoft now need to focus more on the single player experience and story driven games.

@tdkmillsy: misunderstood how

When they say it's going to be a good game, they mean it's going to be a pile of shit.

We should know that.

6.5 from Polygon

they review games about as often as Forbes does

SoT could still turn out good. They need to devote NMS type of roadmap here on out.

@tryit: Forbes reviews like every half way big game... Not sure where you've been. Did you ever figure out what Uncharted was? Lol I'm yanking your "gamer" title for that... Even if you don't like the game, every gamer knows the franchise just like Mario, Zelda, Halo, Forza, etc.

dude like I said before I never called myself a gamer.

YOU did.

anyway, the point of my joke is that Polygon although pretends to be a gaming site spends a huge amount of time on other subjects other than gaming. which is why I stop visiting the site last year

Only thing NMS has it's going for is the ability to enter, leaving planets and go across the galaxy to the next planet is all that NMS is good for.

and that is what ticks me off, the populations impression that such a feature doesnt exist and has never been done before.

I was playing 3 games that did either both or one of those things before NMS even came out.

@tdkmillsy: So besides DCing every review, will you ever tell us how this game is misunderstood by reviewers?

Another MS first party flop. Jesus, this game is a disaster.

It's sad to see the once great Rare reduced to this. As much as I made fun of lems for hyping this game to the moon, I really wanted it to be good.

It had a great art style, nice water, and it's a game about pirating (who doesn't love pirates? I know I do). This game and Cuphead were the only games I was going to buy from the Windows 10 Store. It's hilarious to see lems damage control but at the same time it's sad to see Rare fail. This whole thing is bittersweet for me. Makes me wonder what MS and Rare were developing for the past 4 years.

Crackhead 3 is a guaranteed shitshow and SoD looks like a low budget game. What do lems and Xbox gamers have to look forward to this year from MS? This year Sony and Nintendo plan to dominate and MS is having another year of disastrous flops and droughts like they had last year.

Another one bites the dust. lol Atmos, HDR

Best excuse ever to justify poor reviews.

?? Tormentos is back!

Nice to see you bro.

Are you back for real this time? How's the power situation going for you? I hope all is well.

I'm in, 9/10 in coming.

@tormentos: The king is back.

It's definitely NOT worth $60 for this game at all! SoT should have been an Early Access and the lack of content would have been forgiving. Good thing I'm playing the game for free through 14 trial game pass and it's fun to play with friends but that's about it.

Crackdown 3 is a guarantee flop, so no hope for that. Guess SoT and State of Decay 2 will do it for me as far as MS offering comes into 2018.

https://www.twitch.tv/insomniacgames

Insomniac is having fun playing it LOl

Have the servers been fixed yet? I want to activate my 14 day Game Pass trial and give it a spin.

@quadknight: Yes, the servers are back up running for me, you should be good to go.

Awesome. Thanks bro, I'll give it a shot later this evening.

Why bother it's a flop!

well to be fair a game being a flop or not is not always a good indicator of if its good or not

I've played many flops in my time. The game looks fun even though it's a flop.

wow. sitting at 59 on Opencritic

@rrjim1: I played good to bad & bad to good games in my life time. Sometimes you gotta take the jump and not let other opinions sway you from playing a flop of a game or a successful game.

I feel bad for Rare. It would have been nice to see them make a comeback even though people from the old Rare left the company. They have great franchises.

Wow.

I think saying its a disaster is overdoing it.

the core of the game is good. the sailing is fun, PvP ship battles are fun, there is a good and pretty refreshing framework here. honestly, everything in the game is good and pretty well polished, aside obviously from the body-free kraken, server issues, and spawn camping issues they need to find a solution to. it just lacks variety and complexity, the kind of stuff that allows cool emergent gameplay to happen on a regular basis.

people have been comparing this game to No Mans Sky, but I think Destiny 1 is probably a better comparison. Remember how bare-bones that was at launch? then Bungie updated it and managed to maintain a pretty healthy online community by improving the game with updates.

I think SoT could very well do the same thing. In its current state, the $60 is not justified and the game lacks any real depth, but I appreciate that its something a bit different at least.

you can call this post damage control if you like, but its my honest opinion.

As I said in the other Sea of Thieves thread, it's a valid comparison. In both games, you have to get in the right mindset and not let your expectations run wild, you have to motivate yourself to explore and make your own stories, else you are going to hate the game. I do like No Man's Sky and have around 200 hours on it, but at this moment I liked Sea of Thieves because I'm not a social player like I used to be but all that's changing the more I get into it the game. No Man's Sky was basically a single player relaxing game and Sea of Thieves is a MP social game is how and why everyone is comparing it to No Man's Sky.

A site like Xbox Tavern gave it a 73 on metacritic.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/sea-of-thieves

So what's the point of owning an Xbone again? I can buy mediocre M$ games on my PC too so why spend an extra $500?

wow another great Xbox exclusive. 67 on Metacritic! just incredible. ?

67 metacritic. 5.8 user score. Watching lems try to defend this disaster is pretty darn amusing.

Yup, it’s a disaster. 4 years in the making and barely any content in the game and on top of that no progression. Makes you wonder what they were doing all this time. No way to spin it, this was the biggest announced MS exclusive for the year and it’s sitting at 67 on MC.

Gotta be really shameful for MS especially when you consider the time and effort they put into the game. GOW has spent an almost equal amount of time in the oven for Sony and you bet it will release to rave reviews and awards. Something is seriously wrong at MS Studios.

Wow, pretty impressive that Sea of Thieves is keeping up on the twitch charts battling with the free to play games. Seems like a lot of people are gravitating to the game. Rare crafted a great game with Sea of Thieves.

Seeing lots of great reviews on twitter, Rare has a gem on its hands and its only the beginning with more content coming. I knew Rare had somethin special when Sea of Thieves beta was closed, the twitch channels were still active with vod casts. The engagement numbers this game is drawing is impressive and will help it grow.

The game is technically free to play with the 14 day Game Pass free trial. Expect numbers to fall of a cliff after trials expire and 1 month memberships are over. I’m trying it myself and I have no intention of sticking around after my trial expires. The game isn’t worth the money they are asking for it.

Can you guys be honest for one minute, If Seas of Thieves had been a Nintendo Exclusive would it be getting this much hate?

If Sea of Thieves was release like this on a Nintendo platform, it would still get bashed. It doesn't matter if it's on MS, Sony or Nintendo, releasing a half-ass game will not be tolerated!

But in this case, knowing Nintendo, they wouldn't release such light content, hey make sure the game itself is fun and that's the Nintendo way. If this was also release on PS4 exclusive, I'll bad mouth them in a heartbeat.

I think it would't be getting this much bashing. From what I have heard and seen from the videos of people playing the game it is fun like most of Nintendo games are. The game is going to get more content in the future updates, Rare has said. This game is not a single player game. Sure they should have added more content but this game is like a blank canvas that you make you own adventures.

Does everyone get a 14 day trial? If so, is the download free?

@BigBadBully: People love watching a train wreck. When a games good, you play it, not watch others play it.

@xhawk27: Probably be getting more hate... Nintendo has a reputation to hold. Two 10's last year alone.

Everything the reviewers are saying is what I said during the alpha and beta, the game is shallow and ;;acks content but the lack of character progression is just horrific in a game thats meant to be a like a MMO every upgrade is cosmetic too so you cant even buy ship upgrades worth a damn.

Its not meant to be an MMORPG, but people are reviewing it as such. If you treat it team death match infused into a pirate setting and play it as such, instead of grinding for useless stuff... its a much much much more fulfilling experience.