Shadow Of The Digusting FLOP!

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#101 tgob89
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@fedor said:

@phbz: There is a bias and its clearly on xbox's side. Why else would so many xbox related pubs give it 9+? Clear bias and they should be ashamed of rating a mediocre game like its a can't miss title.

Not bias...different standards.

For xbox owners this is a clear 9.0 AAA game, but for PS4 owners...not so much.

People are used to better quality on the PS4 platform so of course it received a lower score to line up with peoples expectations.

May sound arrogant, but it's honestly how it is.

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#102 Bread_or_Decide
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I'm shocked it score so low. I'm a big fan of this series.

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#104  Edited By deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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@tgob89: It just sounds stupid to be honest.

You telling me that PlayStation LifeStyle gave it a 9 because they are used to play better games? Or IGN gave it an higher score than to Spider-Man because they don't play PS games?

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#105 tgob89
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@boycie:

lol you HAVE seen the new Tomb raider gameplay right?

Loading Video...

LMFAO at the AUTO-fail-safe jump at 1:36, Oh God!

I mean, just look at that...lol what more is there to say?

If that looks good to you just ignore the reviews and go balls deep.

Xbox fans are known to waste their money on dirt quality games why would this be any different lol. Never mind me and get the collectors edition of this AAAA gem of a title, a shoe in for GOTY 2018

/sarcasm over 9000

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#106 tgob89
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@phbz said:

@tgob89: It just sounds stupid to be honest.

You telling me that PlayStation LifeStyle gave it a 9 because they are used to play better games? Or IGN gave it an higher score than to Spider-Man because they don't play PS games?

We're looking at the average knuckle head...not picking and choosing individual reviews.

Learn to grasp the context of the discussion before attempting your deflection tactics.

The MC scores have been posted, refer to those to get the reference and stop desperately trying to dig for exceptions because the MC averages show the disparity lem.

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#108  Edited By ellos
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The review is quite harsh. This dude went straight to TR Reboots weakest part. Combat gameplay encounters have been shitty on all the games. The focus on stealth more now that Lara is a predator might not have been a good move. It did not look good. This dude probably watched ND Target polished demo of TLOUS 2 and expected that. Unfair to TR as every thing else looks improved.

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#109 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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@tgob89: On avarege I would say that your posts tend to sound stupid. ?

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#110  Edited By uninspiredcup
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The Eurogamer raises a good point, I've been complaining about the start, along with it's shitty game-play. She's a misery guts. The game is joyless torture porn.

It's been three games and this reboot has yet to show Lara exhibiting any real passion or enjoyment for what she does - it all comes across as a duty she's obligated to fulfil. Instead of focusing on the thrill of discovery and the wonder of far-flung forgotten corners of the world, this series was all about a contrived revenge story that no-one asked for. Shadow of the Tomb Raider's big problem, much like the two previous games, is that there's far too much darkness and not enough levity to relieve the tension and allow us to actually enjoy these characters or get to know them beyond their current predicament. What food does Lara like? What music does she listen to? How much could she absolutely clean up if she decided to chill out, open an Instagram account and be #blessed? I'm only half joking with the last one, but you get my point. Lara is athletic, she's smart, and she's unwaveringly heroic, but if she acted more like an actual human being and less like the Terminator with a Rosetta Stone plugin, the series would be much better for it.

On another note, the Telegraph complains about WHITE PEOPLE SAVIOUR! AHHHH

Jonah, Lara’s Polynesian friend and adventuring partner from the previous two games, exists here seemingly solely to assuage her white guilt. His only real contribution to Shadow of the Tomb Raider’s plot is to tell Lara that it’s fine when she steals prized cultural artifacts or kills thousands of innocent people, reminding her that her heart is in the right place.

Almost every other character in the game, too, interacts with Lara by parading in front of her justifying her actions. There are precisely two white people in the game, including Lara herself, which means dozens of people of colour seem to exist solely to make Lara feel better about herself. It is farcical.

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#111  Edited By deactivated-5c56012aaa167
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Wow. Why did the reviewers turn a 180 degree on this franchise ? (I didn't like the first one and imo it didn't deserve the high score that it got)

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#112 mowgly1
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@ribhu672 said:

On metacritic it's 83 for Xbox version based on 34 critics and 77 for PS4 based on 36 critics. Only 2 extra review are not enough to drop the ratings by 6 points.

So what's going on here? The ratings are vastly different based on platform here.

Xbone version doesn't have 4 from Telegraph, PS4 version doesn't have IGNs 9 score. Just one of the examples.

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#113 Archangel3371  Online
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Checked out a couple of reviews and considering that I loved the previous two games I’m sure I’ll love this one as well.

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#114 with_teeth26
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Reviews of these types of games rarely line up with reality for me.

I thought ROTR was a step down from the 2013 reboot, but it got better reviews.

Uncharted Lost Legacy got great reviews and I thought it was one of the most boring games i've ever played (and I liked UC4 for the most part).

I'm still a bit more interested in this than in Spiderman since its not open world, but I haven't really been feeling it from the start, especially with Edios Montreal developing it instead of Crystal Dynamics.

might pick it up this week if I can find a good deal somewhere, otherwise I'll wait for a sale.

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#115 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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That's the non ray traced version though... The RTX version of the game will easily score 9/10.

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#116 QuadKnight
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

That's the non ray traced version though... The RTX version of the game will easily score 9/10.

This made me lol harder than it should ?

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#117 Chutebox
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@uninspiredcup said:

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/shadow-of-the-tomb-raider-review-guerilla-girl/1900-6416982/

I can do this! oh oh oh, ah ah ah, this is hard.

Seriously...

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#118  Edited By BassMan
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

That's the non ray traced version though... The RTX version of the game will easily score 9/10.

Not at 1080p sub 60fps while only enhancing shadows. LOL at real time ray tracing in its current state.

Anyway, I really like these Tomb Raider games and 6/10 definitely seems low. I will play it regardless.

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#119 daredevils2k
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@KBFloYd said:
@koko-goal said:
@lnv said:
@daredevils2k said:

Well what did they expect when a TR releases like every 2 years. I’m glad it scored low, it teaches them a lesson to slow down and make a quality game like the uncharted series ?

3 years...And about that the last game was 2015

And by the way...

Uncharted- 2007

Uncharted 2-2009

Uncharted 3-2011

Last of Us - 2013

Uncharted 4- 2016

Last of Us 2-2019(?)

Wanna say another thing abou 2/3 years gap?

You forgot to list Uncharted The Lost Legacy.

yea dont forget golden abyss either

Then I stand corrected. I guess it just shows how far ahead Naughty Dog is when it comes to making a good game :)

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#120 with_teeth26
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the more I read/watch about this game, the more it sounds like the quality is pretty much in line with ROTR but with some improved stealth mechanics, more of a focus on tombs/puzzles and maybe less interesting/varied environments.

if you liked the last two games, you'll probably like this one as well.

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#121 nethernova
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@ghosts4ever said:

The score is still too high imo.

Your opinion is worthless though and you haven't played the game.

You play a woman with titties so you obviously hate it. Grow up.

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#122 Ghosts4ever
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@nethernova said:
@ghosts4ever said:

The score is still too high imo.

Your opinion is worthless though and you haven't played the game.

You play a woman with titties so you obviously hate it. Grow up.

But Portal is excellent.

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#123 deactivated-5fac80ec445f7
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5/10 and 6/10 flops all year.

Meanwhile PS has had 3 9/10 exclusives.

Xbox gamers aren't real gamers. They'd rather play utter disasters than some of the best games the industry has to offer.

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#124 Ghosts4ever
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@lemmingslayer said:

5/10 and 6/10 flops all year.

Meanwhile PS has had 3 9/10 exclusives.

Xbox gamers aren't real gamers. They'd rather play utter disasters than some of the best games the industry has to offer.

but not every one play casual childish superhero games.

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#125 LnV
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@lemmingslayer: 3?

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#126 DragonfireXZ95
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@fedor said:

@ghosts4ever: If they talked story in the review this dude would be whining about spoilers. The story in these games sucks anyway.

Yep, story is no good in these games. I did enjoy the gameplay in the previous entries, though. I pre-ordered for only 45 bucks on PC, so if it's not the greatest, I'm not too worried as long as I get at least 20 hours or so out of it like the previous games.

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#127 deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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@uninspiredcup said:

Just play original Tomb Raider 1/2.

Cheap and way better.

I found the legend trilogy good. Except for underworld. Did not like that one at all.

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#128  Edited By BlackBalls
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So this is bizzare. Xbone version has almost the same amount of reviews as the PS4 one but has almost 1 point ahead. Weird.

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#129 tormentos
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@boycie said:
@jcrame10 said:

IGN gave it a 9/10.

http://go.ign.com/AzEYz0d

A higher score than they game Spider-Man. I bet shit is exploding all over the walls on their forums.

IGN is know for shitty reviews both to high or too low.

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#130 nepu7supastar7
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@uninspiredcup:

Fuuuuck.....I already bought the Croft Edition preorder! ?

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#131 Fedor
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@nepu7supastar7: Live and learn.

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#132 That_Old_Guy
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Games were always a UNcharted copy-cat.

They just don’t have the skills like ND.

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#133 Sancho_Panzer
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@blackballs said:

So this is bizzare. Xbone version has almost the same amount of reviews as the PS4 one but has almost 1 point ahead. Weird.

To be fair, it does look pretty damn good on X1X.

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#134  Edited By nepu7supastar7
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@fedor:

ROFLMAO ? I can't return it either because it was on Xbox One Live store!! ???

**** it, I'm going to try to tough it out, anyway. It's Tomb Raider, how bad could it possibly be? Most of what the reviewer complained about was how little the game changed which I'm fine with. I'm sure I'll find SOME enjoyment out of it.

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#135 deactivated-5fac80ec445f7
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@ghosts4ever said:
@lemmingslayer said:

5/10 and 6/10 flops all year.

Meanwhile PS has had 3 9/10 exclusives.

Xbox gamers aren't real gamers. They'd rather play utter disasters than some of the best games the industry has to offer.

but not every one play casual childish superhero games.

If you had played Marvel's Spider-Man you would know that it is a bit more mature than past super hero games, but even so, knock that one off it still leaves plenty of great games for mature gamers - God of war being an example vs casual zombie trash like 5tate of decay, or kiddy garbage like Six of thieves.

So nice try son, nice try but you fail. You failed like xbox failed. You failed like sea of thieves failed. You failed like state of decay failed. You failed like tomb raider failed. Xbox is just one big web of failure.

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#136  Edited By deactivated-5fac80ec445f7
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@lnv said:

@lemmingslayer: 3?

Yes 3. Spider-man, god of war, shadow of the colossus.

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#138 Fedor
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@nepu7supastar7: If you liked the others in sure you'll at least find some enjoyment out of it. This seems a lot like the Arkham Origins situation.

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#139 Blackhairedhero
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@uninspiredcup: lol that telegraph review is cringe inducing.

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#140 Blackhairedhero
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@realgirl: Yes it is. Remakes are considered exclusive remasters are not. SoC is a remake.

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#142  Edited By ReCloud
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@realgirl said:
@blackhairedhero said:

@realgirl: Yes it is. Remakes are considered exclusive remasters are not. SoC is a remake.

It's not a remake, it's using the original engine for game logic and world geometry. There's two engines operating simultaneously, it's no different than what's happening with Halo 2 Anniversary for example, the only difference being in SotC you can't switch between graphics engines.

Can you play SOTC PS4 on PS3 or PS2? No, so it's an exclusive. LOL.

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#145 Blackhairedhero
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@realgirl: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-14-shadow-of-the-colossus-on-ps4-is-a-remake-not-a-remaster-says-shuhei-yoshida

I'm sorry but this can't be anymore clear and no it doesn't use the same engine. All the assets are remodeled. You said it used the same geometry? Lol have you seen the two side by side? There is no way.

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#147 PSP107
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@Zero_epyon:"Spiderman is only 20 hours long, I beat it in 2 days."

lol

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#148 Blackhairedhero
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@realgirl: Ok.. and it's a remake. By SW rules it counts.

Ratchet and Clank and Shadow of Colossus count as PS4 exclusives.

TLoU and GoW3 do not.

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#149 ReCloud
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@realgirl said:
@recloud said:
@realgirl said:
@blackhairedhero said:

@realgirl: Yes it is. Remakes are considered exclusive remasters are not. SoC is a remake.

It's not a remake, it's using the original engine for game logic and world geometry. There's two engines operating simultaneously, it's no different than what's happening with Halo 2 Anniversary for example, the only difference being in SotC you can't switch between graphics engines.

Can you play SOTC PS4 on PS3 or PS2? No, so it's an exclusive. LOL.

And Halo 2: Anniversary is on Xbox One, that doesn't make it an exclusive, it's still Halo 2.

Says who?

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#150  Edited By ReCloud
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@realgirl said:
@blackhairedhero said:

@realgirl: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-14-shadow-of-the-colossus-on-ps4-is-a-remake-not-a-remaster-says-shuhei-yoshida

I'm sorry but this can't be anymore clear and no it doesn't use the same engine. All the assets are remodeled. You said it used the same geometry? Lol have you seen the two side by side? There is no way.

It uses the original engine in conjunction with the Blue Point engine, the original engine handles all the game logic and so on while the new handles the sound and rendering. I didn't say scene geometry, I said world geometry, the positioning of walls, pillars etc so everything lines up with their location in the original.

So, according to this logic, BB on PS Now is a PS4 exclusive, since it uses the BB engine and the game is being rendered by the PS4 server and then it's being transmitted to the PC screen.

Thanks for the clarification.