should MS really be talking down to sony when 3rod is still a major problem?

Sony is still the brand leader as far as I'm concerned.

PS2? Still outsells the 360.
PS3? Recently started outselling the 360, and surpassed it in Europe - not to mention Japan.
PSP? I dunno if it outsells the DS, but it's certainly taken away market share. I think it is outselling the DS in Japan right now.

3 out of 4 Playstation products giving stiff competition.

(I didnt include the Wii since it's not directly competing with either)

carljohnson3456

Last I heard the 360 was up 248% on Amazon due to GTA IV and is 1.5 million units ahead of the PS3 in Europe.

That doesn't make th PS3 market leader.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="kuu2"]When you go from the incumbent to the last place system by a wide margin I would say you deserve all the whiping you get.carljohnson3456

Well you arent going to come out the gate a year behind in first place are you???

why not nintendo pulled it off

The same reason the Xbox didnt, or the Gamecube, or the N64. We can all agree Nintendo's Wii success is pretty amazing and has only ever happened once so let's not play dumb and pretend that's the norm.

It's funny how no one remembers how long M$ was on the market before the PS3 was released. I for one would like to see what these people will say when the PS3 passes the 360 within the next year or so.

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

Sony is still the brand leader as far as I'm concerned.

PS2? Still outsells the 360.
PS3? Recently started outselling the 360, and surpassed it in Europe - not to mention Japan.
PSP? I dunno if it outsells the DS, but it's certainly taken away market share. I think it is outselling the DS in Japan right now.

3 out of 4 Playstation products giving stiff competition.

(I didnt include the Wii since it's not directly competing with either)

station124

Last I heard the 360 was up 248% on Amazon due to GTA IV and is 1.5 million units ahead of the PS3 in Europe.

That doesn't make th PS3 market leader.

Last I heard the 360 was only 5 million units ahead of the PS3 (Greenburg said that) and the PS3 overtook the 360 in Europe (Sony said that at Playstation Day or whatever).

I didnt say the PS3 was the market leader either, I said Sony is. :D

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

thetruespin

Oddly enough it seems the only people who talk aboit it don't own 360s.

[QUOTE="station124"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

Sony is still the brand leader as far as I'm concerned.

PS2? Still outsells the 360.
PS3? Recently started outselling the 360, and surpassed it in Europe - not to mention Japan.
PSP? I dunno if it outsells the DS, but it's certainly taken away market share. I think it is outselling the DS in Japan right now.

3 out of 4 Playstation products giving stiff competition.

(I didnt include the Wii since it's not directly competing with either)

carljohnson3456

Last I heard the 360 was up 248% on Amazon due to GTA IV and is 1.5 million units ahead of the PS3 in Europe.

That doesn't make th PS3 market leader.

Last I heard the 360 was only 5 million units ahead of the PS3 (Greenburg said that) and the PS3 overtook the 360 in Europe (Sony said that at Playstation Day or whatever).

I didnt say the PS3 was the market leader either, I said Sony is. :D

20 million units is more than 5 million units more than 11 million units.

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

thetruespin

When all else fails talk about no games (the PS3's got 'em), high price (PS3 costs less than elite, $50 higher than pro), worse online (free, home and in-game XMB coming soon), and now the best one - broken promises!!!

I'd take a broken promise over a broken console anyday. The RROD is just as valid as any of those, actually more valid. At least alot of the PS3 complaints are opinions - the RROD is a pure fact of the matter.

Werent you the one claiming the PS3 was underpowered? Ha, yeah - no wonder you want to look over the RROD.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="station124"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

Sony is still the brand leader as far as I'm concerned.

PS2? Still outsells the 360.
PS3? Recently started outselling the 360, and surpassed it in Europe - not to mention Japan.
PSP? I dunno if it outsells the DS, but it's certainly taken away market share. I think it is outselling the DS in Japan right now.

3 out of 4 Playstation products giving stiff competition.

(I didnt include the Wii since it's not directly competing with either)

station124

Last I heard the 360 was up 248% on Amazon due to GTA IV and is 1.5 million units ahead of the PS3 in Europe.

That doesn't make th PS3 market leader.

Last I heard the 360 was only 5 million units ahead of the PS3 (Greenburg said that) and the PS3 overtook the 360 in Europe (Sony said that at Playstation Day or whatever).

I didnt say the PS3 was the market leader either, I said Sony is. :D

20 million units is more than 5 million units more than 11 million units.

You're right, if that's the case then someone cant do basic math - Greenburg, which is why I said GREENBURG said 5 million units. ;)

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

station124

Oddly enough it seems the only people who talk aboit it don't own 360s.

agreed.

It always happens... everytime ps3 fanboys get annoyed that everything still sucks for them, out comes the RROD argument. MS messed up... but it is a borderline non-issue nowadays.

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

carljohnson3456

When all else fails talk about no games (the PS3's got 'em), high price (PS3 costs less than elite, $50 higher than pro), worse online (free, home and in-game XMB coming soon), and now the best one - broken promises!!!

I'd take a broken promise over a broken console anyday. The RROD is just as valid as any of those, actually more valid. At least alot of the PS3 complaints are opinions - the RROD is a pure fact of the matter.

Werent you the one claiming the PS3 was underpowered? Ha, yeah - no wonder you want to look over the RROD.

I was once you. Believe me I was.

But I've seen the light.

Don't keep on supporting the weaker platform out of nostalgia.

The 360 IMO is giving the PS3 a run for its money and I am starting believe that I bought the wrong console.

In any event I'll be purchasing MS product in the near future.

[QUOTE="station124"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

thetruespin

Oddly enough it seems the only people who talk aboit it don't own 360s.

agreed.

It always happens... everytime ps3 fanboys get annoyed that everything still sucks for them, out comes the RROD argument. MS messed up... but it is a borderline non-issue nowadays.

Oops! Guess I'm the only PS3 fan with a 360 that's RROD'd then!

I agree to an extent - alot of people lie about having RROD 360's, and talk about the RROD 360 without ever owning one. I'm one in a million I guess. 8)

I actually probably wouldnt have bought the PS3 so quick if it wasnt for my 360 dieing on me. Of course I got it back, but why should I put more money into the console when I have no faith in it's reliability?

i agree

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

station124

When all else fails talk about no games (the PS3's got 'em), high price (PS3 costs less than elite, $50 higher than pro), worse online (free, home and in-game XMB coming soon), and now the best one - broken promises!!!

I'd take a broken promise over a broken console anyday. The RROD is just as valid as any of those, actually more valid. At least alot of the PS3 complaints are opinions - the RROD is a pure fact of the matter.

Werent you the one claiming the PS3 was underpowered? Ha, yeah - no wonder you want to look over the RROD.

I was once you. Believe me I was.

But I've seen the light.

Don't keep on supporting the weaker platform out of nostalgia.

The 360 IMO is giving the PS3 a run for its money and I am starting believe that I bought the wrong console.

In any event I'll be purchasing MS product in the near future.

No, I was once you. Believe me I was. I bought a 360, joined the XBox.com forums, started purchasing accessories left and right - then, my console failed.

Then, in August of last year the PS3 was cut to $500 and 60 GB was getting phazed out so I snatched one up. Like I said, if the 360 wasnt so faulty I might have held off on buying a PS3 for awhile. I dont regret it.

[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="station124"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

carljohnson3456

Oddly enough it seems the only people who talk aboit it don't own 360s.

agreed.

It always happens... everytime ps3 fanboys get annoyed that everything still sucks for them, out comes the RROD argument. MS messed up... but it is a borderline non-issue nowadays.

Oops! Guess I'm the only PS3 fan with a 360 that's RROD'd then!

I agree to an extent - alot of people lie about having RROD 360's, and talk about the RROD 360 without ever owning one. I'm one in a million I guess. 8)

I actually probably wouldnt have bought the PS3 so quick if it wasnt for my 360 dieing on me. Of course I got it back, but why should I put more money into the console when I have no faith in it's reliability?

Just thought I'd back you up here:

For the record I am both a PS3 and a 360 fan and I got the RROD twice. In 1 year. I try to avoid bringing it up because it's like beating a dead horse at this point- just like "Just wait" and "No games"!

I guess complaining about RROD is taboo but complaning about "No games" is just fine and dandy, right Lems?

[QUOTE="station124"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

carljohnson3456

When all else fails talk about no games (the PS3's got 'em), high price (PS3 costs less than elite, $50 higher than pro), worse online (free, home and in-game XMB coming soon), and now the best one - broken promises!!!

I'd take a broken promise over a broken console anyday. The RROD is just as valid as any of those, actually more valid. At least alot of the PS3 complaints are opinions - the RROD is a pure fact of the matter.

Werent you the one claiming the PS3 was underpowered? Ha, yeah - no wonder you want to look over the RROD.

I was once you. Believe me I was.

But I've seen the light.

Don't keep on supporting the weaker platform out of nostalgia.

The 360 IMO is giving the PS3 a run for its money and I am starting believe that I bought the wrong console.

In any event I'll be purchasing MS product in the near future.

No, I was once you. Believe me I was. I bought a 360, joined the XBox.com forums, started purchasing accessories left and right - then, my console failed.

Then, in August of last year the PS3 was cut to $500 and 60 GB was getting phazed out so I snatched one up. Like I said, if the 360 wasnt so faulty I might have held off on buying a PS3 for awhile. I dont regret it.

I hear in August they'll hace the Jasper chips.

No better time to get a 360 and have it RROD than now. Just think of it. A brand new 360 for FREE, complete with 47nm cool chips inside...

even more reliable than the newest PS3 and guaranteed for 3 whole years... for FREE....

Only idiots frown upon that

[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]*sigh* Land sakes, you'd think the free repair charges and the new, improved SKUs didn't exist. And I'm now truly convinced that this is the ONLY fallback Sony fans can use. One rebutal for about twenty or so provided by Aaron.Verge_6

I'm without an X360 for an entire week.

I'm at "Out of Commission" on GTA4 FOR GODSAKES!

I have a right to be pissed off at Microsoft right now.

You'd rather they charge you for the repairs ala Sony? :?

wut? they never charged me :|

[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="station124"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

carljohnson3456

Oddly enough it seems the only people who talk aboit it don't own 360s.

agreed.

It always happens... everytime ps3 fanboys get annoyed that everything still sucks for them, out comes the RROD argument. MS messed up... but it is a borderline non-issue nowadays.

Oops! Guess I'm the only PS3 fan with a 360 that's RROD'd then!

I agree to an extent - alot of people lie about having RROD 360's, and talk about the RROD 360 without ever owning one. I'm one in a million I guess. 8)

I actually probably wouldnt have bought the PS3 so quick if it wasnt for my 360 dieing on me. Of course I got it back, but why should I put more money into the console when I have no faith in it's reliability?

No one is saying the RROD didnt exist and, to some extent, still occurs today. However, the rates of failure are far more acceptable (although I agree it seems the ps3 still has the advantage in this area) and the whole RROD thing on SW is mostly kept alive by ps3 fanboys.

If I was buying a car or something worth thousands of pounds/ dollars then I may be more concerned over reliability... but when new consoles seem fine and we're talking about less than £200, i'd rather take my chances at having to replace a system (which MS does for free btw) than having a very reliable system that is about as enjoyable as an over powered calculator.

In MY experience... MY 360 has never died... my friends 360's have never died. I hear about it a LOT on SW... but I have never actually seen one myself. Am I worried... no

honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.ninjaxams

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

************************************************

I know, because Sony hasn't acted desperate at all... Nope, never. And nothing MS says about Sony is true. Mkay.................. /sarcasm gtforolo107

You mean like the TWO prices drops then had in less then 6 months, just so they could actually sell some PS3's? Even with Blue-Ray winning the format wars, the Wii continue to outsell the PS3 almost 2:1 worldwide. That's hilarious. Even if the PS3 finally catches the XBox 360, it'll take them 10yrs to catch the Wii.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="station124"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

station124

When all else fails talk about no games (the PS3's got 'em), high price (PS3 costs less than elite, $50 higher than pro), worse online (free, home and in-game XMB coming soon), and now the best one - broken promises!!!

I'd take a broken promise over a broken console anyday. The RROD is just as valid as any of those, actually more valid. At least alot of the PS3 complaints are opinions - the RROD is a pure fact of the matter.

Werent you the one claiming the PS3 was underpowered? Ha, yeah - no wonder you want to look over the RROD.

I was once you. Believe me I was.

But I've seen the light.

Don't keep on supporting the weaker platform out of nostalgia.

The 360 IMO is giving the PS3 a run for its money and I am starting believe that I bought the wrong console.

In any event I'll be purchasing MS product in the near future.

No, I was once you. Believe me I was. I bought a 360, joined the XBox.com forums, started purchasing accessories left and right - then, my console failed.

Then, in August of last year the PS3 was cut to $500 and 60 GB was getting phazed out so I snatched one up. Like I said, if the 360 wasnt so faulty I might have held off on buying a PS3 for awhile. I dont regret it.

I hear in August they'll hace the Jasper chips.

No better time to get a 360 and have it RROD than now. Just think of it. A brand new 360 for FREE, complete with 47nm cool chips inside...

even more reliable than the newest PS3.

3 year warranty for RROD. My PS3's Blu-ray drive stopped reading discs after the 1 year warranty was up, so if I wouldn't have bought an extended warranty through Best Buy, I would've had to send it off to Sony and pay over $100 for the repair. **** breaks, get used to it. Just make sure you're covered.BioShockOwnz

yup my blu ray drive just died, but its been just under a year thank god. My 360 on the other hand broke down after 2 and half years, so the 360 actually lasted longer.

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.blackace

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

MS handled the RROD issue very well and was very good at replacing . repairing consoles... it should never have happened to begin with.. but when it did at least it was dealt with well. I'd rather replace 360's (which I have never done) than put up with substandard ports, average 1st party games, endless delays, overpriced hardware, the useless cell and ... god... i could go on forever.

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.blackace

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

I said it before, I'll say it again. As an owner of both, I can stomach the broken lies of not all games being 1080p better than I can stomach a broken console.

[QUOTE="station124"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="station124"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

lol... the classic... when all else fails talk about the RROD....

carljohnson3456

When all else fails talk about no games (the PS3's got 'em), high price (PS3 costs less than elite, $50 higher than pro), worse online (free, home and in-game XMB coming soon), and now the best one - broken promises!!!

I'd take a broken promise over a broken console anyday. The RROD is just as valid as any of those, actually more valid. At least alot of the PS3 complaints are opinions - the RROD is a pure fact of the matter.

Werent you the one claiming the PS3 was underpowered? Ha, yeah - no wonder you want to look over the RROD.

I was once you. Believe me I was.

But I've seen the light.

Don't keep on supporting the weaker platform out of nostalgia.

The 360 IMO is giving the PS3 a run for its money and I am starting believe that I bought the wrong console.

In any event I'll be purchasing MS product in the near future.

No, I was once you. Believe me I was. I bought a 360, joined the XBox.com forums, started purchasing accessories left and right - then, my console failed.

Then, in August of last year the PS3 was cut to $500 and 60 GB was getting phazed out so I snatched one up. Like I said, if the 360 wasnt so faulty I might have held off on buying a PS3 for awhile. I dont regret it.

I hear in August they'll hace the Jasper chips.

No better time to get a 360 and have it RROD than now. Just think of it. A brand new 360 for FREE, complete with 47nm cool chips inside...

even more reliable than the newest PS3.

They give you a brand new machine. So if your RRODs today you'll get a falcon.

If it RRODs after August you'll get a Jasper.

That won't RROD.

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.carljohnson3456

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

I said it before, I'll say it again. As an owner of both, I can stomach the broken lies of not all games being 1080p better than I can stomach a broken console.

what about endless waiting?

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.blackace

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

************************************************

I know, because Sony hasn't acted desperate at all... Nope, never. And nothing MS says about Sony is true. Mkay.................. /sarcasm gtforolo107

You mean like the TWO prices drops then had in less then 6 months, just so they could actually sell some PS3's? Even with Blue-Ray winning the format wars, the Wii continue to outsell the PS3 almost 2:1 worldwide. That's hilarious. Even if the PS3 finally catches the XBox 360, it'll take them 10yrs to catch the Wii.

Indeed, I don't see how the RROD issue somehow makes the unfulfilled promises by Sony somehow disappear. Cows, hiding behind the RROD issue since 2005. :|

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.thetruespin

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

MS handled the RROD issue very well and was very good at replacing . repairing consoles... it should never have happened to begin with.. but when it did at least it was dealt with well. I'd rather replace 360's (which I have never done) than put up with substandard ports, average 1st party games, endless delays, overpriced hardware, the useless cell and ... god... i could go on forever.

Multiplats are not "substandard ports" anymore - first 9 months for PS3's first year - yeah. Starting with Assassin's Creed, most games are even now. Average 1st party games? Your opinion, not mine. Endless delays? Eh, it's annoying but I'm enjoying plenty of games now. Overpriced hardware? You must mean the 360, $100 WiFi, $50 for online play, $100 20GB HDD FTW!!! The useless cell? Hahahaha what? It's part of the power behind the PS3. That's like complaining about useless mother boards in the 360.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.thetruespin

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

I said it before, I'll say it again. As an owner of both, I can stomach the broken lies of not all games being 1080p better than I can stomach a broken console.

what about endless waiting?

Ok, I'll give you that, but I'm not really aching from it. I'm still playing COD4 everynight and GTA4 everyday. Should I really sit around and moap about how Killzone 2 is delayed until Febuary?

[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.carljohnson3456

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

MS handled the RROD issue very well and was very good at replacing . repairing consoles... it should never have happened to begin with.. but when it did at least it was dealt with well. I'd rather replace 360's (which I have never done) than put up with substandard ports, average 1st party games, endless delays, overpriced hardware, the useless cell and ... god... i could go on forever.

Multiplats are not "substandard ports" anymore - first 9 months for PS3's first year - yeah. Starting with Assassin's Creed, most games are even now. Average 1st party games? Your opinion, not mine. Endless delays? Eh, it's annoying but I'm enjoying plenty of games now. Overpriced hardware? You must mean the 360, $100 WiFi, $50 for online play, $100 20GB HDD FTW!!! The useless cell? Hahahaha what? It's part of the power behind the PS3. That's like complaining about useless mother boards in the 360.

Also GTA IV crashes more on the PS3.

If you cut throughthe biases and favoritism, you can see, the PS3 is the weaker system, but some people don't want to admit it.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

:lol: cracks me up that this is really the only thing cows can say. Sad thing is just how much of a knee-jerk reaction to any topic it has become. I am sure only reason this thread was made was because Gears 2 footage was shown. How about the new chips and the extended warrenty.

PS3 still has no AAAE games.....but rrod

360's online is much better then PS3's...but rrod

360 has double the AAA and AA games then the PS3...but rrod

PS3 has had delay after delay after delays...but rrod

Home has pretty much become vaporware at this point...but..rrod

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so the sorry excuse you adopt for a faulty unreliable hardware is an extended warranty... thats nice.. and lemmings defend MS for that !!!!

so a good game is judged by the no. of A's it gets from reviewers... ohh thats interesting, so if FFXIII gets 10/10 and a guy really hates rpg's you think it makes any difference... or if Uncharted got a 2/10 mark you think i would have enjoyed less that beautiful, action packed game ??? eeehh lemmings lemmings lemmings...

Malta_1980

Microsoft has already address the RROD several times. Where have you been? Under a rock the past year. You guys keep brining up RROD and Microsoft is already fixing the issue. You COW keep acting like the problem hasn't been addressed. IT HAS. Several #$%#&*^ times by M$. They offered 3 year Warranty. They added a cooper cooling rod and a cooler CPU. They will be bringing out the cooler GPU (Jasper) in Sept to fix the RROD permanently. The RROD has been addressed, so please give it a REST. Yes, it gets defended my lemmings because the issue is already been worked on, yet this is the only things COWS can bring up against the XBox 360. Very sad. When is Sony's going to address all those #$%@& delays and broken promises they've made over the last 2 years? When are they going to release a AAAE game for goodness sake? It's been almost 2 years. When is Sony going to offer movies, T.V. and music downloads on their PSN network? They own lots of music and movies, so why don't we have that yet?

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.carljohnson3456

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

I said it before, I'll say it again. As an owner of both, I can stomach the broken lies of not all games being 1080p better than I can stomach a broken console.

The difference is the broken console can be fixed, the broken promises and lies can't. ;)

When my 360 RROD I just swapped it out at Wal-Mart. Took only 48hrs. :P

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.station124

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

MS handled the RROD issue very well and was very good at replacing . repairing consoles... it should never have happened to begin with.. but when it did at least it was dealt with well. I'd rather replace 360's (which I have never done) than put up with substandard ports, average 1st party games, endless delays, overpriced hardware, the useless cell and ... god... i could go on forever.

Multiplats are not "substandard ports" anymore - first 9 months for PS3's first year - yeah. Starting with Assassin's Creed, most games are even now. Average 1st party games? Your opinion, not mine. Endless delays? Eh, it's annoying but I'm enjoying plenty of games now. Overpriced hardware? You must mean the 360, $100 WiFi, $50 for online play, $100 20GB HDD FTW!!! The useless cell? Hahahaha what? It's part of the power behind the PS3. That's like complaining about useless mother boards in the 360.

Also GTA IV crashes more on the PS3.

If you cut throughthe biases and favoritism, you can see, the PS3 is the weaker system, but some people don't want to admit it.

Uh no, if I was biased I wouldnt own a 360 but still proclaime the PS3 is better. I base my opinion on my experinces, not what I read. I said multiplats were "pretty even", not completely equal. And if COD4 looks better on the 360, it is very, very mariginal and hardly worth mentioning. Alot of people said Burnout Paradise and GTA4 look better on the PS3 - is that even worth mentioning?

Talk about GTA4 crashes more on the PS3? How about the 360 crashes more than the PS3 - period.

[QUOTE="station124"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.carljohnson3456

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

MS handled the RROD issue very well and was very good at replacing . repairing consoles... it should never have happened to begin with.. but when it did at least it was dealt with well. I'd rather replace 360's (which I have never done) than put up with substandard ports, average 1st party games, endless delays, overpriced hardware, the useless cell and ... god... i could go on forever.

Multiplats are not "substandard ports" anymore - first 9 months for PS3's first year - yeah. Starting with Assassin's Creed, most games are even now. Average 1st party games? Your opinion, not mine. Endless delays? Eh, it's annoying but I'm enjoying plenty of games now. Overpriced hardware? You must mean the 360, $100 WiFi, $50 for online play, $100 20GB HDD FTW!!! The useless cell? Hahahaha what? It's part of the power behind the PS3. That's like complaining about useless mother boards in the 360.

Also GTA IV crashes more on the PS3.

If you cut throughthe biases and favoritism, you can see, the PS3 is the weaker system, but some people don't want to admit it.

Uh no, if I was biased I wouldnt own a 360 but still proclaime the PS3 is better. I base my opinion on my experinces, not what I read. I said multiplats were "pretty even", not completely equal. And if COD4 looks better on the 360, it is very, very mariginal and hardly worth mentioning. Alot of people said Burnout Paradise and GTA4 look better on the PS3 - is that even worth mentioning?

Talk about GTA4 crashes more on the PS3? How about the 360 crashes more than the PS3 - period.

I'm trying to help you. I'm telling you., The sooner you accept the truth, the happier you'll be .It';s over.

MS defeated Sony.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]honostly, what the hell have they got to say? "OMG wheres teh homz at roflz???" or "LOL, 5 mins installz LOLOLOL." LAME.........try fixing your faulty hardware before you open your mouths again.blackace

The thing is, RROD isn't a major problem anymore. The cool CPU and cooper rod that was added to the newer XBox 360 has reduced RROD. It's not as common as it was previous. When the Jasper comes out in Sept, RROD will be a thing of the past.

Tell Sony to try and stop making promises they can't keep. :lol: HOME will be out Spring 2008. :lol: "Most of the PS3 games will be 1080p resolution." :lol: At least M$ offers solutions to RROD and has made strides to correct the problem. What has Sony offered their fans besides broken promises and lies? Ohh.. more delays, that's right. :lol:

I said it before, I'll say it again. As an owner of both, I can stomach the broken lies of not all games being 1080p better than I can stomach a broken console.

The difference is the broken console can be fixed, the broken promises and lies can't. ;)

When my 360 RROD I just swapped it out at Wal-Mart. Took only 48hrs. :P

lol But I didnt buy the PS3 for those promises of 1080p gaming, or any of those other lies. Anybody who expected a gaming console that does 120 FPS, 4D graphics and tells you how your hair looks to boot was fooling themselves.

Sorry, but I really felt more dissapointed watching my $400 console die than I did when I realized Resistance wasnt 1080p.

Just get over it.

I'm trying to help you. I'm telling you., The sooner you accept the truth, the happier you'll be .It';s over.

MS defeated Sony.

station124

lol You're thinking on such a fanboy level I cant even reply with legit statements.

MS defeated Sony? How so? Did Microsoft and Sony hold a charity basketball game I missed out on? And should that change my opinion that based on the time I've had with both consoles I still choose my PS3?

[QUOTE="station124"]Just get over it.

I'm trying to help you. I'm telling you., The sooner you accept the truth, the happier you'll be .It';s over.

MS defeated Sony.

carljohnson3456

lol You're thinking on such a fanboy level I cant even reply with legit statements.

MS defeated Sony? How so? Did Microsoft and Sony hold a charity basketball game I missed out on? And should that change my opinion that based on the time I've had with both consoles I still choose my PS3?

Look atr my screenname!!!

I'm only telling you what Ive come to accept and that is the 360 is stronger than the PS3.

I know people don't like to hear it, but... there it is. What can you do about it?

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

:lol: cracks me up that this is really the only thing cows can say. Sad thing is just how much of a knee-jerk reaction to any topic it has become. I am sure only reason this thread was made was because Gears 2 footage was shown. How about the new chips and the extended warrenty.

PS3 still has no AAAE games.....but rrod

360's online is much better then PS3's...but rrod

360 has double the AAA and AA games then the PS3...but rrod

PS3 has had delay after delay after delays...but rrod

Home has pretty much become vaporware at this point...but..rrod

[/QUOTE

so the sorry excuse you adopt for a faulty unreliable hardware is an extended warranty... thats nice.. and lemmings defend MS for that !!!!

so a good game is judged by the no. of A's it gets from reviewers... ohh thats interesting, so if FFXIII gets 10/10 and a guy really hates rpg's you think it makes any difference... or if Uncharted got a 2/10 mark you think i would have enjoyed less that beautiful, action packed game ??? eeehh lemmings lemmings lemmings...

blackace

Microsoft has already address the RROD several times. Where have you been? Under a rock the past year. You guys keep brining up RROD and Microsoft is already fixing the issue. You COW keep acting like the problem hasn't been addressed. IT HAS. Several #$%#&*^ times by M$. They offered 3 year Warranty. They added a cooper cooling rod and a cooler CPU. They will be bringing out the cooler GPU (Jasper) in Sept to fix the RROD permanently. The RROD has been addressed, so please give it a REST. Yes, it gets defended my lemmings because the issue is already been worked on, yet this is the only things COWS can bring up against the XBox 360. Very sad. When is Sony's going to address all those #$%@& delays and broken promises they've made over the last 2 years? When are they going to release a AAAE game for goodness sake? It's been almost 2 years. When is Sony going to offer movies, T.V. and music downloads on their PSN network? They own lots of music and movies, so why don't we have that yet?

Lemmings always bring up the lame "JUST WAIT" arguement. Your point?

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="station124"]Just get over it.

I'm trying to help you. I'm telling you., The sooner you accept the truth, the happier you'll be .It';s over.

MS defeated Sony.

station124

lol You're thinking on such a fanboy level I cant even reply with legit statements.

MS defeated Sony? How so? Did Microsoft and Sony hold a charity basketball game I missed out on? And should that change my opinion that based on the time I've had with both consoles I still choose my PS3?

Look atr my screenname!!!

I'm only telling you what Ive come to accept and that is the 360 is stronger than the PS3.

I know people don't like to hear it, but... there it is. What can you do about it?

lol Oh I'm sorry - you're a born-again fanboy. That's fine and dandy, but the 360 isnt "stronger" than the PS3. You cant state that as a fact, it's an opinion.

My opinion, I like the PS3 better.
Your opinion, you like the 360 better.

What can you do about it?

[QUOTE="station124"]Just get over it.

I'm trying to help you. I'm telling you., The sooner you accept the truth, the happier you'll be .It';s over.

MS defeated Sony.

carljohnson3456

lol You're thinking on such a fanboy level I cant even reply with legit statements.

MS defeated Sony? How so? Did Microsoft and Sony hold a charity basketball game I missed out on? And should that change my opinion that based on the time I've had with both consoles I still choose my PS3?

:lol::lol::lol: Ah, that cracked me up.

So MS defeated Sony, huh, "station124"? Yes, I seem to recall the Xbox 360 outselling the PS3 worldwide last year. And the Xbox 360 has indeed been outselling the PS3 EVERYWHERE since 2008 started, right? Even though the PS3 has had a price cut and the 360 hasn't?

Wait a minute........

[QUOTE="station124"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="station124"]Just get over it.

I'm trying to help you. I'm telling you., The sooner you accept the truth, the happier you'll be .It';s over.

MS defeated Sony.

carljohnson3456

lol You're thinking on such a fanboy level I cant even reply with legit statements.

MS defeated Sony? How so? Did Microsoft and Sony hold a charity basketball game I missed out on? And should that change my opinion that based on the time I've had with both consoles I still choose my PS3?

Look atr my screenname!!!

I'm only telling you what Ive come to accept and that is the 360 is stronger than the PS3.

I know people don't like to hear it, but... there it is. What can you do about it?

lol Oh I'm sorry - you're a born-again fanboy. That's fine and dandy, but the 360 isnt "stronger" than the PS3. You cant state that as a fact, it's an opinion.

My opinion, I like the PS3 better.
Your opinion, you like the 360 better.

What can you do about it?

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="station124"]Just get over it.

I'm trying to help you. I'm telling you., The sooner you accept the truth, the happier you'll be .It';s over.

MS defeated Sony.

Floppy_Jim

lol You're thinking on such a fanboy level I cant even reply with legit statements.

MS defeated Sony? How so? Did Microsoft and Sony hold a charity basketball game I missed out on? And should that change my opinion that based on the time I've had with both consoles I still choose my PS3?

:lol::lol::lol: Ah, that cracked me up.

So MS defeated Sony, huh, "station124"? Yes, I seem to recall the Xbox 360 outselling the PS3 worldwide last year. And the Xbox 360 has indeed been outselling the PS3 EVERYWHERE since 2008 started, right? Even though the PS3 has had a price cut and the 360 hasn't?

Wait a minute........

Ah you better stop Floppy, the truth might be too much for 'em.

"MS defeated Sony" - Quote of the day. (Not to say Sony defeated MS, it's just the fact he acts like it's so cut and dry when it's really a matter of opinion. :lol:)

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="station124"]Just get over it.

I'm trying to help you. I'm telling you., The sooner you accept the truth, the happier you'll be .It';s over.

MS defeated Sony.

carljohnson3456

lol You're thinking on such a fanboy level I cant even reply with legit statements.

MS defeated Sony? How so? Did Microsoft and Sony hold a charity basketball game I missed out on? And should that change my opinion that based on the time I've had with both consoles I still choose my PS3?

:lol::lol::lol: Ah, that cracked me up.

So MS defeated Sony, huh, "station124"? Yes, I seem to recall the Xbox 360 outselling the PS3 worldwide last year. And the Xbox 360 has indeed been outselling the PS3 EVERYWHERE since 2008 started, right? Even though the PS3 has had a price cut and the 360 hasn't?

Wait a minute........

Ah you better stop Floppy, the truth might be too much for 'em.

"MS defeated Sony" - Quote of the day. (Not to say Sony defeated MS, it's just the fact he acts like it's so cut and dry when it's really a matter of opinion. :lol:)

Yeah, I mean really, how have MS beaten Sony? 2007 is seen as the 360's "BIG" year and a terrible year for Sony- yet Sony still beat MS in worldwide sales.

I suppose you could say MS have beaten Sony in terms of game library (thanks to MR. 1 year head-start) but that's still a matter of opinion as you said- you can't proclaim it to be a fact.

:lol: Christ, I dunno, some of the people on here......

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="station124"]Just get over it.

I'm trying to help you. I'm telling you., The sooner you accept the truth, the happier you'll be .It';s over.

MS defeated Sony.

Floppy_Jim

lol You're thinking on such a fanboy level I cant even reply with legit statements.

MS defeated Sony? How so? Did Microsoft and Sony hold a charity basketball game I missed out on? And should that change my opinion that based on the time I've had with both consoles I still choose my PS3?

:lol::lol::lol: Ah, that cracked me up.

So MS defeated Sony, huh, "station124"? Yes, I seem to recall the Xbox 360 outselling the PS3 worldwide last year. And the Xbox 360 has indeed been outselling the PS3 EVERYWHERE since 2008 started, right? Even though the PS3 has had a price cut and the 360 hasn't?

Wait a minute........

joke?? because your very wrong

edit: never mind

lol But I didnt buy the PS3 for those promises of 1080p gaming, or any of those other lies. Anybody who expected a gaming console that does 120 FPS, 4D graphics and tells you how your hair looks to boot was fooling themselves.

Sorry, but I really felt more dissapointed watching my $400 console die than I did when I realized Resistance wasnt 1080p.

carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]*sigh* Land sakes, you'd think the free repair charges and the new, improved SKUs didn't exist. And I'm now truly convinced that this is the ONLY fallback Sony fans can use. One rebutal for about twenty or so provided by Aaron.BioShockOwnz

I thought you sold your 360...

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

:lol: cracks me up that this is really the only thing cows can say. Sad thing is just how much of a knee-jerk reaction to any topic it has become. I am sure only reason this thread was made was because Gears 2 footage was shown. How about the new chips and the extended warrenty.

PS3 still has no AAAE games.....but rrod

360's online is much better then PS3's...but rrod

360 has double the AAA and AA games then the PS3...but rrod

PS3 has had delay after delay after delays...but rrod

Home has pretty much become vaporware at this point...but..rrod

[/QUOTE

so the sorry excuse you adopt for a faulty unreliable hardware is an extended warranty... thats nice.. and lemmings defend MS for that !!!!

so a good game is judged by the no. of A's it gets from reviewers... ohh thats interesting, so if FFXIII gets 10/10 and a guy really hates rpg's you think it makes any difference... or if Uncharted got a 2/10 mark you think i would have enjoyed less that beautiful, action packed game ??? eeehh lemmings lemmings lemmings...

blackace

Microsoft has already address the RROD several times. Where have you been? Under a rock the past year. You guys keep brining up RROD and Microsoft is already fixing the issue. You COW keep acting like the problem hasn't been addressed. IT HAS. Several #$%#&*^ times by M$. They offered 3 year Warranty. They added a cooper cooling rod and a cooler CPU. They will be bringing out the cooler GPU (Jasper) in Sept to fix the RROD permanently. The RROD has been addressed, so please give it a REST. Yes, it gets defended my lemmings because the issue is already been worked on, yet this is the only things COWS can bring up against the XBox 360. Very sad. When is Sony's going to address all those #$%@& delays and broken promises they've made over the last 2 years? When are they going to release a AAAE game for goodness sake? It's been almost 2 years. When is Sony going to offer movies, T.V. and music downloads on their PSN network? They own lots of music and movies, so why don't we have that yet?

yet after all that its still not fixed. what makes you think ms is really going to fix rrod for sure. i mean the same thing was said last time. like someone said i'll take broken promises over a broken console