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#101 Bus-A-Bus
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Oh btw, play Crysis with 512 MB of RAM and tell me how good it looks. If you think Crytek is going to squeeze out even high-PC Crysis 1 graphics, you are out of your mind.Hahadouken

For starting you wont have to loose 600mb duo to Windows boot on consoles.Also you cant possibly compare console ram and PCs.Look at the most simple example,my old PC had 1gb or ram,6600gt and amd 3500+ and i ran San Andreas on high(1024x728,2xaa and i had 40fps with drops here and there) while ps2 had absolute sh** of gfx card,cpu was laughable outdated and 32 mb of ram,yes 32mb!And it still ran fine,yes low settings and all,but non the less it had 35 times less ram then my PC but it still ran it fine.

Now this consoles are much closer to PC in terms of power then they were in earlier gens.Both cpus will be able to do all the computing,physics a.i and such and cell will be left some for helping RSX.Both have 512 mb,while low for PCs it certainly will be enough for Crysis 2 if used correctly.Gpus are also good,xenos is good however you put it and RSX while Cevat said its low end compared to PC and 360 gpu it will get some help from Cell.

So again...you cant compare game on PC made for 10 billion hardware combinations and game optimized for fixed hardware.I can tell you that you could make better looking game then crysis on fixed hardware made of quad core,1gb of ram and 4850,no doubt about it.

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#102 silversix_
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The only thing good looking on the pic TC posted is the weapon lol. I'll wait for true console pics to be released and won't be fooled like i was with Metro 2033.
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#103 brickdoctor
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Yes, Killzone 2 is an amazing looking game. I'd go as far as to say that it looks better than U2 and RE5, but it will not beat Crysis 2. Even the original Crysis is better looking than KZ2.

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#105 GeneralShowzer
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Yes, Killzone 2 is an amazing looking game. I'd go as far as to say that it looks better than U2 and RE5, but it will not beat Crysis 2. Even the original Crysis is better looking than KZ2.

brickdoctor
:D Crysis is the best looking game. You can't throw it in like that. And i believe this thread is whether console version Crysis 2 will look better than KZ2. We know about the PC version.
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#106 Bus-A-Bus
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[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Yes, Killzone 2 is an amazing looking game. I'd go as far as to say that it looks better than U2 and RE5, but it will not beat Crysis 2. Even the original Crysis is better looking than KZ2.

GeneralShowzer

:D Crysis is the best looking game. You can't throw it in like that. And i believe this thread is whether console version Crysis 2 will look better than KZ2. We know about the PC version.

I dont see anything special that KZ2 is doing that Crysis 2 on consoles wont.

Deferred rendering(Crytek said up to 400 lightsources):checked

Better textures:checked

Real time global illumination(first on PC and consoles):checked

Bigger scale:checked

Procedular destruction:checked

we only have to wait if they gonna hit the art style,if they do,then its pretty much Crysis 2 consoles>KZ2 (as far as technicals go its already well known).

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Maybe if you crank the texture down and exagerate the motion blur; cows would then be impressed?

Though I suppose nothing outside of a "PS3 exclusive" tag would make any visuals impressive to cows.

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#108 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Yes, Killzone 2 is an amazing looking game. I'd go as far as to say that it looks better than U2 and RE5, but it will not beat Crysis 2. Even the original Crysis is better looking than KZ2.

Bus-A-Bus

:D Crysis is the best looking game. You can't throw it in like that. And i believe this thread is whether console version Crysis 2 will look better than KZ2. We know about the PC version.

I dont see anything special that KZ2 is doing that Crysis 2 on consoles wont.

Deferred rendering(Crytek said up to 400 lightsources):checked

Better textures:checked

Real time global illumination(first on PC and consoles):checked

Bigger scale:checked

Procedular destruction:checked

we only have to wait if they gonna hit the art style,if they do,then its pretty much Crysis 2 consoles>KZ2 (as far as technicals go its already well known).

See the difference is on KZ2 we can judge for ourselves, and on Crysis 2 we have to rely on what Crytek tells us. There is one thing i hate about Crysis 2, that's the claustrofobic feel about it, and fog of war. Everything ten feet away from you is blue fog, as you can see in the game-play videos. In Crysis you can use binoculars to check out what's on the other end of the map. And some of those features you listed are PC only.
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#109 Bus-A-Bus
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Maybe if you crank the texture down and exagerate the motion blur; cows would then be impressed?

Though I suppose nothing outside of a "PS3 exclusive" tag would make any visuals impressive to cows.

AnnoyedDragon

You are absolutely on point.This is GG tech interview,you can see the stages of rendering and how game actually looks(textures,aa...)before adding motion blur and post processing.

Just look at 1:38.Before pp and motion blur its really nothing to brag about...

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tech-interview-killzone-2/43389

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#110 Bus-A-Bus
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] :D Crysis is the best looking game. You can't throw it in like that. And i believe this thread is whether console version Crysis 2 will look better than KZ2. We know about the PC version.GeneralShowzer

I dont see anything special that KZ2 is doing that Crysis 2 on consoles wont.

Deferred rendering(Crytek said up to 400 lightsources):checked

Better textures:checked

Real time global illumination(first on PC and consoles):checked

Bigger scale:checked

Procedular destruction:checked

we only have to wait if they gonna hit the art style,if they do,then its pretty much Crysis 2 consoles>KZ2 (as far as technicals go its already well known).

See the difference is on KZ2 we can judge for ourselves, and on Crysis 2 we have to rely on what Crytek tells us. There is one thing i hate about Crysis 2, that's the claustrofobic feel about it, and fog of war. Everything ten feet away from you is blue fog, as you can see in the game-play videos. In Crysis you can use binoculars to check out what's on the other end of the map. And some of those features you listed are PC only.

No,thats what they showed they are doing on consoles and what tech forums confirmed(b3d).All that i posted is on PC and consoles,if you think im wrong i would like to you to prove me wrong.

Edit.To save you the trouble,since im right and you cant prove me wrong,here it is :D

http://www.vis.uni-stuttgart.de/~dachsbcn/download/lpv.pdf

http://www.crytek.com/fileadmin/user_upload/inside/presentations/2009/Light_Propagation_Volumes.pdf (page 29,real time GI on consoles)

Straight from Crytek :P

*I cant post another pdf,gives me error,its about deferred lightning.

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#111 racing1750
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Actually TC i'd say Killzone 2 is the best looking PS3 game.
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You are absolutely on point.This is GG tech interview,you can see the stages of rendering and how game actually looks(textures,aa...)before adding motion blur and post processing.

Just look at 1:38.Before pp and motion blur its really nothing to brag about...

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tech-interview-killzone-2/43389

Bus-A-Bus

I think a lot of games would look worse without their post processing, Killzone 2 just seems to rely on it to cover up the poor textures rather than to enhance the game.

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#113 Bus-A-Bus
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

You are absolutely on point.This is GG tech interview,you can see the stages of rendering and how game actually looks(textures,aa...)before adding motion blur and post processing.

Just look at 1:38.Before pp and motion blur its really nothing to brag about...

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tech-interview-killzone-2/43389

AnnoyedDragon

I think a lot of games would look worse without their post processing, Killzone 2 just seems to rely on it to cover up the poor textures rather than to enhance the game.

Well thats what im saying,if Crysis or even UC2 was without pp it would look worse,but KZ2 heavily relies on it.

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#114 dgsag
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Actually TC i'd say Killzone 2 is the best looking PS3 game.racing1750
Uncharted 2 says hi.
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#115 Macutchi
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[QUOTE="Macutchi"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]There isnt any. Not only that, Crysis 2 wont touch Uncharted 2, KZ2 and GOW3 graphically. The PS3 will remain with the best looking console exclusives for the rest of this generation.Chutebox

/system wars

OT: You have the best avatar and second best sig on SW.

ta bro :D

like your sig too

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#116 XileLord
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that rocks looks very bad.funsohng
You must have high standards then seeing as how most games have worse looking rocks then killzone 2.


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#117 DeckardLeeV
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lol@bullshots
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#118 PublicNuisance
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looks better than this. Please be honest when posting it. Keep in mind, this isn't even PS3s best looking game. Just thought I'd post this to everyone who swears up and down that the best looking console game won't be a PS3 exclusive. Remember folks, please be HONEST.

100.jpg picture by Tekken6_2009

iKINGBOBi

God that looks bad. Is that really what console games look like ? How do you guys even say with a straight face that any console game beats a PC game. Just wow.

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#119 ForceFreeze
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Silenthps

Crysis 2 is definitely looking good so far, but there are some pretty weird physics being displayed in those gifs. On a side note, the hate on KZ2 graphics are simply unwarranted, to this day I still rank it higher than UC2(or any other console game to date) on the visuals department.

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#120 tonitorsi
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[QUOTE="Shattered007"]This is what I expect even after Crysis 2 comes out and every major website's Preview/Review/Hands-on says it's the best looking console game(best looking game) when cows try and say "PS3 only does Best Graphics". It's sad really.vaderhater

How ever did the cows expect that those two games they always brag about would carry them for the rest of this gen? Pathetic really. Yes the end of the UC2 KZ2 pimpin days are almost here! I would expect some around here will have nothing left to do or say.:lol:

So there will be no Uncharted 3 or Killzone 3? :P

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#121 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Crysis 2 isn't even finished yet man, isn't that a little unfair :(

iKINGBOBi

That doesn't stop posters here from saying it will be console graphics king, so I'm simply asking them to put their money where their mouth is.

Ya because every single game crytek has pumped out has been way beyond it's time period. Seriously man just wait till the games finished. Rather than trying to nail it while it's still in development.

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#123 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Maybe if you crank the texture down and exagerate the motion blur; cows would then be impressed?

Though I suppose nothing outside of a "PS3 exclusive" tag would make any visuals impressive to cows.

Yeah if only Crytek would ad that "exclusive" feature that so many other "playstation 3 graphics kingzzz" contain then it would be looked at as the best looking game game.
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#124 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

you can do better than that right? where's the wow? cause I'm certainly not seeing it

chaplainDMK

sorry i assumed if a game as fugly as kz2 would wow you, then a game that looks way better would. forgot that logic + system wars = does not compute

Yes Killzone 2 is a fugly game.

Nice way of destroying your reputation here.

And Killzone 2 looks 10 times better in motion then in screens, because it has quite meh texture work but in motion they cover this up, and the motion blur, particle effects, animations, gun models and explosions are gorgeus.

But no way will it EVER beat PC Crysis, and there are a few other games on the PC that look better then KZ2.

:lol: Irony is ironic ;) Seriously though the tech shown inCrysis 2 are things KZ2 could only dream to achieve.

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#126 clone01
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

Is that surpose to be a rock or plastic bag in the bottom right corner, the texture is awful.

As far as i know there arent any Crysis 2 console screenshots is there? All the ones released are PC version? I may be wrong.

what about the rest of the pic:| no game has 100% graphical consistency

i don't think there are any console2 crysis pics out yet. how can you compare something out to something not even released.
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

Is that surpose to be a rock or plastic bag in the bottom right corner, the texture is awful.

As far as i know there arent any Crysis 2 console screenshots is there? All the ones released are PC version? I may be wrong.

clone01

what about the rest of the pic:| no game has 100% graphical consistency

i don't think there are any console2 crysis pics out yet. how can you compare something out to something not even released.

there's a game that is unnamed that's better looking than anything on consoles by 10000000000 times

but i can't say the name or when it's coming out, you just gotta trust me

and it's exclusive to a platform, can't say which

...

now let the uberhype begin

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#129 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

what about the rest of the pic:| no game has 100% graphical consistency

88mphSlayer

i don't think there are any console2 crysis pics out yet. how can you compare something out to something not even released.

there's a game that is unnamed that's better looking than anything on consoles by 10000000000 times

but i can't say the name or when it's coming out, you just gotta trust me

and it's exclusive to a platform, can't say which

...

now let the uberhype begin

Psh, overrated.
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

welp, time to end this

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indeed...

:D Oh snap

I consider myself a sane man so the only answer I can give is that KZ2 doesn't even come close.

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#131 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

welp, time to end this

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windsquid9000

indeed...

:D Oh snap

I consider myself a sane man so the only answer I can give is that KZ2 doesn't even come close.

I don't see how you come to that conclusion from watching all those gifs, but whatev!
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#132 hamzah1235
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I wish i knew how to locate gifs... :cry: Its beautiful...

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#133 FILIPINOMAZTER
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nope kz2 is the most technically impressive game ive seen on the ps3 it beats uncharted 2
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#134 UncleLukex
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also why is Crysis 2 on consoles more blury than KZ2 yet xbox360 fanboys and 360 fakeboys pretending to be hermetsare all over in Crysis 2 talking about how good it looks...the console versions that is?

Crysis 2 console...

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Killzone 2 PS3

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#135 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

indeed...

:D Oh snap

I consider myself a sane man so the only answer I can give is that KZ2 doesn't even come close.

I don't see how you come to that conclusion from watching all those gifs, but whatev!

And I don't see how you could come to any other conclusion. C2 uses far superior tech (as demonstrated by the gifs) and has higher quality assets. Also, according to Crytek (I think it was Crytek), 3 screenshots have been released of the PS3 version- one of which I posted on the second page.
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#136 hamzah1235
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UncleLukex, not only that, but the Gif that your pasting is from 2007, meaning its a very old build of KZ2

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[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

also why is Crysis 2 on consoles more blury than KZ2

It's called depth of field.
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#138 Ravensmash
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What's your point? The only information/screens of Crysis are tech demos ... Maybe come back in a few months, but this is pointless.
nope kz2 is the most technically impressive game ive seen on the ps3 it beats uncharted 2FILIPINOMAZTER
So why does that mean nothing can beat it? Do you not want anything to beat it? Would it be bad if it did beat it, or is it simply that it's a multiplat? I'm up for good looking games on all platforms.
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#139 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

I consider myself a sane man so the only answer I can give is that KZ2 doesn't even come close.

windsquid9000

I don't see how you come to that conclusion from watching all those gifs, but whatev!

And I don't see how you could come to any other conclusion. C2 uses far superior tech (as demonstrated by the gifs) and has higher quality assets. Also, according to Crytek (I think it was Crytek), 3 screenshots have been released of the PS3 version- one of which I posted on the second page.

I'm just not seeing anything really superior to KZ2 besides maybe destruction.

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#141 UncleLukex
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[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

also why is Crysis 2 on consoles more blury than KZ2

windsquid9000

It's called depth of field.

Lol, I know what it's called...funny when xbox fanboys refereed to KZ2 it was just blur, now I guess you guys are educated on the matter since anther game you guys are hyping as graphics king is also using it...

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#142 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

also why is Crysis 2 on consoles more blury than KZ2 yet xbox360 fanboys and 360 fakeboys pretending to be hermetsare all over in Crysis 2 talking about how good it looks...the console versions that is?

Crysis 2 console...

Killzone 2 PS3

88mphSlayer

that Killzone 2 gif is actually from the 2007 pre-alpha build, which was before they spent a few years rebuilding the engine and re-doing a lot of the graphics

Killzone 2 definitely looks pretty decent in motion, mostly thanks to effects, but if people want to talk about graphics technology then you'd expect them to know better than to say Killzone 2 didn't take a lot of cheap ways out in order to achieve what it does (like exclusively using pre-baked lighting), or to diminish how capable Cryengine is... kinda failing graphics 101 if you ask me

Decent?! What is with this SW love for undervaluing KZ2's graphics!

The game is freaking astonishing. (I know, opinions, opinions blah blah blah!)

Also, were you saying KZ2 doesn't look as good as that gif?

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#143 mitu123
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I can't believe people are using off screen shots/gifs of an unfinished/unreleased game, let alone the game will probably look different from that on April 9th.

Off screen does not equal direct screen either.

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#144 mo0ksi
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TC, I think you even knew that making this thread was just a dumb idea. Stop being dumb. C`mon.
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#145 NVIDIATI
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Cryengine 3 gifs:

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[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] I don't see how you come to that conclusion from watching all those gifs, but whatev!Chutebox

And I don't see how you could come to any other conclusion. C2 uses far superior tech (as demonstrated by the gifs) and has higher quality assets. Also, according to Crytek (I think it was Crytek), 3 screenshots have been released of the PS3 version- one of which I posted on the second page.

I'm just not seeing anything really superior to KZ2 besides maybe destruction.

Well, destruction is all that was shown in the gifs. The rest of the video demonstrates more tech. Just like Crysis when it was released, Crysis 2 will be the most technically impressive game upon its release.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] And I don't see how you could come to any other conclusion. C2 uses far superior tech (as demonstrated by the gifs) and has higher quality assets. Also, according to Crytek (I think it was Crytek), 3 screenshots have been released of the PS3 version- one of which I posted on the second page.windsquid9000

I'm just not seeing anything really superior to KZ2 besides maybe destruction.

Well, destruction is all that was shown in the gifs. The rest of the video demonstrates more tech. Just like Crysis when it was released, Crysis 2 will be the most technically impressive game upon its release.

Hey, I hope it will be. Only good for us if it is.
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#148 windsquid9000
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also why is Crysis 2 on consoles more blury than KZ2

It's called depth of field.

Lol, I know what it's called...funny when xbox fanboys refereed to KZ2 it was just blur, now I guess you guys are educated on the matter since anther game you guys are hyping as graphics king is also using it...

KZ2's motion blur was used to cover up poor textures. C2's depth of field is used to draw focus on what's going on in the foreground. Also, as shown by tech demos and the other gifs, the distance of DoF isn't always that low.
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#149 Ravensmash
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Has everyone seen the tech demos released during GDC? There's a lot of very nice tech.