Show me one pic of CONSOLE Crysis 2 that

The high standards card makes no sense when your talking about one of if not the best looking console game ever made dude...Mestitia

As I said before, I'm a PC gamer. Console gamers definition of best won't be the same as mine.

That said I have seen better examples of textures on PS3 than Killzone 2, so I can only assume the memory needed for Killzones 2's post processing has eaten into the Vram budget other games had access to.

And yet here you are defending the console version of Crysis 2 a multiplatform game trying to sayit looks better than KZ2? Also the second bold part of your text would also apply to Crysis 2 on consoles but you seem to be focused on bashing KZ2...

Explain...

UncleLukex

I think it is you who has to explain yourself...

Take for instance accusing me of taking sides, simply for pointing out you were making a misleading comparison by spinning one Crysis 2 gif as representing the entire game.

I was pointing out you were making a questionable comparison, you would have to have black and white vision to determine that as taking sides.

ferret-gamerand 88mphSlayer, im going to implement your logic very poor, fanboyish logicin crysis pics

*Bu...Bu you playz it onz da 19 inch compz secreen!!11!!11!!hamzah1235

The following is CrysisWars (Crysis Multiplayer)running on my PC, native resolution 1680x1050:

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="Shattered007"] Well, Don't forget...there was those 2 threads in the about Fable 2 (guy was banned) and Metro 2033 (even though that was actually hermits and 1 fanboy) that said they were better then Crysis. :shock: That must mean that the Haze/Metal Gead Solid 4/Uncharted/Killzone 2/Uncharted 2/ Heavy Rain/God of War 3 equal the Fable 2 and Metro 2033 threads! Hahadouken must be right....Lems are just as bad as Cows about these graphics threads!

Shattered007

too bad 15 other games went multiplat to the 360.

you'd have a HUGE cow list then;)

Oh, and before cows start quoting this and calling me a lem...I actually agree that Uncharted 2 is the best looking game (on consoles) as of right now.

So when Uncharted 3 and Killzone 3 release and gain console graphics king again...then what?.

Are you going to still be arguing how wrong the cows are?

Because you DO know this gen isn't over after Crysis 2 comes out...

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

too bad 15 other games went multiplat to the 360.

you'd have a HUGE cow list then;)

Oh, and before cows start quoting this and calling me a lem...I actually agree that Uncharted 2 is the best looking game (on consoles) as of right now.

So when Uncharted 3 and Killzone 3 release and gain console graphics king again...then what?.

Are you going to stillbe gloating how wrong thecows are?

Because you DO know this gen isn't over after Crysis 2 comes out :roll:

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

[QUOTE="Shattered007"] It really doesn't matter...The cows will continue to say Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 look better...Just like their are still cows that say that those games look better then Crysis (1). They know it's coming to a end (the whole console graphics king talk) and they are made that a mutiplat did it to them...Crysis is the anti-Christ for cows and they are early damage controlling.

Oh, and before cows start quoting this and calling me a lem...I actually agree that Uncharted 2 is the best looking game (on consoles) as of right now.

Shattered007

So when Uncharted 3 and Killzone 3 release and gain console graphics king again...then what?.

Are you going to stillbe gloating how wrong thecows are?

Because you DO know this gen isn't over after Crysis 2 comes out :roll:

I meant on consoles.

Guerrilla games and Naughty Dog are known to push console graphics to the limit....what's to deny they will stop right there?

People who love Killzone's graphics always seem oblivious to the fact that it's incredibly small scale with tiny draw distances and blurry textures. Ninja-Bear

Guerrilla games and Naughty Dog are known to push console graphics to the limmit....what's to deny they will stop right there?tonitorsi

Well, Crytek has said over and over again that it has maxed out the PS3... Even if it didn't, Crysis2 might be beyond any other graphics (like Crysis was on the PC).

[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

So when Uncharted 3 and Killzone 3 release and gain console graphics king again...then what?.

Are you going to stillbe gloating how wrong thecows are?

Because you DO know this gen isn't over after Crysis 2 comes out :roll:

tonitorsi

I meant on consoles.

Guerrilla games and Naughty Dog are known to push console graphics to the limmit....what's to deny they will stop right there?

if you like Uncharted: 5' Tunnel Edition.

you are correct.

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

[QUOTE="Shattered007"] And you know for sure that Uncharted 3 & Killzone 3 will look better then Crysis 2 (When not even Crysis has been toppled, graphiclly)? HavocV3

I meant on consoles.

Guerrilla games and Naughty Dog are known to push console graphics to the limmit....what's to deny they will stop right there?

if you like Uncharted: 5' Train Tunnel Edition.

you are correct.

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]The high standards card makes no sense when your talking about one of if not the best looking console game ever made dude...AnnoyedDragon

As I said before, I'm a PC gamer. Console gamers definition of best won't be the same as mine.

That said I have seen better examples of textures on PS3 than Killzone 2, so I can only assume the memory needed for Killzones 2's post processing has eaten into the Vram budget other games had access to.

And yet here you are defending the console version of Crysis 2 a multiplatform game trying to sayit looks better than KZ2? Also the second bold part of your text would also apply to Crysis 2 on consoles but you seem to be focused on bashing KZ2...

Explain...

UncleLukex

I think it is you who has to explain yourself...

Take for instance accusing me of taking sides, simply for pointing out you were making a misleading comparison by spinning one Crysis 2 gif as representing the entire game.

I was pointing out you were making a questionable comparison, you would have to have black and white vision to determine that as taking sides.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]The high standards card makes no sense when your talking about one of if not the best looking console game ever made dude...Mestitia

As I said before, I'm a PC gamer. Console gamers definition of best won't be the same as mine.

That said I have seen better examples of textures on PS3 than Killzone 2, so I can only assume the memory needed for Killzones 2's post processing has eaten into the Vram budget other games had access to.

Why are you guys bringing in PC shots of Crysis on High? =\ Wasn't this supposed to be a thread about KZ2 looking better then the console version of Crysis 2? Am I missing something? Did I claim KZ2 looks better then Crysis on PC?

Why are you guys bringing in PC shots of Crysis on High? =\ Wasn't this supposed to be a thread about KZ2 looking better then the console version of Crysis 2? Am I missing something? Did I claim KZ2 looks better then Crysis on PC?

Mestitia

Why are you guys bringing in PC shots of Crysis on High? =\ Wasn't this supposed to be a thread about KZ2 looking better then the console version of Crysis 2? Am I missing something? Did I claim KZ2 looks better then Crysis on PC?

Mestitia

[QUOTE="Mestitia"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

As I said before, I'm a PC gamer. Console gamers definition of best won't be the same as mine.

That said I have seen better examples of textures on PS3 than Killzone 2, so I can only assume the memory needed for Killzones 2's post processing has eaten into the Vram budget other games had access to.

NVIDIATI

about here...

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

I'm a pc gamer too and I don't quite follow your line of reasoning, first off, KZ2 looks great even compared to PC games, second as a PC gamer you should know graphics are about a hell of a lot more then textures, and last, KZ2 has great textures, your nitpicking, have you played the game? It really sounds like your just trying to be the counter arguement.Mestitia

about here...

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

Why are you guys bringing in PC shots of Crysis on High? =\ Wasn't this supposed to be a thread about KZ2 looking better then the console version of Crysis 2? Am I missing something? Did I claim KZ2 looks better then Crysis on PC?

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"] I'm a pc gamer too and I don't quite follow your line of reasoning, first off, KZ2 looks great even compared to PC games, second as a PC gamer you should know graphics are about a hell of a lot more then textures, and last, KZ2 has great textures, your nitpicking, have you played the game? It really sounds like your just trying to be the counter arguement.UncleLukex

about here...

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Killzone 2 is lacking it more than just textures, but its textures are just horrible. The following is a pretty good example of a texture scale. Can you tell me where Killzone 2's textures would fall?

dgsag

about here...

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Killzone 2 is lacking it more than just textures, but its textures are just horrible. The following is a pretty good example of a texture scale. Can you tell me where Killzone 2's textures would fall?

dgsag

about here...

Funny I went to go find a larger pictures (here) and the grapihcs didn't get any worse...so much for hiding a lack of detail...

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

about here...

UncleLukex

Funny I went to go find a larger pictures (here) and the grapihcs didn't get any worse...so much for hiding a lack of detail...

I'm a pc gamer too and I don't quite follow your line of reasoning, first off, KZ2 looks great even compared to PC games, second as a PC gamer you should know graphics are about a hell of a lot more then textures, and last, KZ2 has great textures, your nitpicking, have you played the game? It really sounds like your just trying to be the counter arguement.Mestitia

You're making a lot of matter of fact statements when really you are just pushing your opinion as fact; and then declaring those who disagree wrong.

"KZ2 looks great even compared to PC games"

"KZ2 has great textures"

And if I disagree who would be wrong? I've made it clear in this thread that I am speaking from preference. Granted opinion is not a shield from having to justify what you are saying, I'm simply saying the textures look bad to me.

"PC gamer you should know graphics are about a hell of a lot more then textures"

The same could be said for any one layer of detail, it is how it is all added together that produces the end result. To me Killzone 2 looks like a game that didn't do well with the texture layer, so it tries to make up for it in all additional effects layered on top.

I believe if you don't get the foundations right; then anything layered on top is irrelevant.

Maybe if I had a decent capture device I could better show what I feel is bad, but since mine is crap; I can only describe what I see and think.

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

about here...

UncleLukex

Funny I went to go find a larger pictures (here) and the grapihcs didn't get any worse...so much for hiding a lack of detail...

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

[QUOTE="dgsag"] How about we see that at its native resolution and not downscaled to hide a lack of detail?

Funny I went to go find a larger pictures (here) and the grapihcs didn't get any worse...so much for hiding a lack of detail...

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

:cry: bu..but teh blurz? Fail

Only fanboys play the blur card with Killzone 2 as it isn't enough of a problem to have ever been mentioned in any review as a negative aspect of the game. Fanboys just need something negative to point out in the game to try to bring it down..as evidence of what you are trying to do now.

UncleLukex

people don't play Killzone 2 on a 5 inch screen...

at least post something so people can see what it looks like when they play it

:roll: because your still screnes show what it looks like when you play it.....

If you didn't know (obvious that you didn't play the game) the gifs DO show what it looks like when you play the game and alot more than your screenshots because I don't play KZ2 on a standard definiton TV. It's funny that you say that because you somehow think it looks diffrent than what these gifs are showing in motion trying to blame the size.

If you can't see this then you should stop playing videogames, sounds like you're just making excuses this is what KZ2 looks like when you play it. PERIOD

:roll: BTW nice MULTIPLAYER screen shots you've found to use for your argument there...

the guy was trying to dismiss that Killzone 2 has high levels of blur

and the only thing that your gif shows is that it has some lighting effects (which isn't uncommon nowadays), which has nothing to do with blur effects, believe me even that part of the game has lots of blur effects

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

:cry: bu..but teh blurz? Fail

Only fanboys play the blur card with Killzone 2 as it isn't enough of a problem to have ever been mentioned in any review as a negative aspect of the game. Fanboys just need something negative to point out in the game to try to bring it down..as evidence of what you are trying to do now.

TintedEyes

people don't play Killzone 2 on a 5 inch screen...

at least post something so people can see what it looks like when they play it

Those are some bad screens, Kz2 looks more like this.

corrected to display at full-size

anyways, i don't think Killzone 2 is a BAD looking game at all, the art direction is really well done and is appealing to the eyes, but it's a whole other beast if people want to start talking about graphics from an objective technical POV and start getting Cryengine involved... you have to back up your claims with more than just tiny gifs

Killzone

Gears 2

Forget Crysis 2, Gears 2 pretty much owns Killzone 2. :lol:

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

Funny I went to go find a larger pictures (here) and the grapihcs didn't get any worse...so much for hiding a lack of detail...

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] slightly larger picture is slightly larger. Post in native resolution buddy kz2. you dont play kz2 at the resolution of 640x342 on a 5 inch screen do you?

killzowned24

and again please post screens in full native size. btw thats not all that impressive of a texture.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] slightly larger picture is slightly larger. Post in native resolution buddy kz2. you dont play kz2 at the resolution of 640x342 on a 5 inch screen do you?

killzowned24

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] And again thats offscreen :Pferret-gamer

and again please post screens in full native size.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] Doesnt matter really because anyone who has played the game knows even multiplayer which that probably is looks that good.Here is a pic of the same type of texture with being crouched down to show showing depth detail is there even very close. If KZ2 had a screenshot feature i would take a pic.

killzowned24

and again please post screens in full native size.

1280x720

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] Doesnt matter really because anyone who has played the game knows even multiplayer which that probably is looks that good.Here is a pic of the same type of texture with being crouched down to show showing depth detail is there even very close. If KZ2 had a screenshot feature i would take a pic.

killzowned24

and again please post screens in full native size.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

and again please post screens in full native size.

NVIDIATI

1280x720

And this will look better then Crysis 2 on consoles???Dream on cows...So it begins,damage control...

Congrats NvidiaAti,finally someone with REAL shoot.BTW,we should only use videos from now on...

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] Doesnt matter really because anyone who has played the game knows even multiplayer which that probably is looks that good.Here is a pic of the same type of texture with being crouched down to show showing depth detail is there even very close. If KZ2 had a screenshot feature i would take a pic.

killzowned24

and again please post screens in full native size.

Maybe you're finding it hard to comprehend that maybe we don't find it as impressive as you, because we've played superior looking games? I've played it, I have not finished it because I got bored after the 3rd mission, but I've still played it. And in all honestly, it didn't impress me. Maybe I was spoiled by Stalker and Crysis. Who knows. :P What I will admit though, is it has the best animations, hit detection ragdolls (followed closely by Metro 2033) that I've ever seen. The particles don't impress me because they're so over exaggerated it's laughable.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

and again please post screens in full native size.

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

so you never played KZ2 then? I find it funny hermits dont believe. killzowned24

Man, this is tense. When they reveal the videos 4-5 days from now, it's either going to own Killzone 2, or fail. :lol: Cows and Lems must be sweating buckets.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] I dunno about him, but not only have I played Killzone 2, I own it.This is Killzone 2 in its native resolutionNVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] so you never played KZ2 then? I find it funny hermits dont believe. killzowned24

Games resolution doesnt have to do anything with texture res.BTW Crysis 2 textures will be better by default,you can see the latest videos that shows expectational textures on consoles.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] I dunno about him, but not only have I played Killzone 2, I own it.This is Killzone 2 in its native resolutionNVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] Um, what is your point? are you saying crysis 2 on console will be more than 720.

Mestitia

The thing is that people compare it to Crysis 2(some pics,tech demos,GDC demo...) and it tends to look worse.In comparison with UC2 KZ2 textures loses without doubt but in comparison with BF BC2 they win,but we are talking about Crysis 2...

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] Um, what is your point? are you saying crysis 2 on console will be more than 720.

killzowned24

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] Um, what is your point? are you saying crysis 2 on console will be more than 720.

killzowned24

O really?Textures best part?Sorry,NO!

We're talking about Crytek here, people. The same devs who created Far Cry, and Crysis. If you honestly think Killzone 2 is going to own a game by Crytek, the masters of real time graphics and physics, you're extremely dilusional.

Man, this is tense. When they reveal the videos 4-5 days from now, it's either going to own Killzone 2, or fail. :lol: Cows and Lems must be sweating buckets.

Dataleak