Show me one pic of CONSOLE Crysis 2 that

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

also why is Crysis 2 on consoles more blury than KZ2 yet xbox360 fanboys and 360 fakeboys pretending to be hermetsare all over in Crysis 2 talking about how good it looks...the console versions that is?

Crysis 2 console...

Killzone 2 PS3

Chutebox

that Killzone 2 gif is actually from the 2007 pre-alpha build, which was before they spent a few years rebuilding the engine and re-doing a lot of the graphics

Killzone 2 definitely looks pretty decent in motion, mostly thanks to effects, but if people want to talk about graphics technology then you'd expect them to know better than to say Killzone 2 didn't take a lot of cheap ways out in order to achieve what it does (like exclusively using pre-baked lighting), or to diminish how capable Cryengine is... kinda failing graphics 101 if you ask me

Decent?! What is with this SW love for undervaluing KZ2's graphics!

The game is freaking astonishing. (I know, opinions, opinions blah blah blah!)

Also, were you saying KZ2 doesn't look as good as that gif?

well i played the campaign about 3 times, and played the online quite a bit (69 hours according to killzone.com)

overall the game looks like you took an average looking console fps, take something like Call of Duty: World at War

then plastered a ton of screen effects like motion blur, depth of field, sparks, blood splatter, film grain, etc.

it's a worthy effort, but it lacks any sharpness, and after awhile you kinda start seeing through the effects which makes the game look worse

imo the sound design is more impressive after you spend a lot of time playing the game than the graphics, i've played a lot of MP where you stop caring about the graphics and if anything they simply get in the way, but you rarely ever stop enjoying the sound (although i never cared for the campaign's musical score)

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]This is what I expect even after Crysis 2 comes out and every major website's Preview/Review/Hands-on says it's the best looking console game(best looking game) when cows try and say "PS3 only does Best Graphics". It's sad really.vaderhater

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

that Killzone 2 gif is actually from the 2007 pre-alpha build, which was before they spent a few years rebuilding the engine and re-doing a lot of the graphics

Killzone 2 definitely looks pretty decent in motion, mostly thanks to effects, but if people want to talk about graphics technology then you'd expect them to know better than to say Killzone 2 didn't take a lot of cheap ways out in order to achieve what it does (like exclusively using pre-baked lighting), or to diminish how capable Cryengine is... kinda failing graphics 101 if you ask me

88mphSlayer

Decent?! What is with this SW love for undervaluing KZ2's graphics!

The game is freaking astonishing. (I know, opinions, opinions blah blah blah!)

Also, were you saying KZ2 doesn't look as good as that gif?

well i played the campaign about 3 times, and played the online quite a bit (69 hours according to killzone.com)

overall the game looks like you took an average looking console fps, take something like Call of Duty: World at War

then plastered a ton of screen effects like motion blur, depth of field, sparks, blood splatter, film grain, etc.

it's a worthy effort, but it lacks any sharpness, and after awhile you kinda start seeing through the effects which makes the game look worse

I wasn't implying that you haven't played it, I hope I didn't sound as if I was.

This is going to be rather laughable when Crysis 2 releases and KZ2, a game that is extremely undervalued graphically at system wars, is going to look substantially better than Crysis 2 on consoles...Oh, by the way, for people trying to defend the Crysis 2 Gifs, this is becoming extremely sad, as it looks quite mediocre when compared to the KZ2 Gifs...Honestly, try finding higher quality Gifs, except in the case of NVIDIATI, who is just a flat out delusional Hermit at best, its quite laughable when he makes a statement, espicially when he tries to state that the Gifs that he had pasted look anywhere near as KZ2

also why is Crysis 2 on consoles more blury than KZ2 yet xbox360 fanboys and 360 fakeboys pretending to be hermetsare all over in Crysis 2 talking about how good it looks...the console versions that is?

Crysis 2 console...

Killzone 2 PS3

UncleLukex

There are a variety of Crysis 2 console footage out there, why are you focusing on that 'one clip' using depth of field; when there are plenty out there that aren't blurry?

Killzone 2 gets criticised for its blur effects because it is over used and appears to be in use to cover stuff up, it is in almost every image you can find of Killzone 2. In the case of Crysis 2 however you are taking one image and spinning it as representing all Crysis 2 footage, even though a quick search will produce results where blur filters are not over used.

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] I don't see how you come to that conclusion from watching all those gifs, but whatev!UncleLukex

:lol: LMAO..are you freking serious? For someone to look at these and come to that conclusion = no credit at all. If you want to try to be a 360 fake boy discised as a hermetjust try to stick to PC>>> everything, because your arguemt comes apart when you try to apply that same logic games made on consoles.

I think people should just stop with using gifs.KZ2 gifs are everywere on net,you picked the best,game to me looks exceptional,but there is like five early in dev Crysis 2 gifs shown on developers conference just to show the features of engine.Those with physics have some pretty ugly color grading but that one on shooting a jeep is pretty impressive,neck and neck with KZ2 no doubt.

Now i beg you to look at this 1 year old video showing CE3 running on consoles and features a.i.Its in woods,look at the details and water,NOTHING on consoles look like it.I smell some pre damage control,fanboys should not worry,a couple of more days(5) and Crysis 2 video and info will emerge,will see damage control then.:)

Also...whoever says KZ2 looks decent or bad needs eye check,seriously its most impressive console game released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvQNhVwEOyI

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

also why is Crysis 2 on consoles more blury than KZ2 yet xbox360 fanboys and 360 fakeboys pretending to be hermetsare all over in Crysis 2 talking about how good it looks...the console versions that is?

Crysis 2 console...

Killzone 2 PS3

AnnoyedDragon

There are a variety of Crysis 2 console footage out there, why are you focusing on that 'one clip' using depth of field; when there are plenty out there that aren't blurry?

Killzone 2 gets criticised for its blur effects because it is over used and appears to be in use to cover stuff up, it is in almost every image you can find of Killzone 2. In the case of Crysis 2 however you are taking one image and spinning it as representing all Crysis 2 footage, even though a quick search will produce results where blur filters are not over used.

Cryengine 3 gifs:

NVIDIATI

In one of those gifs above destruction is pre computed,still look neat though...

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Cryengine 3 gifs:

TintedEyes

Crysis 2 will look better then those one year old tech demos...

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Cryengine 3 gifs:

Bus-A-Bus

Crysis 2 will look better then those one year old tech demos...

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

also why is Crysis 2 on consoles more blury than KZ2 yet xbox360 fanboys and 360 fakeboys pretending to be hermetsare all over in Crysis 2 talking about how good it looks...the console versions that is?

Crysis 2 console...

Killzone 2 PS3

AnnoyedDragon

There are a variety of Crysis 2 console footage out there, why are you focusing on that 'one clip' using depth of field; when there are plenty out there that aren't blurry?

Killzone 2 gets criticised for its blur effects because it is over used and appears to be in use to cover stuff up, it is in almost every image you can find of Killzone 2. In the case of Crysis 2 however you are taking one image and spinning it as representing all Crysis 2 footage, even though a quick search will produce results where blur filters are not over used.

:cry: bu..but teh blurz? Fail

Only fanboys play the blur card with Killzone 2 as it isn't enough of a problem to have ever been mentioned in any review as a negative aspect of the game. Fanboys just need something negative to point out in the game to try to bring it down..as evidence of what you are trying to do now.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

also why is Crysis 2 on consoles more blury than KZ2 yet xbox360 fanboys and 360 fakeboys pretending to be hermetsare all over in Crysis 2 talking about how good it looks...the console versions that is?

Crysis 2 console...

Killzone 2 PS3

UncleLukex

There are a variety of Crysis 2 console footage out there, why are you focusing on that 'one clip' using depth of field; when there are plenty out there that aren't blurry?

Killzone 2 gets criticised for its blur effects because it is over used and appears to be in use to cover stuff up, it is in almost every image you can find of Killzone 2. In the case of Crysis 2 however you are taking one image and spinning it as representing all Crysis 2 footage, even though a quick search will produce results where blur filters are not over used.

:cry: bu..but teh blurz? Fail

Only fanboys play the blur card with Killzone 2 as it isn't enough of a problem to have ever been mentioned in any review as a negative aspect of the game. Fanboys just need something negative to point out in the game to try to bring it down..as evidence of what you are trying to do now.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] He said Crysis 2 not the engine

TintedEyes

Crysis 2 will look better then those one year old tech demos...

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Crysis 2 will look better then those one year old tech demos...

Bus-A-Bus

While those gifs look really amazing i dont see what "other" system could not do.As a matter of fact,developers on b3d agreed that KZ2 could be made on 360 just that there is no dev that talented in MS and that dont really push system forward...

Bus-A-Bus

I don't know man, I'm not basing my posts on speculation, but I'm not going to knock for what you choose to beleve. However my post are related directly with comments made about this game vs what been seen on Crysis 2 on consoles now...and so far Crysis 2 on consoles dose not look better than KZ2 onPS3, that's my only point in posting.

You can speculate all you want about what xbox360 "could" do, but then I could speculate that PS3 can still do 4D graphics and dual 1080p resolution @ 60fps (with the tag line of...) there is no dev talented enough at Sony to really push the system foward enough. Would you accetp that "logic" from a PS3 fan? No you wouldn't, you would be like if PS3 is capable then why hasn't it done it yet?

so why do you expect that others acceptable that logic from xbox360 fans...especially since they are the ones that coined the phase "just wait" talking about what PS3 hadn't been able to to yet?

*edit*

:wink: if it makes you feel better I think Halo Reach looks better than Crysis 2 aswell, IMO Crysis 2 on consoles looks really unimpressive compaired to exclusives in 2010...talking about 360 and PS3, with PS3 however it hasn't even cought up with exclusives from 2009.

Play the game, don't move, and the game still looks astonishing.

Chutebox

The closest I have come to the game is watching a friend play the demo.

Maybe I just have too high standards, but I saw poor textures and lots of LOD popping.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Play the game, don't move, and the game still looks astonishing.

AnnoyedDragon

The closest I have come to the game is watching a friend play the demo.

Maybe I just have too high standards, but I saw poor textures and lots of LOD popping.

*KZ2 pics*

Here are some old pics of KZ2 to show you how incredible it looked, even back then in 2007

hamzah1235

oh you mean back then when they were still using prerendered screens? :P

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Play the game, don't move, and the game still looks astonishing.

Chutebox

The closest I have come to the game is watching a friend play the demo.

Maybe I just have too high standards, but I saw poor textures and lots of LOD popping.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

also why is Crysis 2 on consoles more blury than KZ2 yet xbox360 fanboys and 360 fakeboys pretending to be hermetsare all over in Crysis 2 talking about how good it looks...the console versions that is?

Crysis 2 console...

Killzone 2 PS3

UncleLukex

There are a variety of Crysis 2 console footage out there, why are you focusing on that 'one clip' using depth of field; when there are plenty out there that aren't blurry?

Killzone 2 gets criticised for its blur effects because it is over used and appears to be in use to cover stuff up, it is in almost every image you can find of Killzone 2. In the case of Crysis 2 however you are taking one image and spinning it as representing all Crysis 2 footage, even though a quick search will produce results where blur filters are not over used.

:cry: bu..but teh blurz? Fail

Only fanboys play the blur card with Killzone 2 as it isn't enough of a problem to have ever been mentioned in any review as a negative aspect of the game. Fanboys just need something negative to point out in the game to try to bring it down..as evidence of what you are trying to do now.

people don't play Killzone 2 on a 5 inch screen...

at least post something so people can see what it looks like when they play it

Of course there are poor textures in the game, there are poor textures in ever single game ever created. Not sure what LOD popping refers to.

Chutebox

:cry: bu..but teh blurz? Fail

Only fanboys play the blur card with Killzone 2 as it isn't enough of a problem to have ever been mentioned in any review as a negative aspect of the game. Fanboys just need something negative to point out in the game to try to bring it down..as evidence of what you are trying to do now.

UncleLukex

While those gifs look really amazing i dont see what "other" system could not do.As a matter of fact,developers on b3d agreed that KZ2 could be made on 360 just that there is no dev that talented in MS and that dont really push system forward...

Bus-A-Bus

Flame me if you want, but that Halo:Reach gif that you have looks as goodas those KZ2 Gifs. Some extra filters, and it will look great!

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

The closest I have come to the game is watching a friend play the demo.

Maybe I just have too high standards, but I saw poor textures and lots of LOD popping.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

There are a variety of Crysis 2 console footage out there, why are you focusing on that 'one clip' using depth of field; when there are plenty out there that aren't blurry?

Killzone 2 gets criticised for its blur effects because it is over used and appears to be in use to cover stuff up, it is in almost every image you can find of Killzone 2. In the case of Crysis 2 however you are taking one image and spinning it as representing all Crysis 2 footage, even though a quick search will produce results where blur filters are not over used.

88mphSlayer

:cry: bu..but teh blurz? Fail

Only fanboys play the blur card with Killzone 2 as it isn't enough of a problem to have ever been mentioned in any review as a negative aspect of the game. Fanboys just need something negative to point out in the game to try to bring it down..as evidence of what you are trying to do now.

people don't play Killzone 2 on a 5 inch screen...

at least post something so people can see what it looks like when they play it

Those are some bad screens, Kz2 looks more like this.

I'm not sure what anyone in this thread is going off of, because we still haven't seen a single frame of Crysis 2 on consoles. All we've seen is an engine tech demo.

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

:cry: bu..but teh blurz? Fail

Only fanboys play the blur card with Killzone 2 as it isn't enough of a problem to have ever been mentioned in any review as a negative aspect of the game. Fanboys just need something negative to point out in the game to try to bring it down..as evidence of what you are trying to do now.

UncleLukex

people don't play Killzone 2 on a 5 inch screen...

at least post something so people can see what it looks like when they play it

:roll: because your still screnes show what it looks like when you play it.....

If you didn't know (obvious that you didn't play the game) the gifs DO show what it looks like when you play the game and alot more than your screenshots because I don't play KZ2 on a standard definiton TV. It's funny that you say that because you somehow think it looks diffrent than what these gifs are showing in motion trying to blame the size.

If you can't see this then you should stop playing videogames, sounds like you're just making excuses this is what KZ2 looks like when you play it. PERIOD

You play kz2 on a 3 in screen? he posted full size pics to demonstrate what the game looks like on full size. that gif is only representative of what the game looks like playing if you are playing on a 3 inch srceen, which im pretty sure most ps3 owners do not.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Play the game, don't move, and the game still looks astonishing.

AnnoyedDragon

The closest I have come to the game is watching a friend play the demo.

Maybe I just have too high standards, but I saw poor textures and lots of LOD popping.

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

:cry: bu..but teh blurz? Fail

Only fanboys play the blur card with Killzone 2 as it isn't enough of a problem to have ever been mentioned in any review as a negative aspect of the game. Fanboys just need something negative to point out in the game to try to bring it down..as evidence of what you are trying to do now.

UncleLukex

people don't play Killzone 2 on a 5 inch screen...

at least post something so people can see what it looks like when they play it

:roll: because your still screnes show what it looks like when you play it.....

If you didn't know (obvious that you didn't play the game) the gifs DO show what it looks like when you play the game and alot more than your screenshots because I don't play KZ2 on a standard definiton TV. It's funny that you say that because you somehow think it looks diffrent than what these gifs are showing in motion trying to blame the size.

If you can't see this then you should stop playing videogames, sounds like you're just making excuses this is what KZ2 looks like when you play it. PERIOD

:roll: BTW nice MULTIPLAYER screen shots you've found to use for your argument there...

Hey nice offscreen footage you got there.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Of course there are poor textures in the game, there are poor textures in ever single game ever created. Not sure what LOD popping refers to.

AnnoyedDragon

:cry: bu..but teh blurz? Fail

Only fanboys play the blur card with Killzone 2 as it isn't enough of a problem to have ever been mentioned in any review as a negative aspect of the game. Fanboys just need something negative to point out in the game to try to bring it down..as evidence of what you are trying to do now.

UncleLukex

And yet here you are defending the console version of Crysis 2 a multiplatform game trying to sayit looks better than KZ2? Also the second bold part of your text would also apply to Crysis 2 on consoles but you seem to be focused on bashing KZ2...

Explain...

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

While those gifs look really amazing i dont see what "other" system could not do.As a matter of fact,developers on b3d agreed that KZ2 could be made on 360 just that there is no dev that talented in MS and that dont really push system forward...

UncleLukex

I don't know man, I'm not basing my posts on speculation, but I'm not going to knock for what you choose to beleve. However my post are related directly with comments made about this game vs what been seen on Crysis 2 on consoles now...and so far Crysis 2 on consoles dose not look better than KZ2 onPS3, that's my only point in posting.

You can speculate all you want about what xbox360 "could" do, but then I could speculate that PS3 can still do 4D graphics and dual 1080p resolution @ 60fps (with the tag line of...) there is no dev talented enough at Sony to really push the system foward enough. Would you accetp that "logic" from a PS3 fan? No you wouldn't, you would be like if PS3 is capable then why hasn't it done it yet?

so why do you expect that others acceptable that logic from xbox360 fans...especially since they are the ones that coined the phase "just wait" talking about what PS3 hadn't been able to to yet?

*edit*

:wink: if it makes you feel better I think Halo Reach looks better than Crysis 2 aswell, IMO Crysis 2 on consoles looks really unimpressive compaired to exclusives in 2010...talking about 360 and PS3, with PS3 however it hasn't even cought up with exclusives from 2009.

Its speculation from my side you are right,but not from actual developers.Those guys make games,they program games for both 360 and ps3,if they say 360 can push required number of polys or can run deferred rendering like KZ2 and has enough memory,i believe them.

And im with you on that one with KZ2,it looks great,dont know why people want to downplay it,but i think that Crysis 2 will surpass it even on consoles.

And yea,your comparison of speculating that 360 can run something like KZ2 and ps3 pushing dual 1080p at 60fps while having 4d(??? sony :roll:???) is really really downplaying of 360.PS3 will NEVER be able to render game at native 1080p even at 30fps if game is heavy on gfx.

Where the hell i'm gonna get that Crysis 2 pic, is like saying, shome one pic of the last Metroid M Boss.

Seriously TC, are you that insecure of how Killzone 2 looks? does the name Crysis scare you that much that you think it will surpass Killzone 2? do you by any chance play games, or you only stare at them?

And yet here you are defending the console version of Crysis 2 a multiplatform game trying to sayit looks better than KZ2? Also the second bold part of your text would also apply to Crysis 2 on consoles but you seem to be focused on bashing KZ2...

Explain...

Why do people still persist to say that Crysis 2 is ordinary multiplatform game?Its engine is basically GROUND UP for EVERY platform,you should see how it works.Designer uses sandbox editor on PC and he makes level,while he is making it it all is "pasted" on consoles in real time.When they finish it then engineers play with platforms strengths to make it better for every platform.There is no old multiplat ports,make it on 360 then port it on ps3 and play with spus,no you make your game for every platform ground up.

Right, after reading this thread in a bit more detail.... Why does it affect the TC whether KZ2 does get beaten by Crysis 2? Yes, it's a multiplat game, yes it's probably going to look equal on the consoles. But the logic I seem to be getting from this thread is, that unless the game is an exclusive first party game, then technical advancement is a bad thing. If Crytek pull out all the stops and deliver a game that destroys everything out there, then surely that means that other devs will have the opportunity to push other games further too. If the game looks great, it looks great.Ravensmash

OMG.

Logic in a SW thread.

You are not wanted here!

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

people don't play Killzone 2 on a 5 inch screen...

at least post something so people can see what it looks like when they play it

Sandvichman

:roll: because your still screnes show what it looks like when you play it.....

If you didn't know (obvious that you didn't play the game) the gifs DO show what it looks like when you play the game and alot more than your screenshots because I don't play KZ2 on a standard definiton TV. It's funny that you say that because you somehow think it looks diffrent than what these gifs are showing in motion trying to blame the size.

If you can't see this then you should stop playing videogames, sounds like you're just making excuses this is what KZ2 looks like when you play it. PERIOD

:roll: BTW nice MULTIPLAYER screen shots you've found to use for your argument there...

Hey nice offscreen footage you got there.

Nice damage control you got there...

and I guess it's official according to lemmings and (fakeboy) hermets in this thread that unless a gif occupies the entire region of the monitor it's fake and dosen't represent how the game really looks :roll: guess that make the Crysis 2 gifs in this thread FAKE aswell huh?

*edit*

here you go...

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Play the game, don't move, and the game still looks astonishing.

The closest I have come to the game is watching a friend play the demo.

Maybe I just have too high standards, but I saw poor textures and lots of LOD popping.

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"] Yeah except it isn't out and you're just as likely to eat your words as they are. There isn't a single screen or video of this game running on a console yet but there has already been 100 threads about PS3 DETHRONED CRYSIS 2 BEST ON CONSOLES! CRYSIS 2 BETTER ON CONSOLES THAN PC! XBOX360 VERSION BEST-LOOKING GAME EVER!... I sometimes wonder who cares more about PS3 graphics, cows or lems.Shattered007

too bad 15 other games went multiplat to the 360.

you'd have a HUGE cow list then;)

ferret-gamerand 88mphSlayer, im going to implement your logic very poor, fanboyish logicin crysis pics

hamzah???please :lol:

Lets post JUST videos,no fugly picked screens ok?

Here,this is my first

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvCZ36bV8gg

ferret-gamerand 88mphSlayer, im going to implement your logic very poor, fanboyish logicin crysis pics

*Bu...Bu you playz it onz da 19 inch compz secreen!!11!!11!!hamzah1235

Good job completely misunderstanding the point. you posted screenshots of a blown up crysis pic. What we were asying is that pot the game in its native resolution. im not asking for a blown up pic of kz2, i want to see somthing in its native resolution, and those gifs where in what? 200x300 res or something? kz2 plays in a resolution of 1280x720.

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

[QUOTE="UncleLukex"]

:roll: because your still screnes show what it looks like when you play it.....

If you didn't know (obvious that you didn't play the game) the gifs DO show what it looks like when you play the game and alot more than your screenshots because I don't play KZ2 on a standard definiton TV. It's funny that you say that because you somehow think it looks diffrent than what these gifs are showing in motion trying to blame the size.

If you can't see this then you should stop playing videogames, sounds like you're just making excuses this is what KZ2 looks like when you play it. PERIOD

:roll: BTW nice MULTIPLAYER screen shots you've found to use for your argument there...

UncleLukex

Hey nice offscreen footage you got there.

Nice damage control you got there...

and I guess it's official according to lemmings and (fakeboy) hermets in this thread that unless a gif occupies the entire region of the monitor it's fake and dosen't represent how the game really looks :roll: guess that make the Crysis 2 gifs in this thread FAKE aswell huh?

Becuase the smaller it is, the less details, and potential flaws you can see. Yes, they are not a representation, and i'm no lemming.

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]Gee I dont know???? Which group keeps bringing then up day after day? Who craeted this thread a cow or lem huh?

HavocV3

too bad 15 other games went multiplat to the 360.

you'd have a HUGE cow list then;)

Oh, and before cows start quoting this and calling me a lem...I actually agree that Uncharted 2 is the best looking game (on consoles) as of right now.