[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]No, it's there because the writers wrote themselves into a corner and needed a way to kill the Reapers. The fact that there has been no mention of it up until the point where we have full, working designs is a plot hole. If it were that goddamn important, someone would have found traces of it before then.
Yeah, it is. Especially considering Shepard can prove that organics and machines can co-exist with the quarians and the geth earlier in the game. The Catalyst's reasoning is incredibly, incredibly stupid.
Yeah, it is. Play through it again. When he/she wakes up, she overhears a radio transmission asking if anyone made it to the beam, to which the response is "No." If Anderson made it to the beam, they would have seen it.
The Citadel. Whatever. Point being, he shouldn't be there, especially so quickly after Shepard arrives. It doesn't gel.
She is shot and bleeding heavily. She collapses onto the elevator. Then when she gets off the elevator, all of that blood is gone, and she's able to stand just fine and capable of running into the beam in the Citadel should you chose to do so. Doesn't track.
Yeah, it is, more or less. Her being there "proves his solution won't work anymore." So he just randomly gives you the keys to undo everything he's done because he is incapable of taking action? That's a plot hole. Why would he do that? His solution doesn't work anymore, so he allows you the option to kill the Reapers and himself? Yeah.... no. Doesn't track.
It does when it's a major part of the story. The whole "You can't comprehend us bit?" It's yet another cop-out by BioWare's writing team because they wrote themselves into a corner.
The point is that it shouldn't be in danger at all. That pulse only targets Mass Relays. The only way it would be chasing them is if he'd already jumped, which there is no reason for him to do. So why did he jump? Jumping means the crew of the Normandy abandons the fight and runs. It's out of character and considering the Reapers are already dead or going away by the time the pulse that destroys the Relays happens, there is no reason for them to be jumping.
It wouldn't be a plot hole if the radio transmission didn't say that everyone who ran to the beam died regardless of you EMS.
Try again.
DarkLink77
No it isn't a plot hole...I am not sure you even know what a plot hole is. Nevermind the fact that nobody thought the Reapers were real, so the thing may not have seem importan or did no tknow th epurpose because they did not know the Reaperst. Doesn't matter, Liara figures it out and the several month gap gave her time. Try again. Where is the proof....what about the future of the geth/quarian relations, or the extremists like Gerrel....all it does it prove for now that there is peace and their is cooperation, may not be that way in the future. Nevermind that several characters including Javik doubts that peace will last. And bad guys can have flaws in their logic, look at Fallout. Wrong again, she is passed out inside the Citadel once she arrives. She wakes up and Anderson is ahead of her. No, The illusive Man was always there, trying to control the Reapers. I wonder why he wasn't at HQ. Doesn't prove anything, an irelavant point. Wrong, he is beaten, he can't stop Shepard from destroying the Reapers, he is just there to give more options. in fact, he thinks you want to destory them but he offers two more solutions if you have high EMS, but warns you that the chaos comes back if you destroy them. He does not prefer destory option but he can't stop her either. No there is no corner, in fact the writers even stated that their origins aren't even important in Final Hours. No, did you see the burst that hit Earth?....wooops. Forgot a detail there....then it hits the mass relays. And would he know it targeted the relays? No. No, it never implies everyone is dead, try again. The radio transmission only suggests at most that the attack fails. The attack being decimated does not always = everyone dying. Nevermind the survivors are falling back an dregrouping. Easily can be infered that your squad is pulling back. You are reaching for plot holes that don't exist.Okay, fine, I'll grant you the Crucible. It's still a deus ex machina, but whatever.
True, but it's still a cop-out and what you did with the quarian/geth should have played out in that conversation.
She doesn't pass out. She pulls herself off of the floor, which could just be a side-effect of her teleporting in there. Unless Anderson got sent to a completely different part of the Citadel, which is impossible, since there's only one way into that room, he should not be at the controls before Shepard is. And if she was passed out, Anderson would have passed her. he would have seen her. Why not try to wake her up or at least check her to maker sure she was dead? There is no explanation for Anderson getting to that console before Shepard does.
The fact that he is there so quickly doesn't make sense. Not that he's there.
It proves that they don't give a sh!t about continuity.
And why not? She has no idea what would have happened. He didn't have to tell her anything. But he did. Why?
I don't give a sh!t what the writers said. They introduced two deus ex machinas into ME3, one because they wrote themselves into a corner and another becaue they're idiots.
But he would have known that the beams weren't harmful to the people on Earth. And if not, all it would've taken was one transmission. So if everything was okay, why hurry to a Mass Relay and jump? It doesn't make sense. There's no reason for them to be jumping.
It suggests that pretty much everyone is dead. There is never any evoidence shown to the player to counteract that. Everyone you see is dead or dying, except you. It makes no sense that they would pull back. The way to end the war is right there, and once Harbinger leaves, there's nothing stopping them.
I'm not. Joker jumping the Normandy is a plot hole. It makes no sense. There is no reason for that to happen. There's no reason for Anderson to beat Shepard to the beam. There's no reason for the Catalyst to just give up, and there's no reason for your squad to pull back if they are alive when all they have to do is walk a few hundred feet to kill the Reapers.
Wrong, the Crucible is a MacGuffin, not a Deus Ex Machina. She obviously wakes up once she is in the Citadel disoriented. Nevermind that Anderson states he teleported in at a diferent location. No...TIM has been their all along since the Cerebrus HQ mission in his plan to control the Reapers. Because to get her to reconsider her decision. And how would he know the beams weren't harmful...and if you have low EMS the beams ARE HARMFUL. Still no evidence of a plot hole...although easily the crew will be addressed in the EC. Nevermind that Shep was KO'd and could easily be behind the Reaper's lines. There is not enough info to decalre plot hole as their is no proof of a contradiction. So according to you Joker outrunning danger is a plot hole....wow you are dense. Nevermind that the Catalyst gave his reason for "giving up", in that he has found new solutions due to the Crucible. You are making up plot holes and surely you don't even know what a plot hole is. 
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