Skyward Sword... FLOP of the gen thus far?

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#1 205212669269561485377169522720
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With the year practically over, it's pretty obvious that the flop of the year was totally The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword.:( (Unless people want to count Duke Nukem forever, which was practically known to be a failure for months before release:P)

But the question I ask... Is it the flop of the generation? We all know how big the Zelda series is and how many gamers, reviewers or game developers think the Zelda series has its own standard when it comes down to what it does.... But a 7.5?????:|

Pretty much one of the biggest games of the Wii and one of the most HYPE'd Wii games since Galaxy 2..? Not to mention the swag song to the phasing end of the Wii. The game was in development since late 2008 (full development after Spirit Tracks shipped in Q2 2009 + they started concept stages as soon as TP was shipped), and it didn't even manage to score AAE here, which GT5 at LEAST managed to do, same with Spore! What do y'all think?

If not, why do you think so and what will the biggest flop of the gen would be for you thus far? GT5? Spore? RAGE??

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#2 mmmwksil
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Pretty much, if we're playing the SW metagame.

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#3 SolidTy
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I bought Zelda : Skyward Sword Gold Controller CD bundle! :P

Maybe it's the flop of a generation for System Wars using Gamespot.com metagame...but, it's certainly a great videogame. Thanks Nintendo for giving us a True and proper Zelda Exclusive for the Wii. It took almost all generation, but it's arrived. Sure, it's an AAA at metacritic, and it's an A at Gamespot.com, but that's how the metagame works, lol.

As far as the drop, it was AAA HYPED and got two grades lower of a score A. However, the lack of Sheep outrage I think factors in too. Not sure if I care too much, but SS is certainly a contender for SW metagame, sure. :P

As far as reaction in SW, it's not like the Toilet Princess situation we had in SW, lol. Toilet Princess is trademarked by SolidTy Inc.


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#4 themajormayor
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flop/worst game of the gen

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#5 soulitane
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If you want to go by the amount of hype and score it received here then sure. Your other choices I'd also agree with apart from RAGE, I didn't see as much hype for that game as the others.
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#6 BrunoBRS
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Pretty much, if we're playing the SW metagame.

mmmwksil
this. but as far as the game itself goes. holy sh!t.
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#7 KungfuKitten
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It's the GS review flop of the gen yes. Talk about a cry for attention. The game is fine though.

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#8 foxhound_fox
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If "most recent big flop" is all that is necessary to win such an award, sure. However, looking at the whole generation, Lair, Too Human, Gran Turismo 5, Twilight Princess and Duke Nukem Forever definitely top SS.
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#9 bobbetybob
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I think there's worse flops, mainly because SS, similar to TP, is still a great game. Stuff like Duke Nukem Forever that took all that time and was then just average, and all the other mediocre games that got hyped or looked good massively outweigh a game that has fantastic scores overall.
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#10 vguy555
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Is it the flop of the gen? Yes.

Do I think the review score is justified? No.

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#11 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Pretty much, if we're playing the SW metagame.

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this. but as far as the game itself goes. holy sh!t.

Yo! I used that cuss and got modded last time!:o I thought censor bypass was gone??:|

If you want to go by the amount of hype and score it received here then sure. Your other choices I'd also agree with apart from RAGE, I didn't see as much hype for that game as the others.soulitane

Well RAGE, I mean it's pedigree made me feel that a 7.0 on the system that made iD popular, is just amazingly disappointing.:| Like seriously? Especially after DOOM 3?:? How low can you go.:o

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#12 DarkLink77
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Eh, if we don't count Duke Nukem Forever.

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#13 Shinobishyguy
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If we're going by reactions, TP flopping caused a much greater sh*tstorm
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#14 SaltyMeatballs
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Too Human, that game had some hype, got a low review on Gamespot.
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#15 205212669269561485377169522720
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If we're going by reactions, TP flopping caused a much greater sh*tstormShinobishyguy

For sure, no doubt and we'll never get anything like that, ever. Which is some what disappointing in a way.:( However, TP was still a GC game ported over to the Wii, so last gen in a manner.:P

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#16 fueled-system
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GT5 was a bigger flop but its a big flop by system wars standards no matter how terrible of a reviews it is
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#17 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]If we're going by reactions, TP flopping caused a much greater sh*tstormsanim02

For sure, no doubt and we'll never get anything like that, ever. Which is some what disappointing in a way.:( However, TP was still a GC game ported over to the Wii, so last gen in a manner.:P

at this point the wii's reputation was so damaged that people just didn't give a sh*t if it flopped or not, the damage was already done. That being said I'm personally finding SS to be much better than TP is most areas.

Plus Jeff's review seemed a hell of alot more legit than Tom's

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#18 foxhound_fox
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However, TP was still a GC game ported over to the Wii, so last gen in a manner.:Psanim02
A game released on the Wii first and came out a year after the gen started. Definitely last gen.
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#19 madsnakehhh
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Of the year? yeah, maybe, of the gen? not at all.

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#20 205212669269561485377169522720
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I bought Zelda : Skyward Sword Gold Controller CD bundle! :P

Maybe it's the flop of a generation for System Wars using Gamespot.com metagame...but, it's certainly a great videogame. Thanks Nintendo for giving us a True and proper Zelda Exclusive for the Wii. It took almost all generation, but it's arrived. Sure, it's an AAA at metacritic, and it's an A at Gamespot.com, but that's how the metagame works, lol.

As far as reaction in SW, it's not like the Toilet Princess situation we had in SW, lol. Toilet Princess is trademarked by SolidTy Enterprises.


SolidTy

:lol:

Yeah this game was built from the ground up for the Wii, not like Toilet Princess that was a last gen game ported over to the Wii.:P One thing that sure bugs me is how even GT5 managed to at least score an 8, despite being a big disappointment... But SS gets a 7.5?? ZELDA?:| It's amazing how it flops on its 25th anniversary too.:P

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#21 soulitane
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Well RAGE, I mean it's pedigree made me feel that a 7.0 on the system that made iD popular, is just amazingly disappointing.:| Like seriously? Especially after DOOM 3?:? How low can you go.:o
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I fully forgot all the problems it had with the PC :P

I still think the others were bigger flops considering the hype that the games got, I'm not sure how spore was hyped on here but I do know in general it was hyped a lot on the internet. It was known for quite a while that RAGE was just going to be a console port so I don't think PC gamers had that high expectations for it but obviously they wouldn't think it was going to be that bad. Guess we'll have to wait for doom 4 to see if they can still make a graphical powerhouse for the PC :P

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#22 lamprey263
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Well, I haven't played it yet, don't know what to think of it and I'm not going to let one review let me declare it a flop. I still plan on getting it, but in the meantime I'm taking my time with Skyrim, not going to rush through this. I'm surprised Metroid Other M did get a good GS review, everyone seems to hate it (except me), I didn't think it was utterly excellent but I didn't think it was as bad as some made it out to be, I think many people seemed to echo the X-Play review of Other M more than formulate their own opinion. Anyhow, regardless of the GS SW score prediction and review flop rules there's many other notable flops just off sheer anticipation vs the professional critical reception, fan reception, and/or sales. Some games got bad reviews but sold well, sometimes the opposite, just depends how you look at it.
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The most boring zelda game i ever have play.......7.5 it is a very fair score.FLOP....lol
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The most boring zelda game i ever have play.......7.5 it is a very fair score.FLOP....lolAtariKidX
The most boring game of the most boring franchise?? Damn this game must really suck
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#25 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="sanim02"]However, TP was still a GC game ported over to the Wii, so last gen in a manner.:Pfoxhound_fox
A game released on the Wii first and came out a year after the gen started. Definitely last gen.

A game developed for the GC for two years and pushed back a whole year, despite being practically ready for shipment for a Wii-side launch? Yup totally last gen. It's not like it differed from the GC version by a mile either, but hey I guess if mirror world and tacked-on motion controls is your thing.:P

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#26 Krelian-co
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It's the GS review flop of the gen yes. Talk about a cry for attention. The game is fine though.

KungfuKitten

pretty much this.

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The most boring zelda game i ever have play.......7.5 it is a very fair score.FLOP....lolAtariKidX
Gee it sure is fun talking crap about games you've never played huh?
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#28 Silverbond
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GT5 is the bigger flop.
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#29 incuensuocha
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Only in System Wars. In the real world, which is where we all live, Skyward Sword has been a critical and commercial success.
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#30 Floppy_Jim
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In descending order, the Richter sacle of flop:

Duke Nukem Forever, Lair, Too Human- a 10 on the scale. Catastrophic flops a mutha won't soon forget. This s*** is some house of pancakes floppage.

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Zelda: Skyward Sword. A sizable e-ripple was felt. Long term effects won't be too bad but no one saw 7.5 coming.

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RAGE, GT5, Spore. Shocking at the time but who cares now?

As you see it belongs in the middle.

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#31 Grawse
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GT5 for sure. Cows were CERTAIN it was going to at least match Forza 3's 9.5. Plus the damage control that ensued for the next couple months was magical.

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#32 amaneuvering
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Well it's a flop on Gamespot but really only on Gamespot.

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#33 xXShortroundXx
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Gamespots flop of the gen.

In the real world however...

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[QUOTE="sanim02"]Well RAGE, I mean it's pedigree made me feel that a 7.0 on the system that made iD popular, is just amazingly disappointing.:| Like seriously? Especially after DOOM 3?:? How low can you go.:o
soulitane

I fully forgot all the problems it had with the PC :P

I still think the others were bigger flops considering the hype that the games got, I'm not sure how spore was hyped on here but I do know in general it was hyped a lot on the internet. It was known for quite a while that RAGE was just going to be a console port so I don't think PC gamers had that high expectations for it but obviously they wouldn't think it was going to be that bad. Guess we'll have to wait for doom 4 to see if they can still make a graphical powerhouse for the PC :P

Or for that matter, I wonder if Id can still make a good game at all.
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#35 tonitorsi
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.............why do this? :P

It couldnt be any mo' obvious.

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#36 Chutebox
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I'd say Too Human and Duke were bigger flops

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#37 Chris_Williams
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GT5 was a bigger flop but its a big flop by system wars standards no matter how terrible of a reviews it isfueled-system
zelda got a 7.5 and gt5 got a 8, i mean at the end of the day, gt5 scored higher then zelda.........just saying. But Duke Nukem was the biggest flop here, a game 10 years in the making gets a 3.5, come on now

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#38 crimsonman1245
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Shouldnt the game get low scores from a majority of reviewers to be a real flop?

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#39 johny300
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Duke Nukem.
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#40 -CheeseEater-
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Tom McShea, forever_trollin'. No more need be said really.
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#41 mems_1224
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i haven't played it but its been getting amazing reviews. idk how that can be considered a flop :|
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#42 vguy555
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i haven't played it but its been getting amazing reviews. idk how that can be considered a flop :|mems_1224
It's considered a flop on Gamespot only. Even though this game has been getting 9s and 10s everywhere, SW only cares about its 7.5 from Gamespot. :P

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#43 lundy86_4
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i haven't played it but its been getting amazing reviews. idk how that can be considered a flop :|mems_1224

I do. Due to the System Wars definition.

Game is bomb.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]i haven't played it but its been getting amazing reviews. idk how that can be considered a flop :|lundy86_4

I do. Due to the System Wars definition.

Game is bomb.

well if i only went by gamespot scores id have a terrible taste in games so i tend to make my own opinions :P
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#45 HoolaHoopMan
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If "most recent big flop" is all that is necessary to win such an award, sure. However, looking at the whole generation, Lair, Too Human, Gran Turismo 5, Twilight Princess and Duke Nukem Forever definitely top SS.

Forgot about Lair, my god that game was hyped through the roof and only scored a 4.5, yeesh.
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#46 Nengo_Flow
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Shouldnt the game get low scores from a majority of reviewers to be a real flop?

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IF it is not AAA=9.0 then its all floppage. C'mon son, everyone knows that. WAIT! dont tell me you are one of those people who actually buy games rated lower than 9.0? thats just insane bro
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#47 elbert_b_23
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i don't own a wii and more due to moving and i have no want to play the game but come on Tom McShea's opinion doesn't count nearly all of his reviews are 1-2 points lower then the average its getting starting to get sad
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#48 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]i haven't played it but its been getting amazing reviews. idk how that can be considered a flop :|mems_1224

I do. Due to the System Wars definition.

Game is bomb.

well if i only went by gamespot scores id have a terrible taste in games so i tend to make my own opinions :P

Hey, nothing wrong with that!

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#49 princemarth23
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One of the best games this gen too, imo. Tom can have his opinion, but in MY opinion, he's dead wrong.

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There were a few games that flopped so hard that it ruined the companies that made them.

Too Human - Silicon Knights made one of the finest games of last gen in Eternal Darkness, and then they made Too Human which flopped so hard that the dev fell off the radar, making the disappointing Xmen Destiny and have since had to lay off much of their staff. They seem to be virtually dead unless Nintendo or MS bails them out.

Haze - Free Radical is the team that made Goldeneye on the n64 and went on to make the fantastic Timesplitters games. Then they made Haze, which flopped so hard that they folded and were eventually bought by Crytek to do grunt work for them. The fall of Free Radical also nuked the Star Wars Battlefront series, which they were developing but had to scrap. Free Radical turfed development but kept the rights to the game, and that led to a chain of events that put the rights to SWBF3 to Rebellion, a shovelware dev.

Lair:Factor 5 was a smaller independant dev but they have been around a couple decades, making games like R-Type, Turrican, and the SW Rogue Squadron series. The release of Lair gave them no money even after making a patch that ditched the awful sixaxis control. The damage was done. They no longer have the ability to make games. They will likely end up like Free Radical, bought up by a big fish.