Skyward Sword... FLOP of the gen thus far?

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#51 Chemical_Viking
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A broken, out of date, rehash of a 7.5.

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#52 Lost-Memory
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The thing is, These games are reviewed by different folks at different times. are you seriously going to take one dudes opinion over playing it and finding out yourself ? If i listened to every review i read, i'd be so sad.
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#53 Shinobishyguy
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A broken, out of date, rehash of a 7.5.

Chemical_Viking
still less broken than skyrim.
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#54 bobcheeseball
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Even if we are using Gamespot metagame only it'd be triumphed by DNF.
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#55 MLBknights58
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If we're playing SW metagame, yes.

It's still probably the top title for me released so far. This or Dark Souls.

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#56 Mr_Cumberdale
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I think that goes to MW2. Think of the potential that was MW, and how it turned to crap with MW2.
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#57 SF_KiLLaMaN
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If we're going by GS alone then yes. If we are going by all of its scores, it is one of the greatest games this gen.
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#58 lild1425
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I have difficulty justifying that one person's review makes a game a flop when it receives top marks from just about everywhere else.

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I think that goes to MW2. Think of the potential that was MW, and how it turned to crap with MW2.Mr_Cumberdale

I just want to meet the people that wrote the plot to the last 2 games. The russians invading the the east coast of the US? The Russians launching a suprise attack on all of western Europe and reaching Paris in a day? Jesus ****ing christ.

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#60 Demonjoe93
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What was the hype for Duke Nukem Forever?

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#61 princemarth23
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A broken, out of date, rehash of a 7.5.

Chemical_Viking

What does this even mean? It isn't broken, it's much fresher than MANY sequels being put out today, and it isn't rehashing anything.

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#62 Chemical_Viking
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[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

A broken, out of date, rehash of a 7.5.

Shinobishyguy

still less broken than skyrim.

Yeah but...Skyrim. Seriously. Different class. There's so much to it. It's not a linear sub hd rehash.

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#63 Chemical_Viking
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[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

A broken, out of date, rehash of a 7.5.

princemarth23

What does this even mean? It isn't broken, it's much fresher than MANY sequels being put out today, and it isn't rehashing anything.

Baaaaaa. Do you parrot everything Nintendo tells you?

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#64 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="princemarth23"]

[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

A broken, out of date, rehash of a 7.5.

Chemical_Viking

What does this even mean? It isn't broken, it's much fresher than MANY sequels being put out today, and it isn't rehashing anything.

Baaaaaa. Do you parrot everything Nintendo tells you?

No worse than you parroting every other nintendo hater

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#65 Chemical_Viking
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[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

[QUOTE="princemarth23"]

What does this even mean? It isn't broken, it's much fresher than MANY sequels being put out today, and it isn't rehashing anything.

Shinobishyguy

Baaaaaa. Do you parrot everything Nintendo tells you?

No worse than you parroting every other nintendo hater

LOL I don't need to parrot anyone. For the record, I'm mostly against the fandom not the company.
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#66 bbkkristian
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It's amazing how it flops on its 25th anniversary too.:P

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I don't think Nintendo cares that one lonely website gave it a low score :P

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#67 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

Baaaaaa. Do you parrot everything Nintendo tells you?

Chemical_Viking

No worse than you parroting every other nintendo hater

LOL I don't need to parrot anyone. For the record, I'm mostly against the fandom not the company.

So you don't play the games because they are loved? You shouldn't be hating on the game for what the fans have done.
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#68 Chemical_Viking
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So you don't play the games because they are loved? You shouldn't be hating on the game for what the fans have done.bbkkristian
That first bit makes no sense. Have another go.
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#69 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] No worse than you parroting every other nintendo hater

bbkkristian

LOL I don't need to parrot anyone. For the record, I'm mostly against the fandom not the company.

So you don't play the games because they are loved? You shouldn't be hating on the game for what the fans have done.

It's pretty damn obvious that he was never a fan of zelda in the first place. No wonder he clings to the few negative reviews this game has in order to validate his hatred torwards the franchise.

it's what trolls do man

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#70 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]So you don't play the games because they are loved? You shouldn't be hating on the game for what the fans have done.Chemical_Viking
That first bit makes no sense. Have another go.

Misunderstood what you said. Move on. :P
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#71 EPaul
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Definately , the reaction was very tame though nothing like TP 8.8 probably because SW was so strict

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#72 Big_Pecks
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A broken, out of date, rehash of a 7.5.

Chemical_Viking



I'm guessing you haven't played the game?

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#73 Vesica_Prime
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Duke Nukem Forever

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#74 NaveedLife
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Definitely not. Believe me, its not the 10 or OoT killer I thought it may be, but it is an awesome game that is a welcome addition to the Zelda series, even if it dissapoints me in a couple areas. I would say the biggest dissapointment this gen is among RE5 and Metroid Prime 3 for me.

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#75 g0ddyX
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Definitely not. Believe me, its not the 10 or OoT killer I thought it may be, but it is an awesome game that is a welcome addition to the Zelda series, even if it dissapoints me in a couple areas. I would say the biggest dissapointment this gen is among RE5 and Metroid Prime 3 for me.

NaveedLife



Resident Evil 5 worked great on co-op and Wesker was brilliant too.

Zelda Skyward Sword is indeed the Flop of the generation.
Cos every Zelda fan rated it 9+ and hailed as the Ocarina of Time this generation.

Lair wasnt rated or hyped as much as Zelda
Duke Nukem was said to be poor, but later we found out it was even worse than that.
GT5 flop? Its doing quite well now with the patch. Decent racing game. Took a while to make it.

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#76 Riverwolf007
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compared to gran turismo? pfft.

ss is not even close, gran turismo was literally hyped everyday for 4 years as the best thing ever. if sheep rubbed everyones nose in ss everyday for year upon year it could have been a contender but without that factor every flop will always be second fiddle to gt5.

gt is flop of all time and it is not even close.

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#77 campzor
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yep. Duke shouldnt really count as no one really expected that to do any good with 13 year development. Also this is nintendos key franchise so... lol
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#78 cainetao11
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I always thought the metagame here went only by the hype a game has, and the score it receives on GS. Metacritic, user scores, player opinions aside. The game is a heavyweight of massive proportions, and it flopped hard. My vote is yes it is the flop of the Gen. If Halo 4 scores a 7.5 it is tied for it.
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#79 mysticstryk
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Pretty much, if we're playing the SW metagame.

mmmwksil

The absolute failure of a review by gamespot makes the SW metagame a joke. Toms opinion on the game is irrelevent.

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#80 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Definitely not. Believe me, its not the 10 or OoT killer I thought it may be, but it is an awesome game that is a welcome addition to the Zelda series, even if it dissapoints me in a couple areas. I would say the biggest dissapointment this gen is among RE5 and Metroid Prime 3 for me.

g0ddyX



Resident Evil 5 worked great on co-op and Wesker was brilliant too.

Zelda Skyward Sword is indeed the Flop of the generation.
Cos every Zelda fan rated it 9+ and hailed as the Ocarina of Time this generation.

Lair wasnt rated or hyped as much as Zelda
Duke Nukem was said to be poor, but later we found out it was even worse than that.
GT5 flop? Its doing quite well now with the patch. Decent racing game. Took a while to make it.

I wasn't aware this thread was about the score GS gave it. If that is so, then sure, I guess so. I just assumed that since it was a question directed at us, it was our opinion ;). My opinion is its a great game that deserves a 9 (I think, almost done with it).

Resident Evil 5 is a FAR CRY from the maserpiece that is Resident Evil 4. It is a solid game, but nowhere near 4, and likely Revelations.

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#81 Eponique
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Twilight Princess was bigger in scale. Lair was bigger in score. Skyward Sword is just your average huge flop.
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#82 madsnakehhh
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Twilight Princess was bigger in scale. Lair was bigger in score. Skyward Sword is just your average huge flop.Eponique

Indeed, in fact in EVERY single Flop thread, the game that recently flopped is always the Biggest Flop of the gen...:roll:

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#83 polFdrawykS
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definitely flop of the gen.. its called skyward flop for a reason.. and of course the 2nd flop of the gen is GT5lop
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#84 ActicEdge
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Definitely the biggest flop of gen no contest.

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#85 nhh18
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Biggest flop commericially too. The game flopped in japan and europe. Dunno about north america but it sold 500k on black friday weekend. I guess that is great but I doubt it will reach twilight princess numbers there either. Kind of sad that this will sell less than all the other zelda games except majora mask by a large margin

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#86 TREAL_Since
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1.) It's Zelda

2.) HYPEd AAA (even said by some to be beter than OoT)

3.) Scored 7.5

This leads me to believe it is the biggest flop this gen :P. After that comes GT5, Too Human, and LAIR.

If you're looking for Biggest Shock/Meltdown, that would go Twilight Princess.

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#87 LegatoSkyheart
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As long as there is Duke Nukem Forever.

There can never be another Flop.

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#88 TREAL_Since
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Biggest flop commericially too. The game flopped in japan and europe. Dunno about north america but it sold 500k on black friday weekend. I guess that is great but I doubt it will reach twilight princess numbers there either. Kind of sad that this will sell less than all the other zelda games except majora mask by a large margin

nhh18

That sucks. It'll sell pretty well over time though. At this point most of them are in it for the party games or anything with Mario in it. Understandable. You can't expect all of those Wii consoles out there to be owned by core gamers. And out of the core gamers that own a Wii, lets say they make up 30% of the userbase, they won't all buy Zelda or Xenoblade (the best Wii games by far).

Do you think most core gamers are switching to, or playing more of the PS3/360/PC?

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#89 RavenLoud
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GT5.

It had twice as many posts than the Zelda thread.

Post count is directly proportional to butthurt so it must be the bigger flop by far. :P

Made better than SS flop because unlike GT5, Zelda fans did not have a extremely similar product from a competing console maker (Forza vs. GT) on which their fanboys could have insulted for years while saying "Just wait", only to get utterly owned.

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#90 TREAL_Since
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GT5.

It had twice as many posts than the Zelda thread.

Post count is directly proportional to butthurt so it must be the bigger flop by far. :P

Made better than SS flop because unlike GT5, Zelda fans did not have a extremely similar product from a competing console maker (Forza vs. GT) on which their fanboys could have insulted for years while saying "Just wait", only to get utterly owned.

RavenLoud

The higher post count would make it a bigger meltdown, not necessarily a bigger flop. The meltdown is the result of the flop. Sure, GT5's meltdown was big. But I'm not sure it was as big as the Twilight Princess one lol.

I can't deny that the ownage of us GT fans saying "just wait" was a monumental backfire lol. GT5 flopping was one of the biggest moments of ownage on a fanbase than almost ever before :(.

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#91 hiphops_savior
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Lair, Haze and Too Human says hi.
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#92 Wanderer5
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Lair, hyped AA and got a 4.5.

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#93 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"]

GT5.

It had twice as many posts than the Zelda thread.

Post count is directly proportional to butthurt so it must be the bigger flop by far. :P

Made better than SS flop because unlike GT5, Zelda fans did not have a extremely similar product from a competing console maker (Forza vs. GT) on which their fanboys could have insulted for years while saying "Just wait", only to get utterly owned.

TREAL_Since

The higher post count would make it a bigger meltdown, not necessarily a bigger flop. The meltdown is the result of the flop. Sure, GT5's meltdown was big. But I'm not sure it was as big as the Twilight Princess one lol.

I can't deny that the ownage of us GT fans saying "just wait" was a monumental backfire lol. GT5 flopping was one of the biggest moments of ownage on a fanbase than almost ever before :(.

Well if we go by this thread, http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26072117, it would appear that GT5 has the bigger meltdown by post count. Wouldn't be fair to the millions of account suicide posts insulting Jeff I guess, I wasn't there at the time so I can't say. Though I heard that the sheep pretty much went extinct after that.
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#94 musalala
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More like the biggest flop in the history of gamespot.

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#95 Mozelleple112
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I think GS was the only site Nintendo forget to pay.

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#96 sailor232
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My personal flop of the gen goes to Uncharted 3. I had such massive hopes for it after the 2nd and all I got was the same looking enemies thrown at me every 3 minutes and a main character who has the worste luck in history. Other than that I'd say the biggest flop would be Kinect and Move.

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#97 Kandlegoat
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One of the best "Flops" I played this gen.

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#98 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

A broken, out of date, rehash of a 7.5.

Chemical_Viking

still less broken than skyrim.

Yeah but...Skyrim. Seriously. Different class. There's so much to it. It's not a linear sub hd rehash.

I hate to break it to you, but Skyrim is also linear for the most part..and i'm saying this as a person who greatly enjoys the game.

Sure,you have a huge world to explore and you're able to do quests/side quests in whatever order...but most of the actual quests/side quests themselves are straight-forward and scripted.

Non Linear is when you're given a objective or quest and offered multiple ways to complete it based on items or character skill/abilities...when talking RPGs......And so far from the 40 hours I put in Skyrim,hardly any of the quests fit this definition.

You wanna bash Zelda...knock yourself out,but know what the f*ck your talking about before doing so.

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#99 ActionRemix
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Eh, if we don't count Duke Nukem Forever.

DarkLink77
Nobody in their right mind hyped DNF. Sheep thought that Skyward Sword would be the Game of the Generation and Game of the Decade.
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#100 cainetao11
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Lair, Haze and Too Human says hi.hiphops_savior
none of those have the pedigree of Zelda. No comparison, imo.