Batman blows Zelda out of the water in every single aspect except "Nostalgia factor".
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I think a distinction begs to be made here
Game length in Zelda hours is different from game length is other shorter games.
The starting 5 hours of Zelda were an absolute chore, and Zelda is always filled with so much filler travel, and text. In terms of travel, in SS to travel from one end of the sky map to the other took soooooo long, and it had to be done a decent amount for side quests and those goddess cubes. It was very annoying. Also reading all that text over and over takes up atleast 5 hours of gameplay time. Its just not fun.
Arkham City on the other hand was a blast from start to finish. There was barely a dull moment. So taking that into consideration. The 20 hours it took be to complete AC vs the 25 hours it took me to complete SS, both 100%, I'd say AC was much much better.
The entire filler argument against Skyward Sword is way to over blown. There were a couple of times where it did feel like needless crap (tad tones and stuff like that), but most of the time it had you doing things that you would be doing in any other zelda dungeon.
ASassins Creed was pretty good IMO.Um what?
I guess I liked zelda more. Didn't really see why AC was so hpyed. Great game though.
goblaa
ASassins Creed was pretty good IMO.[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="goblaa"]
Um what?
I guess I liked zelda more. Didn't really see why AC was so hpyed. Great game though.
goblaa
No it wasn't. The first Assassin's Creed was god awful.
GOD AWFUL? AC2 was assasin Creed one with a stripped stealth mode made much more difficult to use, and other than maybe more different sidequests and a more lengthy story, both were basically the same game. So if AC is GOD Awful, AC2 is hell and ACB is crap, and only ACR is actually decent.[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"] ASassins Creed was pretty good IMO.StatusShuffle
No it wasn't. The first Assassin's Creed was god awful.
GOD AWFUL? AC2 was assasin Creed one with a stripped stealth mode made much more difficult to use, and other than maybe more different sidequests and a more lengthy story, both were basically the same game. So if AC is GOD Awful, AC2 is hell and ACB is crap, and only ACR is actually decent.What?!
AC to AC2 was one of the biggest jumps in any franchise I saw this Gen...
AC2 fixed nearly all AC1's flaws,plus brought many new changes and improvements,like economy,new era,fully new character,customization,etc...
I loved all AC games,but the first one would got repetative after some time,and start dragging on,all missions played exactly the same,do a few grinding quests like races,and assassinate the target...
AC2 fully solved that problem,by bringing in a lot of variety.And LOL at "stripped stealth mode".The stealth got improved,no trade-offs were made...
GOD AWFUL? AC2 was assasin Creed one with a stripped stealth mode made much more difficult to use, and other than maybe more different sidequests and a more lengthy story, both were basically the same game. So if AC is GOD Awful, AC2 is hell and ACB is crap, and only ACR is actually decent.[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="goblaa"]
No it wasn't. The first Assassin's Creed was god awful.
Rocker6
What?!
AC to AC2 was one of the biggest jumps in any franchise I saw this Gen...
AC2 fixed nearly all AC1's flaws,plus brought many new changes and improvements,like economy,new era,fully new character,customization,etc...
I loved all AC games,but the first one would got repetative after some time,and start dragging on,all missions played exactly the same,do a few grinding quests like races,and assassinate the target...
AC2 fully solved that problem,by bringing in a lot of variety.And LOL at "stripped stealth mode".The stealth got improved,no trade-offs were made...
AC to AC2 is the biggest jump you have seen this gen? Really? Are you serious? Jup is not that big at all. AC2 did not fix much of many of AC1's problems, it either left it there and tried to cover it up, or replaced it with just at irritatin elements. New era and new character are not imporvements, those ar changes. AC2 is highly repetitive after you beat the story mode, maybe just slightly less than AC1. and LOL AC2 did not solve the repetiton problem, a lot of quests in AC2 are repetitive themselves. Like I said, they just covered everything in gold. Brotherhood tried that to, but people noticed that brother hood did almost no fixing of AC2's problems. Revelations however, actually started to fix things.I love both games. Of course, my favorite franchise is the Zelda franchise. But I'm a huge fan of action/adventure games like Zelda, Metroid, and now Batman which seems to be more similar to Metroid than necessarily Zelda. Batman is fantastic.
Of course here in system wars, a Zelda game or Nintendo console will never survive the might of 3rd party development. I bought both, and thoroughly enjoyed both.
Huge Batman fan, and Huge Zelda Fan! I got both of these games for Christmas, and I gotta say that I was way more hyped for Zelda than I was for Batman. But Batman was by far the superior game.
It was better than its predecessor and made improvements in alot of ways (although the camera prevents it from being perfect in my book).
Skyword Sword mixed some stuff up and started off strong, but annoying things like the underwater notes, a lackluster boss (compared to Ocarina and Skyword Sword Imo), looking for those stupid parts of the key to get into the level, and the fact that Fi would hold my hand at times.
IMO Arkham City was more of a Zelda game than Skyword Sword
Pretty much sums up wat I was thinking.I love both games. Of course, my favorite franchise is the Zelda franchise. But I'm a huge fan of action/adventure games like Zelda, Metroid, and now Batman which seems to be more similar to Metroid than necessarily Zelda. Batman is fantastic.
Of course here in system wars, a Zelda game or Nintendo console will never survive the might of 3rd party development. I bought both, and thoroughly enjoyed both.
sonic_spark
[QUOTE="Rocker6"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"] GOD AWFUL? AC2 was assasin Creed one with a stripped stealth mode made much more difficult to use, and other than maybe more different sidequests and a more lengthy story, both were basically the same game. So if AC is GOD Awful, AC2 is hell and ACB is crap, and only ACR is actually decent.StatusShuffle
What?!
AC to AC2 was one of the biggest jumps in any franchise I saw this Gen...
AC2 fixed nearly all AC1's flaws,plus brought many new changes and improvements,like economy,new era,fully new character,customization,etc...
I loved all AC games,but the first one would got repetative after some time,and start dragging on,all missions played exactly the same,do a few grinding quests like races,and assassinate the target...
AC2 fully solved that problem,by bringing in a lot of variety.And LOL at "stripped stealth mode".The stealth got improved,no trade-offs were made...
AC to AC2 is the biggest jump you have seen this gen? Really? Are you serious? Jup is not that big at all. AC2 did not fix much of many of AC1's problems, it either left it there and tried to cover it up, or replaced it with just at irritatin elements. New era and new character are not imporvements, those ar changes. AC2 is highly repetitive after you beat the story mode, maybe just slightly less than AC1. and LOL AC2 did not solve the repetiton problem, a lot of quests in AC2 are repetitive themselves. Like I said, they just covered everything in gold. Brotherhood tried that to, but people noticed that brother hood did almost no fixing of AC2's problems. Revelations however, actually started to fix things.Read my post again,please.I clearly said changes AND improvements,and AC2 did bring a lot of new and positive stuff...
AC2 story missions are very solid,there were quite a few memorable ones,and interesting and distinct locales add further variety.There's no boring repetition,some side missions are a bit boring,but they're optional.In AC,those boring grind missions are mandatory...
Also,when you beat the story mode,and do a 100% completion,nearly all games become boring and repetative.So don't try to pin that as a criticism of AC series...
As I said,I love AC franchise,but AC Revelations is the weakest link in the series,it felt very similiar to its predcessors,and didn't introduced any worthwhile new elements,just some forced "innovations" that fell flat,like that "tower defense",and awkward Desomond plaforming sections
AC to AC2 is the biggest jump you have seen this gen? Really? Are you serious? Jup is not that big at all. AC2 did not fix much of many of AC1's problems, it either left it there and tried to cover it up, or replaced it with just at irritatin elements. New era and new character are not imporvements, those ar changes. AC2 is highly repetitive after you beat the story mode, maybe just slightly less than AC1. and LOL AC2 did not solve the repetiton problem, a lot of quests in AC2 are repetitive themselves. Like I said, they just covered everything in gold. Brotherhood tried that to, but people noticed that brother hood did almost no fixing of AC2's problems. Revelations however, actually started to fix things.[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]
What?!
AC to AC2 was one of the biggest jumps in any franchise I saw this Gen...
AC2 fixed nearly all AC1's flaws,plus brought many new changes and improvements,like economy,new era,fully new character,customization,etc...
I loved all AC games,but the first one would got repetative after some time,and start dragging on,all missions played exactly the same,do a few grinding quests like races,and assassinate the target...
AC2 fully solved that problem,by bringing in a lot of variety.And LOL at "stripped stealth mode".The stealth got improved,no trade-offs were made...
Rocker6
Read my post again,please.I clearly said changes AND improvements,and AC2 did bring a lot of new and positive stuff...
AC2 story missions are very solid,there were quite a few memorable ones,and interesting and distinct locales add further variety.There's no boring repetition,some side missions are a bit boring,but they're optional.In AC,those boring grind missions are mandatory...
Also,when you beat the story mode,and do a 100% completion,nearly all games become boring and repetative.So don't try to pin that as a criticism of AC series...
As I said,I love AC franchise,but AC Revelations is the weakest link in the series,it felt very similiar to its predcessors,and didn't introduced any worthwhile new elements,just some forced "innovations" that fell flat,like that "tower defense",and awkward Desomond plaforming sections
I pin it on the series, because it MAKES YOU do them during the game a lot of the time, so when you get to 100% you DON'T WANT TO DO THEM AGAIN, with like 1 exception. I also never said that ACR is the best game, but by the orinal poster i was talking to who said AC1 is GOD AWFUL. If AC1 is GOD AWFUl than AC2 is crap, ACB is right above trash, and ACR is decent. But you are saying AC1 is good, so not sure what problem is.The OP of this thread is asking "which one would I like?"
in which case, Arkhan city, seeing as I already own and have beaten Skyward Sword.
A fantasy action-adventure with puzzle-solving versus a beat em up made after a movie. So comparable.
While I gave both games a rare 9.5/10 from me and consider them two of the best games this gen, I'd have to give the honours to Batman Arkham City. It just does so many different ambitious things so perfectly well
A fantasy action-adventure with puzzle-solving versus a beat em up made after a movie. So comparable.
nameless12345
It's a fantasy action-adventure with puzzle solving verses a fantasy action adventure with puzzle-solving... They are decently comparable IMHO. It's just that Arkham City has a very large stealth component as well.
P.S.The Arkham games weren't made after or for any movie. They are based solely on the Batman comicverse
A fantasy action-adventure with puzzle-solving versus a beat em up made after a movie. So comparable.
nameless12345
So you know nothing about Batman?
Tough one my 2 favorite pics from last year but I'd have to give Arkham City the edge. It had great atmosphere,cast of characters and plenty of replay value but I won't lie Skyward Sword was well worth the 40 hours I put into it.
Well the two are completely different games but Arkham City. It was more well made and stuff. I still enjoyed Skyward Sword quite a bit as I am a longtime Zelda fan, but I enjoyed AC more.
Both have faults. Didn't like SS as much as other 3D Zeldas but it was good. Haven't played much of Arkham City but if it still has detective mode making it super easy then that hurts it there.bonesawisready5
Oh yeah, because it's on like 100% of the game right?? Stupid excuse as the game only forces you to go Detective mode on a couple of occasions.
gotta give Arkham City this one.
Skyward Sword is one of my least Favorite Zeldas, But Arkham City can be put up in the Greatest Games of All Time Hall of Fame, along with Metroid Prime, Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy 7 and Golden Eye.
they are 2 differnt games. both very good. but of the 2 batman games, ive played and beat them both 2x and sold them...probably about 50 hours. SS i have over 100 hours and hero mode adds a difficulty to the game that has been lacking from all other zelda games. not to mention that nintendo did more for the video game world with SS then Batman did with AC.da_chub
Really??? Like what???????
FTFYWat? Two completely different games that share almost no similarities. At any rate SS is still a much better games with more polish and better gameplay compared to AC.
inb4uall
[QUOTE="inb4uall"]FTFY lol no. Thats is you being a fanboy. AC is one of the very best games this gen. SS was good, but not great the way AC was.Wat? Two completely different games that share almost no similarities. At any rate SS is still a much better games with more polish and better gameplay compared to AC.
YoshiYogurt
Arkham City is way better. Don't get me wrong, Zelda is still good, but it's nowhere near as good as people make it out to be.
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