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#101 campzor
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Arkham city is just too good.
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#102 princemarth23
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I didn't finish either game, but I played SS far more so I have to go with that. I also did like it better.

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#103 driftwood606
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Skyward sword has great motion controls, a great clerification of the Zelda story as a whole, great puzzles and level design as with any of the other zelda. Arkham City has a great follow up to Asylum, improves the combat and almost all of the other gadgets. But the two game share a common fault to me. Both the worlds in which the games take place in seem small. However batman does save itself with having a very active world, in which Skyward swords world didnt. But on the other hand the story in SS makes up for the empty world because it takes place when there arent any real towns or anything yet at that point. Both games also share another thing. They both have very simple combat that is just so fun that it doesnt matter how simple they are. But in my opinion, Skyward Sword wins for me because i just simply prefer the great controls and combat in that game over the great controls and combat in batman. But both are great games.

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#104 zassimick  Moderator
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I have to go with Arkham City on this one. It was one incredible experience.

Skyward Sword was a good game but I had some problems with it, it just wasn't my favorite Zelda title. :?

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#105 rjdofu
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A fantasy action-adventure with puzzle-solving versus a beat em up made after a movie. So comparable.

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Funny thing is that some Arkham city puzzles are actually harder than SS.
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#106 YearoftheSnake5
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Skyward Sword was okay. Definitely not Zelda's best outing. Honestly, I'd say Arkham City is better.

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#107 g0ddyX
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Skyward - If i was 12
Batman - If i was over

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#108 tryagainlater
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Odd choice but Arkham City.

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#109 MirkoS77
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Batman wins.
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#110 bulby_g
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Skyward Sword for me.

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#111 freedomfreak
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I haven't even played SS but Batman>Link

So Arkham City>SS

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#112 Sagem28
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not to mention that nintendo did more for the video game world with SS then Batman did with AC.da_chub

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Leave SW forever.

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#113 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="da_chub"]

not to mention that nintendo did more for the video game world with SS then Batman did with AC.Sagem28

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Leave SW forever.

While I chose Arkham City over Skyward Sword, I agree with what Da_chub said

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#114 N30F3N1X
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While I chose Arkham City over Skyward Sword, I agree with what Da_chub said

Pikminmaniac

What did SS do for the videogame world? lol

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#115 deactivated-5c072abf2e969
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

While I chose Arkham City over Skyward Sword, I agree with what Da_chub said

N30F3N1X

What did SS do for the videogame world? lol

It showed developers that forcing motion controls onto the gamers is not advisable. So it has saved many other games from the plague of motion controls.

Did Arkham City do that? Nope. XD

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#116 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

While I chose Arkham City over Skyward Sword, I agree with what Da_chub said

N30F3N1X

What did SS do for the videogame world? lol

It proved that Motion Controls are completely viable and can improve/deepen a core gaming experience intuitively.

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#117 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

While I chose Arkham City over Skyward Sword, I agree with what Da_chub said

Pikminmaniac

What did SS do for the videogame world? lol

It proved that Motion Controls are completely viable and can improve/deepen a core gaming experience intuitively.

That's why everybody likes them and uses them now, right???

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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

What did SS do for the videogame world? lol

GreenGoblin2099

It proved that Motion Controls are completely viable and can improve/deepen a core gaming experience intuitively.

That's why everybody likes them and uses them now, right???

thats actually thanks to microsoft pumping crap for kinect at every chance they get.

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#119 deactivated-5c072abf2e969
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

While I chose Arkham City over Skyward Sword, I agree with what Da_chub said

Pikminmaniac

What did SS do for the videogame world? lol

It proved that Motion Controls are completely viable and can improve/deepen a core gaming experience intuitively.

No.....just NO...

The controls are the main reason I can't even bring myself to finish the game. The blurry **** pixelated graphics in SKyloft don't help either.

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#120 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Why are you doing this..? :|

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#121 ShadowMoses900
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They arn't really the same kind of game, and while I love both, I would have to give the nod to Arkham City. It is the better game IMO, by a good margin too.

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#122 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

What did SS do for the videogame world? lol

Glutenbob

It proved that Motion Controls are completely viable and can improve/deepen a core gaming experience intuitively.

No.....just NO...

The controls are the main reason I can't even bring myself to finish the game. The blurry **** pixelated graphics in SKyloft don't help either.

The controls were easily the strongest thing going for the game. If it wasn't for them, this game would have been really disappointing IMHO

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#123 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="Glutenbob"]

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

It proved that Motion Controls are completely viable and can improve/deepen a core gaming experience intuitively.

Pikminmaniac

No.....just NO...

The controls are the main reason I can't even bring myself to finish the game. The blurry **** pixelated graphics in SKyloft don't help either.

The controls were easily the strongest thing going for the game. If it wasn't for them, this game would have been really disappointing IMHO

He does have a point though, SS graphics do not look good on my HD tv it's too blurry sometimes. But nothing game breaking, but I wish Nintendo would get with the freakin' times!

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#124 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="Glutenbob"]

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

It proved that Motion Controls are completely viable and can improve/deepen a core gaming experience intuitively.

Pikminmaniac

No.....just NO...

The controls are the main reason I can't even bring myself to finish the game. The blurry **** pixelated graphics in SKyloft don't help either.

The controls were easily the strongest thing going for the game. If it wasn't for them, this game would have been really disappointing IMHO

This right here folks, is the winning post... and it concedes Batman AC the victory.

And still, SS didn't do sh!t for gaming, because like I said beofre, it's not like everybody uses them now or sees them in a different way.

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#125 deactivated-5c072abf2e969
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[QUOTE="Glutenbob"]

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

It proved that Motion Controls are completely viable and can improve/deepen a core gaming experience intuitively.

Pikminmaniac

No.....just NO...

The controls are the main reason I can't even bring myself to finish the game. The blurry **** pixelated graphics in SKyloft don't help either.

The controls were easily the strongest thing going for the game. If it wasn't for them, this game would have been really disappointing IMHO

Thats the thing, for those of use who would prefer pad controls (and there are a lot of us that do), Skyward Sword was horrendously disappointing. Which is why Batman AC takes the cake here, because at a gameplay and design level, it is far superior to SS.

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#126 rjdofu
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LOL the sheeps are at it again, Nintendo is god, SS save motion control gaming. :lol:

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#127 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="Glutenbob"]

No.....just NO...

The controls are the main reason I can't even bring myself to finish the game. The blurry **** pixelated graphics in SKyloft don't help either.

ShadowMoses900

The controls were easily the strongest thing going for the game. If it wasn't for them, this game would have been really disappointing IMHO

He does have a point though, SS graphics do not look good on my HD tv it's too blurry sometimes. But nothing game breaking, but I wish Nintendo would get with the freakin' times!

Well the way things "blurred" in the distance was intentional. It was intended to make the scenery appear as thought it was an impressionist French painting. I think it worked pretty well.

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#128 Kaze_no_Mirai
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Why do people bump old threads? :x
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#129 Pikminmaniac
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LOL the sheeps are at it again, Nintendo is god, SS save motion control gaming. :lol:

rjdofu

I'm no sheep. I gave the win to Arkham City, but Skyward Sword is a game I love and it needs defending right now.

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#130 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

LOL the sheeps are at it again, Nintendo is god, SS save motion control gaming. :lol:

Pikminmaniac

I'm no sheep. I gave the win to Arkham City, but Skyward Sword is a game I love and it needs defending right now.

Mediocre games don't need defending tbh... and that last pic you posted looks like ass, there's no excuse to make a game look that bad, specially after a good looking game like Wind Waker.

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#131 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

LOL the sheeps are at it again, Nintendo is god, SS save motion control gaming. :lol:

Pikminmaniac

I'm no sheep. I gave the win to Arkham City, but Skyward Sword is a game I love and it needs defending right now.

Ok.
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#132 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

LOL the sheeps are at it again, Nintendo is god, SS save motion control gaming. :lol:

GreenGoblin2099

I'm no sheep. I gave the win to Arkham City, but Skyward Sword is a game I love and it needs defending right now.

Mediocre games don't need defending tbh... and that last pic you posted looks like ass, there's no excuse to make a game look that bad, specially after a good looking game like Wind Waker.

Skyward Sword is an exceptional game if you are open to the control method and the art styIe that Skyward Sword took is an art StyIe. Some people might not like it, but I find it absolutely gorgeous. It's one of those rare games where I often find my self stopping and admiring the scenery.

In the end I'd have to say that Skyward Sword and Arkham City are THE two best action adventures of this generation and each have their merits. I just feel Arkham City has greater variety and content with just as much polish distributed amongst all it's quality components.

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If McShea hadn't listened to GameSpot and decided to unleash a massive publicity stunt for pageviews by flopping Skyward Sword, nobody would dare claim it's a bad game.
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#134 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

LOL the sheeps are at it again, Nintendo is god, SS save motion control gaming. :lol:

GreenGoblin2099

I'm no sheep. I gave the win to Arkham City, but Skyward Sword is a game I love and it needs defending right now.

Mediocre games don't need defending tbh...

except that Skyward sword is far from mediocre :|

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#135 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

I'm no sheep. I gave the win to Arkham City, but Skyward Sword is a game I love and it needs defending right now.

Shinobishyguy

Mediocre games don't need defending tbh...

except that Skyward sword is far from mediocre :|

Please, man.. there was nothing exceptional about SS. The fact that Pikminmaniac said that it would've been disappointing if it wasn't for the controllers should tell you a lot, because unlike you guys, a whole lot of gamers aren't really into the motion controller gimmick. Take that away and what remains??

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#136 DJ-Lafleur
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If McShea hadn't listened to GameSpot and decided to unleash a massive publicity stunt for pageviews by flopping Skyward Sword, nobody would dare claim it's a bad game.princeofshapeir

LOL no.

people would instead say "GAMESPOT ONLY RATED IT HIGH BECAUSE NOLSTAGIA AND BECAUSE THEY ARE NINTENDO FANBOIS" or something like that, had McShae rated SS higher.

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#137 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Mediocre games don't need defending tbh...

GreenGoblin2099

except that Skyward sword is far from mediocre :|

Please, man.. there was nothing exceptional about SS. The fact that Pikminmaniac said that it would've been disappointing if it wasn't for the controllers should tell you a lot, because unlike you guys, a whole lot of gamers aren't really into the motion controller gimmick. Take that away and what remains??

a 3d zelda with some of the best dungeons and bosses in the series?
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#138 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Mediocre games don't need defending tbh...

GreenGoblin2099

except that Skyward sword is far from mediocre :|

Please, man.. there was nothing exceptional about SS. The fact that Pikminmaniac said that it would've been disappointing if it wasn't for the controllers should tell you a lot, because unlike you guys, a whole lot of gamers aren't really into the motion controller gimmick. Take that away and what remains??

It's not a "gimmick." A gimmick is something that's tacked on and provides no real function other than luring you into buying the game. Skyward Sword's motion controls are actually fundamental to the gameplay because the game is designed around Wii Motion Plus. If you reverted back to a traditional gamepad the entire game would have to be extensively redesigned.
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#139 deactivated-5c072abf2e969
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Mediocre games don't need defending tbh...

GreenGoblin2099

except that Skyward sword is far from mediocre :|

Please, man.. there was nothing exceptional about SS. The fact that Pikminmaniac said that it would've been disappointing if it wasn't for the controllers should tell you a lot, because unlike you guys, a whole lot of gamers aren't really into the motion controller gimmick. Take that away and what remains??

What remains is a mediocre game with archaic game design and even worse HCI design.
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#140 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Mediocre games don't need defending tbh...

GreenGoblin2099

except that Skyward sword is far from mediocre :|

Please, man.. there was nothing exceptional about SS. The fact that Pikminmaniac said that it would've been disappointing if it wasn't for the controllers should tell you a lot, because unlike you guys, a whole lot of gamers aren't really into the motion controller gimmick. Take that away and what remains??

Some amazing dungeons (some of the best yet in the franchise IMO), and one of the best Zelda soundtracks, and some of the best boss fights in the series as well?

the game also has some of the best, most challenging combat in a Zelda game , but that's associated with the motion controls, so, I guess that doesn't count.

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#141 deactivated-5c072abf2e969
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I don't see how anyone can defend the motion controls in SS.

It was such a gimmick. I mean you swing left and the enemies immediately block left, swing right, they immediately block right. Its like a 1 frame animation.

If reality is what they were going for, then give us the ability to stab the enemies toes. The fact that the game really only relies on 4 directions to attack (diagnoal attacks are blocked by a right or above block from the enemy), makes it extremely boring.

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#142 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]except that Skyward sword is far from mediocre :|

Glutenbob

Please, man.. there was nothing exceptional about SS. The fact that Pikminmaniac said that it would've been disappointing if it wasn't for the controllers should tell you a lot, because unlike you guys, a whole lot of gamers aren't really into the motion controller gimmick. Take that away and what remains??

What remains is a mediocre game with archaic game design and even worse HCI design.

gotta love it when people throw around baseless adjectives when it comes to bashing games while people praising it actually back up their points.

Archaic design my ass, most developer dream that they can match the level designs that nintendo can put out

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#143 DJ-Lafleur
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I don't see how anyone can defend the motion controls in SS.

It was such a gimmick. I mean you swing left and the enemies immediately block left, swing right, they immediately block right. Its like a 1 frame animation.

If reality is what they were going for, then give us the ability to stab the enemies toes. The fact that the game really only relies on 4 directions to attack (diagnoal attacks are blocked by a right or above block from the enemy), makes it extremely boring.

Glutenbob

Zelda: Skyward Sword

Can't stab toes...

0/10 wouldn't play again.

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#144 princeofshapeir
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I don't see how anyone can defend the motion controls in SS.

It was such a gimmick. I mean you swing left and the enemies immediately block left, swing right, they immediately block right. Its like a 1 frame animation.

If reality is what they were going for, then give us the ability to stab the enemies toes. The fact that the game really only relies on 4 directions to attack (diagnoal attacks are blocked by a right or above block from the enemy), makes it extremely boring.

Glutenbob
Meanwhile, games like Skyrim and Mass Effect get free passes for their abominable "combat"...
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#145 VendettaRed07
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Im really surprised by all the SS answers. I thought everyone was going to just say "oh lol zelda is dead AA all the way..." Is it really that good?... I played it for a little while and it didn't hold my interest, but I didn't play enough to judge it or anything.

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#146 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="Glutenbob"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Please, man.. there was nothing exceptional about SS. The fact that Pikminmaniac said that it would've been disappointing if it wasn't for the controllers should tell you a lot, because unlike you guys, a whole lot of gamers aren't really into the motion controller gimmick. Take that away and what remains??

Shinobishyguy

What remains is a mediocre game with archaic game design and even worse HCI design.

gotta love it when people throw around baseless adjectives when it comes to bashing games while people praising it actually back up their points

Hey, I don't know if I'm included in this or not, but being fair, for my initial post ITT, I gave the story point to SS, there's no question about it... but the rest is quite debatable as you can see. Where someone sees brilliance, others see crap and the fact that "some of the best bosses" still revolve around the motion controls gimmick, is a point that not everybody will agree.

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#148 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Glutenbob"] What remains is a mediocre game with archaic game design and even worse HCI design. GreenGoblin2099

gotta love it when people throw around baseless adjectives when it comes to bashing games while people praising it actually back up their points

Hey, I don't know if I'm included in this or not, but being fair, for my initial post ITT, I gave the story point to SS, there's no question about it... but the rest is quite debatable as you can see. Where someone sees brilliance, others see crap and the fact that "some of the best bosses" still revolve around the motion controls gimmick, is a point that not everybody will agree.

but thats the thing, is it really a gimmick if the entire gameplay design revolves around it? I mean if it were tacked on like Twilight princess sure, but this is probably the first and only action game I've seen that actually make great use of motion controls. I mean you're free to dislike them because everyone has their preferences but still.
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#149 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Glutenbob"] What remains is a mediocre game with archaic game design and even worse HCI design. GreenGoblin2099

gotta love it when people throw around baseless adjectives when it comes to bashing games while people praising it actually back up their points

Hey, I don't know if I'm included in this or not, but being fair, for my initial post ITT, I gave the story point to SS, there's no question about it... but the rest is quite debatable as you can see. Where someone sees brilliance, others see crap and the fact that "some of the best bosses" still revolve around the motion controls gimmick, is a point that not everybody will agree.

It's not a gimmick. Do you even know what a gimmick is? Kinect is a gimmick; PS Move is a gimmick; waggling the Wii Remote to make Mario jump in the SMG games is a gimmick. Motion controls in Skyward Sword are not a gimmick because they're fundamental to gameplay. You said it yourself: take away the motion control aspect and you have a game that's significantly less appealing and interesting.
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#150 AmayaPapaya
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Skyward Sword was my GOTY last year. Fantastic game. Underrated by the likes of System Wars.