So 360 is crumbling before our eyes

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Tauu"]

The Halo craze has subsided and FPS games are beginning to drop in popularity. Microsoft must be in panic mode right about now, and Gran Turismo 5 isn't even out yet. They need a miracle at E3 or they're screwed.

Tauu

Because Gran Turismo 5 is coming.

The Halo craze has subsided and FPS games are beginning to drop in popularity. Microsoft must be in panic mode right about now, and Gran Turismo 5 isn't even out yet. They need a miracle at E3 or they're screwed.

Tauu

lol we'll see how much the halo craze has died down when reach comes out. it'll obliterate anything on the ps3 take it to the bank.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Tauu"]

The Halo craze has subsided and FPS games are beginning to drop in popularity. Microsoft must be in panic mode right about now, and Gran Turismo 5 isn't even out yet. They need a miracle at E3 or they're screwed.

Tauu

Because Gran Turismo 5 is coming.

I don't see what one game would do.

The game will undoubtedly sell a lot, but I don't see what you're implying. I also wonder if it'll score the same, or better than Forza 3.

I love reading topics from uninformed cows...lol. My favorite part was the "price drop after price drop". The price of a core 360 in 2005; $299. The price now; $199. Thats $100. The price of the PS3 in 2006; $599. The price now; $299. Thats the difference of $300. Now who has had the biggest price drop? I will save you the trouble, the 360 has went down $100 in 5 years while the PS3 has went down $300 in 4 years. And the 360 has all the games I want this year.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Tauu"]

The Halo craze has subsided and FPS games are beginning to drop in popularity. Microsoft must be in panic mode right about now, and Gran Turismo 5 isn't even out yet. They need a miracle at E3 or they're screwed.

Tauu

Because Gran Turismo 5 is coming.

Its been coming for 5 years ...

all those millions go back to their extended warranty which is costing them billionsDangerHiVoltage

Sony games division just posted a $890 million loss just this last fiscal year

Microsoft games division posted a $165 million PROFIT

The PS3 has lost far more this gen then the 360 has.

[QUOTE="DangerHiVoltage"]all those millions go back to their extended warranty which is costing them billionsSilentlyMad

Sony games division just posted a $890 million loss just this last fiscal year

Microsoft games division posted a $165 million PROFIT

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Tauu"]

The Halo craze has subsided and FPS games are beginning to drop in popularity. Microsoft must be in panic mode right about now, and Gran Turismo 5 isn't even out yet. They need a miracle at E3 or they're screwed.

Tauu

Because Gran Turismo 5 is coming.

this is so a **** thread :? no sense at all but it is fun to see lems getting the flamebait lolGiancar

It wouldnt be SW without these types of threads :P

Alan Wake is a AAE (at least according to GS) and isn't available on PC. Very worthwhile game. There goes your whole argument.

[QUOTE="Giancar"]this is so a **** thread :? no sense at all but it is fun to see lems getting the flamebait lolSnugenz

It wouldnt be SW without these types of threads :P

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

as i've said before, to microsoft, xbox360/pc games are exclusive to them, since sony and nintendo arent getting any money! and thats all they care about right now

gamer-adam1

MS don't get any money from PC games either, unless they publish the game and/or own the company who is developing the game.

games for windows, is microsoft, so if it says that on the cover than its in microsofts good book

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_for_windows

[QUOTE="fightninja162"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Sony may not be selling the PS3 for a loss any more but they've got a long way to go before they can say they've made a profit off of the PS3 after the billions (yes, billions, with a "b") they've lost so far.Snugenz

well microsoft has lost billions as well in lawsuits and as a result of the biggest disaster in history rrod.

There's been no lawsuits won against MS over RROD, thats why they owned up to it with the 3 year warranty.

As far as i'm aware anyway.

Sony would never do that infact look at the PS2 problems and they never did anything by choice.

Sony settles ****action law suit

Ruling on infamous "disc read error" issue could give qualifying PS2 owners $25, a free game, free repairs, or a replacement system.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"]this is so a **** thread :? no sense at all but it is fun to see lems getting the flamebait lolGiancar

It wouldnt be SW without these types of threads :P

Aye thats what i mean, would be weird coming to SW and not seeing a "x console is dying kk" thread.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="fightninja162"]

it's making profits now

well microsoft has lost billions as well in lawsuits and as a result of the biggest disaster in history rrod.

the Xbox360 has already lasted longer then the first Xbox.

The Halo craze has subsided and FPS games are beginning to drop in popularity. Microsoft must be in panic mode right about now, and Gran Turismo 5 isn't even out yet. They need a miracle at E3 or they're screwed.

Tauu

wow you are out of this world right now with that statement. it doesnt even make any sense. microsoft is winning and they are in "panic mode"? pass me some of that "devils lettuce" 8)

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

There's been no lawsuits won against MS over RROD, thats why they owned up to it with the 3 year warranty.

As far as i'm aware anyway.

SilentlyMad

Sony would never do that infact look at the PS2 problems and they never did anything by choice.

Sony settles ****action law suit

Ruling on infamous "disc read error" issue could give qualifying PS2 owners $25, a free game, free repairs, or a replacement system.

The 360 is doing bad in SW, in the real world its doing perfectly well.

Snugenz

If 360 is doing bad, then the PS3 isn't worth it.

Less AAAs and AAs is a good thing?

:P

So called exclusives are never really exclusives, they spent 125 million dollars just to get gta 4. and all sorts of ridiculous numbers to get other ps3 exclusives, they rushed out bad hardware, price drop after price drop, no real good games (none exclusives whatsoever) on the horizion. and a recent number of 35.7 million ps3s sold with no update from 360 in over a year.

despite a one year head start they are pathetically falling apart, with nothing going for them other than shocking people by getting ps3 quality onto their console, getting a new crap metal gear series and other games that were supposed to be exclusives.

give us something original that we cant play on pc either. jeez.

DangerHiVoltage

If 360 is doing bad, then the PS3 isn't worth it.

Less AAAs and AAs is a good thing?

:P

mitu123

It still has plenty (PS3), and I argue its getting more quality AAAs these days.

The Halo craze has subsided and FPS games are beginning to drop in popularity. Microsoft must be in panic mode right about now, and Gran Turismo 5 isn't even out yet. They need a miracle at E3 or they're screwed.

Tauu

Judging by how much MW2 sold, I would say the FPS craze is as strong as ever.

The 360 is doing bad in SW, in the real world its doing perfectly well.

Snugenz

microsoft aint profitted off the 360 no matter what they say, theyve been caught lieing tonnes of timesDangerHiVoltage

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="fightninja162"]

it's making profits now

fightninja162

whatever about last gen the only reason microsoft is on par with sony now is the head start and high price of the system now that those two are not a factor the ps3 is winning the sales worldwide like it should.

Alan Wake just came out. Reach Beta rocks. Gears 3 on the horizon. Fable 3 Crackdown 2 Natal and who knows what from Rare this year. Incredible multiplats like Red Dead Redemption coming out rapidfire. Also in the real world games like Mass Effect 1/2 are *huge* for 360, most PS3 people I know are massively jealous of them, because shockingly the PS3 didn't actually come bundled with a gaming PC :P 360 is doing as well as ever, just because PS3 finally started doing better than it's **** times of 06 - 08 doesn't change that :Dlocopatho

don't you mean 06 -07 because PS3 won 08 with 1 AAAAE and 2 AAAE while X360 only had Gears in AAAE

So called exclusives are never really exclusives, they spent 125 million dollars just to get gta 4. and all sorts of ridiculous numbers to get other ps3 exclusives, they rushed out bad hardware, price drop after price drop, no real good games (none exclusives whatsoever) on the horizion. and a recent number of 35.7 million ps3s sold with no update from 360 in over a year.

despite a one year head start they are pathetically falling apart, with nothing going for them other than shocking people by getting ps3 quality onto their console, getting a new crap metal gear series and other games that were supposed to be exclusives.

give us something original that we cant play on pc either. jeez.

DangerHiVoltage

[QUOTE="fightninja162"]

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"] From Microsoft's point of view, they have already won. The PS2 was the hands down winner of last gen, and the original Xbox was nowhere near that monster seller. The fact that the 360 is anywhere close to the sales of the PS3 is amazing, and could not have been predicted at the end of last gen. Sony got arrogant, and dropped the ball big time. Even if, and at this point I guess you could say when the PS3 outsells the 360, it won't matter because Microsoft took away a huge chunk of Sony's share of the gaming market this gen.GrilledCharlie

whatever about last gen the only reason microsoft is on par with sony now is the head start and high price of the system now that those two are not a factor the ps3 is winning the sales worldwide like it should.

not really microsoft is not at 150 million it's only at 40 million and most those already have a ps3 alsoor are about to get one.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Alan Wake just came out. Reach Beta rocks. Gears 3 on the horizon. Fable 3 Crackdown 2 Natal and who knows what from Rare this year. Incredible multiplats like Red Dead Redemption coming out rapidfire. Also in the real world games like Mass Effect 1/2 are *huge* for 360, most PS3 people I know are massively jealous of them, because shockingly the PS3 didn't actually come bundled with a gaming PC :P 360 is doing as well as ever, just because PS3 finally started doing better than it's **** times of 06 - 08 doesn't change that :Dfightninja162

don't you mean 06 -07 because PS3 won 08 with 1 AAAAE and 2 AAAE while X360 only had Gears in AAAE

So called exclusives are never really exclusives, they spent 125 million dollars just to get gta 4. and all sorts of ridiculous numbers to get other ps3 exclusives, they rushed out bad hardware, price drop after price drop, no real good games(none exclusives whatsoever) on the horizion. and a recent number of 35.7 million ps3s sold with no update from 360 in over a year.

despite a one year head start they are pathetically falling apart, with nothing going for them other than shocking people by getting ps3 quality onto their console, getting a new crap metal gear series and other games that were supposed to be exclusives.

give us something original that we cant play on pc either. jeez.

DangerHiVoltage

Well, then explain why 99% of my gaming goes to 360, and PS3 is just for a few break, i have only played a handfull of games on it in YEARS !!! on PS3, GOW3, FF13and Demon Soul were the only good ones, and guess what, FF13 is a 360 game too and GOW3 was a rent ( i MAY buy it with a huge price drop though)

BTW, Alan Wake, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Kameo, Mass Effect 1-2, Viva Pinata 2, Lost Odyssey etc are far better than any PS3 game to date for me, with only one exception, Demon Soul, just one important game

Also i am looking forward to Fable 3 more than any PS3 title, which in comparisson look more of the same (FF13vs is more crappy Square stuff, Last Gaurdian looks exactly like ICo but with a big bird etc)

I hope they have a Demon Soul 2 in works, otherwise my PS3 willo be almost useless in years to come, like it was before i got Demon Soul

[QUOTE="DangerHiVoltage"]

So called exclusives are never really exclusives, they spent 125 million dollars just to get gta 4. and all sorts of ridiculous numbers to get other ps3 exclusives, they rushed out bad hardware, price drop after price drop, no real good games (none exclusives whatsoever) on the horizion. and a recent number of 35.7 million ps3s sold with no update from 360 in over a year.

despite a one year head start they are pathetically falling apart, with nothing going for them other than shocking people by getting ps3 quality onto their console, getting a new crap metal gear series and other games that were supposed to be exclusives.

give us something original that we cant play on pc either. jeez.

delta3074

take out crackdown 2 and fable 3 those are not interesting or are they AAAE franchises.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DangerHiVoltage"]

So called exclusives are never really exclusives, they spent 125 million dollars just to get gta 4. and all sorts of ridiculous numbers to get other ps3 exclusives, they rushed out bad hardware, price drop after price drop, no real good games (none exclusives whatsoever) on the horizion. and a recent number of 35.7 million ps3s sold with no update from 360 in over a year.

despite a one year head start they are pathetically falling apart, with nothing going for them other than shocking people by getting ps3 quality onto their console, getting a new crap metal gear series and other games that were supposed to be exclusives.

give us something original that we cant play on pc either. jeez.

fightninja162

take out crackdown 2 and fable 3 those are not interesting or are they AAAE franchises.

Crackdown 2 and Fable 3 are very interesting to me this year, more than Gears 3 is.

[QUOTE="fightninja162"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Alan Wake just came out. Reach Beta rocks. Gears 3 on the horizon. Fable 3 Crackdown 2 Natal and who knows what from Rare this year. Incredible multiplats like Red Dead Redemption coming out rapidfire. Also in the real world games like Mass Effect 1/2 are *huge* for 360, most PS3 people I know are massively jealous of them, because shockingly the PS3 didn't actually come bundled with a gaming PC :P 360 is doing as well as ever, just because PS3 finally started doing better than it's **** times of 06 - 08 doesn't change that :Dlocopatho

don't you mean 06 -07 because PS3 won 08 with 1 AAAAE and 2 AAAE while X360 only had Gears in AAAE

PS3 has more AAAAE, AAAE and AE than microsoft

It really doesn't matter if Sony sells more PS3's in the long run than the 360, because Sony has yet to make a profit off of the PS3.

Sky-

[QUOTE="delta3074"]what do you mean no good exclusives on the horison, Reach? fable 3? gears 3? crackdown 2?, your post if full of fail mate.fightninja162

take out crackdown 2 and fable 3 those are not interesting or are they AAAE franchises.

I don't see what AAAE has to do with anything, as it hasn't been stated that we can only count that score. Also, they are not interesting to you, but they could be interesting to other gamers.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DangerHiVoltage"]

So called exclusives are never really exclusives, they spent 125 million dollars just to get gta 4. and all sorts of ridiculous numbers to get other ps3 exclusives, they rushed out bad hardware, price drop after price drop, no real good games (none exclusives whatsoever) on the horizion. and a recent number of 35.7 million ps3s sold with no update from 360 in over a year.

despite a one year head start they are pathetically falling apart, with nothing going for them other than shocking people by getting ps3 quality onto their console, getting a new crap metal gear series and other games that were supposed to be exclusives.

give us something original that we cant play on pc either. jeez.

fightninja162

take out crackdown 2 and fable 3 those are not interesting or are they AAAE franchises.

[QUOTE="JuarN18"]

And microsoft is counting his millions from live, they look so worried :roll:

Randoggy

nah, microsoft is a pretty cool guy. eh kills development studios and doesn't afraid of anything.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="fightninja162"]most those games are rehashes and multiplats which are uninteresting

don't you mean 06 -07 because PS3 won 08 with 1 AAAAE and 2 AAAE while X360 only had Gears in AAAE

fightninja162

PS3 has more AAAAE, AAAE and AE than microsoft

[QUOTE="fightninja162"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Haha yes sequels are uninteresting, then mention MGS4. Multiplats are uniteresting? Wow you fail at failing... 360 still has more AAA and AA games than PS3, whine some more about it ;)locopatho

PS3 has more AAAAE, AAAE and AE than microsoft

true. overall game library is the single most important thing, by far far far

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DangerHiVoltage"]

So called exclusives are never really exclusives, they spent 125 million dollars just to get gta 4. and all sorts of ridiculous numbers to get other ps3 exclusives, they rushed out bad hardware, price drop after price drop, no real good games (none exclusives whatsoever) on the horizion. and a recent number of 35.7 million ps3s sold with no update from 360 in over a year.

despite a one year head start they are pathetically falling apart, with nothing going for them other than shocking people by getting ps3 quality onto their console, getting a new crap metal gear series and other games that were supposed to be exclusives.

give us something original that we cant play on pc either. jeez.

fightninja162

take out crackdown 2 and fable 3 those are not interesting or are they AAAE franchises.

Do I need to explain how you failed there? Or can you see it?

If 360 was crumbling how come

1. I play 99% of the time on 360

2. I only own 3 PS3 games (FF13, Demon Soul, NG Sigma)

3. I buy most 360 exclusives but only rent most PS3 exclusives

4. I like the controller far more on 360

5. I only play online on 360

6. I like Alan Wake, Mass Effect 1-2, Fable 2, Lost Odyssey, Banjo 3, Kameo, Viva Pinata, Gears 1-2 more than any PS3 game so far (excluding Demon Soul only)

7. My most anticipated title is Fable 3, over FF13vs (which will be crap most probably like FF13) or Last Gaurdian (which is like ICO which was extremely slow and boring)

8. Gears is the only shooter series i like, due to art and setting/enemies style( i hate the shooting though)

9. Natal is by far and away the most advanced and hands free way to control games

etc etc etc

360 is crumbling? Sorry, i dont see it

I wont even go to Wii, with the atrocious visuals and clumpsy controls, and the 3 worthy (for me at least) games (Zelda TP, Muramasha, Little king Story), one of which is on GC too !!!

OH dear like or not 360 is doing just fine and it's here to stay and why are most of the multiplats better on 360 and in the real world there actually some gamers who don't care if game score AAAAE and all they want to do play good games

I'm looking at it right now, it's just sitting there. No crumbling at all. I wonder if you've been eating too many "special" cookies.

If 360 was crumbling how come

1. I play 99% of the time on 360

2. I only own 3 PS3 games (FF13, Demon Soul, NG Sigma)

3. I buy most 360 exclusives but only rent most PS3 exclusives

4. I like the controller far more on 360

5. I only play online on 360

6. I like Alan Wake, Mass Effect 1-2, Fable 2, Lost Odyssey, Banjo 3, Kameo, Viva Pinata, Gears 1-2 more than any PS3 game so far (excluding Demon Soul only)

7. My most anticipated title is Fable 3, over FF13vs (which will be crap most probably like FF13) or Last Gaurdian (which is like ICO which was extremely slow and boring)

8. Gears is the only shooter series i like, due to art and setting/enemies style( i hate the shooting though)

9. Natal is by far and away the most advanced and hands free way to control games

etc etc etc

360 is crumbling? Sorry, i dont see it

I wont even go to Wii, with the atrocious visuals and clumpsy controls, and the 3 worthy (for me at least) games (Zelda TP, Muramasha, Little king Story), one of which is on GC too !!!

theseekar

i think point 2 is your biggest issue that leads to all those other symptoms. :P

I'm looking at it right now, it's just sitting there. No crumbling at all. I wonder if you've been eating too many "special" cookies.

gamecubepad

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

If 360 was crumbling how come

1. I play 99% of the time on 360

2. I only own 3 PS3 games (FF13, Demon Soul, NG Sigma)

3. I buy most 360 exclusives but only rent most PS3 exclusives

4. I like the controller far more on 360

5. I only play online on 360

6. I like Alan Wake, Mass Effect 1-2, Fable 2, Lost Odyssey, Banjo 3, Kameo, Viva Pinata, Gears 1-2 more than any PS3 game so far (excluding Demon Soul only)

7. My most anticipated title is Fable 3, over FF13vs (which will be crap most probably like FF13) or Last Gaurdian (which is like ICO which was extremely slow and boring)

8. Gears is the only shooter series i like, due to art and setting/enemies style( i hate the shooting though)

9. Natal is by far and away the most advanced and hands free way to control games

etc etc etc

360 is crumbling? Sorry, i dont see it

I wont even go to Wii, with the atrocious visuals and clumpsy controls, and the 3 worthy (for me at least) games (Zelda TP, Muramasha, Little king Story), one of which is on GC too !!!

PSdual_wielder

i think point 2 is your biggest issue that leads to all those other symptoms. :P