So 360 is crumbling before our eyes

Maybe if you look past the strong list of upcoming exclusives and the backlog of games the system has, then yes it's crumbling. Luckily most of can see those benefits.

Maybe if you look past the strong list of upcoming exclusives and the backlog of games the system has, then yes it's crumbling. Luckily most of can see those benefits.

hypoty

Actually 360 and PS3 have about the same amount of REAL exslusives. I love how fanboys try to make the fact 360 also gets lots of 360/PC multiplats sound like a bad thing!!!

Ummm, actually to most people (outside SW), when you compare Xbox 360 and PS3 directly (don't consider PC a console, it's a system; so this is for console buyers mostly), you won't go into a store and say "I want Mass Effect 2 for PS3" because to everyone else, If it's on 360 and not on PS3, it's an advantage for 360. And to MS, they get money from both sales while Nintendo and Sony don't get any93soccer

Sure is, what with pumping out stellar games and outselling the PS3 worldwide.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

Maybe if you look past the strong list of upcoming exclusives and the backlog of games the system has, then yes it's crumbling. Luckily most of can see those benefits.

Santesyu

Gears 3, Alan Wake, Halo Reach and Crackdown 2 come to mind. I'm sure there's more but I haven't been keeping up with 360 exclusives, either.

[QUOTE="GrilledCharlie"][QUOTE="fightninja162"]

whatever about last gen the only reason microsoft is on par with sony now is the head start and high price of the system now that those two are not a factor the ps3 is winning the sales worldwide like it should.

fightninja162

not really microsoft is not at 150 million it's only at 40 million and most those already have a ps3 alsoor are about to get one.

Yeahhhh, I remember when 360 was supposed to be dead in 2006. Then 2007. Then 2008. Then 2009.

Some people never learn :lol::lol::lol:

Yikes, if 360 is crumbling and it's in second place then what is happening to the Last Place system hmm umm I'll guess, Self Destructing ? Disintegrating ? Or something worse?

[QUOTE="DangerHiVoltage"]

So called exclusives are never really exclusives, they spent 125 million dollars just to get gta 4. and all sorts of ridiculous numbers to get other ps3 exclusives, they rushed out bad hardware, price drop after price drop, no real good games (none exclusives whatsoever) on the horizion. and a recent number of 35.7 million ps3s sold with no update from 360 in over a year.

despite a one year head start they are pathetically falling apart, with nothing going for them other than shocking people by getting ps3 quality onto their console, getting a new crap metal gear series and other games that were supposed to be exclusives.

give us something original that we cant play on pc either. jeez.

monson21502

Sure is, what with pumping out stellar games and outselling the PS3 worldwide.

SpinoRaptor24

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

Sure is, what with pumping out stellar games and outselling the PS3 worldwide.

Mestitia

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

MS don't get any money from PC games either, unless they publish the game and/or own the company who is developing the game.

games for windows, is microsoft, so if it says that on the cover than its in microsofts good book

They don't earn revenue from Games for Windows Live. It's a free service offered to developers.

They'll earn money on their DD service, where they offer full games, but that's it.

naahh i think 360 only owners are happy with what's being offered this year.. there are some great exclusives / multiplats already released and some great upcoming ones...

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

Sure is, what with pumping out stellar games and outselling the PS3 worldwide.

Mestitia

360 has a superior library and more sales. What's not to understand? :|

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

Sure is, what with pumping out stellar games and outselling the PS3 worldwide.

locopatho

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

Sure is, what with pumping out stellar games and outselling the PS3 worldwide.

Mestitia

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

Sure is, what with pumping out stellar games and outselling the PS3 worldwide.

SpinoRaptor24

360 has a superior library and more sales. What's not to understand? :|

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"] Except the PS3 is releasing more critically acclaimed games and is selling more then the 360 worldwide? Your post made no sense.

Mestitia

360 has a superior library and more sales. What's not to understand? :|

-It's still doing great in sales.
-It's still contributing by releasing stellar games.

Again, I don't see how it's crumbling.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mestitia"] Except the PS3 is released more critically acclaimed games and is selling more then the 360 worldwide? Your post made no sense.

Mestitia

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mestitia"] Except the PS3 is released more critically acclaimed games and is selling more then the 360 worldwide? Your post made no sense.

Mestitia

Pointless? So these titles don't exist anymore :?

It does seem from an outsiders view anyway that the 360 has lost its momentum. Its nothing that shouldnt be expected I mean the console is 5/6ish years old now. The playstation3 will have the same fate just maybe a year or 2 years longer lifetime. Problem that I can see is that consoles usually have their main IPs pushing the console forward. For the xbox its games like gears of war, halo, forza etc those have kinda tripped up imo. Gears of war 2 was horrible when it came to mulitplayer, the match making system was broken and took forever, the lag was unplayable for 90% of the time and it just wasnt imo refined enough. Now they have mentioned gears of war 3 which could hopefully bring some life back. Halo no longer has the master cheif in it... thats like saying here play idk tomb raider but you use some random woman, god of war yet you use the girl from that GoW rip off, forgot the name lol Forza 3 just seems to lack what gran turismo has, the sence of occcasion since GT is some mega heavy weight title.

Sony on the other hand has some large games still in stock like GT5 etc, it has also had a facelift (the slim) it also has move (i know microsoft has natal but still have to see if the package it nicely or will come out like some sort of brick and also the space etc needed).

I do think quite honestly if sony had some how managed to buy the rights to MW or MW2 I think the xbox would be in big trouble right now. Not as in finacialy but keeping it in the publics intrest because it just simply isnt a nice lookin console, its bulky etc and it looks out of date.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mestitia"] Except the PS3 is released more critically acclaimed games and is selling more then the 360 worldwide? Your post made no sense.

Mestitia

This gen started 5+ years ago.....sorry, can't bend the facts into your favor...

[QUOTE="Mestitia"][QUOTE="locopatho"] 360 has more AAA games, AA games, and sales than PS3. locopatho

[QUOTE="Mestitia"][QUOTE="locopatho"] 360 has more AAA games, AA games, and sales than PS3. racing1750

Pointless? So these titles don't exist anymore :?

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"] Only if your looking at pointless 2005 titles nobody brags about or plays anymore. The last 3/4 years the 360 has been getting crushed in all those categories, and the thread is about what's going on now not 5+ years ago.Mestitia

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[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] 2005 titles are pointless :| Only if you are some sort of silliness child... Pretty sure WOW is still being played ;) And btw, RIGHT NOW, 360 has more AAAs, more AAs and more sales than PS3 :D

Modern_Unit

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[QUOTE="racing1750"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"] Only if your looking at pointless 2005 titles nobody brags about or plays anymore. The last 3/4 years the 360 has been getting crushed in all those categories, and the thread is about what's going on now not 5+ years ago.Mestitia

Pointless? So these titles don't exist anymore :?

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"] Only if your looking at pointless 2005 titles nobody brags about or plays anymore. The last 3/4 years the 360 has been getting crushed in all those categories, and the thread is about what's going on now not 5+ years ago.Mestitia

[QUOTE="Mestitia"][QUOTE="racing1750"]

Pointless? So these titles don't exist anymore :?

Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]I'm no child imo the children are the ones that won't admit how outdated and pointless a lot of those games are or simply redundant now that new iteration of those titles are out, like sports games, or sequels to racing games etc. And don't compare PC gaming to console gaming, WoW isn't on the 360, PC gamer's play their games for years, consoles gamer's for the most part only spend a couple of months on a game before moving to the next big thing. And if you check Metacritic the 360 isn't ahead in high scoring games, they are about tied give or take one or two titles, but the PS3 titles are much more recent and varied. I'll take recent over old anyday.

Mestitia

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[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] 2005 titles are pointless :| Only if you are some sort of silliness child... Pretty sure WOW is still being played ;) And btw, RIGHT NOW, 360 has more AAAs, more AAs and more sales than PS3 :D

locopatho

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Mestitia"] Ya let's brag about PGR1 2 and 3 now that 4 is out eh? Yes pointless, alot of them are just that, pointless numbers 360 fans use to brag because of the lack of recent games.Mestitia

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[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

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Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] More like the pointless twisting that cows use to try and claim they have the advantage. Answer the question, do those titles still exist? Oh and FYI....PGR 1 and 2 were on the original Xbox.Ravensmash

[QUOTE="racing1750"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"] Only if your looking at pointless 2005 titles nobody brags about or plays anymore. The last 3/4 years the 360 has been getting crushed in all those categories, and the thread is about what's going on now not 5+ years ago.Mestitia

Pointless? So these titles don't exist anymore :?

[QUOTE="Mestitia"][QUOTE="racing1750"]

Pointless? So these titles don't exist anymore :?

delta3074

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GS scores are used for official flops everything else is fair game, ask a mod if you want. And I didn't take games away from the 360, I'm simply stating they aren't as strong as recent games, and if the difference is 2 or 3 games the vast ,majority of console gamers rather have the recent library.

I like 360 cause it has more games, better multiplats (Red Dead Redemption today! YEAH!) and I like the multiplayer because my friends actually play their 360s. :)

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Mestitia"] Ya let's brag about PGR1 2 and 3 now that 4 is out eh? Yes pointless, alot of them are just that, pointless numbers 360 fans use to brag because of the lack of recent games.Mestitia

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GS scores are used for official flops everything else is fair game, ask a mod if you want. And I didn't take games away from the 360, I'm simply stating they aren't as strong as recent games, and if the difference is 2 or 3 games the vast ,majority of console gamers rather have the recent library.

[QUOTE="Mestitia"][QUOTE="racing1750"]

Pointless? So these titles don't exist anymore :?

delta3074

I think what Mestitia is trying to say is that we're in 2010 so probably a new gamer who is planning to get a 360 would probably be more interested in games released last year / this year.. Surely the good games from 2005/2006 are still available but honestly how many buy those games TODAY? I got my 360 in Summer 2008 and with the exception of Halo3 & Geow i didnt buy games which came out in the previous years cause i was more interested in the ones coming out.. Same applies to PS3, someone getting it new surely wont go looking for Resistance Fall of man, Motorstorm 1, Warhawk or Heavenly Sword... He'll probably go for more recent ones.. I think that is the point..

Sure there are those very very very few titles (classics) which you'll probably still buy years later but when it comes to sports games, racing games etc you know as much as i do that today i wouldnt go and buy PGR3 or Forza 2 but opt for the latest installments in the series.. Still though these games are AVAILABLE and form part of the 360 games library :)

Only if your looking at pointless 2005 titles nobody brags about or plays anymore. The last 3/4 years the 360 has been getting crushed in all those categories, and the thread is about what's going on now not 5+ years ago.Mestitia

Pointless? So these titles don't exist anymore :?

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

If 360 was crumbling how come

1. I play 99% of the time on 360

2. I only own 3 PS3 games (FF13, Demon Soul, NG Sigma)

3. I buy most 360 exclusives but only rent most PS3 exclusives

4. I like the controller far more on 360

5. I only play online on 360

6. I like Alan Wake, Mass Effect 1-2, Fable 2, Lost Odyssey, Banjo 3, Kameo, Viva Pinata, Gears 1-2 more than any PS3 game so far (excluding Demon Soul only)

7. My most anticipated title is Fable 3, over FF13vs (which will be crap most probably like FF13) or Last Gaurdian (which is like ICO which was extremely slow and boring)

8. Gears is the only shooter series i like, due to art and setting/enemies style( i hate the shooting though)

9. Natal is by far and away the most advanced and hands free way to control games

etc etc etc

360 is crumbling? Sorry, i dont see it

I wont even go to Wii, with the atrocious visuals and clumpsy controls, and the 3 worthy (for me at least) games (Zelda TP, Muramasha, Little king Story), one of which is on GC too !!!

PSdual_wielder

i think point 2 is your biggest issue that leads to all those other symptoms. :P

No, because i have rent all other major PS3 titles (GOW3 lately, MGS4, Uncharted 1-2, Killzone 2etc)

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

as i've said before, to microsoft, xbox360/pc games are exclusive to them, since sony and nintendo arent getting any money! and thats all they care about right now

xsubtownerx

all those millions go back to their extended warranty which is costing them billionsDangerHiVoltage