So cows, I was recently playing GEOW2 and I don't see what you are talking about

You say your exclusives look oh so much better, but from what I have seen between KZ2 and GEOW2 it is really art style. Also, GEOW 2 seems to have pretty good lighting, it could be tricks used by the dev but GG used tons of "tricks". I think GEOW 2's environment(texture rez difference probably) for the most part is better. KZ2 is also, for the most part much darker, KZ2 has a "softer picture" to me. The ground looks more detailed in GEOW and the rest of it "pops" more to me.

You say your exclusives look oh so much better, but from what I have seen between KZ2 and GEOW2 it is really art style. Also, GEOW 2 seems to have pretty good lighting, it could be tricks used by the dev but GG used tons of "tricks". I think GEOW 2's environment(texture rez difference probably) for the most part is better. KZ2 is also, for the most part much darker, KZ2 has a "softer picture" to me. The ground looks more detailed in GEOW and the rest of it "pops" more to me.

Camer999

Gears 2 is fun, i love Horde mode.

Their lighing model is solid, but they didn't use it in a really impressive way IMO.

This pretty much sums up my views from the technical perspective

whats "GEOW2"?

Gears 2 needs more blurring methinks. That way it can trick more people into thinking it looks amazing.

whats "GEOW2"?

snare411

Gears of War 2

and I agree, everything inho looks nicer in gears with the exception of the weapons in Killzone, when they fire and just there detail has always seemed the best to me.

I own a ps3 and 360 and to be 100% honest, there are 4 cosnole graphics king atm at least for me (Killzone2, Gears2, MGS4 and Kameo). I find all those games to be on the same level graphically, all very beautiful.

Don't look at this cow, he didn't say anything :P

Personally I don't care about which console has the better graphics. Graphics are just a bonus, it's the gameplay that makes a difference.

KZ2 is technically superior to anthing on console right now plain and simple and don't hide behind the the opinion argument cause you know that a cop out. from animation, to lighting, to physics, and just overall detail KZ2 simply has the best of everything who knows what the future hold but right now KZ2 current console graphics king

I own a ps3 and 360 and to be 100% honest, there are 4 cosnole graphics king atm at least for me (Killzone2, Gears2, MGS4 and Kameo). I find all those games to be on the same level graphically, all very beautiful.

kozzy1234

YES! thank you, you are one of the only people I have met in this forum that have truly appreciated Kameos true beauty and wonderful graphics.

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

You say your exclusives look oh so much better, but from what I have seen between KZ2 and GEOW2 it is really art style. Also, GEOW 2 seems to have pretty good lighting, it could be tricks used by the dev but GG used tons of "tricks". I think GEOW 2's environment(texture rez difference probably) for the most part is better. KZ2 is also, for the most part much darker, KZ2 has a "softer picture" to me. The ground looks more detailed in GEOW and the rest of it "pops" more to me.

Irick_cb

Gears 2 is fun, i love Horde mode.

Their lighing model is solid, but they didn't use it in a really impressive way IMO.

This pretty much sums up my views from the technical perspective

True but they did not mention textures get close up on KZ2, also I will admit the partical effects are nice, but I am talking about the package deal and the draw distance seems larger in Gears of war 2, but at this point between the consoles it seems that they, tie? I don't know if that is possible on system wars but between these games it seems TO subjective? GEOW2, also seems to have more on screen.

KZ2 is the best looking right now, thanks for bringing it up though. It's been at least one day since the last comparison!

KZ2 is technically superior to anthing on console right now plain and simple and don't hide behind the the opinion argument cause you know that a cop out. from animation, to lighting, to physics, and just overall detail KZ2 simply has the best of everything who knows what the future hold but right now KZ2 current console graphics king

Ragashahs

Physics is really debatable did you see the E3 2008 demo of the games physics it would probably blow your mind. More stuff seems to happen on screen and the textures are better.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I own a ps3 and 360 and to be 100% honest, there are 4 cosnole graphics king atm at least for me (Killzone2, Gears2, MGS4 and Kameo). I find all those games to be on the same level graphically, all very beautiful.

dragonfly110

YES! thank you, you are one of the only people I have met in this forum that have truly appreciated Kameos true beauty and wonderful graphics.

KZ2 is technically superior to anthing on console right now plain and simple and don't hide behind the the opinion argument cause you know that a cop out. from animation, to lighting, to physics, and just overall detail KZ2 simply has the best of everything who knows what the future hold but right now KZ2 current console graphics king

Ragashahs

You haven't played Killzone 2 have you? :|

GEOW2 is fun but its no Killzone 2. I prefer GEOW over the 2nd.

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]

KZ2 is technically superior to anthing on console right now plain and simple and don't hide behind the the opinion argument cause you know that a cop out. from animation, to lighting, to physics, and just overall detail KZ2 simply has the best of everything who knows what the future hold but right now KZ2 current console graphics king

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Or even Farcry 2 thats BS or even gears if they where informed.

Killzone 2 looks better, plain and simple

You haven't played Killzone 2 have you? :|

GEOW2 is fun but its no Killzone 2. I prefer GEOW over the 2nd.

AdoringFan_

I recently played GEOW2, but even if I compare them (both) from just online videos it is rediculously subjective.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I own a ps3 and 360 and to be 100% honest, there are 4 cosnole graphics king atm at least for me (Killzone2, Gears2, MGS4 and Kameo). I find all those games to be on the same level graphically, all very beautiful.

dragonfly110

YES! thank you, you are one of the only people I have met in this forum that have truly appreciated Kameos true beauty and wonderful graphics.

Glad to see someone else who appreciates Kameos graphics, simply amazing graphics for a launch title :)

If i had to pick one graphics king for each console it would be PS3 = Killzone2 and 360 = Kameo, i find both those games to just just amazing graphics by consoles standards, both just beautiful to look at.

Killzone 2 looks better, plain and simple

thelastguy

How, I love how people state these things like facts when they can't back it up.

nah i still beleive KZ2 is the king of console graphics..

KZ>>>>Uncharted>Gears2=MGS4=RE5. IMO.

nah i still beleive KZ2 is the king of console graphics..

KZ>>>>Uncharted>Gears2=MGS4=RE5. IMO.

___gamemaster__

Explain?

True but they did not mention textures get close up on KZ2, also I will admit the partical effects are nice, but I am talking about the package deal and the draw distance seems larger in Gears of war 2, but at this point between the consoles it seems that they, tie? I don't know if that is possible on system wars but between these games it seems TO subjective? GEOW2, also seems to have more on screen.

Camer999

I think GeOW 2 has to have more enemys on screen for its feel, It just woulden't be the same. (i mean, 3rd person, there is a larger field of view)

But really, textures on a 3rd person shooter vs a first person shooter... just not a good thing to compare, it's sort of like the weapons models "Yeah the FPS will have better weapon's models but that is because you'll be stareing at them the entire game"

Personaly i really think the volumetric smoke and lighting system is the most impressive aspect of KZ2's graphics engine.

I mean, that looks real to me.

In GeOW 2....

It's black and doesn't really look lit.

In terms of "Crap i'm going to look at a lot while in gameplay" i'd give the edge to KZ2 for these:

Bullet effects.

Grenade effects.

Lighting system.

Gun moddles.

That last point in the vid, the physical interaction with volumetric smoke. It is there, but i wouldn't say it's a big reason i like KZ2's visuals over GeOW2

nah i still beleive KZ2 is the king of console graphics..

KZ>>>>Uncharted>Gears2=MGS4=RE5. IMO.

___gamemaster__

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

nah i still beleive KZ2 is the king of console graphics..

KZ>>>>Uncharted>Gears2=MGS4=RE5. IMO.

Camer999

Explain?

because i've played them all and thats what i think... Just my opinion though..

i think Killzone 2 is a little more impressive, mostly because of animations. jg4xchamp

yeah and the explosions.. man that was good. although a bit short..

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

True but they did not mention textures get close up on KZ2, also I will admit the partical effects are nice, but I am talking about the package deal and the draw distance seems larger in Gears of war 2, but at this point between the consoles it seems that they, tie? I don't know if that is possible on system wars but between these games it seems TO subjective? GEOW2, also seems to have more on screen.

Irick_cb

I think GeOW 2 has to have more enemys on screen for its feel, It just woulden't be the same. (i mean, 3rd person, there is a larger field of view)

But really, textures on a 3rd person shooter vs a first person shooter... just not a good thing to compare, it's sort of like the weapons models "Yeah the FPS will have better weapon's models but that is because you'll be stareing at them the entire game"

Personaly i really think the volumetric smoke and lighting system is the most impressive aspect of KZ2's graphics engine.

I mean, that looks real to me.

In GeOW 2....

It's black and doesn't really look lit.

In terms of "Crap i'm going to look at a lot while in gameplay" i'd give the edge to KZ2 for these:

Bullet effects.

Grenade effects.

Lighting system.

Gun moddles.

That last point in the vid, the physical interaction with volumetric smoke. It is there, but i wouldn't say it's a big reason i like KZ2's visuals over GeOW2

Still, it has more on-screen. Which means more demanding. Ok particle effects for KZ2. Textures this really should go to GEOW2 even if you said they are un-comparable, I think the gun-models are about the same lol. I mean look at the sea monster and even just your environment, it looks very detailed while KZ2 looks more sterile(I am not saying it is sterile by any means I said more) Kz2s smoke is volumetric? Can I have a link? I saw on a vid comparing the Trailers that The 2005 one was volumetric and the newer one was not. Lighting is good on both, I think you are confusing the Particle effects with the lighting system.

did he call us cows?

............ Moo?

did he call us cows?

............ Moo?

Renzokucant

I remember the first time i came into System Wars and saw people calling others Lemmings, Cows and Hermits, i was like What The Hell is going on here? :lol:

Think ive been called everything over the years ... A Cow, A Lemming, A Hermit and a Sheep:lol:

[QUOTE="Renzokucant"]

did he call us cows?

............ Moo?

kozzy1234

I remember the first time i came into System Wars and saw people calling others Lemmings, Cows and Hermits, i was like What The Hell is going on here? :lol:

Think ive been called everything over the years ... A Cow, A Lemming, A Hermit and a Sheep:lol:

SW on steroids lol. Sadly I was once like that :P

did he call us cows?

............ Moo?

Renzokucant

Do you not call us vermin?

um gears of war 2 is terrible dude, graphics wise and gameplay wise, gears 1 looks n plays better in pretty much everyway

[QUOTE="Renzokucant"]

did he call us cows?

............ Moo?

Camer999

Do you not call us vermin?

............. Moo?

um gears of war 2 is terrible dude, graphics wise and gameplay wise, gears 1 looks n plays better in pretty much everyway

dbzultimate3134

Have to agree with you

[QUOTE="dbzultimate3134"]

um gears of war 2 is terrible dude, graphics wise and gameplay wise, gears 1 looks n plays better in pretty much everyway

AdoringFan_

Have to agree with you

nah i still beleive KZ2 is the king of console graphics..

KZ>>>>Uncharted>Gears2=MGS4=RE5. IMO.

___gamemaster__

i think Killzone 2 is a little more impressive, mostly because of animations. jg4xchamp

It may have better animations but more GEOW 2 has more enemies on screen.

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="Renzokucant"]

did he call us cows?

............ Moo?

Renzokucant

Do you not call us vermin?

............. Moo?

The meaning of lemming is something like a rat.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="Renzokucant"]

did he call us cows?

............ Moo?

AdoringFan_

I remember the first time i came into System Wars and saw people calling others Lemmings, Cows and Hermits, i was like What The Hell is going on here? :lol:

Think ive been called everything over the years ... A Cow, A Lemming, A Hermit and a Sheep:lol:

SW on steroids lol. Sadly I was once like that :P

ahhh, good times :P

Is there exactly any point you were trying to make here, because I fail to see it.aryoshi

That cows think that KZ2 is like 50 million leagues ahead of GEOW when it is not.

um gears of war 2 is terrible dude, graphics wise and gameplay wise, gears 1 looks n plays better in pretty much everyway

dbzultimate3134

lol, gameplay wise you might have a case though.

Still, it has more on-screen. Which means more demanding. Ok particle effects for KZ2. Textures this really should go to GEOW2 even if you said they are un-comparable, I think the gun-models are about the same lol. I mean look at the sea monster and even just your environment, it looks very detailed while KZ2 looks more sterile(I am not saying it is sterile by any means I said more) Kz2s smoke is volumetric? Can I have a link? I saw on a vid comparing the Trailers that The 2005 one was volumetric and the newer one was not. Lighting is good on both, I think you are confusing the Particle effects with the lighting system.

Camer999

I don't see your logic on the textures.

FPS games generally have better textures but Textures don't matter as much on the TPS since you are rarely looking at them up close.

I think GeOW 2 was meant to be more organic. I think that is what you mean by not sterile. I certainty would not want either operating on my organs in any case.

The smoke is volumetric O_O did you watch the vid?

PS3 has been doing volumetric fluffy stuff since Warhawk(clouds).

The model rendering is not volumetric(obviously), but the smoke and lighting are.

The trailer for 2005 was pre-rendered. But the smoke stayed volumetric on the release.

Just for reference, i had assumed you had played KZ2, but have you?

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

nah i still beleive KZ2 is the king of console graphics..

KZ>>>>Uncharted>Gears2=MGS4=RE5. IMO.

Steel-Panther

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]i think Killzone 2 is a little more impressive, mostly because of animations. Camer999

It may have better animations but more GEOW 2 has more enemies on screen.

Yea, all graphics crap aside, Gears 2 is a great load of fun online and one of my favorite online games this gen. Can we all just stop the graphics talk and focus on the gameplay part of games?-RocBoys9489-