So cows, I was recently playing GEOW2 and I don't see what you are talking about

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#101 Renzokucant
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OHHHH I GET IT.... COWS ARE PS3 OWNERS RIGHT!??

well since i own a ps3 and a 360 i guess that makes me a cow and a sucker >

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#102 VitunLehmat
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Gears is way to rough, screen tearing, jaggies on everything and very noticeable. I will say the textures are nice but overall it dosent hold a candle to KZ2. Kz2 is solid smooth great textures, Character models, Weapon detail ect. KZ2 also dosent struggle with framerate issues. Its a 60 million dollar game, the perfect console shooter period. PS:KZ2-MP>>>>>>>>>>>>GEOW2MP.djsifer01
Lol talk about making false claims,Geow 2 has no screen tearing and even if the engine technically doesn't support MSAA it does a good job smoothing the edges and gettting rid of the jaggies,KZ2 has no great textures,and gears2 doesn't struggle with framerates and KZ2 is not solid 30fps game and i can prove it unlike you.
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#103 jg4xchamp
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OHHHH I GET IT.... COWS ARE PS3 OWNERS RIGHT!??

well since i own a ps3 and a 360 i guess that makes me a cow and a sucker >

Renzokucant
Sheep= Nintendo fanboy Hermit= PC fanboy Cow= Sony fanboy Lemming= Microsoft fanboy its simple system war lingo started long ago.
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#104 Irick_cb
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Sheep= Nintendo fanboy

Hermit= PC fanboy

Cow= Sony fanboy

Lemming= Microsoft

fanboy its simple system war lingo started long ago. jg4xchamp

I reject it.

Moo.

*edit because i accidently scripted the lead quote and for some reason it lost your new lines.*

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#105 fgyhggfdytrhdgd
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All i know is red faction guerilla PC >>>killzone2/gears 2. sucks pc version isnt being released untill august, where's the damn pc demo? Hopefully they release mod tools for pc version also.
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#106 fgyhggfdytrhdgd
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still though on consoles red faction much better physics than killzone2/gears 2
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#107 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Trying to discuss graphics in deep FTL.
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#108 Chutebox
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Gears is way to rough, screen tearing, jaggies on everything and very noticeable. I will say the textures are nice but overall it dosent hold a candle to KZ2. Kz2 is solid smooth great textures, Character models, Weapon detail ect. KZ2 also dosent struggle with framerate issues. Its a 60 million dollar game, the perfect console shooter period. PS:KZ2-MP>>>>>>>>>>>>GEOW2MP.djsifer01
It didn't cost 60m and it isn't the perfect console shooter.
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#109 Irick_cb
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Trying to discuss graphics in deep FTL.IronBass

I'm sorry, we are new here and still have trust in the logic of our fellow man.

I'm sure a couple of weeks will fix this.

*bows*

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#110 blues35301
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Yeah right. I was just playing kz2 through again today after Gears 2 yesterday and realized how much KZ2 makes Gears look like a complete joke. Seriously the game not only looks better in every facet, but theres just so much more going on its rediculous. Gears has small scale crappy battles where as kz2 is a warzone almost constantly.

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#111 blues35301
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Gears is way to rough, screen tearing, jaggies on everything and very noticeable. I will say the textures are nice but overall it dosent hold a candle to KZ2. Kz2 is solid smooth great textures, Character models, Weapon detail ect. KZ2 also dosent struggle with framerate issues. Its a 60 million dollar game, the perfect console shooter period. PS:KZ2-MP>>>>>>>>>>>>GEOW2MP.VitunLehmat
Lol talk about making false claims,Geow 2 has no screen tearing and even if the engine technically doesn't support MSAA it does a good job smoothing the edges and gettting rid of the jaggies,KZ2 has no great textures,and gears2 doesn't struggle with framerates and KZ2 is not solid 30fps game and i can prove it unlike you.

HAHAH some of the battles near the end of gears go into the low 20's and teens fps wise. I never notice drops in KZ2. This is someone who plays pc games with a frame counter running in the corner. I know what 20 and teen fps look like. BTW kz2 does have some great textures (not all of them but there are some) but only someone who hasn't played the game would claim something like that.
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#112 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]I was recently playing a fun game and I didn't care about the graphics.Irick_cb

I was recently playing Okami.

I loved the graphics.

Did you look at my now playing list or is that just an unusual coincidence?
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#113 Irick_cb
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[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]I was recently playing a fun game and I didn't care about the graphics.OreoMilkshake

I was recently playing Okami.

I loved the graphics.

Did you look at my now playing list or is that just an unusual coincidence?

I remembered you were waiting for your copy.

Because i remember everyone.

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#114 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I was recently playing Okami.

I loved the graphics.

Irick_cb

Did you look at my now playing list or is that just an unusual coincidence?

I remembered you were waiting for your copy.

Because i remember everyone.

Ah I see. Good mind.
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#115 Irick_cb
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[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Did you look at my now playing list or is that just an unusual coincidence?OreoMilkshake

I remembered you were waiting for your copy.

Because i remember everyone.

Ah I see. Good mind.

Neural net, actually *robot eyes*

Not a ton of people play Okami, i loved the game so i remember you.

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#116 VitunLehmat
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[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]Gears is way to rough, screen tearing, jaggies on everything and very noticeable. I will say the textures are nice but overall it dosent hold a candle to KZ2. Kz2 is solid smooth great textures, Character models, Weapon detail ect. KZ2 also dosent struggle with framerate issues. Its a 60 million dollar game, the perfect console shooter period. PS:KZ2-MP>>>>>>>>>>>>GEOW2MP.blues35301
Lol talk about making false claims,Geow 2 has no screen tearing and even if the engine technically doesn't support MSAA it does a good job smoothing the edges and gettting rid of the jaggies,KZ2 has no great textures,and gears2 doesn't struggle with framerates and KZ2 is not solid 30fps game and i can prove it unlike you.

HAHAH some of the battles near the end of gears go into the low 20's and teens fps wise. I never notice drops in KZ2. This is someone who plays pc games with a frame counter running in the corner. I know what 20 and teen fps look like. BTW kz2 does have some great textures (not all of them but there are some) but only someone who hasn't played the game would claim something like that.

Good to know i have KZ2,and Geow 2 doesn't drop frames at all at the end, and unlike you i can prove that KZ2 isn't solid 30 fps it drops frames even with few guys on screen,but you have KZ2 signature :roll: here's your proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ar2Uo1_cc&feature=channel_page it drops down to 24...
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#117 abuabed
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Both games are great looking but for me Killzone 2 is a little bit better in graphics and a lot better in effects (explosions, lightning...etc), try watching the lens of truth comparison in HD

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#118 Irick_cb
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Both games are great looking but for me Killzone 2 is a little bit better in graphics and a lot better in effects (explosions, lightning...etc), try watching the lens of truth comparison in HD

abuabed

I think that video has been linked 3 times now, maybe more.

However, apparently, no one cares.

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#119 Ragashahs
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]

KZ2 is technically superior to anthing on console right now plain and simple and don't hide behind the the opinion argument cause you know that a cop out. from animation, to lighting, to physics, and just overall detail KZ2 simply has the best of everything who knows what the future hold but right now KZ2 current console graphics king

clone01

which is a solid opinion. personally, i think RE5 is the best looking console game out right now.

if your arguing on a visual appeal/art style way i can see yoru point but saying RE5 is superior on a technical level than KZ2 is like saying uncharted is technically superior than crysis. the animation in RE5 are horrible and are literally taken from RE4, the lightening is meh at best, RE5 also lacks the subtle detailes that KZ2's enviornments has. again if you liked the more colorful vistas RE5 showed off and the mood it creates i have no problem with you saying RE5 is more visually appealing but superior on a technical level no

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#120 CreepyBacon
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[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]Gears is way to rough, screen tearing, jaggies on everything and very noticeable. I will say the textures are nice but overall it dosent hold a candle to KZ2. Kz2 is solid smooth great textures, Character models, Weapon detail ect. KZ2 also dosent struggle with framerate issues. Its a 60 million dollar game, the perfect console shooter period. PS:KZ2-MP>>>>>>>>>>>>GEOW2MP.blues35301
Lol talk about making false claims,Geow 2 has no screen tearing and even if the engine technically doesn't support MSAA it does a good job smoothing the edges and gettting rid of the jaggies,KZ2 has no great textures,and gears2 doesn't struggle with framerates and KZ2 is not solid 30fps game and i can prove it unlike you.

HAHAH some of the battles near the end of gears go into the low 20's and teens fps wise. I never notice drops in KZ2. This is someone who plays pc games with a frame counter running in the corner. I know what 20 and teen fps look like. BTW kz2 does have some great textures (not all of them but there are some) but only someone who hasn't played the game would claim something like that.

The fact you're having to make stuff up now proves you're in major damage control mode.

Playedthem both, very little difference between either of them if one is superior graphically..it's not by much.

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#121 heybooboo19
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Eurogamer or I guess Digital Foundry is the best place to go for graphics tech on consoles. Not lens of truth. Uncharted has yet to be equaled by either game (KZ/Gears 2) according to them. RE5 came after they made that statement so I'm not sure where they currently stand. Haven't heard much since the FFXIII analysis.
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#122 mgs_freak91
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[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] horde is what? at most like 12-15 enemies on the map and its at multiplayer graphics quality. WHich don't tend to look as good as the campaign. Killzone 2 has just as many enemies on screen to be quite honest. Neither game is really impressive in terms of its scale. Atleast not for there respective genre. jg4xchamp

Yea if you want

[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

Here check this Op.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Camer999

Saw that already, I know KZ2 one ups GEOW in Lighting/particle effect, but what about textures? Draw distance and stuff going on on-screen.

Are we talking future games as well? Cause i would like to direct everyone to God of War 3. Epicness confirmed. It has got heaps of enemies on screen, and the background always looks beautiful and busy. Awesome Graphics and Gameplay (no it's not a button smasher, anyone that thinks that i DARE you to try button smashing on TITAN difficulty + I am going on how the previous games were, and there wont be a huge different in style in the 3rd) are an awesome plus!

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#123 Floppy_Jim
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Yes, Killzone 2 relies on cheats and tricks to look good, uses a ton of motion blur to cover up horrible PS1-level textures, blahblahblah, *insert more generic overused criticisms* and anyone who thinks it looks better than Gears 2 is a cow, fanboy, etc.
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#124 Irick_cb
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Yes, Killzone 2 relies on cheats and tricks to look good, uses a ton of motion blur to cover up horrible PS1-level textures, blahblahblah, *insert more generic overused criticisms* and anyone who thinks it looks better than Gears 2 is a cow, fanboy, etc. Floppy_Jim

plus its enimies are tiny.

i mean, look at the locusts.

how can a videogame with such tiny enimies be better?

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#125 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Yes, Killzone 2 relies on cheats and tricks to look good, uses a ton of motion blur to cover up horrible PS1-level textures, blahblahblah, *insert more generic overused criticisms* and anyone who thinks it looks better than Gears 2 is a cow, fanboy, etc. Irick_cb

plus its enimies are tiny.

i mean, look at the locusts.

how can a videogame with such tiny enimies be better?

And don't forget it doesn't have chainsawz attatched to the guns. Fail.
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#126 Irick_cb
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And don't forget it doesn't have chainsawz attatched to the guns. Fail.Floppy_Jim

Yeah, i mean, GeOW 1, lol.

Take a hint GG.

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#127 mazdero
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anyone who claims geow2 is technically superior to KZ2 has not played KZ2, or at least never made it to the last level of KZ2. That last level is ridiculous. Gears 2 has slightly better textures and thats about it.

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#128 PAL360
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I agree. Gears2 is on pair with KZ2 the best looking console game this gen right now imo!

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#129 JudgementEden
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I own a ps3 and 360 and to be 100% honest, there are 4 cosnole graphics king atm at least for me (Killzone2, Gears2, MGS4 and Kameo). I find all those games to be on the same level graphically, all very beautiful.

kozzy1234

YES! thank you, you are one of the only people I have met in this forum that have truly appreciated Kameos true beauty and wonderful graphics.

Glad to see someone else who appreciates Kameos graphics, simply amazing graphics for a launch title :)

If i had to pick one graphics king for each console it would be PS3 = Killzone2 and 360 = Kameo, i find both those games to just just amazing graphics by consoles standards, both just beautiful to look at.

I personally believe Folklore rivals that of Kameo, but I guess its just my opinion.
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#130 Jono789
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I quite like this comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

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#131 AAllxxjjnn
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I quite like this comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Jono789
Why? They don't even compare textures...GeoW's strongest point...instead they cover how your bullets look when they hit a wall. :|
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#132 Jono789
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Meh, i liked it.... its in HHHHDDDDD *does et finger* HHHHH DDDDD

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#133 delta3074
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I own a ps3 and 360 and to be 100% honest, there are 4 cosnole graphics king atm at least for me (Killzone2, Gears2, MGS4 and Kameo). I find all those games to be on the same level graphically, all very beautiful.

dragonfly110

YES! thank you, you are one of the only people I have met in this forum that have truly appreciated Kameos true beauty and wonderful graphics.

i did too, but i didn't want to say anything before, my flameshields broken, kameo was an awesome game, not just for the graphics but for the gameplay.
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#134 Irick_cb
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I quite like this comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Jono789

4th time it's been linked.

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#135 Jono789
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[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="Jono789"]

I quite like this comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

4th time it's been linked.

I havent seen any of the other pages apart from the first so i didnt know *et finger* HHHHHH DDDDD
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#136 GreyFoXX4
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Jono789"]

I quite like this comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Why? They don't even compare textures...GeoW's strongest point...instead they cover how your bullets look when they hit a wall. :|

Most people here give textures to Geow2, geez. But there is alot more than that to judge graphics off of. And KZ2 really does everything well. While Gears has textures galore but it misses the mark in so many other areas, like the effects and damage from bullets hitting a wall, lighting, particle effects, weather effects, explosions, enemies on screen and on and on. I mean KZ2 produces basically the same experience in MP as it does in SP, that is definitly not something that Geow2 does, and KZ2 should be given credit just for that alone, while having 32 players playing and bullets everywhere and explosions going off everywhere. Its quite impressive and really puts alot of people off on the game cause of the amount of stuff going on at once. It is War Perfected :)
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#137 Irick_cb
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I havent seen any of the other pages apart from the first so i didnt know *et finger* HHHHHH DDDDDJono789

First page, you didn't click my link?

i...

i feel so..

*cries in a corner*

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#138 VitunLehmat
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4th time it's been linked.Irick_cb
Also full of bias and they have no idea of what they're talking about,they should leave the comparisons for the big boys of Digital Foundry that at least knows and understand about this.
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#139 Jono789
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[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="Jono789"]

I havent seen any of the other pages apart from the first so i didnt know *et finger* HHHHHH DDDDD

First page, you didn't click my link?

i...

i feel so..

*cries in a corner*

Im sorry i didnt see!!!! *gives ice cream*
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#140 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Jono789"]

I quite like this comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Why? They don't even compare textures...GeoW's strongest point...instead they cover how your bullets look when they hit a wall. :|

Most people here give textures to Geow2, geez. But there is alot more than that to judge graphics off of. And KZ2 really does everything well. While Gears has textures galore but it misses the mark in so many other areas, like the effects and damage from bullets hitting a wall, lighting, particle effects, weather effects, explosions, enemies on screen and on and on. I mean KZ2 produces basically the same experience in MP as it does in SP, that is definitly not something that Geow2 does, and KZ2 should be given credit just for that alone, while having 32 players playing and bullets everywhere and explosions going off everywhere. Its quite impressive and really puts alot of people off on the game cause of the amount of stuff going on at once. It is War Perfected :)

So you're saying how grenade smoke dissipates and how a bullet looks when it hits a wall is what is important to graphics? Neither games are very impressive, but that video compares some of the most meaningless effects, so stop posting it.
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#141 imprezawrx500
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There is nothing very special about any of the exclusives this gen. killzone and gears are very similar. When I played killzone 2 I felt I was playing gears but in first person mode. mode have the same grey theme both require you to stay behind cover and both are full of action. The difference is ps3 costs more and doesn't break while x360 is cheaper and is not nearly as reliable. the hardware for gaming is much the same and if x360 games could require the hdd br would not make any difference what so ever and even without installs it makes very little difference. only a couple of pc games are over 10gb which shows how much br is useful.
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#142 Irick_cb
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So you're saying how grenade smoke dissipates and how a bullet looks when it hits a wall is what is important to graphics? Neither games are very impressive, but that video compares some of the most meaningless effects, so stop posting it.AAllxxjjnn

You're mean. You are a mean person.

I happen to like those effects and think they play a large part in the graphical immersiveness of KZ2.

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#143 Jono789
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[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Why? They don't even compare textures...GeoW's strongest point...instead they cover how your bullets look when they hit a wall. :|AAllxxjjnn
Most people here give textures to Geow2, geez. But there is alot more than that to judge graphics off of. And KZ2 really does everything well. While Gears has textures galore but it misses the mark in so many other areas, like the effects and damage from bullets hitting a wall, lighting, particle effects, weather effects, explosions, enemies on screen and on and on. I mean KZ2 produces basically the same experience in MP as it does in SP, that is definitly not something that Geow2 does, and KZ2 should be given credit just for that alone, while having 32 players playing and bullets everywhere and explosions going off everywhere. Its quite impressive and really puts alot of people off on the game cause of the amount of stuff going on at once. It is War Perfected :)

So you're saying how grenade smoke dissipates and how a bullet looks when it hits a wall is what is important to graphics? Neither games are very impressive, but that video compares some of the most meaningless effects, so stop posting it.

It isnt meaningless it looks awesome....
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] Most people here give textures to Geow2, geez. But there is alot more than that to judge graphics off of. And KZ2 really does everything well. While Gears has textures galore but it misses the mark in so many other areas, like the effects and damage from bullets hitting a wall, lighting, particle effects, weather effects, explosions, enemies on screen and on and on. I mean KZ2 produces basically the same experience in MP as it does in SP, that is definitly not something that Geow2 does, and KZ2 should be given credit just for that alone, while having 32 players playing and bullets everywhere and explosions going off everywhere. Its quite impressive and really puts alot of people off on the game cause of the amount of stuff going on at once. It is War Perfected :)Jono789
So you're saying how grenade smoke dissipates and how a bullet looks when it hits a wall is what is important to graphics? Neither games are very impressive, but that video compares some of the most meaningless effects, so stop posting it.

It isnt meaningless it looks awesome....

Bullet smoke and grenade smoke is awesome?
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#145 Irick_cb
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Bullet smoke and grenade smoke is awesome?AAllxxjjnn

They are as epic as FFXIII VS

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Bullet smoke and grenade smoke is awesome?Irick_cb

They are as epic as FFXIII VS

I don't pay attention to what the smoke looks like when i'm running around shooting people...not stopping to unload my clip into a wall to see the smoke trails.
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#147 delta3074
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having played both i would giive killzone 2 the nod for the graphics over geow 2 as for gameplay, i would have to give killzone 2 the nod, i would also give it the nod for artistic direction, don't get me wrong, i love my 360, but not for exclusives, i bought my 360 for gears, but i also bought oblivion, i ended up spending more time on oblivion, then my geow disc cracked and i didn't bother after that, gears 2 i played through once then traded it in, the only exclusives i like on n 360 are kameo, PDZ,Halo 3 and graw, gears just doesn't really do it for me, and in my mind assassins creed is console graphics king,on both consoles.
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#148 VitunLehmat
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[QUOTE="Jono789"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] So you're saying how grenade smoke dissipates and how a bullet looks when it hits a wall is what is important to graphics? Neither games are very impressive, but that video compares some of the most meaningless effects, so stop posting it.AAllxxjjnn
It isnt meaningless it looks awesome....

Bullet smoke and grenade smoke is awesome?

Yes smoke effects that disappear in 1 second,they should see the smoke effects in Resident Evil 5 those are amazing.
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#149 Irick_cb
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I don't pay attention to what the smoke looks like when i'm running around shooting people...not stopping to unload my clip into a wall to see the smoke trails.AAllxxjjnn

And i don't stop and stare at the textures.

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#150 rgame1
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whats "GEOW2"?

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