So did Wii win this Generation?

I dont know, feels wierd. Sales are plummeting, theres no games and Nintendo is realeasing WiiU next yr.

Feels like a dead system to me.

So anyway did it win this generation? can a Dead systems win the current gen when the other two are alive, did not happen to any previous gens. Ps2 is still selling and theyre still realeasing games for it.

My understanding is the Wii made Nintendo billions upon billions of dollars, so yes as a company after profit they win. Maybe the Wii is dead now but it doesn't matter because they made their money and are already moving on to their next console.

This gen is really weird because Wii U is also this gen.... so yeah. Um, I'm going to go and say that the Wii did win however considering how many more units sold. And if the Wii U sells really well than Nintendo are going to kick a lot of ass for the foreseeable future.

Sales yes

Games, no

Unlike the past 2 gens, the #1 console didn't have the most sales and most good games at the same time.

Though PS3 or 360 could still beat the wii in the long rung (since WiiU might kill it early)

But the Kinect would have to become much moe succesful, and a 199 PS3 would have to sell extremly well.

Yes it did, generations winner have always been the one with the most sales, you can't just suddenly say x system didn't win just because it didn't have the games YOU wanted.

I would sound like a complete idiot in here if i said the N64 and Sega Dreamcast won just because for me they were the best systems.

How exactly is it a dead system? They're still making games for it and supporting it. I'm pretty sure people are still buying it too.

In terms of sales? Yes!

In terms of games? It was close second behind PS3 in my opinion.

Great console to own.

This gen is really weird because Wii U is also this gen.... so yeah. Um, I'm going to go and say that the Wii did win however considering how many more units sold. And if the Wii U sells really well than Nintendo are going to kick a lot of ass for the foreseeable future.

NeonNinja

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This gen is really weird because Wii U is also this gen.... so yeah. Um, I'm going to go and say that the Wii did win however considering how many more units sold. And if the Wii U sells really well than Nintendo are going to kick a lot of ass for the foreseeable future.

Sgt_Crow

wait since when did it not win the games bracket,

-- its got everything snes and n64 had and more except fzero and starfox-

so ya im going to call bull on that call , its got double the games gc had and n64 had , most of the games being actually very good , dispite what some may refer to bargin bin titles, ive played a fair share of them

- my sims comes to mind this one is alot more fun to play then sims is lol ,its not even a close battle, cause my sims is a actual game where you have to do stuff unlike sims where u can just simulate life lol

and then you got alot of off beat racing games- like mini desktop racers which mimicks micromachines very good

and yes wii won this gen even without wii nintendo won this gen -ds any body

ds actually won this gen by a mile and 2nd is wii 3rd is psp 4th 360 5th is ps3 , pretty bad , for sony but i wont say it was good for ms as they could not hold onto the lead!!! now what company before it could not hold on to the lead ? i ll give you a hint - they are third party since 2001 , and their only succesful console is genesis--- ya thats right microsoft may be following in segas foot steps not sure when but man they are on their third platform pretty soon and we will see how that pans out but right now their record is in line with sega!!! coming out with a console first but finishing cant say yet ,, ps3 and 360 still going at it , but wii won by default -- not because of number of sales but profit , and wii u already being out that will be like 3ds is doing now - a third pillar until wii is dead period then theyll focus on it remember itl take time before people switch over,

people c all 3ds a flop but they forget ds was doing this with gba around to ,so add ds and 3ds together to get your sales number for nintendo handhelds ,, thats how itll work unt il its done, people will have to transfer then , and i doubt theyll leave nintendo for shooting games on a psp lol

have fun with that little theory , handhelds have to have different types of games then consoles to succeed -see how psp already failed--- hello ports more ports of ps3 360 wii etc titles

thats not how you make a portable sell ,

and thats not going to make one sell next gen 3ds will have exclusives

what will vita have in terms of them well probably just spin offs of ps3 titles from sony ,

while 3ds has steel diver nintendogs continuing , resident evil revelatiosn and mercinaries

etc so ya nintendo as a whole won this gen and if i added gc and gba sales they came 2nd last gen

In terms of sales it did. It's hard to imagine the the 360 or PS3 will catch up with it. Well as long as the Wii keep selling. :P

What does it mean to win?

Um... yeah. It sold the most, and Sony and Microsoft have been trying to copy it ever since it became stupidly successful. The best first party games this gen are also, you guessed it, on the Wii. I don't see how it could not be considered the winner.

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This gen is really weird because Wii U is also this gen.... so yeah. Um, I'm going to go and say that the Wii did win however considering how many more units sold. And if the Wii U sells really well than Nintendo are going to kick a lot of ass for the foreseeable future.

Oscar-Wilde

Yeah, except the Wii U is trying to compete with 360 and PS3.... which is why I said this gen is really weird.

Won sales race, strongest 1st party lineup with more variety in terms of genres and gameplay, most innovative hardware, revived the 2D platformer genre on consoles.

Lacks online and multiplats.

4/5, my console of choice, and it won in many categories.

Ah well 2011 is a really bad year yeah, but I'm busy playing OoT and Pilotwings on 3DS now anyway and looking forward to about 10 games for 3DS so I'm not complaining.

What does it mean to win?

Silverbond

It won in sales for sure, but in everything else for me about 70%. I hated the poor online in some game like Brawl and Sonic and Sega All Star Racing,some games had gimmicky or horrible controls like Mario and Sonic at the olympic games and theircould have been better games on the WiiWare service then just the piles of shoveware with a mixture of good games in between and the poor third party efforts at times. I liked that theirwere a lot of different types of games on the system compared to the other two consoles, the online was great for certain games like Mario Kart. The wii was also great for playing gmaes like Wii Fit in my family and I liked the cotrols in some of the games I played.

The Wii won. And it won a long while ago, with its insurmountable hardware lead.

But I'm trying to recall when, if ever, the situation has arisen where the winning console, even with its few gems, has arguably the poorest library out of all.

The Wii won. And it won a long while ago, with its insurmountable hardware lead.

But I'm trying to recall when, if ever, the situation has arisen where the winning console, even with its few gems, has arguably the poorest library out of all.

shinrabanshou

The Wii won. And it won a long while ago, with its insurmountable hardware lead.

But I'm trying to recall when, if ever, the situation has arisen where the winning console, even with its few gems, has arguably the poorest library out of all.

shinrabanshou

First time for everything. :P It did have the best exclusives, though. Not in quantity, but in quality.DarkLink77

Which is, by the way, completely subjective. Just because you can't compare Wii's library to PS3/360, you can't say it has a bad library. There appeared many great games on it, most of which were 1st party.Sgt_Crow

Yes and this question is redundant... Im sure anybody who clicks the link to SW is fully aware that the Wii has pummeled the other two consoles this gen as did the DS.

No-one "wins", unless you're talking about sales, in which case yes, the Wii did win.

The gen isn't over, so I wouldn't say yes.

The gen isn't over, so I wouldn't say yes.

lensflare15

Well... I don't see either Sony or Microsft overtaking anytime soon :P

^^This^^

and Wii had the best exclusives despite missing out on some great 360/PS3 games.

It had arguably some of the best games of the generation. But it missed out on so much. It is/was essentially a great secondary console to have alongside of one of the HD twins.

shinrabanshou

Don't speak so generally because outside of forums the "hardcore" perspective is a minority.

The Wii was the most unique console with games such as Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Boom Blox, Zack & Wiki. These are all part of why Wii had the best exclusive lineup, you know.

You're talking like these games don't count.

It had the most variety of genres and gameplay mechanics coupled with gameplay innovations through WM+ and the pointer, how can it not be winning? After all gameplay is all that matters.

First on profits and sales

Last in customer relations (casual market is NOT a loyal market)

Last in customer relations (casual market is NOT a loyal market)Daytona_178

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It had arguably some of the best games of the generation. But it missed out on so much. It is/was essentially a great secondary console to have alongside of one of the HD twins.

SuperFlakeman

Don't speak so generally because outside of forums the "hardcore" perspective is a minority.

The Wii was the most unique console with games such as Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Boom Blox, Zack & Wiki. These are all part of why Wii had the best exclusive lineup, you know.

You're talking like these games don't count.

It had the most variety of genres and gameplay mechanics coupled with gameplay innovations through WM+ and the pointer, how can it not be winning? After all gameplay is all that matters.

My statement stands whether or not one is in System Wars.

That the Wii missed out on a lot of games is a factual statement.

That it made a great secondary console is a perfectly sound opinion.

I didn't say anything about discounting its exclusive line-up. The other two consoles also have great exclusive line ups. They also got all the multiplats this gen that the Wii didn't.

Games are what matters.

My statement stands whether or not one is in System Wars.

That the Wii missed out on a lot of games is a factual statement.

That it made a great secondary console is a perfectly sound opinion.

I didn't say anything about discounting its exclusive line-up. The other two consoles also have great exclusive line ups. They also got all the multiplats this gen that the Wii didn't.

shinrabanshou

You where speaking highly generally, like you represent the majority, it's you who should defend your PoV because people voted with their money.

Games are what matters, but variety too. 50% of what was shown at E3 2011 was a shooter in some form.

I don't know for sure if the PS3 or 360 can ever catch up to the Wii in sales. Video games are more popular than ever, so who knows what the potential is for future PS3 and 360 sales, after seeing how long the PS2 sold well. And although I may never get them myself, the Move and Kinect could attract many new and casual gamers. Anyway, I don't agree that the gen is over as soon as a new console is released, and I don't know why people act like it's over already.

The only thing the wii won is having nintendo bring out another console due to you know what............ (looks around left and right) I'll keep it to myself. Things get a little hairy around this here part of town and I don't want folks hanging me

skyward sword is on the way for Wii.

You where speaking highly generally, like you represent the majority, it's you who should defend your PoV because people voted with their money.

Games are what matters, but variety too. 50% of what was shown at E3 2011 was a shooter in some form.

SuperFlakeman

My statement above doesn't claim to speak for anyone let alone soccer moms and dudebros and other consumer segments.

Part of it is opinion that the Wii had some of the best games of the gen, part of it is opinion that it makes a great secondary console, and part of it is a factual statement about the Wii missing out on most of the multiplats this gen.

If you disagree with the opinion, I don't really give a toss. If you disagree with the fact. You're wrong.

gg

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You where speaking highly generally, like you represent the majority, it's you who should defend your PoV because people voted with their money.

Games are what matters, but variety too. 50% of what was shown at E3 2011 was a shooter in some form.

shinrabanshou

My statement above doesn't claim to speak for anyone let alone soccer moms and dudebros and other consumer segments.

Part of it is opinion that the Wii had some of the best games of the gen, part of it is opinion that it makes a great secondary console, and part of it is a factual statement about the Wii missing out on most of the multiplats this gen.

If you disagree with the opinion, I don't really give a toss. If you disagree with the fact. You're wrong.

gg

You claimed that Wii was best suited as a secondary console in a general manner.

You claimed that Wii was best suited as a secondary console in a general manner.

SuperFlakeman

If you disagree, I don't care, get over it.

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You claimed that Wii was best suited as a secondary console in a general manner.

shinrabanshou

If you disagree, I don't care, get over it.

It was your opinion? ok then no problems

Oh god, I'm so sick of all of this "opinion" nonsense.

Yes, it's his opinion. He's right too. You can have the opinion that the Wii has the greatest library out of the three, because it has unique titles. But there's a sort of illogical jump involved. Whether something is unique is irrelevant to whether or not it is good or bad. Very unique games themselves can be very, very flawed. The Wii may be a unique system, but it doesn't offer as strong of a library as the other two consoles. And quite frankly, there is a variety of games on the other two consoles.

Respecting other people's right to have an opinion is fine when you don't want to discuss anything. But in System Wars? No, opinions themselves don't have to be respected.

Unlike the past 2 gens, the #1 console didn't have the most sales and most good games at the same time.

Though PS3 or 360 could still beat the wii in the long rung (since WiiU might kill it early)

dercoo

The first point is subjective really.

The second point, they might beat the Wii in sales, but does it really matter? Nintendo was selling at a profit since day one, while Microsoft and Sony aren't. And they sold so many units in a shorter amount of time anyway. So even if they did take over, they needed a longer time to do so.

Overall, they won in sales. And with game quality, everyone loved their consoles, there was no obvious crap system as they all shared their gems.

Yes. It did.

Oh god, I'm so sick of all of this "opinion" nonsense.

Yes, it's his opinion. He's right too. You can have the opinion that the Wii has the greatest library out of the three, because it has unique titles. But there's a sort of illogical jump involved. Whether something is unique is irrelevant to whether or not it is good or bad. Very unique games themselves can be very, very flawed. The Wii may be a unique system, but it doesn't offer as strong of a library as the other two consoles. And quite frankly, there is a variety of games on the other two consoles.

Respecting other people's right to have an opinion is fine when you don't want to discuss anything. But in System Wars? No, opinions themselves don't have to be respected.

hakanakumono

Exactly this!

You know those "opinion people" (the guys here on system wars that state nonsense like "Its subjective" "Its opinion" "opinions cant be wrong" etc.) just dont understand the point behind discussion.

There is some factual quiality in games (as it is in any product of human culture). And discussing and sharing our oppinions, trying to prove each others oppinion wrong - thats a process of revealing factual (= real) quality of a product. Thats why when The Beatles came out, many ppl thought its absolute rubbish, sensless noise and not even a music - it was their opinion and of course they had right to have that opinion. But from todays perspective, after we have gone through all the discussions about The Beatles and we all over the world shared our opinions, we can safely say that their opinion was wrong. Beatles are genius music that changed the world of music for several decades to follow.

And thats what we are doing all the time - discussing opinions. Those !d!ots that keep blabling rubbish like "its opinion, I will not discuss that, opinions cant be wrong" etc. etc. are really annoying. They dont understand something really elementary, something everybody should understand before getting into any discussion.

The Wii may be a unique system, but it doesn't offer as strong of a library as the other two consoles. And quite frankly, there is a variety of games on the other two consoles.

hakanakumono

Nintendo wins

Gamers lose? :P

In terms of sales? Yes!

But games, no way I would give that to PS3.

I'm sure it will be the same way next gen, but Wii U will have better games than the Wii.