So GT5 is selling faster than halo 3

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#101 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="110million"] PS3 year by year average is 12 million, 360's is 10, math claims it should take first place eventually. sanim02

Stop wasting ypur time with him lol.

Anyway about topic thats a great a great game like GT5 deserves a great sales actually I think its one of the few games which sold a lot and deserved the sales unlike some other games which is all about rehashing.

What does that mean?:? I wasn't bashing anything to begin with.:?

Sorry it wasn't about you it was about the guy who thinks that PS3 still needs saving :P.

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#102 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="sanim02"]

Which ditch are you talking about?:? It's making a profit.:P Unless you mean being getting 2nd place which honestly, it'll never attain.:P

FIipMode

The ditch where it sells the least monthly, the ditch where barley any software can top the wii or 360. The ditch where they were losing "exclusives" left and right a couple of years ago. Ps3's in last even with a price cut and the introduction of move so the ditch is pretty deep.

The PS3 sells either the same or more than the 360 every quarter. :?

The PS3 sold more software than the 360 in 2009 - 2010.

And both consoles have lost exclusives.

Yo Sp4rtan Laser, I'm still curious about this ditch over here.

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#103 Sp4rtan_3
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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Stop wasting ypur time with him lol.

Anyway about topic thats a great a great game like GT5 deserves a great sales actually I think its one of the few games which sold a lot and deserved the sales unlike some other games which is all about rehashing.

Kashiwaba

What does that mean?:? I wasn't bashing anything to begin with.:?

Sorry it wasn't about you it was about the guy who thinks that PS3 still need saving :P.

I dont think the ps3 needs saving I think its going to be in last the rest of the generation.
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#104 205212669269561485377169522720
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Sorry it wasn't about you it was about the guy who thinks that PS3 still need saving :P.

Kashiwaba

Ahh okay.:P I was sayin'.:lol:

His sig is drole but the PS3 doesn't need saving.:)

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#105 110million
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

What does that mean?:? I wasn't bashing anything to begin with.:?

Sp4rtan_3

Sorry it wasn't about you it was about the guy who thinks that PS3 still need saving :P.

I dont think the ps3 needs saving I think its going to be in last the rest of the generation.

Its close enough though, like last-gen the XBOX and GC were way behind the PS2, but I never got the impression (at least on sites i visited then) that anyone cared which one was last.
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#106 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

What does that mean?:? I wasn't bashing anything to begin with.:?

Sp4rtan_3

Sorry it wasn't about you it was about the guy who thinks that PS3 still need saving :P.

I dont think the ps3 needs saving I think its going to be in last the rest of the generation.

Well 3rd or 2nd it doesn't matter anymore it's all about #1 and thats Wii.

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#107 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="DeckardLee2010"]

Compare the install base :D Not nearly as many people had a 360 in 2007 as a PS3 in 2010.

Silverbond

You think this kind of knowledge would be obvious to SW, but I guess sometimes a reminder can do us all some good.

ok. how about the fact that its outsold HALO reach as well WW?

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#108 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="DeckardLee2010"]

Compare the install base :D Not nearly as many people had a 360 in 2007 as a PS3 in 2010.

Blaze-Agent

You think this kind of knowledge would be obvious to SW, but I guess sometimes a reminder can do us all some good.

ok. how about the fact that its outsold HALO reach as well WW?

We (surprisingly) don't know the sales of Reach.
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#109 Vadamee
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[QUOTE="Vadamee"]9.5 > 8.0. GT5 flopped hard, get over it.xxFallenAngel

Not really. I don't see whats so bad about it.

What do you mean "not really"? GT5 did flop, wasn't the hype AAA? And I didn't say it was a bad game. Most games that flop are excellent games... We just like to say flop as if something sucks. Its essentially a troll comment.
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#110 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="DeckardLee2010"]

Compare the install base :D Not nearly as many people had a 360 in 2007 as a PS3 in 2010.

Blaze-Agent

You think this kind of knowledge would be obvious to SW, but I guess sometimes a reminder can do us all some good.

ok. how about the fact that its outsold HALO reach as well WW?

Dude what are teh friggin' Halo Reach sales data?:?

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#111 Sp4rtan_3
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Sorry it wasn't about you it was about the guy who thinks that PS3 still need saving :P.

110million

I dont think the ps3 needs saving I think its going to be in last the rest of the generation.

Its close enough though, like last-gen the XBOX and GC were way behind the PS2, but I never got the impression (at least on sites i visited then) that anyone cared which one was last.

M$ sure did, nintendo not so much because they were making money off every cube unlike the xbox. Why do you think M$ released early this year and snatched up all this "exclusive" stuff this generation ?

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#112 Doolz2024
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="ultraking"]thats not what you've been saying tho.. you said it was unfinished

ultraking

Yes, along with this:

"Keep denying the obvious, then. If you think these updates to GT5 weren't to correct flaws *cough*screentearingandframratedrops*cough*, among other things like improving the damage system, and were just released for any reason other than to improve the game because it was clearly flawed at release, then go ahead. There's really no point in arguing with you."

( dont know what u mean about screen tearing and frame rate dips)

This is what I'm talking about.

Page 3: While running in 720p:...there are actually lower frame-rates and more tearing than we saw in Gran Turismo 4 on the PS2. Dropped frames and tearing are clearly visible and occasionally rather off-putting.

In 1080p:Yes, there is a small performance deficit (to the tune of around two frames per second on average) and occasionally there is more tearing - but to the human eye there is little that can tell them apart in terms of frame-rate perception.

The game did have those problems. I believe patch 1.05 corrected them, so is it an issue now? No. Was it? Yes.


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#113 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"] You think this kind of knowledge would be obvious to SW, but I guess sometimes a reminder can do us all some good.sanim02

ok. how about the fact that its outsold HALO reach as well WW?

Dude what are teh friggin' Halo Reach sales data?:?

I dont have it. But call it a hunch. I have a feeling that COD has done severe damage to the game's selling potential WW. GT does not have that problem

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#114 110million
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Why do you think M$ released early this year and snatched up all this "exclusive" stuff this generation ?]Sp4rtan_3
To make games not sell well? :P Its too bad they grabbed a lot of RPG exclusivity only to have them sell very poorly and make the devs not get the sales they were hoping for.

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#115 Sp4rtan_3
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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

ok. how about the fact that its outsold HALO reach as well WW?

Blaze-Agent

Dude what are teh friggin' Halo Reach sales data?:?

I dont have it. But call it a hunch. I have a feeling that COD has done severe damage to the game's selling potential WW. GT does not have that problem

I looked it up and cant find a thing :? I guess CoD really did take a bite out of Halos sales since its not the top dog on the market anymore.
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#116 moose_knuckler
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Wasn't there around 20 million 360's at the beginning of '08?
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#117 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Dude what are teh friggin' Halo Reach sales data?:?

Sp4rtan_3

I dont have it. But call it a hunch. I have a feeling that COD has done severe damage to the game's selling potential WW. GT does not have that problem

I looked it up and cant find a thing :? I guess CoD really did take a bite out of Halos sales since its not the top dog on the market anymore.

All me and Flippy kept finding was $200 million on the first day or whatever.:? I mean even if it sold at least 4 million, you'd think Microsoft would brag about it at LEAST.:?

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#118 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Why do you think M$ released early this year and snatched up all this "exclusive" stuff this generation ?]110million

To make games not sell well? :P Its too bad they grabbed a lot of RPG exclusivity only to have them sell very poorly and make the devs not get the sales they were hoping for.

Yeah that's a shame. However some games did benefit from becoming multiplat, especially the newer IP's that publishers like Capcom or Namco used to produce exclusively for the PS2.:)

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#119 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

I dont have it. But call it a hunch. I have a feeling that COD has done severe damage to the game's selling potential WW. GT does not have that problem

sanim02

I looked it up and cant find a thing :? I guess CoD really did take a bite out of Halos sales since its not the top dog on the market anymore.

All me and Flippy kept finding was $200 million on the first day or whatever.:? I mean even if it sold at least 4 million, you'd think Microsoft would brag about it at LEAST.:?

dont get me wrong. the Game aill always have great 1st day sales. But the game amd its formula are getting stale. COD has completely stolen its thunder hence the reason the game does not have the legs it used to. All you hear people say or play is blackops. Its sold 4 million in the US by now probably close to 5. But WW its no good. barely cracked 800K in the UK as of the end of Dec. Blackops alone on the 360 in UK has surpassed 2 million. The ps3 version is not too far behind withround 1.5 million as of december ending (these are UK numbers and close estimates). Thats why Microsoft refuses to talk about it. The series has lost its selling power to a far more popular shooter.

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#120 Pug-Nasty
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I bought one of each. Tie.

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#121 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"]

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Why do you think M$ released early this year and snatched up all this "exclusive" stuff this generation ?]sanim02

To make games not sell well? :P Its too bad they grabbed a lot of RPG exclusivity only to have them sell very poorly and make the devs not get the sales they were hoping for.

Yeah that's a shame. However some games did benefit from becoming multiplat, especially the newer IP's that publishers like Capcom or Namco used to produce exclusively for the PS2.:)

Yeah, multiplat is for the best. Its the only strategy that makes sense in terms of sales, but its more pressure on the developers to not take the easy way out and simply port, but to make multiplat engines or work on the games at the same time. Though PS3/360 games are often similar, the PC often gets the short end of the multiplat stick.
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#122 campzor
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well it is a better game
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#123 mccoyca112
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Does it make it a better racing game now?JustPlainLucas

For what its worth, you could say the same for halo's always scoring 9s across the board...even that stepchild odst(at least on gs). That is, if it wasnt for its jump on the sword fanbase. Scores and sales dont mean much.

Good for gt5, but I wont be a part of those sales until it hits the 20$ mark. Even with the updates, I cant see myself taking the time to play it. Still, pretty impressive.

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#124 clone01
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GT5 sold 6.37 million in 6 weeks while halo 3sold 5 million in 8 weeks

Just saying......

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/15269/Halo-3-Sells-5-Million-Copies-Mass-Effect-Already-Sold-1M/

http://n4g.com/news/704708/gran-turismo-5-sold-6-37-million-copies-in-first-six-weeks/com

Sure...GT5 is a massive seller. I'm sure both games are enjoyable (played Halo 3, but not GT5 - sorry, just not a big racing fan).
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For what its worth, you could say the same for halo's always scoring 9s across the board...even that stepchild odst(at least on gs). That is, if it wasnt for its jump on the sword fanbase. Scores and sales dont mean much.Good for gt5, but I wont be a part of those sales until it hits the 20$ mark. Even with the updates, I cant see myself taking the time to play it. Still, pretty impressive.

mccoyca112

Not really. I trust published scores more than I trust sales of a game as reviews are more closely indicative of quality. A game is still good even if it sells poorly(Panzer Dragoon Orta) and games can still be poor if it sells well.

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#126 soulitane
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So a game sold faster when the console it's on has more people owing it than when the other game released, I'm truly astounded.
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#127 ChubbyGuy40
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Good. Even though they aren't the same genre Halo 3 is extremely overrated and just as bad as MW games. GT5 gets too much hate.

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#128 Rage010101
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and to think, sony didnt have to advertise gt5 no where near as much as halo 3

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#129 mccoyca112
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[QUOTE="mccoyca112"]

For what its worth, you could say the same for halo's always scoring 9s across the board...even that stepchild odst(at least on gs). That is, if it wasnt for its jump on the sword fanbase. Scores and sales dont mean much.Good for gt5, but I wont be a part of those sales until it hits the 20$ mark. Even with the updates, I cant see myself taking the time to play it. Still, pretty impressive.

Vadamee

Not really. I trust published scores more than I trust sales of a game as reviews are more closely indicative of quality. A game is still good even if it sells poorly(Panzer Dragoon Orta) and games can still be poor if it sells well.

Depends who you ask. How many people call foul on supermario kart 64 or play mvc2 immensely even at a 7.5? Hell, mgs3 vanilla, and dropping from its 9.0 days, yet being widely excepted to be the best. Foul Ball? Maybe, maybe.. There may be a general consensus of scores, but if I had a nickel every time I got a bad taste in my mouth over an AAA... When it comes down to it, reviewers are gamers, like us, with a paycheck.

Of course they'll be more closey indicative of quality; Its their job. but when the hype train comes, I never put all my eggs in one basket over them. A realistic approach is to read a review. Multiple reviews. Then look up gameplay and get a consensus from the bigger group. "Normal" gamers you could say. Not see a score, read the good/bad and jump. Just my view.

As for sales, Well they dont matter whatsoever.

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#130 Ravensmash
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And again...both are great games and both deserve solid sales :)
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#131 lqcevox
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And again...both are great games and both deserve solid sales :)Ravensmash

this is what i call the thread killer!

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#132 tonitorsi
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and to think, sony didnt have to advertise gt5 no where near as much as halo 3

Rage010101

Dang, thats true mate :?

Imagine Sony giving it a 200-150 million advertising budget ala Activision. GT5 could've easily outsell GT3.

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#133 Asim90
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GT5 wasn't as great as I was hoping but 6.37 million already is pretty insane. I was expecting that after like a year, I think it could hit 10 million by the end of this year.

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#134 lamprey263
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but not as fast as New Super Mario Bros
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#136 themyth01
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I wonder how many PS3s are sold compared to the number of 360s sold back then when Halo 3 was released... hmmm....
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#137 vashkey
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I wonder how many PS3s are sold compared to the number of 360s sold back then when Halo 3 was released... hmmm....themyth01
As another user said, about double. The PS3 is past 40 million units while the 360 was sitting around 20 million... Maybe less?
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#138 danjammer69
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[QUOTE="BodyElite"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Thats amazing.. is it bad that i still dont have GT5 yet? :P it needs a price drop! too many games! :P

I bought it and launch and sold it 2 weeks later. It's terrible, trust me

Why would we trust you? Seriously, you think saying a game is terrible is going to discourage people from buying it? The game is pretty damn good. While it does not cater to everyone, the game is selling like hotcakes and has received fairly positive reviews. I just do not understand the logic of how a game "Flops" on system wars (logic? Yeah I know where I am right now), yet is still considered a great game by the reviewers that flopped it, and people will just completely thumb their collective noses at it because of some stupid System Wars meme. It is not like the game scored a 6.0 or lower. It is a great game, in my opinion, and many professional reviewer's opinions as well (Gamespot as well). Did it live up to the incredible hype as expected? No, it did not. So I guess that means it is terrible. Don't worry, I am sure somebody here will "Trust you", without trying the game out or doing some fair amount of research on their own.
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#139 soulitane
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I wonder how many PS3s are sold compared to the number of 360s sold back then when Halo 3 was released... hmmm....themyth01
Exactly, the situation for both consoles at the time each game released was different so it's quite hard to to compare.

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#140 vashkey
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[QUOTE="BodyElite"]I bought it and launch and sold it 2 weeks later. It's terrible, trust medanjammer69
Why would we trust you?

Why shouldn't you? Gamers buying a game only to sell it a week or so later is pretty common place now a day...
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#141 gamedude234
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Have we ever had an update on Halo Reachs sales? I don't think I've seen it talked about at all here.FIipMode

there have been tons and tons of patches coming out weekly. Far more than GT5. Just go on Bungie.net and look at the weekly updates.

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#142 inggrish
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Good for Polyphony, they deserve the sales. Its a great game, and the constant patches keep improving it :)

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#143 danjammer69
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[QUOTE="danjammer69"][QUOTE="BodyElite"]I bought it and launch and sold it 2 weeks later. It's terrible, trust mevashkey
Why would we trust you?

Why shouldn't you? Gamers buying a game only to sell it a week or so later is pretty common place now a day...

That is not at all what I was getting at. I don't doubt that he owned the game, didn't like it and got rid of it. It is telling other people that a game is terrible without providing any sort of backup to his opinion at all and finishing it off with "trust me". How can we trust him without any sort of evidence of how the game is terrible? If you are going to say something is "terrible" then by all means at least try and offer some support to your opinion. I am sure I would agree with at least some of his complaints. But a blanket statement can really only be taken for what it is worth.
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#144 NWA90s
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Funny how sales used to not matter to cows until GT5 came along...

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i fail to see where he says sales matter
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

Funny how sales used to not matter to cows until GT5 came along...

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i fail to see where he says sales matter

I'm generalizing, not talking about this thread specifically.

The fact is, cows used to downplay sales every time a 360 exclusive sold great and say sales don't matter. Then when GT5 came out and flopped hard, it went from "GT5 will score a 9.5 or 10 and be the greatest racing game ever.", to, "Well... uh... it'll destroy Forza 3in sales!" "This game will sell more than all 3 Forzas combined!" "Who cares if it flopped it'll still sell millions!"

The list of excuses goes on, but you get the point. Oh, that GT5 hype thread was hilarious.

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#146 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="sanim02"] The ditch where it sells the least monthly, the ditch where barley any software can top the wii or 360. The ditch where they were losing "exclusives" left and right a couple of years ago. Ps3's in last even with a price cut and the introduction of move so the ditch is pretty deep.FIipMode

The PS3 sells either the same or more than the 360 every quarter. :?

The PS3 sold more software than the 360 in 2009 - 2010.

And both consoles have lost exclusives.

Hmm? the ps3 is 160 million software sales + behind the Wii and 360 so one year it sold more...*it sold more by less then I believe 5 million units* 1 years means nothing when its 160 million + behind.

@TC cows like to talk about how sales mean nothing...so I'll say this...Reach didn't flop.

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#147 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Have we ever had an update on Halo Reachs sales? I don't think I've seen it talked about at all here.gamedude234

there have been tons and tons of patches coming out weekly. Far more than GT5. Just go on Bungie.net and look at the weekly updates.

I said sales, nothing about patches.

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#148 FIipMode
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Hmm? the ps3 is 160 million software sales + behind the Wii and 360 so one year it sold more...*it sold more by less then I believe 5 million units* 1 years means nothing when its 160 million + behind.

@TC cows like to talk about how sales mean nothing...so I'll say this...Reach didn't flop.

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Sp4rtan (who still hasn't replied to me lol) said it can barely top any of 360's software sales, my link shows it did, end of.

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#149 Postal_Guy
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nice sales...

doesnt change the fact that the intro made me wanna bang my head against the wall... and that was just the beginning

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#150 SkaRy_RuLeZ
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9.5 > 8.0. GT5 flopped hard, get over it.Vadamee

GT5 got 8 because PS3 games have to live to higher standards than others to get the same rating. Just compare it with Forza 3, there's not a single aspect of GT5 that is worse than Forza, yet it gets low ratings.

The game was GOTY material when it was released, and with all the content and changes its worth double now.